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Hum (was Re: [hammond_zone] Power Supply Info)
My M101 has had a hum for some time and although I replaced the largeWhy do you say that? (Do you mean heater to cathode leakage in the rectifier? That doesn't make sense --- the 5U4 does not have a separate cathode: the header is the cathode.) (If you mean heater-to-cathode leakage in some other tube, that could well be the cause of your hum (see below.)) Are you sure the hum is coming from the preamp/amp? Does the swell pedal affect the hum volume? Does the hum get better/worse as the preamp warms up? If you ground the inputs to the preamp, what happens? If you're sure the hum is coming from the (pre)amp I'd check the rest of the tubes, particularly the finals. If you can get your hands on known good spares, the best thing to do is swap them out one at a time (except swap the finals as a pair). See also Not having a clue how to check that I wondered if it was worth (or evenYou can, but that's a whole nuther kettle of fish --- IMHO, it's not worth the effort and worry. If you just replace the rectifier with a pair of diodes, your B+ voltage will go up (probably doing bad things.) Also the rest of the tubes see full B+ will before their cathodes are warmed up: this is known to be bad for the life of the tubes ("cathode stripping"). So you need to at least add a resistor (to drop some voltage) in series with the diodes, and possible add some other stuff to delay the "turn-on" of the B+ supply. I have having difficuly getting hold of good quality valvesThey shouldn't be that hard to find (though you probably will need to resort to mail order.) Where are you located? If you're near the US, see: for several good sources of tubes. Sparks are definitely bad :-) --- either that tube was already bad (or was one of the real el-cheapos) --- or it might indicate further troubles with your amp. Jeff PS Note to Guillermo who's thinking of buying a Trek preamp to cure hum in his A-105: I've heard nothing but good about the Trek preamps. Nevertheless, replacing the preamp solely to fix hum seems rather extreme. Unless you're absolutely sure the hum is coming from the preamp, it might not even fix the problem. Why not just fix the preamp (or have it fixed)? |
Gren
开云体育Thanks for the info Jeff..
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I didn't realise the 5U4 was a directly heated
cathode .. I know now. .. I was getting it mixed up with the 5X4 which
is.
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I'm in Birmingham UK but I do come to the US every
year on vacation. (we drove across the US last year).. so getting a tube from
the US is not a problem. I (like the M) have lots of contacts in the US who
could get the tubes and send them. I just never thought of it ..
(DUH!)
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Whats the best way of measuring the hum from the
output of the caps ?
The 'hum' being only a small proportion of the
output voltage.
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You have been a great eye opener. I only have
limited tech knowledge but have worked with tubes way back in the days of the
807 power amp .. when the 6V6 was used as a driver.. oh those were the
days.? LOL
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Thanks again
Gren
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开云体育The Chelmer Valve company is an excellent UK source
for new and tested tubes, they are very reasonable and use only highest quality
tubes. They supply me with valves for the 122 Leslie and XB3. Also I have
purchased replacement valves for L and M series spinets from them. You can buy
matched pairs too.
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Darren
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Gren
开云体育Brilliant Darren .. many thanks
I'm sure glad I found this list .. I've learned
more about my Hammond in the short while I've been on here than in all the 30
odd years I've had the organ.
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If anyone wants info on potbellied pigs I'm your
man .. LOL
Yes I know they use pigs for organ transplants but
its a different type of organ.
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Grennie
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