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Drake L-7


 

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Anode systems should have series-resistance to limit peak current in the event of a tube arc or failure. That series resistance should always be in the anode lead between the filter capacitors and RF choke. A diode clamp should be installed to protect meters, especially the grid meter since the grid is in the normal path of any internal tube arc.?

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Could you explain to me what this means A diode clamp should be installed

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Fran?ois


 

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No problem Hal!

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73, Evert

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of HaL Mandel via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, 28 January 2025 18:14
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [ham-amplifiers] Drake L-7

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Gentlemen,

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My apology.

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I was thinking you were talking about Grid

Bypass circuits of caps and chokes instead

of Anode Bypass.

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As a compliment, the W8JI program of

analyzing and preparing Anode Chokes

is topnotch in the Land.

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Hal Mandel

W4HBM


 

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Gentlemen,

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My apology.

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I was thinking you were talking about Grid

Bypass circuits of caps and chokes instead

of Anode Bypass.

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As a compliment, the W8JI program of

analyzing and preparing Anode Chokes

is topnotch in the Land.

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Hal Mandel

W4HBM


 

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Dear Everett et al,

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There are those that believe a Pi-Wound, or even

a Solenoid-Wound inductor is the Saving Grace of

QRO amplifiers.

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And there are those who think that monsters are

really hiding in their granddaughters’ closets, and

that hidden, destructive parasitic oscillations

reside, ready to lash out on unsuspecting operator

equipment.

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Both camps are correct. RF energy behaves more like

sub-atomic particles riding waves of phase change

DC energy, excited somehow in more direction

than only one, and possible at the very same time.

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Modeling software is only a test to see if something’s

kosher or not at a readily recognizable set of params,

so what, and why did my amplifier, after hours and

hours of QSY everywhere and outside antenna follies,

decide to go, “BINK!” and leave me with a $5,000

set of ceramojunk? “ Parasitic Oscillations,” the

well-remembered AG6K would say, while his close

friend(s) would say, “Hogwash!,” and both were right?

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(I still have small rolls of Nichrome 30 and Nichrome 60

if anyone needs any.)

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The circuit recommendation to avoid hi-impedance

pathways is achievable by a method to bolster the ampacity.

Using something with a wide bandwidth helps.

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Most Pi-W’s use microscopic wire.? Some Grid Anomalies

may induce a bolt of juice in them tubes, there, of Just

How Many Amperes Wre You Thinkin’?? Bazillions?

You may be right, but how long was that for?

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In that infinitesimal slot your Pi-W’s windings are going

to heat up, maybe in more than one place, and what’s

next? Current Down, Voltage Up: Goombye Grid.

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It might as well be mentioned a nice fat slug of copper

wire in between every G1 tube socket and chassis ground

for as short a distance as possible makes a reliable

addition to the design of all.

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Tetrode rigs, especially Grid-Driven behemoths, need

great bypassing on their tube sockets. Now thems are

serious monsters under the bed.

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Hal Mandel

W4HBM


 

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I was told that the original RF-choke could cause oscillation.

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73, Evert

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Fran?ois via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, 28 January 2025 06:31
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [ham-amplifiers] Drake L-7

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I found the RF-choke I used :

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Thanks

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225 ?H; that's a big value indeed. I thought you wound it yourself on the original mandrel.

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Why did you have to change this ?RF-choke?

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F1AMM

Fran?ois

De la part de Evert Bakker via groups.io
贰苍惫辞测é?: lundi 27 janvier 2025 21:32


 

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Thanks Dave.

Always “good” to hear the issues!

In the L7 the RFC3 was ok (no issues in 15 years)

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73, Evert

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Dave w6de
Sent: Tuesday, 28 January 2025 01:06
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [ham-amplifiers] Drake L-7

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From my own experience in blowing up two of those, is that RFC3 RF-choke purchased from RF-Parts is resonant on 30 meters when used in a 3-tube (8874) Alpha 76A amplifier.? Use in other amplifiers may differ.?

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73,

Dave, w6de

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Evert Bakker via groups.io
Sent: 27 January, 2025 20:32
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [ham-amplifiers] Drake L-7

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I found the RF-choke I used :

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73, Evert

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Fran?ois via groups.io
Sent: Monday, 27 January 2025 07:02
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [ham-amplifiers] Drake L-7

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Hello,

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> Do you have the service manual of this amp?

** No, I don't have the service manual for this amp. If you could share it with me, it would be appreciated.

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> I remember the green capacitor (B) but not (A).

** Your capacitor 'A' went with your old RF choke.

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A= 47 pF

B= 307 pF

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Thanks for the images of your modifications; they can be very useful to me

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F1AMM

Fran?ois

De la part de Evert Bakker
贰苍惫辞测é?: dimanche 26 janvier 2025 20:45


 

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I've just bought 4 from W8JI at CTR Engineering. Installed one in my AL-1500 and one in my home brew 2 x 3-500Z 160 to 10 amp. No problems on any band with those chokes.

73, Alek VK6APK.

On 28/01/2025 8:06 am, Dave w6de wrote:

From my own experience in blowing up two of those, is that RFC3 RF-choke purchased from RF-Parts is resonant on 30 meters when used in a 3-tube (8874) Alpha 76A amplifier.? Use in other amplifiers may differ.?

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73,

Dave, w6de

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Evert Bakker via groups.io
Sent: 27 January, 2025 20:32
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [ham-amplifiers] Drake L-7

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I found the RF-choke I used :

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73, Evert

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Fran?ois via groups.io
Sent: Monday, 27 January 2025 07:02
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [ham-amplifiers] Drake L-7

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Hello,

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> Do you have the service manual of this amp?

** No, I don't have the service manual for this amp. If you could share it with me, it would be appreciated.

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> I remember the green capacitor (B) but not (A).

** Your capacitor 'A' went with your old RF choke.

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A= 47 pF

B= 307 pF

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Thanks for the images of your modifications; they can be very useful to me

--

F1AMM

Fran?ois

De la part de Evert Bakker
贰苍惫辞测é?: dimanche 26 janvier 2025 20:45


 

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I found the RF-choke I used :

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Thanks

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225 ?H; that's a big value indeed. I thought you wound it yourself on the original mandrel.

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Why did you have to change this ?RF-choke?

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F1AMM

Fran?ois

De la part de Evert Bakker via groups.io
贰苍惫辞测é?: lundi 27 janvier 2025 21:32


 

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From my own experience in blowing up two of those, is that RFC3 RF-choke purchased from RF-Parts is resonant on 30 meters when used in a 3-tube (8874) Alpha 76A amplifier.? Use in other amplifiers may differ.?

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73,

Dave, w6de

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Evert Bakker via groups.io
Sent: 27 January, 2025 20:32
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [ham-amplifiers] Drake L-7

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I found the RF-choke I used :

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73, Evert

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Fran?ois via groups.io
Sent: Monday, 27 January 2025 07:02
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [ham-amplifiers] Drake L-7

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Hello,

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> Do you have the service manual of this amp?

** No, I don't have the service manual for this amp. If you could share it with me, it would be appreciated.

?

> I remember the green capacitor (B) but not (A).

** Your capacitor 'A' went with your old RF choke.

?

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A= 47 pF

B= 307 pF

?

Thanks for the images of your modifications; they can be very useful to me

--

F1AMM

Fran?ois

De la part de Evert Bakker
贰苍惫辞测é?: dimanche 26 janvier 2025 20:45


 

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I found the RF-choke I used :

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73, Evert

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Fran?ois via groups.io
Sent: Monday, 27 January 2025 07:02
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [ham-amplifiers] Drake L-7

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Hello,

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> Do you have the service manual of this amp?

** No, I don't have the service manual for this amp. If you could share it with me, it would be appreciated.

?

> I remember the green capacitor (B) but not (A).

** Your capacitor 'A' went with your old RF choke.

?

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A= 47 pF

B= 307 pF

?

Thanks for the images of your modifications; they can be very useful to me

--

F1AMM

Fran?ois

De la part de Evert Bakker
贰苍惫辞测é?: dimanche 26 janvier 2025 20:45


 

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Francois,

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> I remember the green capacitor (B) but not (A).

** Your capacitor 'A' went with your old RF choke.

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Yes, you are correct.

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73, Evert

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Fran?ois via groups.io
Sent: Monday, 27 January 2025 07:02
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [ham-amplifiers] Drake L-7

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Hello,

?

> Do you have the service manual of this amp?

** No, I don't have the service manual for this amp. If you could share it with me, it would be appreciated.

?

> I remember the green capacitor (B) but not (A).

** Your capacitor 'A' went with your old RF choke.

?

?

A= 47 pF

B= 307 pF

?

Thanks for the images of your modifications; they can be very useful to me

--

F1AMM

Fran?ois

De la part de Evert Bakker
贰苍惫辞测é?: dimanche 26 janvier 2025 20:45


 

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Hello,

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> Do you have the service manual of this amp?

** No, I don't have the service manual for this amp. If you could share it with me, it would be appreciated.

?

> I remember the green capacitor (B) but not (A).

** Your capacitor 'A' went with your old RF choke.

?

?

A= 47 pF

B= 307 pF

?

Thanks for the images of your modifications; they can be very useful to me

--

F1AMM

Fran?ois

De la part de Evert Bakker
贰苍惫辞测é?: dimanche 26 janvier 2025 20:45


 

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Fran?ois, here are the exact capacitors I used to replace C41 and C42 in my L7:

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** Thank you these items are very valuable to me, even though I can't source them directly from RF Parts Company. Now I see exactly what these capacitors are ?doorknob type

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F1AMM

Fran?ois

De la part de Paul K6PO
贰苍惫辞测é?: lundi 27 janvier 2025 05:53


 

On Sat, Jan 25, 2025 at 09:07 PM, Fran?ois wrote:
Could you give me, precisely, the replacement capacitors that should be supplied. A url would be welcome.
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Fran?ois, here are the exact capacitors I used to replace C41 and C42 in my L7:
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I don't know if RF Parts will ship these internationally however.?
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73, Paul K6PO


 

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Hi Francois,

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I did not document my changes and sold the amp a few years ago.

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I remember the green capacitor (B) but not (A). That could easily be a memory leakage on my side but I couldn’t find it on the pictures before the restauration. .

I don’t know the values of the (B) capacitor but replaced it with doorknob type (red).

The red wire to the capacitor is spark-plug wire.

On the attached picture you can see the new RF-choke was placed.

When I looked at the photo’s I made, I saw I did change the indicator assembly as well.

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Do you have the service manual of this amp?

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73, Evert

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Fran?ois via groups.io
Sent: Sunday, 26 January 2025 06:08
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [ham-amplifiers] Drake L-7

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> The only thing I changed was the RF-choke and a replacement for the green pcb like 160m capacitor (by door knob types).

> I only opened it once a year to remove the just. That was all.

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Hello

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I am weak in technology (I am 75 years old). It seems to me that you are pointing out the two curious plate capacitors A = C41 (47 pF) and B = C42 (307 pF).

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Could you give me, precisely, the replacement capacitors that should be supplied. A url would be welcome.

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F1AMM

Fran?ois

De la part de Evert Bakker
贰苍惫辞测é?: samedi 25 janvier 2025 19:38


 

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> The only thing I changed was the RF-choke and a replacement for the green pcb like 160m capacitor (by door knob types).

> I only opened it once a year to remove the just. That was all.

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Hello

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I am weak in technology (I am 75 years old). It seems to me that you are pointing out the two curious plate capacitors A = C41 (47 pF) and B = C42 (307 pF).

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Could you give me, precisely, the replacement capacitors that should be supplied. A url would be welcome.

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--

F1AMM

Fran?ois

De la part de Evert Bakker
贰苍惫辞测é?: samedi 25 janvier 2025 19:38


 

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> Why do you want to see these tubes all the time?

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The reason is in this message

/g/ham-amplifiers/message/40898

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F1AMM

Fran?ois

De la part de Evert Bakker via groups.io
贰苍惫辞测é?: samedi 25 janvier 2025 19:38


 

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> It seems your lid or top sheet metal has been changed. Mine has holes and I can see the tubes.

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I recently bought this L 7 (about $1000) from an OM who used it very little. It has the serial number 672.

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On this device, the air is sucked from the bottom of the case by a kind of scoop. It is a propeller fan that extracts the air at the top. The power supply box is marked L7PS

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The PA cover seems original; it is the same color as the other panels (yellow anodized aluminum)

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F1AMM

Fran?ois

De la part de mike repinski via groups.io
贰苍惫辞测é?: samedi 25 janvier 2025 19:09


 

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Why do you want to see these tubes all the time?

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It is the most reliable amp I’ve had.

You can push this amp to all its limits and beyond, it just won’t die.

Even when it starts to stink like burning socks.

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I used 2x 3-500ZG, for hours and hours, daily, for 15 years.

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The only thing I changed was the RF-choke and a replacement for the green pcb like 160m capacitor (by door knob types).

I only opened it once a year to remove the just. That was all.

Use it, push it, don’t worry about the colour of the tubes. Just stay within the current limits and you will be fine.

(make sure the ventilation is running . ?)

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Great amp.

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73, Evert

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Fran?ois via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, 25 January 2025 17:30
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [ham-amplifiers] Drake L-7

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The top sheet metal is a solid sheet metal. You can see, very badly, through the fan.

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Removing the top panel: ok. To do a short test, it is a solution but in operation it is not reasonable, if only because it strongly modifies the path of the ventilation (airing). Without the cover, the air no longer comes from above by licking the filament seals and Eimac recommends.

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Maybe some have cut a small window blocked by a sieve and a plexiglass plate

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Eimac Technical data

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F1AMM

Fran?ois


 

It seems your lid or top sheet metal has been changed. Mine has holes and I can see the tubes.

On Saturday, January 25, 2025 at 11:30:14 AM EST, Fran?ois via groups.io <18471@...> wrote:


The top sheet metal is a solid sheet metal. You can see, very badly, through the fan.

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Removing the top panel: ok. To do a short test, it is a solution but in operation it is not reasonable, if only because it strongly modifies the path of the ventilation (airing). Without the cover, the air no longer comes from above by licking the filament seals and Eimac recommends.

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Maybe some have cut a small window blocked by a sieve and a plexiglass plate

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Eimac Technical data

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F1AMM

Fran?ois