Re: X-66 Trouble shooting Help
....and that should have also read 1/4 oz of oil for the tone generator.
Don Resor http://hammondorganservice.com Sent from someone's iPhone
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On Feb 17, 2020, at 1:38 AM, Don Resor <organlists1@...> wrote:
? Make that a total of THREE oiling cups for the X-66 Scanners. ? ? Donald R. Resor Jr. T. W. & T. C. Svc. Co. http://hammondorganservice.com
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"Most people don’t have a sense of humor. They think they do, but they don’t." --Jonathan Winters ? ? ? ? The difference is though, the X66 like the B3/C3 after a certain time during their manufacturing no longer have the cups which were mounted on the back of the playing manual assembly attached to the copper tubes which fed the funnels at the top of the run motor/scanner and tone generator. ? Typically a tone wheel Hammond required ? ounce of oil per year.? With the X-66 generator one half an ounce will probably be more than plenty and the generator will be “sloshing” in oil.? I think ? ounce should be sufficient for the tone generator of 12 wheels.? Use the rest for the Howard motor, and scanner oiling cups of which there are two. ? ? Donald R. Resor Jr. T. W. & T. C. Svc. Co. http://hammondorganservice.com
Hammond USA warranty service
"Most people don’t have a sense of humor. They think they do, but they don’t." --Jonathan Winters ? ? ? ? The same as any other tonewheel generator? Fill each cup on the generator twice, allowing the oil to drain into the generator each time, A few drops into the filler tubes on the motor, (The X-66 is a self starting generator if I recall correctly). On 16/02/2020 19:05, BobGuttman via Groups.Io wrote: Does anyone know the amount of oil that should be used when doing the yearly oiling of the X-66 tonewheel generator?
Thx.
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X-66 Trouble shooting Help
Make that a total of THREE oiling cups for the X-66 Scanners. ? ? Donald R. Resor Jr. T. W. & T. C. Svc. Co. http://hammondorganservice.com
Hammond USA warranty service
"Most people don’t have a sense of humor. They think they do, but they don’t." --Jonathan Winters ? ? ?
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From: D. Resor <organlists1@...>
Sent: Monday, February 17, 2020 1:07 AM
To: '[email protected]' <[email protected]>
Subject: RE: [hammondzone] X-66 Trouble shooting Help? The difference is though, the X66 like the B3/C3 after a certain time during their manufacturing no longer have the cups which were mounted on the back of the playing manual assembly attached to the copper tubes which fed the funnels at the top of the run motor/scanner and tone generator. ? Typically a tone wheel Hammond required ? ounce of oil per year.? With the X-66 generator one half an ounce will probably be more than plenty and the generator will be “sloshing” in oil.? I think ? ounce should be sufficient for the tone generator of 12 wheels.? Use the rest for the Howard motor, and scanner oiling cups of which there are two. ? ? Donald R. Resor Jr. T. W. & T. C. Svc. Co. http://hammondorganservice.com
Hammond USA warranty service
"Most people don’t have a sense of humor. They think they do, but they don’t." --Jonathan Winters ? ? ? ? The same as any other tonewheel generator? Fill each cup on the generator twice, allowing the oil to drain into the generator each time, A few drops into the filler tubes on the motor, (The X-66 is a self starting generator if I recall correctly). On 16/02/2020 19:05, BobGuttman via Groups.Io wrote: Does anyone know the amount of oil that should be used when doing the yearly oiling of the X-66 tonewheel generator?
Thx.
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Re: X-66 Trouble shooting Help
The difference is though, the X66 like the B3/C3 after a certain time during their manufacturing no longer have the cups which were mounted on the back of the playing manual assembly attached to the copper tubes which fed the funnels at the top of the run motor/scanner and tone generator. ? Typically a tone wheel Hammond required ? ounce of oil per year.? With the X-66 generator one half an ounce will probably be more than plenty and the generator will be “sloshing” in oil.? I think ? ounce should be sufficient for the tone generator of 12 wheels.? Use the rest for the Howard motor, and scanner oiling cups of which there are two. ? ? Donald R. Resor Jr. T. W. & T. C. Svc. Co. http://hammondorganservice.com
Hammond USA warranty service
"Most people don’t have a sense of humor. They think they do, but they don’t." --Jonathan Winters ? ? ?
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Chris Clifton
Sent: Monday, February 17, 2020 12:03 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [hammondzone] X-66 Trouble shooting Help? The same as any other tonewheel generator? Fill each cup on the generator twice, allowing the oil to drain into the generator each time, A few drops into the filler tubes on the motor, (The X-66 is a self starting generator if I recall correctly). On 16/02/2020 19:05, BobGuttman via Groups.Io wrote: Does anyone know the amount of oil that should be used when doing the yearly oiling of the X-66 tonewheel generator?
Thx.
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Re: X-66 Trouble shooting Help
The same as any other tonewheel generator? Fill each cup on the
generator twice, allowing the oil to drain into the generator each
time, A few drops into the filler tubes on the motor, (The X-66 is
a self starting generator if I recall correctly).
On 16/02/2020 19:05, BobGuttman via
Groups.Io wrote:
Does anyone know the amount of oil that should be used when doing
the yearly oiling of the X-66 tonewheel generator?
Thx.
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Re: Hammond PR 40 Reverb Issues
Replace the caps with the kit from Tonewheel General Hospital.
On 2/16/2020 9:20 PM, john
alluneedtoknow via Groups.Io wrote:
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Gentlemen,
I am hoping someone can shed some light on my issues, the primary
one being distortion and some "frying egg" noise. The distortion
is more pronounced on lower notes especially with multiple notes
played together. This occurs only when reverb is on. All tubes are
fine as tested in another PR 40 and I replaced the RCA cable from
necklace to amp. Two other minor issues, the reverb is switchable
using the chorale/tremolo switch. The console is outfitted with
the Trek II SS1 preamp if I remember the model correctly, the Trek
folks asked me some questions then said it was a very early model,
and lastly, the bass isn't as strong as on my other PR 40.
Tomorrow, with assistance I will try to confirm both 15"s are
working. In summary the unit plays clean with reverb off but gets
ugly when the reverb is on.
Thank You one and all,
?John
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Hammond PR 40 Reverb Issues
Gentlemen,
I am hoping someone can shed some light on my issues, the primary one being distortion and some "frying egg" noise. The distortion is more pronounced on lower notes especially with multiple notes played together. This occurs only when reverb is on. All tubes are fine as tested in another PR 40 and I replaced the RCA cable from necklace to amp. Two other minor issues, the reverb is switchable using the chorale/tremolo switch. The console is outfitted with the Trek II SS1 preamp if I remember the model correctly, the Trek folks asked me some questions then said it was a very early model, and lastly, the bass isn't as strong as on my other PR 40. Tomorrow, with assistance I will try to confirm both 15"s are working. In summary the unit plays clean with reverb off but gets ugly when the reverb is on.
Thank You one and all,
?John
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Re: X-66 Trouble shooting Help
Does anyone know the amount of oil that should be used when doing the yearly oiling of the X-66 tonewheel generator?
Thx.
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Re: X-66 Trouble shooting Help
Yeah a sandy beach sounds really nice right about now.? We had +6F here this morning so a good day to go work in? my shop on the organ.?
I have a White lab who is totally dependent on me so like you, I will have to pass on the convention.? Would be fun to meet and greet other Hammond fans.
Bob
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From: Diayne McComis <diayne@...>
To: hammondzone < [email protected]>
Sent: Thu, Feb 13, 2020 9:50 am
Subject: Re: [hammondzone] X-66 Trouble shooting Help
Bob, when I was in Mexico at the X66 convention, Dan did a seminar on how to install midi on the
X66, he was amazing to follow his instructions.
I heard they are going to have another convention in September this year,, it is usually held in Cancun and it is well worth it if you could contact Paco for details.
I doubt if I can go this year as I have a cat that requires meds 3 times a day to keep him alive, however there are people from all over the world that show up for it, tons of fun...
Later, Jim Mc.
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Re: X-66 Trouble shooting Help
Bob, when I was in Mexico at the X66 convention, Dan did a seminar on how to install midi on the
X66, he was amazing to follow his instructions.
I heard they are going to have another convention in September this year,, it is usually held in Cancun and it is well worth it if you could contact Paco for details.
I doubt if I can go this year as I have a cat that requires meds 3 times a day to keep him alive, however there are people from all over the world that show up for it, tons of fun...
Later, Jim Mc.
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Re: X-66 Trouble shooting Help
Hey Jim -
Dan has been my go to man for this project.? He has been very helpful and I am appreciative of his help.? I think he has all the circuits for this organ memorized.? Nice guy.? Wish he were closer.
Bob
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From: Diayne McComis <diayne@...>
To: hammondzone < [email protected]>
Sent: Thu, Feb 13, 2020 7:22 am
Subject: Re: [hammondzone] X-66 Trouble shooting Help
I met Dan Vigin in Mexico several years ago he is an excellent tec for the X66. I'm sure he can help you with any problems you might run across in your venture. Please keep posting on your updates.
Later, Jim Mc.
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Re: X-66 Trouble shooting Help
I met Dan Vigin in Mexico several years ago he is an excellent tec for the X66. I'm sure he can help you with any problems you might run across in your venture. Please keep posting on your updates.
Later, Jim Mc.
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Re: X-66 Trouble shooting Help
Hey Jim -
Thanks for asking.? Had to take some time off from the organ to dig out of a snow storm we had here.? I live in the country, so when the white stuff comes, you gotta get it moved and moved fast.? Good thing I like snow.
Making good progress on the organ.? Stilling trying to isolate the low level output from the 4 outputs to the tone cabinets.? Working on the photo cells in the swell pedal now but other then that, it's coming right along.?
I"ve never heard an X-66 play, so not sure what to expect out the of the tone cabinets.? But the Mic output is strong so thinking they are not the issue.
Again, thanks for asking.? Will keep you posted.? Bottom line is I'm learning a lot and having fun working on this organ.? Wisconsin winters are long so this is a great project for me.
Best,
Bob
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From: Diayne McComis <diayne@...>
To: hammondzone < [email protected]>
Sent: Wed, Feb 12, 2020 6:28 pm
Subject: Re: [hammondzone] X-66 Trouble shooting Help
Bob,? How is the x66 coming along, what is or was the problem?
Jim Mc
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Re: X-66 Trouble shooting Help
Bob,? How is the x66 coming along, what is or was the problem?
Jim Mc
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Re: X-66 Trouble shooting Help
I just got a message from him and he has offered to help me.? Thank you for making the connection.
Bob
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From: Diayne McComis <diayne@...>
To: hammondzone < [email protected]>
Sent: Tue, Feb 4, 2020 4:03 pm
Subject: Re: [hammondzone] X-66 Trouble shooting Help
Bob, try Skynet.be as for your last question re proportional and voltages I can't respond to that.
Jim Mc
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Re: X-66 Trouble shooting Help
Bob, try Skynet.be as for your last question re proportional and voltages I can't respond to that.
Jim Mc
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Re: X-66 Trouble shooting Help
Jim - I think I have found a problem, but not sure.?
I have been looking at the proportional keyers, and monitoring the voltage at K1 (key input voltage) and no matter what or how many drawbars are pulled out, the voltage stays at -15VDC.? If I read the theory of operation correctly, shouldn't this voltage increase and decrease depending on the position of the drawbars?
I would be grateful to anyone who can address this for me.
Thanks
Bob
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From: Diayne McComis <diayne@...>
To: hammondzone < [email protected]>
Sent: Tue, Feb 4, 2020 10:17 am
Subject: Re: [hammondzone] X-66 Trouble shooting Help
Bob, I wrote Paco and he was going to get you registered on the Hammond X66 site. Also, and this is info for all members which could have questions re. X66s There is a great repair man in Brussels which installed MIDI on his X66. He may be able to help in any problems you need assistance with. He speaks English , this is his Email.....? dan.vigin@...
Jim Mc
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Re: X-66 Trouble shooting Help
Bob, "be" is the last part missing.
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Re: X-66 Trouble shooting Help
Bob, I wrote Paco and he was going to get you registered on the Hammond X66 site. Also, and this is info for all members which could have questions re. X66s There is a great repair man in Brussels which installed MIDI on his X66. He may be able to help in any problems you need assistance with. He speaks English , this is his Email.....? dan.vigin@...
Jim Mc
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Re: X-66 Trouble shooting Help
I will certainly do that.? Thanks for your input...appreciate it
Bob
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From: organtec2004 <organtec@...>
To: hammondzone < [email protected]>
Sent: Sat, Feb 1, 2020 8:22 am
Subject: Re: [hammondzone] X-66 Trouble shooting Help
Tone generator output does not change with age.check the clipper amps output. Then check the divider outputs.
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I am assuming that my divider circuits are working because I do have proper tones on each and every key.? What I don't know is the amplitude of the signal from the TG feeding them.? I may be wrong in this assumption, but shouldn't the output of the TG remain constant regardless of age?? Rotating wheel, magnetic field, seems impervious to age in my book (unlike myself).
Can you or anyone answer that question?
I guess looking at the proportional keyers is the next step after the TG and as you said the Flute filters.
I'm gonna get a scope and do some checking of wave forms and P-P outputs.? As I said, I'm new to this, but there is a lot of winter left here so it will keep my mind busy.? Better then doing crossword puzzles.
PS:? If anyone is looking for a good investment, buy stock in Captain Morgan Rum. . .there may be a spike in sales depending how this goes!
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From: Diayne McComis <diayne@...>
To: hammondzone <[email protected]>
Sent: Fri, Jan 31, 2020 5:33 pm
Subject: Re: [hammondzone] X-66 Trouble shooting Help
The biggest trouble with the X66 is it only has12 wheels on the generator and all the sounds are divided into all of the sounds for the organ. If you have? a way to check the output of the generator
then back track to the filter board to see where you start loosing the signal and on which board you are checking you might? get lucky enough to find the culprit. I only hope someone else has some experience in helping you as I am out of ideas.
Jim Mc
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Re: X-66 Trouble shooting Help
Tone generator output does not change with age.check the clipper amps output. Then check the divider outputs. ?
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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of BobGuttman via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, January 31, 2020 7:29 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [hammondzone] X-66 Trouble shooting Help? I am assuming that my divider circuits are working because I do have proper tones on each and every key.? What I don't know is the amplitude of the signal from the TG feeding them.? I may be wrong in this assumption, but shouldn't the output of the TG remain constant regardless of age?? Rotating wheel, magnetic field, seems impervious to age in my book (unlike myself). Can you or anyone answer that question? I guess looking at the proportional keyers is the next step after the TG and as you said the Flute filters. I'm gonna get a scope and do some checking of wave forms and P-P outputs.? As I said, I'm new to this, but there is a lot of winter left here so it will keep my mind busy.? Better then doing crossword puzzles. PS:? If anyone is looking for a good investment, buy stock in Captain Morgan Rum. . .there may be a spike in sales depending how this goes! -----Original Message-----
From: Diayne McComis <diayne@...>
To: hammondzone <[email protected]>
Sent: Fri, Jan 31, 2020 5:33 pm
Subject: Re: [hammondzone] X-66 Trouble shooting Help The biggest trouble with the X66 is it only has12 wheels on the generator and all the sounds are divided into all of the sounds for the organ. If you have? a way to check the output of the generator
then back track to the filter board to see where you start loosing the signal and on which board you are checking you might? get lucky enough to find the culprit. I only hope someone else has some experience in helping you as I am out of ideas.
Jim Mc
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