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Dovetail bar for FTX V2 CLASSIC


Alan Powell
 

Greetings Howard! ? I just got a C11 HD and I am having a heck of a time finding a dovetail bar for the C11 so I can use it with my FTX V2 Classic...The bar needs to be just over 2" wide in order for the mounting screws to reach the dovetail...Any ideas that might help?
? ?Thanks for your time....Cheers, ?Alan Powell


 

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Alan,

I think this Dovetail bar made by ADM will fit your needs. ?



Ron
HH-C11- Half Hitch Series Dovetail Bar for C11 SCT Telescope. Fits all Celestron 11" OTA's including CPC and HD models.
www.admaccessories.com



From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Alan Powell <sfbluenote@...>
Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2021 6:22 PM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: [halfhitchtelescope] Dovetail bar for FTX V2 CLASSIC
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Greetings Howard! ? I just got a C11 HD and I am having a heck of a time finding a dovetail bar for the C11 so I can use it with my FTX V2 Classic...The bar needs to be just over 2" wide in order for the mounting screws to reach the dovetail...Any ideas that might help?
? ?Thanks for your time....Cheers, ?Alan Powell
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Alan Powell
 

Hi There.... Thanks for your help...I thought that was the answer too!? But it turns out that bar is the same width as a vixen type and is not wide enough. I just called ADM and thats all they have so I might have a problem here..


On Thu, Aug 12, 2021 at 7:24 PM <eklaab@...> wrote:
Alan,

I think this Dovetail bar made by ADM will fit your needs. ?



Ron
HH-C11- Half Hitch Series Dovetail Bar for C11 SCT Telescope. Fits all Celestron 11" OTA's including CPC and HD models.



From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Alan Powell <sfbluenote@...>
Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2021 6:22 PM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: [halfhitchtelescope] Dovetail bar for FTX V2 CLASSIC
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Greetings Howard! ? I just got a C11 HD and I am having a heck of a time finding a dovetail bar for the C11 so I can use it with my FTX V2 Classic...The bar needs to be just over 2" wide in order for the mounting screws to reach the dovetail...Any ideas that might help?
? ?Thanks for your time....Cheers, ?Alan Powell
_._,_?


 

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Hi Alan

To my knowledge ADM is the only company makes dovetail bars for FTX now. If it doesn’t work you may have to consider custom made bars. I have a friend in China who made standard FTX dovetail bars for me before and its quality is same as those sold by Charles. You will need to provide exact measurements though. Maybe you can also find some people to make it for you in the US.

Thanks
Howard

On Aug 13, 2021, at 22:42, Alan Powell <sfbluenote@...> wrote:

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Hi There.... Thanks for your help...I thought that was the answer too!? But it turns out that bar is the same width as a vixen type and is not wide enough. I just called ADM and thats all they have so I might have a problem here..

On Thu, Aug 12, 2021 at 7:24 PM <eklaab@...> wrote:
Alan,

I think this Dovetail bar made by ADM will fit your needs. ?



Ron
HH-C11- Half Hitch Series Dovetail Bar for C11 SCT Telescope. Fits all Celestron 11" OTA's including CPC and HD models.



From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Alan Powell <sfbluenote@...>
Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2021 6:22 PM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: [halfhitchtelescope] Dovetail bar for FTX V2 CLASSIC
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Greetings Howard! ? I just got a C11 HD and I am having a heck of a time finding a dovetail bar for the C11 so I can use it with my FTX V2 Classic...The bar needs to be just over 2" wide in order for the mounting screws to reach the dovetail...Any ideas that might help?
? ?Thanks for your time....Cheers, ?Alan Powell
_._,_?


Alan Powell
 

Thanks Howard...? I think I may have to do as you suggest and either get one made or try and find a workaround. I thought?about removing the 5 retaining screws and replacing them with longer ones to enable them to reach the thinner bar but that might put too much pressure on the screws themselves.......Ongoing..I will let you know what I come up with for future reference in case any other members have the same problem ?Regards, ? Alan


On Fri, Aug 13, 2021 at 7:58 AM Howard Gao <gaozhenyu@...> wrote:
Hi Alan

To my knowledge ADM is the only company makes dovetail bars for FTX now. If it doesn’t work you may have to consider custom made bars. I have a friend in China who made standard FTX dovetail bars for me before and its quality is same as those sold by Charles. You will need to provide exact measurements though. Maybe you can also find some people to make it for you in the US.

Thanks
Howard

On Aug 13, 2021, at 22:42, Alan Powell <sfbluenote@...> wrote:

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Hi There.... Thanks for your help...I thought that was the answer too!? But it turns out that bar is the same width as a vixen type and is not wide enough. I just called ADM and thats all they have so I might have a problem here..

On Thu, Aug 12, 2021 at 7:24 PM <eklaab@...> wrote:
Alan,

I think this Dovetail bar made by ADM will fit your needs. ?



Ron
HH-C11- Half Hitch Series Dovetail Bar for C11 SCT Telescope. Fits all Celestron 11" OTA's including CPC and HD models.



From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Alan Powell <sfbluenote@...>
Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2021 6:22 PM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: [halfhitchtelescope] Dovetail bar for FTX V2 CLASSIC
?
Greetings Howard! ? I just got a C11 HD and I am having a heck of a time finding a dovetail bar for the C11 so I can use it with my FTX V2 Classic...The bar needs to be just over 2" wide in order for the mounting screws to reach the dovetail...Any ideas that might help?
? ?Thanks for your time....Cheers, ?Alan Powell
_._,_?


 

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I'm a bit confused.? I thought the ADM HH dovetails were made specifically to fit on the Half Hitch mounts.? I'm using a ADM dovetail bar (the dual HH)? on my Nova Hitch mount.

Ron
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Alan Powell
 



On Fri, Aug 13, 2021 at 9:01 AM <eklaab@...> wrote:
I'm a bit confused.? I thought the ADM HH dovetails were made specifically to fit on the Half Hitch mounts.? I'm using a ADM dovetail bar (the dual HH)? on my Nova Hitch mount.

Ron
? Hi Ron…It is confusing I agree. I think Charles may have altered the saddle on the FTX V2. He increased the no. retaining screws fro 3 to 5 and increased the width of the dovetail bar to just over 2”. The Adm dovetail is 1 3/4” and is to narrow for the screws to reach even when they are screwed down to their max length. Looks like I might have to have a bar custom made.?
Alan


 

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Alan,

OK, I figured out your issue. You have the short version of the 5 clamping screws. Charles had them available in two different lengths. I vaguely recalled when I ordered by FTX V2, I specified the longer screws.

The shorter screws do work with the Half Hitch's Nova plate.? ?The longer screws work with the ADM HH dovetail bars and Half Hitch's Nova plate.?

Attached is a photo of the ADM dual HH in the saddle of my FTX V2 with the long screws, and they do reach.

I think it would be easier for you to find longer replacement of your 5 clamping screws.?

Ron




From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Alan Powell <sfbluenote@...>
Sent: Friday, August 13, 2021 10:08 AM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [halfhitchtelescope] Dovetail bar for FTX V2 CLASSIC
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On Fri, Aug 13, 2021 at 9:01 AM <eklaab@...> wrote:
I'm a bit confused.? I thought the ADM HH dovetails were made specifically to fit on the Half Hitch mounts.? I'm using a ADM dovetail bar (the dual HH)? on my Nova Hitch mount.

Ron
? Hi Ron…It is confusing I agree. I think Charles may have altered the saddle on the FTX V2. He increased the no. retaining screws fro 3 to 5 and increased the width of the dovetail bar to just over 2”. The Adm dovetail is 1 3/4” and is to narrow for the screws to reach even when they are screwed down to their max length. Looks like I might have to have a bar custom made.?
Alan


Alan Powell
 

Ron…..This is fantastic!? I thought that if I used longer screws it might become possible for them to crack or break from the extra torque or load they would be subjected to, but obviously this is not the case.? This will save me a bunch of money! Having an 18” dovetail bar custom made would have been $$. ? Many thanks!
I owe you a drink! ? ? Best, ? Alan

On Fri, Aug 13, 2021 at 12:19 PM <eklaab@...> wrote:
Alan,

OK, I figured out your issue. You have the short version of the 5 clamping screws. Charles had them available in two different lengths. I vaguely recalled when I ordered by FTX V2, I specified the longer screws.

The shorter screws do work with the Half Hitch's Nova plate.? ?The longer screws work with the ADM HH dovetail bars and Half Hitch's Nova plate.?

Attached is a photo of the ADM dual HH in the saddle of my FTX V2 with the long screws, and they do reach.

I think it would be easier for you to find longer replacement of your 5 clamping screws.?

Ron




From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Alan Powell <sfbluenote@...>
Sent: Friday, August 13, 2021 10:08 AM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [halfhitchtelescope] Dovetail bar for FTX V2 CLASSIC
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On Fri, Aug 13, 2021 at 9:01 AM <eklaab@...> wrote:
I'm a bit confused.? I thought the ADM HH dovetails were made specifically to fit on the Half Hitch mounts.? I'm using a ADM dovetail bar (the dual HH)? on my Nova Hitch mount.

Ron
? Hi Ron…It is confusing I agree. I think Charles may have altered the saddle on the FTX V2. He increased the no. retaining screws fro 3 to 5 and increased the width of the dovetail bar to just over 2”. The Adm dovetail is 1 3/4” and is to narrow for the screws to reach even when they are screwed down to their max length. Looks like I might have to have a bar custom made.?
Alan


 

The width of the ADM-machined dovetail bar for?Half Hitch mounts?is 53mm - just a bit over 2”. I have?both the FTX v.1 and v.2 saddles and it fits in both. ?I’d call Anthony at ADM as he is very helpful.?

Best regards
Rich




On Friday, August 13, 2021, 12:08 PM, Alan Powell <sfbluenote@...> wrote:



On Fri, Aug 13, 2021 at 9:01 AM <eklaab@...> wrote:
I'm a bit confused.? I thought the ADM HH dovetails were made specifically to fit on the Half Hitch mounts.? I'm using a ADM dovetail bar (the dual HH)? on my Nova Hitch mount.

Ron
? Hi Ron…It is confusing I agree. I think Charles may have altered the saddle on the FTX V2. He increased the no. retaining screws fro 3 to 5 and increased the width of the dovetail bar to just over 2”. The Adm dovetail is 1 3/4” and is to narrow for the screws to reach even when they are screwed down to their max length. Looks like I might have to have a bar custom made.?
Alan


 

Alan
I?just purchased an ADM adapter saddle for my FTX and it works fine. Width of the dovetail bar from ADM is identical to the original equipment from Half Hitch. The Vixen dovetail bar is about 44 mm wide and the Half?Hitch bar is about 53 mm.?

You are correct that a Vixen bar will not work in the native FTX, though I recall some discussion back in the old Half Hitch thread about changing the machine screw lengths.?

Rich.?




On Friday, August 13, 2021, 11:01 AM, eklaab@... wrote:

I'm a bit confused.? I thought the ADM HH dovetails were made specifically to fit on the Half Hitch mounts.? I'm using a ADM dovetail bar (the dual HH)? on my Nova Hitch mount.

Ron
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Alan Powell
 

Thanks for the info Rich.. I just ordered the ADM Dovetail for my FTX V2..Clear (and Smokeless) Skies!


On Fri, Aug 13, 2021 at 5:15 PM Rich Moen via <Rsmoen=[email protected]> wrote:
Alan
I?just purchased an ADM adapter saddle for my FTX and it works fine. Width of the dovetail bar from ADM is identical to the original equipment from Half Hitch. The Vixen dovetail bar is about 44 mm wide and the Half?Hitch bar is about 53 mm.?

You are correct that a Vixen bar will not work in the native FTX, though I recall some discussion back in the old Half Hitch thread about changing the machine screw lengths.?

Rich.?




On Friday, August 13, 2021, 11:01 AM, eklaab@... wrote:

I'm a bit confused.? I thought the ADM HH dovetails were made specifically to fit on the Half Hitch mounts.? I'm using a ADM dovetail bar (the dual HH)? on my Nova Hitch mount.

Ron
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