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Small, portable, light weight Hexbeam


Mark A. Smith
 

Group,

I found a website that some of you are probably already aware of. This
company manufactures a portable 2 element beam made of wire and fiberglass
spreaders. I believe the weight was under 8 pounds, the gain was around
4-6db, and the turning radius less than 10 feet on 20M.

They also have a 5 band beam. I haven't purchased one of these yet, but I've
read more than a few good reports on them. It seems they are comparable to a
trapped 3 elem./3 band yagi in performance, but with a much smaller
footprint. The wire element lengths are full sized, and they're suppose to
quiet like a quad. They also sell collapsible masts for portable op.

If any of you have any experience with these I'd sure appreciate any
comments you might have.

Their website is

Mark
KB5KYX

----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Mc" <tjmc@...>
To: <FT817@...>
Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2001 1:45 PM
Subject: [FT817] Mini antennas for HF...


Hi Gang,

I've seen / used small antennas before ( the HT-750 antennas for
starters and the the PW-1 now )and have come to a conclusion; they work
but not well!

Don't take this the wrong way... they do work, ( yes I've worked DX on a
40inch whip), but poorly due to the physical/electrical size of them as
compared to a regular HF antenna.

If there is no choice then of course use a shortened antenna, but most
of the time there is an option.

Any light weight end feed wire of lenght(without coax)or light weight
dipole (or V ) with coax/twinlead will outdo the small antenna easily (
and prob fit in a zip-lock bag).

comments welcome

best
Tom aa2vk




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Mark,

The Hexbeam is excellent and real. In short, it was the only antenna
to hold up for Chuck at Bouvet Island. It is a bit pricey, but worth
it. I have the 5-band one ready to put up soon. Friends that have
it simply are very pleased with the Hexbeam.

72 de Barry - W4WB





--- In FT817@y..., "Mark A. Smith" <kb5kyx@k...> wrote:
Group,

I found a website that some of you are probably already aware of.
This
company manufactures a portable 2 element beam made of wire and
fiberglass
spreaders. I believe the weight was under 8 pounds, the gain was
around
4-6db, and the turning radius less than 10 feet on 20M.

They also have a 5 band beam. I haven't purchased one of these yet,
but I've
read more than a few good reports on them. It seems they are
comparable to a
trapped 3 elem./3 band yagi in performance, but with a much smaller
footprint. The wire element lengths are full sized, and they're
suppose to
quiet like a quad. They also sell collapsible masts for portable op.

If any of you have any experience with these I'd sure appreciate any
comments you might have.

Their website is

Mark
KB5KYX


----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Mc" <tjmc@e...>
To: <FT817@y...>
Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2001 1:45 PM
Subject: [FT817] Mini antennas for HF...


Hi Gang,

I've seen / used small antennas before ( the HT-750 antennas for
starters and the the PW-1 now )and have come to a conclusion; they
work
but not well!

Don't take this the wrong way... they do work, ( yes I've worked DX
on a
40inch whip), but poorly due to the physical/electrical size of
them as
compared to a regular HF antenna.

If there is no choice then of course use a shortened antenna, but
most
of the time there is an option.

Any light weight end feed wire of lenght(without coax)or light
weight
dipole (or V ) with coax/twinlead will outdo the small antenna
easily (
and prob fit in a zip-lock bag).

comments welcome

best
Tom aa2vk




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--- In FT817@y..., Bill Walker <kd7jzb@m...> wrote:
Ok, looks interesting but how do they work? Theory I mean.
It looks like a horizontal loop of some sort. Is it NVIS? Anyone
know?

At 14:20 6/16/01 -0500, you wrote:
Hi Bill,

The design evolved from Mike Traffie back in 1992 as I recall. The
basic design is pair of W elements facing each other. One is the
driven element and the other is the reflector. The centers of each
element are close together as are the ends of the elements
proximate. Think of it as the letter M and the letter W on top of
each other. The elements can be supported by three crossed arms that
for a six-side configuration, hence hex.

Modeling this antenna is difficult and can not properly be done using
NEC3 because of limitations in the code. It is thought that NEC4 may
be able to do it, but I am not aware of anyone attempting it yet.
The approximate model indicates performance in the ballpark of that
observed by various people. When I model it using NEC3, the upper
lobes common with most antennas appear to be suppressed.

This is an interesting and good performing 2-element (half-size) beam
that works very well. I note that it is designed to work best about
40'. Raising the height lowers further the take-off angle.

This help you?

72 de Barry - W4WB


 

This antenna is extremely similar to an "X-Beam."
I have documentation on my web site on how to build your own X-Beam
with specifics for VHF/UHF. The general formulae for building for other
bands is included.

It would be easy (and much cheaper) to build your own portable
hex/x-beam.

72/73,

Bryan - k0emt


 

--- In FT817@y..., Bryan Nehl - k0emt <k0emt@d...> wrote:
This antenna is extremely similar to an "X-Beam."
I have documentation on my web site on how to build your own X-Beam
with specifics for VHF/UHF. The general formulae for building for
other
bands is included.

It would be easy (and much cheaper) to build your own portable
hex/x-beam.

72/73,

Bryan - k0emt
Brian,

I think "extremely similar" is an overstatement of fact. This
comparison of the x-beam and Hexbeam has been put forth before, but
is IMO inapropriate. The geometry of the x-beam is somewhat like the
Hexbeam with its wings tucked in. Makes a big difference. Frankly,
there are aspects of the Hexbeam design/fabrication that makes it
just a bit tough for a homebrew.

72 de Barry - W4WB


Bill Walker
 

Excellent reply Barry. That answers my question very well.

Tnx, 72

On Sunday 17 June 2001 04:21 am, you wrote:

This help you?

72 de Barry - W4WB
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Glyph
 

Hex beams don't look very sexy, but they seem to perform very well. -- Bil

----- Original Message -----
From: Mark A. Smith <kb5kyx@...>
To: <FT817@...>
Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2001 12:20 PM
Subject: [FT817] Small, portable, light weight Hexbeam


Group,

I found a website that some of you are probably already aware of. This
company manufactures a portable 2 element beam made of wire and fiberglass
spreaders. I believe the weight was under 8 pounds, the gain was around
4-6db, and the turning radius less than 10 feet on 20M.

They also have a 5 band beam. I haven't purchased one of these yet, but
I've
read more than a few good reports on them. It seems they are comparable to
a
trapped 3 elem./3 band yagi in performance, but with a much smaller
footprint. The wire element lengths are full sized, and they're suppose to
quiet like a quad. They also sell collapsible masts for portable op.

If any of you have any experience with these I'd sure appreciate any
comments you might have.

Their website is

Mark
KB5KYX


----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Mc" <tjmc@...>
To: <FT817@...>
Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2001 1:45 PM
Subject: [FT817] Mini antennas for HF...


Hi Gang,

I've seen / used small antennas before ( the HT-750 antennas for
starters and the the PW-1 now )and have come to a conclusion; they work
but not well!

Don't take this the wrong way... they do work, ( yes I've worked DX on a
40inch whip), but poorly due to the physical/electrical size of them as
compared to a regular HF antenna.

If there is no choice then of course use a shortened antenna, but most
of the time there is an option.

Any light weight end feed wire of lenght(without coax)or light weight
dipole (or V ) with coax/twinlead will outdo the small antenna easily (
and prob fit in a zip-lock bag).

comments welcome

best
Tom aa2vk




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Bill Walker
 

Ok, looks interesting but how do they work? Theory I mean.
It looks like a horizontal loop of some sort. Is it NVIS? Anyone know?

At 14:20 6/16/01 -0500, you wrote:
Group,

I found a website that some of you are probably already aware of. This
company manufactures a portable 2 element beam made of wire and fiberglass
spreaders. I believe the weight was under 8 pounds, the gain was around
4-6db, and the turning radius less than 10 feet on 20M.

They also have a 5 band beam. I haven't purchased one of these yet, but I've
read more than a few good reports on them. It seems they are comparable to a
trapped 3 elem./3 band yagi in performance, but with a much smaller
footprint. The wire element lengths are full sized, and they're suppose to
quiet like a quad. They also sell collapsible masts for portable op.

If any of you have any experience with these I'd sure appreciate any
comments you might have.

Their website is

Mark
KB5KYX


----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Mc" <tjmc@...>
To: <FT817@...>
Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2001 1:45 PM
Subject: [FT817] Mini antennas for HF...


Hi Gang,

I've seen / used small antennas before ( the HT-750 antennas for
starters and the the PW-1 now )and have come to a conclusion; they work
but not well!

Don't take this the wrong way... they do work, ( yes I've worked DX on a
40inch whip), but poorly due to the physical/electrical size of them as
compared to a regular HF antenna.

If there is no choice then of course use a shortened antenna, but most
of the time there is an option.

Any light weight end feed wire of lenght(without coax)or light weight
dipole (or V ) with coax/twinlead will outdo the small antenna easily (
and prob fit in a zip-lock bag).

comments welcome

best
Tom aa2vk




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Bill Walker - KD7JZB


Thomas C. Sefranek
 

"Mark A. Smith" wrote:

Group,

I found a website that some of you are probably already aware of. This
company manufactures a portable 2 element beam made of wire and fiberglass
spreaders. I believe the weight was under 8 pounds, the gain was around
4-6db, and the turning radius less than 10 feet on 20M.

They also have a 5 band beam. I haven't purchased one of these yet, but I've
read more than a few good reports on them. It seems they are comparable to a
trapped 3 elem./3 band yagi in performance, but with a much smaller
footprint. The wire element lengths are full sized, and they're suppose to
quiet like a quad. They also sell collapsible masts for portable op.

If any of you have any experience with these I'd sure appreciate any
comments you might have.
I have tested/compared the 17 meter version with my 4 element 17 meter mono-bander.
It worked remarkably well! It is a bit of a mystery how Mr. Traffie gets a 50 ohm match
WITHOUT any matching sections. baluns, etc.

We have used the 5 band version for field day and had excellent results too.
(It's nice having Mr. Trafffie for a neighbor...)

Yes, it is NOT a cheap antenna, BUT you Do get Quality components.

Their website is

Mark
KB5KYX
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