This group is for all folks running the original IBM VM/370 Release 6 operating system (or later (e.g. VMTCE (Community Edition)) on Hercules. Like the other early IBM operating systems this version has always been in the public domain and so can be freely distributed. The base version as supplied by IBM is lacking in many facilities. IBM solved this by providing additional extension products which were licensed and so are not available. There are however many user enhancements available which can be installed. In addition, in order to get users up and running quickly updated "releases" of VM/370 included the most popular updates are available for download, so novices can start to learn VM without having to delve into the system internals. It is intended that this wiki will provide information on the base release and these updates.
The available versions are here :-
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Re: Where is the source code of ASSEMBLER XF (IFOX00) in VM/370 Community Edition V1R1.2 ?
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Hi Tony,
You must have missed my many posts over on the Turnkey Group! For my IFOX00 refurbishment project I took the source code that was generated by Paul Gorlinsky¡¯s excellent work and merged in
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Tom Armstrong
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Re: RDRLIST on VM/370 CE
I think I have enough new building blocks in EE that RDRLIST should be doable in a similar way as XEDIT does. As a proof of concept, I have downstripped RECEIVE EXEC Y2 to use it as a PEEK macro. PEEK
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Martin Scheffler
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Re: Where is the source code of ASSEMBLER XF (IFOX00) in VM/370 Community Edition V1R1.2 ?
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[email protected]> wrote:
Ah yes, that thread... It goes 100% off-topic at some point around
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Tony Harminc
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Re: Where is the source code of ASSEMBLER XF (IFOX00) in VM/370 Community Edition V1R1.2 ?
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I searched the files on that groups.io list
/g/hercules-s370asm/files
and did not find any source code for Assembler XF. Maybe someone has better eyes than I do?
In more searching
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Mark A. Stevens
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Re: Where is the source code of ASSEMBLER XF (IFOX00) in VM/370 Community Edition V1R1.2 ?
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Just about all the tools we have are available in source code, usually assembler, but some are in other languages.
I recently tried, and partially succeeded to install IOS3270. It does run, the only
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Mark A. Stevens
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Re: Where is the source code of ASSEMBLER XF (IFOX00) in VM/370 Community Edition V1R1.2 ?
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What will you do if its different? I ran production VM systems for many years and always accepted that the Assembler worked, as we never had the source, or the space to fix it. Pretty sure if things
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Dave Wade
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Re: Where is the source code of ASSEMBLER XF (IFOX00) in VM/370 Community Edition V1R1.2 ?
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Assembler XF is an essential tool to build VM/370, so I want to know if Assembler XF can assemble itself producing identical object code. Then I want to know if assembling CMS and CP using this
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Martin Scheffler
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Re: Where is the source code of ASSEMBLER XF (IFOX00) in VM/370 Community Edition V1R1.2 ?
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Thanks for that. I think its a good working description. Might make good bedtime reading.
Dave
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Dave Wade
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Re: Where is the source code of ASSEMBLER XF (IFOX00) in VM/370 Community Edition V1R1.2 ?
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Even with the source on a MVS pack arguably you don?t need any MVS system or MVS tools, which is probably no one has bothered to move it to a CMS disk.
The source is horrible, I have no idea why
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Dave Wade
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Re: Where is the source code of ASSEMBLER XF (IFOX00) in VM/370 Community Edition V1R1.2 ?
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Since the code exists on MVS 3.8j, there is no reason it could not exist on VM/370. Just someone having the time to do so.
... Mark S.
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Mark A. Stevens
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Re: Where is the source code of ASSEMBLER XF (IFOX00) in VM/370 Community Edition V1R1.2 ?
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The only thing close to an internals manual is the Assembler PLM SY33-8041... available from a couple of sources including this
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William Denton
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Re: Where is the source code of ASSEMBLER XF (IFOX00) in VM/370 Community Edition V1R1.2 ?
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Is it possible - legally and technically - to have all the source code of ASSEMBLER XF (IFOX00) on a CMS disk on VM/370 Community Edition and build it completely from source without any running MVS
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Martin Scheffler
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Re: Where is the source code of ASSEMBLER XF (IFOX00) in VM/370 Community Edition V1R1.2 ?
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A Clarification
For OS/360, OS/VS (VS1, SVS and MVS), IBM never shipped much (if any) source code with the "distribution materials" (PID tapes).
Customers had to order the "optional source
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Mark Waterbury
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Updated Wiki Page: Reserved CMS Modification Numbers
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The wiki page Reserved CMS Modification Numbers ( /g/h390-vm/wiki/37735/211550 ) has been updated by William Denton <williamedenton@...>.
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Re: Where is the source code of ASSEMBLER XF (IFOX00) in VM/370 Community Edition V1R1.2 ?
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Here Here. Jay really did a lot of work on this stuff....
... and thanks to Mark for either digging this out. So it appears that whilst the base Assembler source was distributed , the PTFs were only
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Dave Wade
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Rexx PARSE test cases needed
I have a fix in progress for the BREXX bug that has been described as
"BREXX PARSE errors with literals in the template" (
https://github.com/s390guy/vm370/issues/61), although that's just one
aspect
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Ross Patterson
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Re: Where is the source code of ASSEMBLER XF (IFOX00) in VM/370 Community Edition V1R1.2 ?
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Jay Moseley has this on his web site:
https://www.jaymoseley.com/hercules/for_mvt/ifox_mvt.htm
This includes a description of how Paul Gorlinksy disassembled PTFed objects and retrofitted the
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Mark Waterbury
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Re: Where is the source code of ASSEMBLER XF (IFOX00) in VM/370 Community Edition V1R1.2 ?
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I thought someone updated the ASMXF source to reflect all the PTF¡¯s a number of years ago.
Isn¡¯t there a S370 asm group? Probably there but I¡¯ll see if I have a copy.
Laddie Hanus
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laddiehanus
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Re: Where is the source code of ASSEMBLER XF (IFOX00) in VM/370 Community Edition V1R1.2 ?
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I never said it wasn?t. What I said was that it wasn?t distributed with VM/370.
Pretty sure it is the actual PDS name from the MVS source disks
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Dave Wade
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Re: Where is the source code of ASSEMBLER XF (IFOX00) in VM/370 Community Edition V1R1.2 ?
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One thing I found interesting in the referenced Assembler mods was the mention of the existence of source code for the Assembler In the MVS/370 distro.
The `ifmods.memo.txt` file inside `ifmods.zip`
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William Denton
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