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Solo samples
Will somebody send Ron a sample of the B3 going thru its
paces. Give him plenty of crunch,tremelo, vibrato, and all those things that make a Hammond great. I`m not a good enough player to impress a skeptic. Give it to him hard. Suggested Songs: Happy Birthday, Old MacDonald had a farm, Mission Impossible. |
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lil' poem
Marc Saint-Félix
开云体育Ron,
You may compare a Rhodes mark I?to a Wurlitzer
200a (I'd take the wurly).
You may compare a Steinway D piano to a
b?sendorffer concert piano (I'd take the D).
You may compare a porsche?to a ferrari (I'd
take the ferrari).
You may compare italian?to chinese food (i'd
take italian food).
But you just CAN'T compare a Hammond organ to a
piano.
Plus, what do you call a
Hammond????? the B4???? ouch.
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Guru Saj.
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Watch out guys,?my crappy poem is protected by
copyright 2001.
Anyway, the least I can say is that you have the
courage of your convictions Ron. That's a good thing.
Regards,
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Marc. |
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Re: [hammond_zone] Playing Style
Ron Newman
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I don't mean to drag this out but........in yor comparison are you calling
the piano a golf cart?? Hammonds are great instruments and I love
the sound that it makes especially in a church setting.? But the organ
is electric and a piano is acoustic? the reason many organ players
don't play piano well is because (as someone else said) you get what you
get and you can't cover up well on a piano because of the piano's technical
nature. Organists usually don't have the finger dexterity that pianists
have because of the light weighted keys.? The hammond B3 w/ a leslie
122 is an awesome combination!!!!!!!! but again this is an electric situation.?
It can't compare in sound, workmanship, or price to a Steinway 9ft. Concert
Grand!!!!!!!!!!!!!!? This is the ultimate keybord instrument...but
I do love the B3 for what is does.
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? ? ? ? ? zakemo@... wrote: You guys are comparing apples and oranges. Pianos are way cool instuments? |
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Re: [hammond_zone] Playing Style
Ron, I love all keyboards, but the Hammond is way at the
top of my list. For gospel music, nothing beats the Hammond B3 combination. I`ve been in churches where the Hammond out-preached the preacher. Its been called the "Voice of God". All we are saying here is don`t put our Hammonds down. We love them and we love the people who play them. And i don`t think you will find many on the board who will disagree with me.-- Jesus is King of the World. Believe that. |
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Re: [hammond_zone] Playing Style (Lacking?)
Ron Newman
I don't denigrate the Hammond Jeff, and Zaky, I just question ways of
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playing it. Ron. ----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeff Dairiki" <dairiki@...> To: <hammond_zone@...> Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001 12:01 AM Subject: Re: [hammond_zone] Playing Style (Lacking?) it.They both have black and white
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Re: [hammond_zone] Playing Style
Ron Newman
you'll need a midi pedal-board with your B4...Yeah, reckon so. I suppose there's a midi one? Ron. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dirk Beintema" <de_touche@...> To: <hammond_zone@...> Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001 12:55 AM Subject: Re: [hammond_zone] Playing Style howFrom: "Ron Newman" <ron.newman2@...> hecan I say, percussive effects that a Hammond gives you. whilehas set up, particularly the guitar to keep the chord sequence going whathe plays those single note melody improvs. there.Jimmy does, playing solo, without the rhythm section, you don't get said above, LH bass and RH melody supported by some chord notes.Hello Ron, |
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Re: [hammond_zone] Playing Style
Ron Newman
开云体育Darren, yeah, crucial. The pedals. I don't do
pedals. I got enough to work at without going into that. But yes, single note in
RH with appropriate single note melody registration and LH on the other manual
with appropriate chord registration, and pedals, and you might be getting near
to Jimmy Smith. If you had a guitarist and drummer.
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Solo though, with my LH occupied with bass, ok for
slow ballads, for a while, but I want to get into an extra playing style.
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Do you mean solo gospel playing? No choir?
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And that Pooley thing, what sort of music was
that?
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Seems the Hammond sounds best with close harmony.
There's been a bit of talk here about block chords, well that's close harmony,
and that sounds good. And typical. But you can't do block chords unless you can
do pedals in support.
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I've got to find some solo Hammond playing on CD
that gets away from the slow ballad, bass note and close harmony.
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Ron.
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Re: [hammond_zone] Playing Style
Ron Newman
Well yes KC. Not only that, long notes, but the timbre, what about the
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timbre, that's a bit different to a piano ain't it? Ron. Dear Ron, |
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Piano vs Organ
I have played the C3 in church for over 5 yrs and recently. Quit that church
and where I go now we only have a grand piano and keyboard. Oh how I miss cranking up that Leslie and making heaven come down. ?Just don't Quite get the same effect with the keyboard or piano. My thing on the organ is it covers a lot of mistakes what you play on the piano is what you get. Boy I didn't realize I was such a terrible piano player. ?Oh well maybe I will Get a B3 or C3 again to bring the Glory down. Enjoy reading and listening to all on this great group. ???play it again Sam |
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Re: [hammond_zone] Playing Style
Dirk Beintema
From: "Ron Newman" <ron.newman2@...>Hello Ron, I've got some homework to do for you!!! Study some bits of Keith Emmerson and tap your feet on the pedal-board as Jimmy does on "Crazy Baby" (leavin' the bassplayer at home for changin' dipers!)Oops, you'll need a midi pedal-board with your B4... _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at . |
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Re: [hammond_zone] Playing Style
Dan & Connie
Dear Dear Ron
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I get it, your just mess'in with us all eh? It's silly to compare a piano to an organ, they are simply two different instruments, it is interesting to discuss the difference in playing styles for the benefit of all the musicians that cover both instruments in band situations. For instance, I like to write and arrange at the piano, but when it comes to burn'in it up with an emotional and moving solo the Hammond is what turns my crank, but they are different instruments. Maybe I'm partial to the organ because I can turn it up and wipe up to that high "C" and kick in the leslie........oh don't get me started! Anyway's, guys I've been enjoying all the comments that go through here and look forward everyday to coming home from the office and seeing if anything new is here, (except for these piano guys, dig dig, just kidding!) Dan -----Original Message-----
From: Ron Newman [mailto:ron.newman2@...] Sent: June 21, 2001 2:36 PM To: hammond_zone@... Subject: [hammond_zone] Playing Style I'm more of a pianist than a Hammond player but I've got B4. Seems to me that playing a conventional Hammond style is limited harmonically, I mean what else can you do, bass note in the left hand, and a melody note with the right 5th finger and supported by a few chord notes with the other right fingers. Yeah, I know, great sound, but nothing like the great variety of voicings (chord shapes) you can do on a piano. The Hammond just doesn't sound good with those piano voicings, perhaps because of the complicated registrations, 5ths and 3rds added into the layer of every note. It all gets too muddy. Jimmy Smith doesn't do much more than that. It's more like playing a drum kit. The music is achieved by using the, how can I say, percussive effects that a Hammond gives you. The sound that Jimmy gets is as much due to the sound of the group that he has set up, particularly the guitar to keep the chord sequence going while he plays those single note melody improvs. And the drum backing gives him a supporting interest. If you copy just what Jimmy does, playing solo, without the rhythm section, you don't get there. For solo playing you fall back on the, eventually unsatisfying, like I said above, LH bass and RH melody supported by some chord notes. But you will disagree with me? Hopefully. Ron. Visit The Hammond Zone To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: hammond_zone-unsubscribe@... Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to |
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Re: [hammond_zone] Fw: C-3 with Note problem
I have a C-3 and Leslie that has a couple of problems. The C-3 doesn'tYour first problem is likely to be poor grounding, not always easy to sort out if you do not have an good understanding of the electronic principles involved. Basically check on the tightness of griound wires between various chassis parts etc. The other problem may be due to old filter caps having lost some of their capacity or valves tiring. Regards David |
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Re: [hammond_zone] Playing Style
开云体育one thought...no mention of bass pedals...ever
tried those? Recently I heard Rod Pooley play a?4 part harmony piece on a
Hammond using bass pedals, by mixing the?third part between left hand and
right hand, at the same time as he played parts one and two with the same hands,
and finally the fourth part on the bass pedals!
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also, Jimmy explores only one? or two basic
registrations, (16, 5 1/3 and 8 ft or all nine) try listening to other artists
that explore?more than two of the 253,000,000 combinations of
drawbars.?Maybe this will give you the inspiration to widen out your
playing style a little, because unless you are as accomplished as the great
Jimmy Smith (who uses the pedal by the way; in a rather unique double bass
type?style) you...like me will quickly become frustrated. How about a
little Gospel music if you are seeking some inspirational chording! Used in
conjunction with a Leslie it will make the hairs on the back of your neck stand
on end like no other instrument:)
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Darren
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Geoffrey Dairiki
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