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817 compatibility with Elecraft AX-3
I recently saw some info on the new Eleccraft antenna offering the AX-3.? The youtube videos I saw demonstrated it being used with Elecraft radios.? I know the antenna needs a tuner and I use an LDG Z817 with great success with my 817nd = will this setup work with the AX-1?? Thanks for any and all replies.
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Rich KB3OMJ |
开云体育Comparing the tuning ranges of your LDG tuner and those in the Elecraft radios should provide you with the answer to your question.On 5/21/25 07:31, hermit wrote:
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I have one of the EleCraft AX1 small whip verticals.? I am not impressed, it shows over 20 db less on rcv than my 40m long wire.? I am sure you can make contacts, but I am sure you will miss many.? For the price one does not get much.?? But if you like this type of operation with very quick setup go for it.? One issue most follow is the counter poise wire, ground side, should not be left on the ground.? Many have separate pole or tripod for the wire.
On Wednesday, May 21, 2025 at 07:40:44 AM EDT, Jeff WN1MB <jwbauer@...> wrote:
Comparing the tuning ranges of your LDG tuner and those in the
Elecraft radios should provide you with the answer to your question. On 5/21/25 07:31, hermit wrote:
I recently saw some info on the new Eleccraft antenna
offering the AX-3.? The youtube videos I saw demonstrated it
being used with Elecraft radios.? I know the antenna needs a
tuner and I use an LDG Z817 with great success with my 817nd =
will this setup work with the AX-1?? Thanks for any and all
replies.
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73
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Rich KB3OMJ
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开云体育This is what hams do! ?The AX-1, AX-2, AX-3, etc., are fun experimental antennas. ?They work as well as any short vertical antenna in certain situations. ?Are they as good as a long high wire? ?Heck NO! But they allow experimentally minded hams to tinker and see just what they can do with a compromised antenna. ?And on the higher bands and when the sunspots are with us one can make even DX contacts. ?Many hams have made legitimate SOTA and POTA contacts with these and similar antennas and at the end of the day those hams are happy campers. ?If you want guaranteed contacts every ?time get on the air with 100 or even 1000 watts, a high wire or even a beam antenna and have fun. ? If you like to experiment and see what this hobby is capable of get on the air with whatever short antenna you can make or purchase and join the crowd. Elecraft has made it easy to just purchase their manufactured product instead of building your own. ?Either way can be fun for those of us who like to experiment and tinker with putting rf into the air and see who comes back to us.? To each his own. ?Or whatever lights your fire………? Dave K8WPE On May 21, 2025, at 2:39?PM, Ron Wright via groups.io <lt_wright_flg@...> wrote:
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Military rigs have used 8′ whips for at least 70 or maybe 80 years down to 1.6 MHz. They simply added series inductance and the best was a drum where it wound onto a spindle (Racal in 1970s?). I've used the Elecraft T1 to "tune" both the telescopic 5/8th approx CB "silver stick" (with base matching coil removed) and also a springy base CB whip on a mag-mount. You need big radials if it's up a pole, but an earth spike or long wire lying over damp ground becomes more important at lower frequencies. Lowest is 40m on a CB whip with a tuner, and 80m on big base CB aerial. Make sure any big telescopic vertical isn't electrically a 1/2 wave at 10m or a whole wave at 6m or it won't "tune up". Of course a loaded whip is massively poorer than a long wire at 40m and terrible at 80m. Won't make as much difference on 20m to 6m. But it's portable. I did work Limerick Ireland to Shetlands on a 20W Racal with 8′ whip on 160m once. The "counterpoise" was about 16′ of trailing wire. |
Dave (K8WPE) and Mike (EI9FEB), I admire your "Ham spirit" and agree with you!? As a QRPer who frequently operates portable and pedestrian mobile I often rely on Gooch's Paradox.
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There are many variations of the Paradox, but two important ones are "RF gotta go somewhere" (first stated by David Newkirk, W9BRD*) and the more common formulation: "Some things must be believed to be seen."
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Remember, Dorothy could always go home. ?She just had to believe.?
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*David now has his father's callsign.? Rod Newkirk, W9BRD, wrote the How's DX column in QST for 31 years.
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On Sat, May 24, 2025 at 12:27 PM, David Wilcox K8WPE wrote:
No, that won't g'tee a contact. Anyway, unless you are at the stamp collecting end of the hobby (and valid fun for many), it's not just about contacts, especially not about 1kW on beams. Besides, many places if you did 1kW all the house and car alarms would go off! I think it was sad when the Irish Regulator, Comreg, decided we are Radio Amateurs rather than "Wireless Experimenters". I was delighted to "trade in" GI8JTR and become a Wireless Experimenter. Of course "Amateur" used to only mean unpaid (vs Professionals who got paid). Now in common usage many use the adjective amateur to mean incompetent. But Professional vs Amateur shouldn't be about competence and plenty of so-called "professionals" in business and technology (especially software and doubly so web sites and User Interfaces) are incompetent. |
开云体育Hey Mike,I like your term “Wireless Experimenter”. ?I think that works for those of us who “tinker” and “play” radio with little antennas and low power. ?Thanks! ?And your thoughts about setting off the neighbors alarm system, etc., with 1000 watts. Yes, it’s possible. And the extra cost for a 1000 watt rig including the bigger coax, tower, beam antenna. ?I have always had my fun with 100 watts or less even in 1960 when I got on the air, mostly 5 watts or less. ?So I am a “Wireless Experimenter”….. and love it. ?Thanks again for the idea and the term. Dave K8WPE On May 25, 2025, at 9:33?AM, Mike EI9FEB <ei9feb@...> wrote:
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