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Mike(W5UC) & Kathy(K5MWH)
Francis, several days ago I attempted to end this discussion by saying
that we will not agree on this.? We? will not!? Who is the
moderator here and why isn't he doing his job?? It is time to end
this rant designed to promote socialism.
At 07:15 AM 1/4/2007, you wrote:
poor congress needs the money to
pad their package since a lot of those useless AHs will retire
today
craxd wrote:
- It's a shame that the states had to step in and raise the minimum
- wage instead of the old congress. That shows where the one parties
- loyalties are at. During this time, the minority party tried to raise
- the minimum wage three times, and the majority party shot it down.
- Even at these current raises by the states, the folks making minimum
- wage are still under the poverty level in this country. Congress
- changed hands today, so I expect a federal minimum wage increase is
- around the corner pretty soon.
- Lets say that if one worked 8 hours a day, 5 days per week, at 4
- weeks per month, times 12 months, what would their gross income be at
- $7.25 an hour? It comes up to a whopping $13,920! They shouldn't be
- any income tax as that's under the minimum to file I think, unless
- any states are stricter on state income tax. Rent is around $500 a
- month at the cheapest around here (unless you live in squalor or the
- projects), then you have the utility bills. If you have kids, then
- it's worse as one still has to eat. What do you then do if you get
- sick? I seen on a news show that Walmart does offer health insurance,
- but you have to pay for it out of your payroll check at about $120+ a
- month. At that, I think that's per person if I recall. The employees
- simply can't afford this, so they end up on Medicaid if they have
- children. Medicaid is paid for out of both federal and state tax
- dollars that we contribute. If Walmart was unionized, they would
- receive health benefits through the company with a guaranteed
- retirement benefit. They would also be able to raise grievances and
- be protected from immediate termination at any time some boss get's a
- burr up his/her ass. Right now, Walmart advises any vendor to move
- their production to China if they want to sell to them. This so they
- can double or triple on the products they sell to us and make the CEO
- a fortune. That golden parachute is all that counts to them. To top
- it all, at one time, Walmart bragged they bought all they could from
- US manufacturers. Walmart if NOT the only one doing this
either.
- The company I used to work for, ACF Industries, practically shut down
- both union plants they have. They are in Huntington, WV, and Milton
- PA. Now, they only have them making piece parts with no new RR car
- production, and about 1/8 the work force. They built 2 new plants in
- Arkansas, one for tank cars and the other for the center flow hopper
- car they made here in Huntington. In the union plants, a welder made
- about $12 an hour plus bonus (equalling about $16 an hour), and all
- the union benefits. There, a welder gets about $8 an hour in a
non-
- union shop.
- Best,
- Will
- --- In
ham_amplifiers@..., "pentalab"
- wrote:
- >
- > --- In
ham_amplifiers@..., "ky4sp"
wrote:
- > >
- > > I beg to differ; half my family works at Wal-Mart. It beats
- flipping
- > > hamburgers by quite a bit. Of course they realize that
having "a
- > > job" in itself doesn't guarantee that you will have a
nice house,
- > > car and pocketful of $$ for the weekend.
- > >
- > > The fact is that many entry-level jobs simply are not worth
the
- > > current minimum wage, if that.
- >
- > ### say what ?? How can any entry level job not be worth
- current
- > minimum wage ?? What is current minimum wage..... and when was
- the
- > last time somebody raised the current minimum wage ??
- >
- > ### Here's an interesting experiment. Let's say there was no
- minimum
- > wage. I wonder just how low employer's would go... and how low
- joe
- > smuck would work for ??
- >
- > Later... Jim VE7RF
- >
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--- In ham_amplifiers@..., "Mike(W5UC) & Kathy(K5MWH)" <w5uc@...> wrote:
Francis, several days ago I attempted to end this discussion by
saying that we will not agree on this. We will not! Who is the
moderator here and why isn't he doing his job? It is time to end
this rant designed to promote socialism.
### What's wrong with Socialism ?? Works here. What needs to be gov't run is stuff like medical/dental/ residential water/commercial AC power production/ car insurance/ Ferry sytems, etc. At least that's our idea of.."socilism" You privatize any of that just mentioned... and prices skyrocket.. and standards drop. ## case in point.... in VE6 land... they had this brilliant idea they would privatize.. and sell off ALL AC power production. The idea was that private co's would invest Billions in new power production. They were gonna chop it up into 8-10 pieces. When only 4-5 co's showed up... they were surprised... and proceeded to divvy up the province of alberta into North south east west. The co's are real happy now. NONE of em compete with each other... since they have their own turf. None of em are the slighest bit interested in spending Billions to generate new AC power. [the provincial gov't there thought with some co spending billions on new power... rates would...drop]. Instead... there was no increase in production at all.... rates went up as much as 450 % !! ### In the UK... they did the same thing with their various water supply's for residential water. Their water rates have gone up 400 % ! They also privatized the construction of new hospital facilities.... now the consumer is paying through the nose for it. ### cheap electric/water rates means a better economy. You start paying sky high rates... and the one of 2 things happen.... either increased production costs get passed onto the consumer... or co XXX sells up... and moves. In VE6 land... they had foundries that had been there a long time... and couldn't compete with the province of manitoba [VE4 land].... due to the huge difference in electrical rates. The foundries in VE6 land moved to VE4 land. ## If u wanna pay retail + 100%... go for it. Most of us like the wholesale rate. later... Jim VE7RF
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Jim,
?
Socialism doesn't work, has not ever worked, and will never work for the
every reasons you have pointed out in your previous emails.? Anytime you
get the government involved in anything, corruption causes things to go to
hell.? Government is the biggest source of corruption in society.? It
surpasses individuals, businesses, and anything else you can name.? God
save us from more big government.? I'll take big business corruption any
day compare to big government corruption.? We elect people who think they
know what is right for you.? They end up knowing what is right for
them.
?
The US
had a famous cowboy philosopher back in the 1920's by the name of Will
Rogers.??He was a Democrat and probably?some what of a socialist,
but one of his most famous quotes was " The people elected Calvin Coolidge
president.? He didn't do much, but that's what the people wanted."? I
think that's what the people in the US want today.? A president and
congress that won't do much. Stop trying to fix things and just leave us
along!!!!!
?
David
?
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--- In ham_amplifiers@yahoogroups.com,
"Mike(W5UC) & Kathy(K5MWH)"
wrote:
>
> Francis, several days ago I attempted to end this
discussion by
> saying that we will not agree on this. We will not! Who
is the
> moderator here and why isn't he doing his job? It is time to
end
> this rant designed to promote socialism.
### What's wrong
with Socialism ?? Works here. What needs to
be gov't run is stuff like
medical/dental/ residential
water/commercial AC power production/ car
insurance/ Ferry sytems,
etc. At least that's our idea of.."socilism" You
privatize any
of that just mentioned... and prices skyrocket.. and
standards drop.
## case in point.... in VE6 land... they had this
brilliant idea
they would privatize.. and sell off ALL AC power
production. The
idea was that private co's would invest Billions in new
power
production. They were gonna chop it up into 8-10 pieces. When
only 4-5 co's showed up... they were surprised... and proceeded
to
divvy up the province of alberta into North south east west.
The co's are
real happy now. NONE of em compete with each
other... since they have
their own turf. None of em are the
slighest bit interested in spending
Billions to generate new AC
power. [the provincial gov't there thought
with some co spending
billions on new power... rates would...drop].
Instead... there
was no increase in production at all.... rates went up as
much as
450 % !!
### In the UK... they did the same thing with
their various water
supply's for residential water. Their water rates have
gone up
400 % ! They also privatized the construction of new hospital
facilities.... now the consumer is paying through the nose for
it.
### cheap electric/water rates means a better economy. You start
paying sky high rates... and the one of 2 things happen.... either
increased production costs get passed onto the consumer... or co XXX
sells up... and moves. In VE6 land... they had foundries that had
been
there a long time... and couldn't compete with the province of
manitoba
[VE4 land].... due to the huge difference in electrical
rates. The
foundries in VE6 land moved to VE4 land.
## If u wanna pay retail +
100%... go for it. Most of us like the
wholesale rate.
later...
Jim VE7RF
>
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So you think the set up we have today is good?
"David C. Hallam" wrote:
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Jim, ? Socialism doesn't work, has not ever worked, and will never work for the every reasons you have pointed out in your previous emails.? Anytime you get the
government involved in anything, corruption causes things to go to hell.? Government is the biggest source of corruption in society.? It surpasses individuals, businesses, and anything else you can name.? God save us from more big government.? I'll take big business corruption any day compare to big government corruption.? We elect people who think they know what is right for you.? They end up knowing what is right for them. ? The US had a famous cowboy philosopher back in the 1920's by the name of Will Rogers.??He was a Democrat and probably?some what of a socialist, but one of his most famous quotes was " The people elected Calvin Coolidge president.? He didn't do much, but that's what the people wanted."? I think that's what
the people in the US want today.? A president and congress that won't do much. Stop trying to fix things and just leave us along!!!!! ? David ? --- In ham_amplifiers@yahoogroups.com, "Mike(W5UC) & Kathy(K5MWH) " wrote: > > Francis, several days ago I attempted to end this discussion by > saying that we will not agree on this. We will not! Who is the > moderator here and why isn't he doing his job? It is time to end > this rant designed to promote socialism. ### What's wrong with Socialism ?? Works here. What needs to be gov't run is stuff like medical/dental/ residential water/commercial AC power production/ car insurance/ Ferry sytems, etc. At least that's our idea of.."socilism" You privatize any of that just mentioned... and prices skyrocket.. and standards drop. ## case in point.... in VE6 land... they had this brilliant idea they would privatize.. and sell off ALL AC power production. The idea was that private co's would invest Billions in new power
production. They were gonna chop it up into 8-10 pieces. When only 4-5 co's showed up... they were surprised... and proceeded to divvy up the province of alberta into North south east west. The co's are real happy now. NONE of em compete with each other... since they have their own turf. None of em are the slighest bit interested in spending Billions to generate new AC power. [the provincial gov't there thought with some co spending billions on new power... rates would...drop] . Instead... there was no increase in production at all.... rates went up as much as 450 % !! ### In the UK... they did the same thing with their various water supply's for residential water. Their water rates have gone up 400 % ! They also privatized the construction of new hospital facilities.. .. now the consumer is paying through the nose for it. ### cheap electric/water rates means a better economy. You start paying
sky high rates... and the one of 2 things happen.... either increased production costs get passed onto the consumer... or co XXX sells up... and moves. In VE6 land... they had foundries that had been there a long time... and couldn't compete with the province of manitoba [VE4 land].... due to the huge difference in electrical rates. The foundries in VE6 land moved to VE4 land. ## If u wanna pay retail + 100%... go for it. Most of us like the wholesale rate. later... Jim VE7RF >
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Mike(W5UC) & Kathy(K5MWH)
WHAT PART OF ENOUGH! DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND?
At 08:18 AM 1/5/2007, you wrote:
So you think the set up we have
today is good?
"David C. Hallam"
wrote:
- Jim,
- ?
- Socialism doesn't work, has not ever
worked, and will never work for the every reasons you have pointed out in
your previous emails.? Anytime you get the government involved in
anything, corruption causes things to go to hell.? Government is the
biggest source of corruption in society.? It surpasses individuals,
businesses, and anything else you can name.? God save us from more
big government.? I'll take big business corruption any day compare
to big government corruption.? We elect people who think they know
what is right for you.? They end up knowing what is right for
them.
- ?
- The US had a famous cowboy philosopher
back in the 1920's by the name of Will Rogers.? He was a Democrat
and probably some what of a socialist, but one of his most famous quotes
was " The people elected Calvin Coolidge president.? He didn't
do much, but that's what the people wanted."? I think that's
what the people in the US want today.? A president and congress that
won't do much. Stop trying to fix things and just leave us
along!!!!!
- ?
- David
- ?
- -----Original Message-----
- From: ham_amplifiers@...
[
mailto:ham_amplifiers@...]On Behalf Of pentalab
- Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 4:19 PM
- To: ham_amplifiers@...
- Subject: [ham_amplifiers] Re: Enough!
- --- In
ham_amplifiers@..., "Mike(W5UC) &
Kathy(K5MWH)"
- wrote:
- >
- > Francis, several days ago I attempted to end this discussion by
- > saying that we will not agree on this. We will not! Who is the
- > moderator here and why isn't he doing his job? It is time to end
- > this rant designed to promote socialism.
- ### What's wrong with Socialism ?? Works here. What needs to
- be gov't run is stuff like medical/dental/ residential
- water/commercial AC power production/ car insurance/ Ferry sytems,
- etc. At least that's our idea of.."socilism" You privatize
any
- of that just mentioned... and prices skyrocket.. and standards drop.
- ## case in point.... in VE6 land... they had this brilliant idea
- they would privatize.. and sell off ALL AC power production. The
- idea was that private co's would invest Billions in new power
- production. They were gonna chop it up into 8-10 pieces. When
- only 4-5 co's showed up... they were surprised... and proceeded
- to divvy up the province of alberta into North south east west.
- The co's are real happy now. NONE of em compete with each
- other... since they have their own turf. None of em are the
- slighest bit interested in spending Billions to generate new AC
- power. [the provincial gov't there thought with some co spending
- billions on new power... rates would...drop]. Instead... there
- was no increase in production at all.... rates went up as much as
- 450 % !!
- ### In the UK... they did the same thing with their various water
- supply's for residential water. Their water rates have gone up
- 400 % ! They also privatized the construction of new hospital
- facilities.... now the consumer is paying through the nose for
it.
- ### cheap electric/water rates means a better economy. You start
- paying sky high rates... and the one of 2 things happen.... either
- increased production costs get passed onto the consumer... or co XXX
- sells up... and moves. In VE6 land... they had foundries that had
- been there a long time... and couldn't compete with the province of
- manitoba [VE4 land].... due to the huge difference in electrical
- rates. The foundries in VE6 land moved to VE4 land.
- ## If u wanna pay retail + 100%... go for it. Most of us like the
- wholesale rate.
- later... Jim VE7RF
- >
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There is NO MODARATOR.
I created this group on Yahoo.
That's all your going to get out of me.
As it says PLAY NICE.
If? there are jerks here so be it. NO CENSURE of
any kind.
So who wants to be the GOD of this group and control
and censure and moderate????? NOT ME.
PLAY NICE and TRY to keep it AMP related..
Your all big boys your gonna just have to act like it.
pentalab wrote:
--- In ham_amplifiers@yahoogroups.com,
"Mike(W5UC) & Kathy(K5MWH)"
wrote:
>
> Francis, several days ago I attempted to end this discussion by
> saying that we will not agree on this. We will not! Who is the
> moderator here and why isn't he doing his job? It is time to end
> this rant designed to promote socialism.
### What's wrong with Socialism ?? Works here. What needs to
be gov't run is stuff like medical/dental/ residential
water/commercial AC power production/ car insurance/ Ferry sytems,
etc. At least that's our idea of.."socilism" You privatize any
of that just mentioned... and prices skyrocket.. and standards drop.
## case in point.... in VE6 land... they had this brilliant idea
they would privatize.. and sell off ALL AC power production. The
idea was that private co's would invest Billions in new power
production. They were gonna chop it up into 8-10 pieces. When
only 4-5 co's showed up... they were surprised... and proceeded
to divvy up the province of alberta into North south east west.
The co's are real happy now. NONE of em compete with each
other... since they have their own turf. None of em are the
slighest bit interested in spending Billions to generate new AC
power. [the provincial gov't there thought with some co spending
billions on new power... rates would...drop]. Instead... there
was no increase in production at all.... rates went up as much as
450 % !!
### In the UK... they did the same thing with their various water
supply's for residential water. Their water rates have gone up
400 % ! They also privatized the construction of new hospital
facilities.... now the consumer is paying through the nose for it.
### cheap electric/water rates means a better economy. You start
paying sky high rates... and the one of 2 things happen.... either
increased production costs get passed onto the consumer... or co XXX
sells up... and moves. In VE6 land... they had foundries that had
been there a long time... and couldn't compete with the province of
manitoba [VE4 land].... due to the huge difference in electrical
rates. The foundries in VE6 land moved to VE4 land.
## If u wanna pay retail + 100%... go for it. Most of us like the
wholesale rate.
later... Jim VE7RF
>
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Bob
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Vmoa tech list home ->
Middleburg Fl (South Jacksonville)
ICQ 13912841
Web Page
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Motorcycles CBMMA #4
1977 XS750D 1J7008405
1997 Vmax12J VMOA #504
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Mike(W5UC) & Kathy(K5MWH)
At 09:06 AM 1/5/2007, you wrote: PLAY NICE and TRY to keep it AMP related.. I think that's what the majority would like to do. I sincerely doubt that those who came here to discuss ham radio care about a one man Hate America campaign. Maybe Cindy Sheehan or Hugo Chavez will take him in. "age & treachery will overcome youth & skill"
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I think you mean "no censorship". Censure refers to a group formally
voting to reprimand something. Censorship is what was happening at
the old group.
Play nice.
Z
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--- In ham_amplifiers@..., KR4DA <kr4da@...> wrote:
There is NO MODARATOR.
I created this group on Yahoo.
That's all your going to get out of me.
As it says PLAY NICE.
If there are jerks here so be it. NO CENSURE of
any kind.
So who wants to be the GOD of this group and control
and censure and moderate????? NOT ME.
PLAY NICE and TRY to keep it AMP related..
Your all big boys your gonna just have to act like it.
pentalab wrote:
--- In ham_amplifiers@...
<mailto:ham_amplifiers%40yahoogroups.com>, "Mike(W5UC) & Kathy(K5MWH)"
<w5uc@> wrote:
Francis, several days ago I attempted to end this discussion by
saying that we will not agree on this. We will not! Who is the
moderator here and why isn't he doing his job? It is time to end
this rant designed to promote socialism.
### What's wrong with Socialism ?? Works here. What needs to
be gov't run is stuff like medical/dental/ residential
water/commercial AC power production/ car insurance/ Ferry sytems,
etc. At least that's our idea of.."socilism" You privatize any
of that just mentioned... and prices skyrocket.. and standards drop.
## case in point.... in VE6 land... they had this brilliant idea
they would privatize.. and sell off ALL AC power production. The
idea was that private co's would invest Billions in new power
production. They were gonna chop it up into 8-10 pieces. When
only 4-5 co's showed up... they were surprised... and proceeded
to divvy up the province of alberta into North south east west.
The co's are real happy now. NONE of em compete with each
other... since they have their own turf. None of em are the
slighest bit interested in spending Billions to generate new AC
power. [the provincial gov't there thought with some co spending
billions on new power... rates would...drop]. Instead... there
was no increase in production at all.... rates went up as much as
450 % !!
### In the UK... they did the same thing with their various water
supply's for residential water. Their water rates have gone up
400 % ! They also privatized the construction of new hospital
facilities.... now the consumer is paying through the nose for it.
### cheap electric/water rates means a better economy. You start
paying sky high rates... and the one of 2 things happen.... either
increased production costs get passed onto the consumer... or co XXX
sells up... and moves. In VE6 land... they had foundries that had
been there a long time... and couldn't compete with the province of
manitoba [VE4 land].... due to the huge difference in electrical
rates. The foundries in VE6 land moved to VE4 land.
## If u wanna pay retail + 100%... go for it. Most of us like the
wholesale rate.
later... Jim VE7RF
--
Bob
Vmoa chat list ->
Vmoa tech list home ->
Middleburg Fl (South Jacksonville)
ICQ 13912841
Web Page
Visit the FDXPG at
Ham Radio Calls: KR4DA FG/KR4DA J79DA HK0/KR4DA
Motorcycles CBMMA #4
1977 XS750D 1J7008405
1997 Vmax12J VMOA #504
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Closure or cloture?
Censor or censure?
At Wally World this morning I went looking for that plastic
stuff that you slide on the edge of your car door to keep it
from chipping paint off of other people's cars in parking lots.
The stuff is clear plastic and has an opening on one edge and
maybe some glue or sticky stuff to keep it on the car door.
It will be used on fan openings in the power supply module
and on the RF deck to finish the 4-1/2" holes, under the grilles.
There was a guy with a WW badge standing at the register in the
Automotive Department. I asked him if he knew where the door edge
protectors might be.
When he answered, "I don't have the faintest idea," I knew it
was a wasted trip. He had a computer terminal right in front of
him, but he probably wasn't authorized to use it.
So then I went on to try and find a sandblaster and powdercoater
for the cabinetry. HA!
$150.00 for sand/bead blasting
$175.00 for the base coat/ steel protective coating
$150.00 for the finish coat
This is for a 23 x 24 x 18 steel box.
In New Jersey I could get this whole thing chrome-plated for $100.00,
and sandblasting is included.
So I figure about twelve cans of textured black Rustoleum spray
at $5.17 per can ought to do it just fine. If I could find a local
source of VHT Wrinkle-Black for that price I would probably go that
route again. The last two chassis projects turned out just fine with
wrinkle finish, and it matches the old Collins stuff just great.
Hal
W4HBM
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WHAT PART OF ENOUGH! DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND? I think that's what the majority would like to do. I sincerely doubt
that those who came here to discuss ham radio care about a one man
Hate America campaign. Maybe Cindy Sheehan or Hugo Chavez will take him
in.
Obviously, 'enough!' does not apply to yourself (aka 'the majority'). Wilbert, ZL2BSJ
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Hal, You are looking for crow's feet. A term used in the aircraft industry?protecting a wire?bundle goes through a bulkhead. It usually comes in 4 foot hunks. There are a number of different thicknesses. Picture a u shaped channel with square notches cut out of the two sides to let it go around the I.D. of a hole. How about McMaster - Carr?
harold b mandel wrote:
Closure or cloture?
Censor or censure?
At Wally World this morning I went looking for that
plastic
stuff that you slide on the edge of your car door to keep it
from chipping paint off of other people's cars in parking lots.
The stuff is clear plastic and has an opening on one edge and
maybe some glue or sticky stuff to keep it on the car door.
It will be used on fan openings in the power supply module
and on the RF deck to finish the 4-1/2" holes, under the grilles.
There was a guy with a WW badge standing at the register in the
Automotive Department. I asked him if he knew where the door edge
protectors might be.
When he answered, "I don't have the faintest idea," I knew it
was a wasted trip. He had a computer terminal right in front of
him, but he probably wasn't authorized to use it.
So then I went on to try and find a sandblaster and powdercoater
for the cabinetry. HA!
$150.00 for sand/bead blasting
$175.00 for the base coat/ steel protective coating
$150.00 for the finish
coat
This is for a 23 x 24 x 18 steel box.
In New Jersey I could get this whole thing chrome-plated for $100.00,
and sandblasting is included.
So I figure about twelve cans of textured black Rustoleum spray
at $5.17 per can ought to do it just fine. If I could find a local
source of VHT Wrinkle-Black for that price I would probably go that
route again. The last two chassis projects turned out just fine with
wrinkle finish, and it matches the old Collins stuff just great.
Hal
W4HBM
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On Jan 5, 2007, at 7:06 AM, KR4DA wrote: There is NO MODARATOR.
I created this group on Yahoo.
That's all your going to get out of me.
As it says PLAY NICE.
If there are jerks here so be it. NO CENSURE of
any kind.
So who wants to be the GOD of this group and control
and censure and moderate????? NOT ME. Topband and AMPS have a Fuehrer-censor.
PLAY NICE and TRY to keep it AMP related..
Your all big boys your gonna just have to act like it.
...
R. L. Measures, AG6K, 805.386.3734 r@..., rlm@..., www.somis.org
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At 09:53 AM 1/5/2007, you wrote:
There are no moderators on here, if you have an issue with it, i suggest
you not open this thread
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WHAT PART OF ENOUGH! DON'T
YOU UNDERSTAND?
At 08:18 AM 1/5/2007, you wrote:
So you think the set up we have
today is good?
"David C. Hallam" <dhallam@...>
wrote:
- Jim,
- ?
- Socialism doesn't work, has not ever
worked, and will never work for the every reasons you have pointed out in
your previous emails.? Anytime you get the government involved in
anything, corruption causes things to go to hell.? Government is the
biggest source of corruption in society.? It surpasses individuals,
businesses, and anything else you can name.? God save us from more
big government.? I'll take big business corruption any day compare
to big government corruption.? We elect people who think they know
what is right for you.? They end up knowing what is right for
them.
- ?
- The US had a famous cowboy philosopher
back in the 1920's by the name of Will Rogers.? He was a Democrat
and probably some what of a socialist, but one of his most famous quotes
was " The people elected Calvin Coolidge president.? He didn't
do much, but that's what the people wanted."? I think that's
what the people in the US want today.? A president and congress that
won't do much. Stop trying to fix things and just leave us
along!!!!!
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- David
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- -----Original Message-----
- From: ham_amplifiers@... [
mailto:ham_amplifiers@...]On Behalf Of pentalab
- Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 4:19 PM
- To: ham_amplifiers@...
- Subject: [ham_amplifiers] Re: Enough!
- --- In
ham_amplifiers@..., "Mike(W5UC) &
Kathy(K5MWH)"
- wrote:
- >
- > Francis, several days ago I attempted to end this discussion by
- > saying that we will not agree on this. We will not! Who is the
- > moderator here and why isn't he doing his job? It is time to end
- > this rant designed to promote socialism.
- ### What's wrong with Socialism ?? Works here. What needs to
- be gov't run is stuff like medical/dental/ residential
- water/commercial AC power production/ car insurance/ Ferry sytems,
- etc. At least that's our idea of.."socilism" You privatize
any
- of that just mentioned... and prices skyrocket.. and standards drop.
- ## case in point.... in VE6 land... they had this brilliant idea
- they would privatize.. and sell off ALL AC power production. The
- idea was that private co's would invest Billions in new power
- production. They were gonna chop it up into 8-10 pieces. When
- only 4-5 co's showed up... they were surprised... and proceeded
- to divvy up the province of alberta into North south east west.
- The co's are real happy now. NONE of em compete with each
- other... since they have their own turf. None of em are the
- slighest bit interested in spending Billions to generate new AC
- power. [the provincial gov't there thought with some co spending
- billions on new power... rates would...drop]. Instead... there
- was no increase in production at all.... rates went up as much as
- 450 % !!
- ### In the UK... they did the same thing with their various water
- supply's for residential water. Their water rates have gone up
- 400 % ! They also privatized the construction of new hospital
- facilities.... now the consumer is paying through the nose for it.
- ### cheap electric/water rates means a better economy. You start
- paying sky high rates... and the one of 2 things happen.... either
- increased production costs get passed onto the consumer... or co XXX
- sells up... and moves. In VE6 land... they had foundries that had
- been there a long time... and couldn't compete with the province of
- manitoba [VE4 land].... due to the huge difference in electrical
- rates. The foundries in VE6 land moved to VE4 land.
- ## If u wanna pay retail + 100%... go for it. Most of us like the
- wholesale rate.
- later... Jim VE7RF
- >
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Steve et al,
Without taking a stand on either side of the argument I will say this...
Bob, KR4DA, started this group to give us a place to have amplifier discussions without senseless censorship due to personal or professional differences. My personal opinion is that we should respect his intentions by staying within the fuzzy bounds of ham amplifiers and not use this as a place to vent our views on other, unrelated, topics.
All of us have an opinion and, thankfully, we do have the right to express them, but I carefully pick and choose whose living room to do it in.
Best regards for a Happy New Year!
Tony W4ZT
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At 09:53 AM 1/5/2007, you wrote:
There are no moderators on here, if you have an issue with it, i suggest you not open this thread
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