Hercules-390 & VM/370

Re: DIRECTMAP issue

marXtevens@... (Mark A. Stevens) — Thu, 17 Apr 2025 06:51:35 -0700

On Tue, May 21, 2024 at 02:08 AM, Bertram Moshier wrote:

When I run DISKMAP again for the USER DIRECT FILE (adding only one new mini-disk (3380 001 for 121), I'm getting the following error:

01:56:39 PASCAL 192 3350 00006 00025 00020

I went back to the original e-mail. The actual "error" is an incorrect directory statement. PASCAL is invalid and should be MDISK.

That said, the DISKMAP program doesn't process that properly, so there is an error in the detection and processing of an incorrect MDISK statement.

I Hope That Helps.

... Mark S.

Re: File /epubs_pdfs.txt uploaded

polluks@... (Stefan A. Haubenthal) — Tue, 08 Apr 2025 03:13:44 -0700

For your information Manx, a catalogue of online computer manuals.

VM/370 CE V1R1.2, Hercules 3.13 on macOS

Re: Oh FULIST, Where Have You Gone?

San-Lorenzo@... (Martin Scheffler) — Mon, 07 Apr 2025 18:56:32 -0700

On Sun, Apr 6, 2025 at 09:20 AM, Mike Beer wrote:

Martin Scheffler was working on RDRLIST and FULIST,

[email protected] | EE goes XEDIT - testing new features

I have a REXX driven prototype of RDRLIST based on The New EE and similar preparations for FILELIST, but my development has come to a full stop due to my health.

I still do not have access to ADHD medication (stimulants) and I am unable to write instructions how to use a bleeding edge release of The New EE.

Martin

Re: Oh FULIST, Where Have You Gone?

berry.vansleeuwen@... (Berry van Sleeuwen) — Mon, 07 Apr 2025 11:55:03 -0700

Kris,

Do you also have an alias for FILELIST to catch FIELLIST? ;-)

Regards, Berry.

Op 07-04-2025 om 18:40 schreef kris.buelens via groups.io:

Re: Oh FULIST, Where Have You Gone?

kris.buelens@... — Mon, 07 Apr 2025 09:40:06 -0700

FULIST and FLIST are quite similar. The first look was identical.

As end-user you need some adaption to migrate to FIELLIST, there you can type over the file information. In FULIST/FLIST here was/is an empty area in which to type the command to execute, and you had to hit a PF-key to extend that command area

The FULIST/FLIST layout was <filename filetype fm> <empty zone> <file attributes like date/time ets>

Kris Buelens

File /epubs_pdfs.txt uploaded

@... — Mon, 07 Apr 2025 01:37:28 -0700

The following items have been added to the Files area of the [email protected] group.

/epubs_pdfs.txt

By: petermstockdill@...

Description:
Some current IBM PDF publications at https://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/epubs/pdf/*

Re: Oh FULIST, Where Have You Gone?

marXtevens@... (Mark A. Stevens) — Sun, 06 Apr 2025 14:48:04 -0700

On Sun, Apr 6, 2025 at 10:26 AM, Dave Wade wrote:

It seems to me that every VM Programmer had their own favourite tweaked version of these utilities....

What's the use and where's the fun in being a VM Programmer if you can't tweak the utilities to your liking ;-)

I guess this means that FILELIST is closer to FULIST than FLIST is, and I'll stop looking/asking.

Thanks folks! Another rabbit hole filled in.

... Mark S.

Re: Oh FULIST, Where Have You Gone?

dave.g4ugm@... (Dave Wade) — Sun, 06 Apr 2025 08:26:58 -0700

On 06/04/2025 16:12, kris.buelens via groups.io wrote:

FULIST was the IBM "Internal Use Only" version of what later became FLIST as part of VM/IPF, what later became CMS Utilities Feature. Besides the name there were small differences, but that I no longer remember.
Anyhow: I prefer FILELIST as that brings the power of XEDIT in the list (like the ability of using ALL /xxx/) and then for example "EXECUTE * mycommand"

It seems to me that every VM Programmer had their own favourite tweaked version of these utilities....

Dave

Re: Oh FULIST, Where Have You Gone?

kris.buelens@... — Sun, 06 Apr 2025 08:12:56 -0700

FULIST was the IBM "Internal Use Only" version of what later became FLIST as part of VM/IPF, what later became CMS Utilities Feature. Besides the name there were small differences, but that I no longer remember.

Anyhow: I prefer FILELIST as that brings the power of XEDIT in the list (like the ability of using ALL /xxx/) and then for example "EXECUTE * mycommand"

Kris Buelens

Re: Oh FULIST, Where Have You Gone?

antebios1153@... (Mike Ward) — Sun, 06 Apr 2025 07:20:29 -0700

Never heard of Fulist. Are you thinking about Flist?

Re: Oh FULIST, Where Have You Gone?

mike@... (Mike Beer) — Sun, 06 Apr 2025 00:20:22 -0700

Martin Scheffler was working on RDRLIST and FULIST,

[email protected] | EE goes XEDIT - testing new features

description of FLIST e.g. here:

z/VM V6.3 CMS Commands and Utilities Reference

best regards

Mike

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Betreff: [h390-vm] Oh FULIST, Where Have You Gone?

I have seen references to FULIST, and how wonderful it was.

Does anyone have anything, more than yearnings for it, such as screen shots, documentation, or horrors, code?

Thanks In Advance.

... Mark S.

Oh FULIST, Where Have You Gone?

marXtevens@... (Mark A. Stevens) — Sat, 05 Apr 2025 15:07:56 -0700

I have seen references to FULIST, and how wonderful it was.

Does anyone have anything, more than yearnings for it, such as screen shots, documentation, or horrors, code?

Thanks In Advance.

... Mark S.

Re: File /JPC-IBMDocs.zip uploaded

berry.vansleeuwen@... (Berry van Sleeuwen) — Thu, 03 Apr 2025 06:23:26 -0700

Hi Jean-Pierre,

I had downloaded all files previously identified and removed all duplicates. Now I have compared those with your list. There are a few errors in the list.

File ich1a421.pdf has a duplicate, it's listed twice.

Files a7604060.pdf asmtic21.pdf bpxza5b0.pdf e0z2n110.pdf f1ah2031.pdf iea3r100.pdf ifc5g101.pdf are missing, though it looks like a few are actually duplicates, at least according to the title.

a7604060.pdf GA76-0406-00 z/VM V5R2.0 Summary for Automated Installation and Service (DVD Installation)
asmtic21.pdf GC26-8711-06 High Level Assembler for z/OS & z/VM & z/VSE R6 Toolkit Feature Installation and Customization Guide
bpxza5b0.pdf SA22-7802-13 z/OS V1R12 UNIX System Services Command Reference
e0z2n110.pdf GA22-7501-01 Hot Topics issue 5 August 2001
f1ah2031.pdf SC31-8563-04 OS390 IBM Communications Server V2 R10 SNA Network Implementation Guide
iea3r100.pdf SA22-7603-00 z/OS V2R1 MVS Product Management
ifc5g101.pdf GC35-0151-01 EREP R3.5.0 (Ennvironmental Record Editing and Printing program) User's Guide

The Hot Topics do have a document number, please find the list here:

e0z1nl00.pdf    GA22-7431-00 Hot Topics Issue 1 August 1999
e0z1nl01.pdf    GA22-7431-01 Hot Topics Issue 24 February 2011
e0z1nl02.pdf    GA22-7431-02 Hot Topics Issue 3 August 2000
e0z2n100.pdf    GA22-7501-00 zOS V1R1.0 Hot Topics Newsletter
e0z2n110.pdf    GA22-7501-01 Hot Topics issue 5 August 2001
e0z2n120.pdf    GA22-7501-02 Hot Topics Issue 6 February 2002
e0z2n130.pdf    GA22-7501-03 Hot Topics Issue 7 August 2002
e0z2n132.pdf    GA22-7501-05 Hot Topics Issue 9 August 2003
e0z2n140.pdf    GA22-7501-06 Hot Topics Issue 10 February 2004
e0z2n150.pdf    GA22-7501-07 Hot Topics Issue 11 August 2004
e0z2n151.pdf    GA22-7501-08 Hot Topics Issue 12 February 2005
e0z2n160.pdf    GA22-7501-09 Hot Topics Issue 13 August 2005
e0z2n161.pdf    GA22-7501-10 Hot Topics Issue 14 February 2006
e0z2n170.pdf    GA22-7501-11 Hot Topics Issue 15 August 2006
e0z2n171.pdf    GA22-7501-12 Hot Topics Issue 16 February 2007
e0z2n180.pdf    GA22-7501-13 Hot Topics Issue 17 August 2007
e0z2n181.pdf    GA22-7501-14 Hot Topics Issue 18 February 2008
e0z2n190.pdf    GA22-7501-15 Hot Topics Issue 19 August 2008
e0z2n191.pdf    GA22-7501-16 Hot Topics Issue 20 March 2009
e0z2n1a0.pdf    GA22-7501-17 Hot Topics Issue 21 August 2009
e0z2n1a1.pdf    GA22-7501-18 Hot Topics Issue 22 March 2010
e0z2nl04.pdf    GA22-7501-01 Hot Topics Issue 5 August 2001
e0z2nl08.pdf    GA22-7501-04 Hot Topics Issue 8 February 2003

Looking for the Document number for "IBM BookManager BookServer for WWW" I couldn't find the number. But I did get a hit for this title in a zOS V1R10 Planning manual at https://publibfp.dhe.ibm.com/epubs/pdf/e0z2b101.pdf. So looks like we might also want to list publibfp as well, it's similar to publibz.

Regards, Berry.

Op 02-04-2025 om 14:18 schreef Group Notification:

Re: File /IBMDocs.zip uploaded

jean-pierre@... (Jean-Pierre Cabanié) — Thu, 03 Apr 2025 06:03:35 -0700

Hi Stefan,

Thanks for the hints. I used Rexx a lot (since VM/SP3 on a 4341 to the abandon of OS/2) [Then I switched to Java in order to avoid Windows even if my shop was using it) and since my retirement, I have played with lua (quite nice) so my rexx skills are quite rusted.

My discovery of Hercules and the ability (mailny due to René Ferland so kind help) of having a vm-esa working machine will certainly help me in re-mastering language.

Thanks again. have a nice day

Jean-Pierre

Le 03/04/2025 à 14:52, Stefan A. Haubenthal via groups.io a écrit :

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Hi Jean-Pierre,

Just two hints:

#!/usr/bin/env rexx

makes your script more portable

Do l = 1 while lines(csvFile) > 0

is a short form of your condition

--

VM/370 CE V1R1.2, Hercules 3.13 on macOS

-- 
Jπr

Re: File /IBMDocs.zip uploaded

polluks@... (Stefan A. Haubenthal) — Thu, 03 Apr 2025 05:52:30 -0700

Hi Jean-Pierre,

Just two hints:

#!/usr/bin/env rexx

makes your script more portable

Do l = 1 while lines(csvFile) > 0

is a short form of your condition

VM/370 CE V1R1.2, Hercules 3.13 on macOS

Re: File /IBMDocs.zip uploaded

jean-pierre@... (Jean-Pierre Cabanié) — Wed, 02 Apr 2025 05:32:05 -0700

Alas, it was far from perfect. I've enhanced the results (finding out all the titles I could and doing my best for finding was hidden before 8 letters ones and then sort on the documents numbers and remove the duplicate entry. And as I'm not fully satisfied with the results, I thought that each of us would find a need for some improvement.

Formerly, I used the lua language (easy to handle bunches of line and providing a good json interface) I thought that it would be more suitable to use a language we all share : REXX. My lua program generated a csv file (easily modifed, handled with libreoddice-calc like programs [who said Excel ?] or a plain text editor where the url, the document number and the title on every document are on one line separated by a tab (x09) character.

The csv2html file is just a way to transform the contents of the csv file into a table displayed by any web browser. It is not a state of the art program just a tool cvs2html ibmdocs.csv cat.html will produce a cat.html file identical to the catalog.html which is in the zip file. Warning The output file is not erased by the program. you may end up with a double size catalog, the new version of it being at the end of the file. (it is also a way to have a table with the MVS entries, then one with VM, JES, JES2, JES3 ...

Just keep the imbdocs.csv file in a safe place and do whatever you wish .

Enjoy !

Tanks again for the deep knowledge you make available for everybody

Jean-Pierre Cabanié

Le 30/03/2025 à 05:21, Fish Fish via groups.io a écrit :

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PERFECT!

THANK YOU, René!

-- 
Jπr

File /JPC-IBMDocs.zip uploaded

@... — Wed, 02 Apr 2025 05:18:44 -0700

The following items have been added to the Files area of the [email protected] group.

/JPC-IBMDocs.zip

By: Jean-Pierre Cabanié <jean-pierre@...>

Description:
IBM Boulder documentation catalog (HTML and CSV) and REXX translator

REXX SURVEY

mike@... (Michael Beer) — Mon, 31 Mar 2025 08:29:33 -0700

Dear h390-vm followers,

Till Winkler is currently conducting a survey on the usage of REXX.

If you are using REXX, please participate and forward this link:

https://rexxcommunity.limesurvey.net/418844?lang=en

The results will be presented on the REXX symposium in Vienna in May.

Thank you & best regards

Mike

Re: File /IBMDocs.zip uploaded

jean-pierre@... (Jean-Pierre Cabanié) — Sun, 30 Mar 2025 15:42:27 -0700

I'm really sorry, but a typo in the program missing.lua made some entries undetected and hence the html output René Ferland uploaded for me a few days ago was not 100% correct. I'm currently working on a new set of tools that will (I hope) not only be bug-free but produce a better looking html output (a table instead of a list).

Please accept my most sincere apologies for this poor contribution.

Jean-Pierre Cabanié (a bit ashamed)

Le 30/03/2025 à 21:57, Andre via groups.io a écrit :

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On Sun, Mar 30, 2025 at 10:35 PM, René Ferland wrote:

Waterloo SCRIPT is available on VM/370 CE, type "help script". The manual is in SCRIPT LISTING U.

Cheers,

Rene FERLAND, Montreal

P.S. -- I remember using SCRIPT on MUSIC/SP for course material when I taught Fortran and SAS back in 1982.

Wow!! This is so cool! I will definitely try it out!

Thanks, Rene!

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Jπr

Re: File /IBMDocs.zip uploaded

procritic@... (Andre) — Sun, 30 Mar 2025 12:57:38 -0700

On Sun, Mar 30, 2025 at 10:35 PM, René Ferland wrote:

Waterloo SCRIPT is available on VM/370 CE, type "help script". The manual is in SCRIPT LISTING U.

Cheers,

Rene FERLAND, Montreal

P.S. -- I remember using SCRIPT on MUSIC/SP for course material when I taught Fortran and SAS back in 1982.

Wow!! This is so cool! I will definitely try it out!

Thanks, Rene!