开云体育

ctrl + shift + ? for shortcuts
© 2025 开云体育

Re: Commander HF-2500

 

Hi Alek, I’ve seen some of the older units and worked on them. ?The real old ones had no grid trip circuit and so I made up a circuit board ?with a trip circuit and implement it on the old units. The front panel fairly easily drops down and you have easy access to the meter board. ?I ditch those crazy fuse type lights and I put an LED strip across the top of the two meters. ?Works great,never have??to deal with the fuse bulbs again. ?Very bright and nice too!! ?Usually the meter board has a grid shunt resistor right on it. ?As I recall there are 8 wires connecting to the board l, some colors are doubled up. ?If you disconnected the wires and have to re-identify ??them, you may have to ring them out back to the control board. ?Send a photo of your meter board to me. ?BTW….I now have a replacement power supply board for those amps. ?Lou




On Sunday, January 26, 2025, 9:45 PM, Alek Petkovic via groups.io <vk6apk@...> wrote:

This is a real long shot.

I have an old Commander HF-2500 which I love very much. It is Serial
Number 186 and it conforms with the printed manual and schematic of June
1990.

However, there is no diagram or separate drawing of the Meter Circuit
Detail, as published in the later versions of the manual that one finds
online. For instance the circuit published 6/16/95.

The 1990 Meter Circuit Board does not conform to the later published
diagram. Therefore, I am hoping that someone may have been here before
me and has the the information that I'm seeking. That is, I'm looking
for the diagram of the meter board and the wire colour code and
description of the 12 connection points on the board. In particular,
points 1 to 8 which relate to grid meter and plate/HV metering and the
selector switch.

I The Meter board is hard to get to, so I cut mine out to install meter
dial LEDs and I extended the wires, so that it could be mre easily
removed and serviced. I would dearly like to compare my board to a
drawing of the correct era.

Any help appreciated.

73 and thanks, Alek VK6APK.







Re: Drake L-7

 

开云体育

Hello,

?

> Do you have the service manual of this amp?

** No, I don't have the service manual for this amp. If you could share it with me, it would be appreciated.

?

> I remember the green capacitor (B) but not (A).

** Your capacitor 'A' went with your old RF choke.

?

?

A= 47 pF

B= 307 pF

?

Thanks for the images of your modifications; they can be very useful to me

--

F1AMM

Fran?ois

De la part de Evert Bakker
贰苍惫辞测é?: dimanche 26 janvier 2025 20:45


Re: Drake L-7

 

开云体育

Fran?ois, here are the exact capacitors I used to replace C41 and C42 in my L7:

?

** Thank you these items are very valuable to me, even though I can't source them directly from RF Parts Company. Now I see exactly what these capacitors are ?doorknob type

--

F1AMM

Fran?ois

De la part de Paul K6PO
贰苍惫辞测é?: lundi 27 janvier 2025 05:53


Re: Drake L-7

 

On Sat, Jan 25, 2025 at 09:07 PM, Fran?ois wrote:
Could you give me, precisely, the replacement capacitors that should be supplied. A url would be welcome.
?
Fran?ois, here are the exact capacitors I used to replace C41 and C42 in my L7:
?
?
I don't know if RF Parts will ship these internationally however.?
?
--
73, Paul K6PO


Commander HF-2500

 

This is a real long shot.

I have an old Commander HF-2500 which I love very much. It is Serial Number 186 and it conforms with the printed manual and schematic of June 1990.

However, there is no diagram or separate drawing of the Meter Circuit Detail, as published in the later versions of the manual that one finds online. For instance the circuit published 6/16/95.

The 1990 Meter Circuit Board does not conform to the later published diagram. Therefore, I am hoping that someone may have been here before me and has the the information that I'm seeking. That is, I'm looking for the diagram of the meter board and the wire colour code and description of the 12 connection points on the board. In particular, points 1 to 8 which relate to grid meter and plate/HV metering and the selector switch.

I The Meter board is hard to get to, so I cut mine out to install meter dial LEDs and I extended the wires, so that it could be mre easily removed and serviced. I would dearly like to compare my board to a drawing of the correct era.

Any help appreciated.

73 and thanks, Alek VK6APK.


Re: Drake L-7

 

开云体育

Hi Francois,

?

I did not document my changes and sold the amp a few years ago.

?

I remember the green capacitor (B) but not (A). That could easily be a memory leakage on my side but I couldn’t find it on the pictures before the restauration. .

I don’t know the values of the (B) capacitor but replaced it with doorknob type (red).

The red wire to the capacitor is spark-plug wire.

On the attached picture you can see the new RF-choke was placed.

When I looked at the photo’s I made, I saw I did change the indicator assembly as well.

?

Do you have the service manual of this amp?

?

73, Evert

?

/ /

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Fran?ois via groups.io
Sent: Sunday, 26 January 2025 06:08
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [ham-amplifiers] Drake L-7

?

> The only thing I changed was the RF-choke and a replacement for the green pcb like 160m capacitor (by door knob types).

> I only opened it once a year to remove the just. That was all.

?

Hello

?

I am weak in technology (I am 75 years old). It seems to me that you are pointing out the two curious plate capacitors A = C41 (47 pF) and B = C42 (307 pF).

?

?

Could you give me, precisely, the replacement capacitors that should be supplied. A url would be welcome.

?

--

F1AMM

Fran?ois

De la part de Evert Bakker
贰苍惫辞测é?: samedi 25 janvier 2025 19:38


Re: Drake L-7

 

开云体育

> The only thing I changed was the RF-choke and a replacement for the green pcb like 160m capacitor (by door knob types).

> I only opened it once a year to remove the just. That was all.

?

Hello

?

I am weak in technology (I am 75 years old). It seems to me that you are pointing out the two curious plate capacitors A = C41 (47 pF) and B = C42 (307 pF).

?

?

Could you give me, precisely, the replacement capacitors that should be supplied. A url would be welcome.

?

--

F1AMM

Fran?ois

De la part de Evert Bakker
贰苍惫辞测é?: samedi 25 janvier 2025 19:38


Re: Drake L-7

 

开云体育

> Why do you want to see these tubes all the time?

?

The reason is in this message

/g/ham-amplifiers/message/40898

--

F1AMM

Fran?ois

De la part de Evert Bakker via groups.io
贰苍惫辞测é?: samedi 25 janvier 2025 19:38


Re: Drake L-7

 

开云体育

> It seems your lid or top sheet metal has been changed. Mine has holes and I can see the tubes.

?

I recently bought this L 7 (about $1000) from an OM who used it very little. It has the serial number 672.

?

On this device, the air is sucked from the bottom of the case by a kind of scoop. It is a propeller fan that extracts the air at the top. The power supply box is marked L7PS

?

The PA cover seems original; it is the same color as the other panels (yellow anodized aluminum)

--

F1AMM

Fran?ois

De la part de mike repinski via groups.io
贰苍惫辞测é?: samedi 25 janvier 2025 19:09


Re: Drake L-7

 

开云体育

Why do you want to see these tubes all the time?

?

It is the most reliable amp I’ve had.

You can push this amp to all its limits and beyond, it just won’t die.

Even when it starts to stink like burning socks.

?

I used 2x 3-500ZG, for hours and hours, daily, for 15 years.

?

The only thing I changed was the RF-choke and a replacement for the green pcb like 160m capacitor (by door knob types).

I only opened it once a year to remove the just. That was all.

Use it, push it, don’t worry about the colour of the tubes. Just stay within the current limits and you will be fine.

(make sure the ventilation is running . ?)

?

Great amp.

?

73, Evert

?

/ /

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Fran?ois via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, 25 January 2025 17:30
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [ham-amplifiers] Drake L-7

?

The top sheet metal is a solid sheet metal. You can see, very badly, through the fan.

?

Removing the top panel: ok. To do a short test, it is a solution but in operation it is not reasonable, if only because it strongly modifies the path of the ventilation (airing). Without the cover, the air no longer comes from above by licking the filament seals and Eimac recommends.

?

Maybe some have cut a small window blocked by a sieve and a plexiglass plate

?

Eimac Technical data

?

?

--

F1AMM

Fran?ois


Re: Drake L-7

 

It seems your lid or top sheet metal has been changed. Mine has holes and I can see the tubes.

On Saturday, January 25, 2025 at 11:30:14 AM EST, Fran?ois via groups.io <18471@...> wrote:


The top sheet metal is a solid sheet metal. You can see, very badly, through the fan.

?

Removing the top panel: ok. To do a short test, it is a solution but in operation it is not reasonable, if only because it strongly modifies the path of the ventilation (airing). Without the cover, the air no longer comes from above by licking the filament seals and Eimac recommends.

?

Maybe some have cut a small window blocked by a sieve and a plexiglass plate

?

Eimac Technical data

?

?

--

F1AMM

Fran?ois


Re: Drake L-7

 

开云体育

The top sheet metal is a solid sheet metal. You can see, very badly, through the fan.

?

Removing the top panel: ok. To do a short test, it is a solution but in operation it is not reasonable, if only because it strongly modifies the path of the ventilation (airing). Without the cover, the air no longer comes from above by licking the filament seals and Eimac recommends.

?

Maybe some have cut a small window blocked by a sieve and a plexiglass plate

?

Eimac Technical data

?

?

--

F1AMM

Fran?ois


Re: Drake L-7

 

开云体育

Take the top-cover off and use something to push the rod down so the HV will pass through.

As long as you know what you are doing … (I shorted that switch)

?

BUT TAKE CARE.

There is no room for mistakes!

(High voltage will kill you)

?

73, Evert

?

/ /

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Fran?ois via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, 25 January 2025 16:05
To: [email protected]
Subject: [ham-amplifiers] Drake L-7

?

Hello

?

I am in the process of putting a Drake L 7 amplifier back into operation.

?

I was advised on this forum to bring the anodes of the 3-500Z to red to maintain the quality of the vacuum. After removing the screens to check the equipment and the filaments, I realize that once the screens are put back, there is no way to observe the anodes of the 3-500Z; everything is shielded (no window).

?

How do you observe these anodes?

--

F1AMM

Fran?ois


Re: Drake L-7

 

You should be able to see them thru the top of the amp turning red.

On Saturday, January 25, 2025 at 10:05:22 AM EST, Fran?ois via groups.io <18471@...> wrote:


Hello

?

I am in the process of putting a Drake L 7 amplifier back into operation.

?

I was advised on this forum to bring the anodes of the 3-500Z to red to maintain the quality of the vacuum. After removing the screens to check the equipment and the filaments, I realize that once the screens are put back, there is no way to observe the anodes of the 3-500Z; everything is shielded (no window).

?

How do you observe these anodes?

--

F1AMM

Fran?ois


Drake L-7

 

开云体育

Hello

?

I am in the process of putting a Drake L 7 amplifier back into operation.

?

I was advised on this forum to bring the anodes of the 3-500Z to red to maintain the quality of the vacuum. After removing the screens to check the equipment and the filaments, I realize that once the screens are put back, there is no way to observe the anodes of the 3-500Z; everything is shielded (no window).

?

How do you observe these anodes?

--

F1AMM

Fran?ois


Re: Two tones test generator

 

开云体育

In the same way that there are synthetic white noise generators, from a pseudo-random code, are there synthetic pink noise generators?

?

This pink noise modulating in SSB seems to me to be a very good idea.

--

F1AMM

Fran?ois

De la part de Jim VE7RF
贰苍惫辞测é?: vendredi 24 janvier 2025 19:10


Re: Two tones test generator

 

On Mon, Jan 20, 2025 at 03:51 PM, Kim Elmore wrote:
>Another way to check for linearity is to use pink noise as an input: all frequencies in the pass band simultaneously. A perfectly linear system would reproduce exactly the input spectrum as the output. The difference can >be used to define the lack of linearity and its nature.?
?
>Kim N5OP

Excellent idea...... and I had forgotten all? about it.? ?My Behringer DEQ-2496? ( 24 bit - 96 khz)? mastering processor has a pink noise generator in it.? ?I checked my old notes, and when fed into the XCVR ( via a ton of rack audio gear, used for ESSB)? it's easy to achieve normal, max PEP output out of the xcvr and also the linear amp.? ? On the DC input side, the DC plate current with pink? was exactly 1/2 of a dead CXR.? ?IE:? 50% duty cycle....same as 39 wpm dots.?

On a pep meter, it wavered? just a tiny bit.? ?I experimented and could easily tune up the linear with it.? ? It sounds cool over the air too.? Folks who are unaware, wonder what the hell they are listening too.? I would flip to the opposite sideband, tune up, the swap sidebands again.

Pink noise has equal level per octave.? ?White noise increases? 3 db for each octave.? ?Each octave doubles in upper freq.? ?IE: 100hz - 200 - 400 - 800 - 1600 - 3200? -? 6400 hz.? ?As you go up in octaves, the BW keeps doubling.? And with double the BW, the noise doubles, hence the 3 db increase per octave with white noise.?

To generate pink noise, they start with? white noise..... then run it through a 3 db per octave roll off filter...... dead simple.? ?The trick is, at what freq does the roll off start at ?? ?To do it correctly, it should be done at a very low freq, like 50 hz.?

IMO,? pink noise would be better vs a 2 tone test, when conducting IMD tests.? ?The pink noise uses all the passband? freqs.? On a SA, it looks like a flat line across the passband, then drops off at both ends.?
Only drawback is ( same as a 2 tone)? is everything is in a steady state.? ?But for a quick definitive IMD test,? it works superb.?
?


Re: AL-82 Date of Manufacture

 

I have a 2014 AL-82 and two of the components inside have manufacture dates on them. One was the power supply and I don't remember the other might have been the blower.?


On Wed, Jan 22, 2025, 9:17?AM Garry - K4OR via <g.drummond=[email protected]> wrote:
Hello,
?
Can the vintage or date of manufacture be determined from the serial number on an Ameritron AL-82?
?
Thanks and 73,
Garry - K4OR
?


AL-82 Date of Manufacture

 

Hello,
?
Can the vintage or date of manufacture be determined from the serial number on an Ameritron AL-82?
?
Thanks and 73,
Garry - K4OR
?


?Southeastern VHF Society 2025 Conference Announcement & Call For Papers #2MAmplifier

 

?
Southeastern VHF Society 2025 Conference?Announcement &?Call For Papers

Quality Inn, 3095 Wilma Rudolph Blvd, Clarksville, TN 37040
April 4th and 5th, 2025

Papers and presentations are solicited on both the technical and operational?aspects of VHF, UHF and Microwave weak signal amateur radio. Somesuggested areas of interest are:
? Transmitters, Receivers, Transverters
? RF Power Amplifiers, RF Low Noise Preamplifiers
? Antennas
? Construction Projects
? Test Equipment and Station Accessories
? Station Design and Construction
? Contesting, Roving, DX-peditions
? EME, Propagation (Sporadic E, Meteor Scatter, Troposphere Ducting, etc.)
? Digital Modes, Digital Signal Processing (DSP), Software Defined Radio
??(SDR) Amateur Satellites, Amateur Television
In general papers and presentations on non-weak signal related topics such?as FM repeaters and?packet will not be accepted but exceptions may be made?if the topic is related to weak signal. For example, a paper or presentation on?the use of FM simplex in contests or on the use of APRS to track rovers?during contests would be considered.
?
Formats:
All submissions for?publication in the proceedings should be in Microsoft Word (.doc or?.docx) formats. Submissions for presentation at the conference?should be in Microsoft PowerPoint (.ppt or .pptx) format and?delivered at the conference on a USB memory stick. Please?understand that your PowerPoint Slide presentation will not be?accepted to be published in the proceedings; only meaningful text?will be published in the proceedings, not slides that need?description for understanding.
Paper: Size should be?81?2 x 11-inches.
Margins: Top and sides should be 0.75 inches; bottom must be 1?inch.
Font: You may choose your font, however, try and use standard?fonts. The font should be clean and easy to read?12 pt.
Layout: Either a one or two-column format.
Page numbers: Do not include page numbers.
Headers/Footers: Do not include Headers and/or Footers.
Drawings: Drawings should be embedded in the files. Place them?where you’d like them to appear.
Photos: Color or black-and-white digital images if utilized should be?embedded in text files. Place them where you’d like them to appear.
Printing: We print what we receive. We do not copy edit (but will?correct something if we notice it – or if you notice it and let us know).

We try to make all papers somewhat uniform, but we do not rework?each article. Page numbers are added as we prepare the files for our
printer.?
The deadline for the submission of papers and presentations?is February 15, 2025.?
Please indicate when you submit your paper?or presentation if you plan to attend the conference and present?your paper in person or if you are submitting solely for publication.
Papers and presentations are being handled by Mike Stipick,?KC4RI,?and should be sent to:?KCRI@ATT.net. Mike may be contacted at the
same email address if you have any questions.