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[hammond_zone] drawbar settings


 

In a message dated 2/28/02 8:23:09 PM Central Standard Time,
organist@... writes:


I have a dictionary of Hammond organ stops, which includes settings for all
the traditional organ stops. If anyone's interested, I can post some of
them.
Please do, thanks!


Carlo Pietroniro
 

there are many organists whose churches have Hammond organs, and while the Hammond 'sound' is great, it's not exactly what a church organ should sound like, especially if you're trying to play toccatas, fugues, and whatever, which isn't too easy on most Hammond organs, since 99% of them only have 25 pedals. As for the spinet models...........forget it!!!!

I'll post some drawbar settings for church organists soon........

carlo


Brian Williams
 

In a recent post that which is below is stated.

"there are many organists whose churches have Hammond organs, and while the Hammond 'sound' is great, it's not exactly what a church organ should sound like,..." >

WAIT A SECOND. Who said that is not what a church should sound like??? THe Hammond organ is the only church organ to have. I take it you have never been to a pentecostal church. I think you would know would I mean if you saw it. The Leslie on 10, amd the B3 Blastin' like you would not believe.

some of my favorite settings with the right hand are

800000008

I usually start with this and then add this:

808000008

Just kinda brightens it up but it is still under the banner of mellow. This is good with the leslie on fast.

THis sound has a good sound that is slighty nasal. very cool

688645457

TO get real bright I go with the

808808008, 848808008, and of course the 888888888 although this tends to rock the house so hard that the chandeliers come down.

you can "nasal-up" your sound by pulling out the second drawbar further than the first. the greate the ditance between them the more nasal the sound.

all of these I have the vibrato on C-3. THe only time I turn the vibrato off is for padding. I do it sometimes to mix things up. need a change every once and a while.

AS FOR THE LEFT HAND

I used to always go with 888800000 for a deep bass sound. I have now discovered a more raunchy bass sound that has two uses.

First, of course when played at the lower octaves has an extremely "rockin" bass

Secondly, When played at the very high octaves it will make your B3 SCREAM like you would NOT BELIEVE. Also it is good for some glissandos. It can't be used for really anything else because it sounds like a dying duck if you try to lead with it.

Here it is baby:

088800000

Tell me what you think. THis has been a trick that us pentecostals have used for a long time. Maybe it is only suitable for loud chuch but it works.

I have other settings too but I think this is good enough


tell me what you think,



Brian


nice mellow tone to pl




I'll post some drawbar settings for church organists soon........

carlo






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Brian Williams
 

In a recent post that which is below is stated.

"there are many organists whose churches have Hammond organs, and while the Hammond 'sound' is great, it's not exactly what a church organ should sound like,..." >

WAIT A SECOND. Who said that is not what a church should sound like??? THe Hammond organ is the only church organ to have. I take it you have never been to a pentecostal church. I think you would know would I mean if you saw it. The Leslie on 10, amd the B3 Blastin' like you would not believe.

some of my favorite settings with the right hand are

800000008

I usually start with this and then add this:

808000008

Just kinda brightens it up but it is still under the banner of mellow. This is good with the leslie on fast.

THis sound has a good sound that is slighty nasal. very cool

688645457

TO get real bright I go with the

808808008, 848808008, and of course the 888888888 although this tends to rock the house so hard that the chandeliers come down.

you can "nasal-up" your sound by pulling out the second drawbar further than the first. the greate the ditance between them the more nasal the sound.

all of these I have the vibrato on C-3. THe only time I turn the vibrato off is for padding. I do it sometimes to mix things up. need a change every once and a while.

AS FOR THE LEFT HAND

I used to always go with 888800000 for a deep bass sound. I have now discovered a more raunchy bass sound that has two uses.

First, of course when played at the lower octaves has an extremely "rockin" bass

Secondly, When played at the very high octaves it will make your B3 SCREAM like you would NOT BELIEVE.

ALSO IT HAS AN AWESOME GLISSANDO SOUND. Try runnin' your hand up and down the manual and tell me what you think!!!


It can't be used for really anything else because it sounds like a dying duck if you try to lead with it.

Here it is baby:

088800000

Tell me what you think. THis has been a trick that us pentecostals have used for a long time. Maybe it is only suitable for loud chuch but it works.

I have other settings too but I think this is good enough


tell me what you think,



Brian




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Carlo Pietroniro
 

Brian,

I understand your point. I've been to many protestant churches, both as a member of the congregation, and as an organist. My comments are coming from the angle of someone who's a concert organist................

carlo


Brian Williams
 

Thanks for the clarification

Godbless,

Brian


From: "Carlo Pietroniro" <organist@...>
Reply-To: hammond_zone@...
To: <hammond_zone@...>
Subject: Re: [hammond_zone] drawbar settings
Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2002 02:49:12 -0500

Brian,

I understand your point. I've been to many protestant churches, both as a member of the congregation, and as an organist. My comments are coming from the angle of someone who's a concert organist................

carlo






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Laddie Williams
 

Try 888000008 With Chorus3 and Percussion on, full, slow decay, and 3rd.

----- Original Message -----
From: Brian Williams
To: hammond_zone@...
Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 2:47 AM
Subject: Re: [hammond_zone] drawbar settings


In a recent post that which is below is stated.

>"there are many organists whose churches have Hammond organs, and while the
>Hammond 'sound' is great, it's not exactly what a church organ should sound
>like,..." >


WAIT A SECOND. Who said that is not what a church should sound like??? THe
Hammond organ is the only church organ to have. I take it you have never
been to a pentecostal church. I think you would know would I mean if you
saw it. The Leslie on 10, amd the B3 Blastin' like you would not believe.

some of my favorite settings with the right hand are

800000008

I usually start with this and then add this:

808000008

Just kinda brightens it up but it is still under the banner of mellow. This
is good with the leslie on fast.

THis sound has a good sound that is slighty nasal. very cool

688645457

TO get real bright I go with the

808808008, 848808008, and of course the 888888888 although this tends to
rock the house so hard that the chandeliers come down.

you can "nasal-up" your sound by pulling out the second drawbar further than
the first. the greate the ditance between them the more nasal the sound.

all of these I have the vibrato on C-3. THe only time I turn the vibrato
off is for padding. I do it sometimes to mix things up. need a change
every once and a while.

AS FOR THE LEFT HAND

I used to always go with 888800000 for a deep bass sound. I have now
discovered a more raunchy bass sound that has two uses.

First, of course when played at the lower octaves has an extremely "rockin"
bass

Secondly, When played at the very high octaves it will make your B3 SCREAM
like you would NOT BELIEVE. Also it is good for some glissandos. It can't
be used for really anything else because it sounds like a dying duck if you
try to lead with it.

Here it is baby:

088800000

Tell me what you think. THis has been a trick that us pentecostals have
used for a long time. Maybe it is only suitable for loud chuch but it
works.

I have other settings too but I think this is good enough


tell me what you think,



Brian


nice mellow tone to pl




>I'll post some drawbar settings for church organists soon........
>
>carlo
>
>
>
>




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You are able to get drawbar 9 to work with percussion engaged? I thought
this was only available with a Trek perc unit or a modification on the
"3" model organs and A-100.

Your registration is also known as the "Groove Holmes" sound..without
the perc engaged. Great sound!

Linda

Laddie Williams wrote:

Try 888000008 With Chorus3 and Percussion on, full, slow decay, and
3rd.
----- Original Message -----
From: Brian Williams
To: hammond_zone@...
Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 2:47 AM
Subject: Re: [hammond_zone] drawbar settings


 

You know Linda i thought i had a problem with my a-100 when i could'nt get a
sound out of that last drawbar with the perc on.I am assuming from your
comment that this is normal operation.If so,why doesn't the #9 drawbar
operate with perc on but turn perc off and "presto" it works.

Jeff......inquiring minds want to know ???


 

Very good explanation.And i even understood it !!!!! How doya like that.


thanks ...jeff


Carlo Pietroniro
 

well, the last drawbar is the 1' pitch, and maybe it's just too high for it to be of any value when used in conjunction with the percussion tabs........

just a guess..........

carlo


Peter D Abrams
 

Jeff

The perc circuitry needs something to figure out when a key has
just been pressed down so it can um, "perc". On the hammond consoles
they do this by 'stealing' one of the busbars, so that when you hit any
key, that busbar effectively gets grounded (almost, it's still a few
ohms above ground). This signal is sent to the percussion trigger input.
The perc circuitry in the preamp sees this voltage go low, and provides
a short term boost to either the note from the 4th bus (2nd harmonic) or
from the 5th bus (3rd harmonic).

Because once you press a key and hold it down, you've triggered the
percussion, so playing any additional notes will not retrigger the
percussion attack until you've gone back to 'all notes up'. To get all
the notes to each make a percussion attack, you have to learn an
'anti-legato' technique that makes sure that any key comes all the way
up after it's played and before the next key is pressed.

When you turn percussion off, the 9th drawbar gets it's note back.
On some spinet models and any other non AO-28 preamp organs, the perc
trigger might come from another bus, not necessarily the last one.
There's a part of the Hammond FAQ that describes how to move this from
the 9th to whatever other drawbar you'd like to assign it to.

Class dismissed!

pda
Jax Fl.


jlc7184@... wrote:

You know Linda i thought i had a problem with my a-100 when i
could'nt get a
sound out of that last drawbar with the perc on.I am assuming from
your
comment that this is normal operation.If so,why doesn't the #9 drawbar

operate with perc on but turn perc off and "presto" it works.

Jeff......inquiring minds want to know ???


 

Jeff:

The percussion needs to key off of something.
Hammond chose the 9th drawbar.
It can be changed.
There is a proceedure here:


I performed it on my C3

Mike

----- Original Message -----
From: jlc7184@...
To: hammond_zone@...
Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2002 3:17 PM
Subject: Re: [hammond_zone] drawbar settings


You know Linda i thought i had a problem with my a-100 when i could'nt get a
sound out of that last drawbar with the perc on.I am assuming from your
comment that this is normal operation.If so,why doesn't the #9 drawbar
operate with perc on but turn perc off and "presto" it works.

Jeff......inquiring minds want to know ???





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Chris Clifton
 

Jeff,
The last drawbar doesn't work when percussion is on because Hammond's
engineers "borrowed" that buss-bar and contacts to trigger the percussion.
On the L-100 it's the eighth drawbar that's used for percussion keying and
on the T-series you get a dedicated set of contacts for percussion, all
drawbars work even when percussion is selected.


Chris Clifton

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Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2002 8:17 PM
Subject: Re: [hammond_zone] drawbar settings


You know Linda i thought i had a problem with my a-100 when i could'nt get
a
sound out of that last drawbar with the perc on.I am assuming from your
comment that this is normal operation.If so,why doesn't the #9 drawbar
operate with perc on but turn perc off and "presto" it works.

Jeff......inquiring minds want to know ???






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Peter answered this wonderfully.

As far as changing this feature away from the 9th drawbar on the B
preset , I wouldn't do it if you want to "squabble" (800008888, and 4
"up" on the percussion.)
You can do this registration on the A# preset too, but it is not exactly
the same thing,

Reference recordings for this: many Jimmy Smith tunes, "Satin Doll",
"Mac the Knife", etc.etc..etc..

Squabbling is a term used to describe some of the techniques Errol
Garner used on the piano and this is the Hammond adaptation of that.
That's my best explanation.

Linda

jlc7184@... wrote:

You know Linda i thought i had a problem with my a-100 when i
could'nt get a
sound out of that last drawbar with the perc on.I am assuming from
your
comment that this is normal operation.If so,why doesn't the #9 drawbar

operate with perc on but turn perc off and "presto" it works.

Jeff......inquiring minds want to know ???


 

pleeze! i would lve to see them!


From: gdhiatt@...
Reply-To: hammond_zone@...
To: hammond_zone@...
Subject: Re: [hammond_zone] drawbar settings
Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2002 23:23:06 EST

In a message dated 2/28/02 8:23:09 PM Central Standard Time,
organist@... writes:


I have a dictionary of Hammond organ stops, which includes settings for
all
the traditional organ stops. If anyone's interested, I can post some of
them.
Please do, thanks!






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Carlo Pietroniro
 

Edythe,

I posted them during the past week, so you'll have to check the archives.

carlo