|
Happy Friday everyone,?
?
I'm designing a new home workshop addition and would love help from anyone willing to offer it.? I don’t want to bore or overload with details, so I will try to provide the minimum to allow for some helpful guidance. ?
?
As we all know, my layout will change a thousand more times now and after I move in, so my goal is to try and design as compact a space as possible while still allowing for flexibility.? This will not be a production shop so maximum efficiency isn’t critical, but I would like to minimize pulling out the pallet jack every time I want to use a different tool. ?
?
I think like many here, I am obsessed with cool and well built tools.? As a result, all my home shops have been machine heavy, meaning I had minimal space to actually build things because the small spaces were packed with tools.? I am hoping to change that this time.? I would also like to be able to move materials from one operation to another on a rolling cart (3ft clearance between tools minimum). ?
?
?In the attached photos, the machine area (Top of the T) is roughly 38’x29’ (some flexibility in these dimensions) while the lower portion of the T where the assembly and work bench area is located will be 25’*20’ (not particularly flexible due to existing conditions)
?
|
I hope to be able to process a 12’ board without moving the more major tools and hope to place windows in key places to allow for the occasional processing of longer boards. ?
?
I have 3d printed (1/32 scale) all the tools I own and those I hope to acquire over the coming years and have played with different layouts for way too long.? I would love some fresh ideas.? Do any of these layouts seem better than others, any glaring weakness’s in these layouts. ? Other suggestions?
|
One of the areas I am struggling with is placement of the large footprint sliding TS. I have read previous posts here about the idea of putting the saw in the middle and stacking other tools around it. At home I have always had mine against the wall, and the same for the shops I have worked in, so I am too dim to figure out which tools to stack around the TS, might someone provide an example or suggestions of what tools best stack against the saw? ?
?
Also I currently have a combo slider/shaper, but will get a separate shaper when I move in (Profil 45 or similar size). ? What do you guys like for space around your shaper? Are these shapers something that I should plan on pulling out and relocating for bigger operations or do they really want to be set and forget.? ? I have yet to make a door or anything particularly large with the shaper, but after taking Joe’s Alpine class I could see that in the future. ?
?
What else am I missing?
?
Thanks so much,?
Anthony?
?
|
Anthony,
Did you attach any docs to your post?
Just to let you know that i am not seeing any in email or on groupio app.
imran
toggle quoted message
Show quoted text
On Jul 17, 2020, at 2:43 PM, tonymiga2@... wrote: ? One of the areas I am struggling with is placement of the large footprint sliding TS. I have read previous posts here about the idea of putting the saw in the middle and stacking other tools around it. At home I have always had mine against the wall, and the same for the shops I have worked in, so I am too dim to figure out which tools to stack around the TS, might someone provide an example or suggestions of what tools best stack against the saw? ?
?
Also I currently have a combo slider/shaper, but will get a separate shaper when I move in (Profil 45 or similar size). ? What do you guys like for space around your shaper? Are these shapers something that I should plan on pulling out and relocating for bigger operations or do they really want to be set and forget.? ? I have yet to make a door or anything particularly large with the shaper, but after taking Joe’s Alpine class I could see that in the future. ?
?
What else am I missing?
?
Thanks so much,?
Anthony?
?
|
Hi Imran,?
Thanks for letting me know. ?I attempted to, but they keep going to my draft folder? I wonder if it is because i am a new user? ?I will keep trying
|
Tony, super curious how you got 3d models for your machines.? I built a new house and shop recently and have struggled mightily with layout.? Have about
2400 sq ft not rectangular.? Printing 3d models would be fun and helpful.
?
toggle quoted message
Show quoted text
From: [email protected] < [email protected]>
On Behalf Of tonymiga2@...
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2020 11:59 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [FOG] The Annex workshop addition
?
Hi Imran,?
Thanks for letting me know. ?I attempted to, but they keep going to my draft folder? I wonder if it is because i am a new user? ?I will keep trying
|
I'm looking forward to seeing the version with pictures.? :)
Usually if you just insert the pictures in your desktop email
client, groupsio will send them through.
--
Michael Garrison Stuber
Hi Imran,?
Thanks for letting me know. ?I attempted to, but they keep going
to my draft folder? I wonder if it is because i am a new user? ?I
will keep trying
--
Michael Garrison Stuber
|
Hi Joe,
It has been super helpful as a way to visualize the space. ?I actually made the models myself using fusion 360. ?I am a novice user of the software and actually used this project as a way of advancing my skills. ?If you have any more questions I can try and help however I can!?
|
|
|
Wow thanks Michael,?
That was super easy!
|
|
|
You're welcome.? Those are coming through great!
--
Michael Garrison Stuber
On 7/17/2020 12:13 PM, Anthony Quesada
wrote:
Wow thanks Michael,?
That was super easy!
--
Michael Garrison Stuber
|
Anthony, This was my layout for a 30x38 shop. Worked well for me. Bill Bélanger
On Fri, Jul 17, 2020 at 3:20 PM Michael Garrison Stuber < mtgstuber@...> wrote:
You're welcome.? Those are coming through great!
--
Michael Garrison Stuber
On 7/17/2020 12:13 PM, Anthony Quesada
wrote:
Wow thanks Michael,?
That was super easy!
--
Michael Garrison Stuber
|
Hi Tony, When I built my shop (30 x 40) I placed all dust collection, air, PEX heat and electrical in the floor. I do have electrical & air drop over work bench and along a wall bench that is 12 feet. ?Also used Paragon lighting system (four foot two bulb system) with high reflective shades. ?Ten foot ceiling painted with gloss white for better light distribution. Also the dust collector located as separate enclosure.? I did this in 2004 and I’m sure there have been improvements in lighting and other items.?
Tom
Happy Friday everyone,? ?
I'm designing a new home workshop addition and would love help from anyone willing to offer it.? I don’t want to bore or overload with details, so I will try to provide the minimum to allow for some helpful guidance. ? ?
As we all know, my layout will change a thousand more times now and after I move in, so my goal is to try and design as compact a space as possible while still allowing for flexibility.? This will not be a production shop so maximum efficiency isn’t critical, but I would like to minimize pulling out the pallet jack every time I want to use a different tool. ? ?
I think like many here, I am obsessed with cool and well built tools.? As a result, all my home shops have been machine heavy, meaning I had minimal space to actually build things because the small spaces were packed with tools.? I am hoping to change that this time.? I would also like to be able to move materials from one operation to another on a rolling cart (3ft clearance between tools minimum). ? ?
?In the attached photos, the machine area (Top of the T) is roughly 38’x29’ (some flexibility in these dimensions) while the lower portion of the T where the assembly and work bench area is located will be 25’*20’ (not particularly flexible due to existing conditions)
?
Select Rentals LLC c/o Tom Goodman 1018 River Dr. River Falls, WI 54022-0544
CELL: 715-441-6526
This electronic transmission and any?attached documents or other writings are intended only for the person?or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is?privileged, confidential or otherwise protected from disclosure. If you?have received this communication in error, please immediately notify?sender by return e-mail and destroy the communication. Any disclosure,?copying, distribution or the taking of any action concerning the contents?of this communication or any attachments by anyone other than the?named recipient is strictly prohibited.
|
Bill,?
Thank you for this! ?It is always so helpful to have visuals of plans that have worked for others. ?This seems like a really nice workflow and well thought out.?
Thanks again
|
Hi Tom,?
I am certainly playing with putting the dust collector in a basement below and then popping up once and having overhead runs everywhere to allow for changes. ?
Your system sounds really dialed and clean. ?I really like the idea of a very bright space that the white ceiling would provide!?
Thanks so much,?
Anthony?
|
i do not know how the wall will look with gloss paint but sure would be easy to clean. i think i have satin. white for ceiling and a light color for walls but dust does adhere to the wall.
imran?
toggle quoted message
Show quoted text
On Jul 17, 2020, at 3:28 PM, trgoodman47 <thomasrgoodman@...> wrote: ? Hi Tony, When I built my shop (30 x 40) I placed all dust collection, air, PEX heat and electrical in the floor. I do have electrical & air drop over work bench and along a wall bench that is 12 feet. ?Also used Paragon lighting system (four foot two bulb system) with high reflective shades. ?Ten foot ceiling painted with gloss white for better light distribution. Also the dust collector located as separate enclosure.? I did this in 2004 and I’m sure there have been improvements in lighting and other items.?
Tom
Happy Friday everyone,? ?
I'm designing a new home workshop addition and would love help from anyone willing to offer it.? I don’t want to bore or overload with details, so I will try to provide the minimum to allow for some helpful guidance. ? ?
As we all know, my layout will change a thousand more times now and after I move in, so my goal is to try and design as compact a space as possible while still allowing for flexibility.? This will not be a production shop so maximum efficiency isn’t critical, but I would like to minimize pulling out the pallet jack every time I want to use a different tool. ? ?
I think like many here, I am obsessed with cool and well built tools.? As a result, all my home shops have been machine heavy, meaning I had minimal space to actually build things because the small spaces were packed with tools.? I am hoping to change that this time.? I would also like to be able to move materials from one operation to another on a rolling cart (3ft clearance between tools minimum). ? ?
?In the attached photos, the machine area (Top of the T) is roughly 38’x29’ (some flexibility in these dimensions) while the lower portion of the T where the assembly and work bench area is located will be 25’*20’ (not particularly flexible due to existing conditions)
?
Select Rentals LLC c/o Tom Goodman 1018 River Dr. River Falls, WI 54022-0544
CELL: 715-441-6526
This electronic transmission and any?attached documents or other writings are intended only for the person?or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is?privileged, confidential or otherwise protected from disclosure. If you?have received this communication in error, please immediately notify?sender by return e-mail and destroy the communication. Any disclosure,?copying, distribution or the taking of any action concerning the contents?of this communication or any attachments by anyone other than the?named recipient is strictly prohibited.
|
Is there stock/material storage somewhere in the layout? If you process large panels / sheet goods that would need ample space around for maneuvering onto the sliding TS. Related to this would be the flow of lumber from point A to B, as well as from the entry point of your shop, I've often overlooked the fact that raw material is large and I've taken out my track saw more than once to be able to bring into the shop and process (by myself).?
How high are your ceilings? Having them taller provides obvious advantages but some downsides too -- cost of cooling/heating is one -- but it does open things up visually / mentally in terms of feeling of spaciousness. I went from 8' to 14' ceilings in my workshop remodel and love them!
The 3d printouts are a nice way to visualize!?
|
I just used graph paper and little scaled cut outs of eat tool’s footprint and “board run” to lay out my recent build.
Can’t stress enough the consideration of material flow. ?Raw material comes in, gets stored, goes through steps to make it smaller, gets finished, and then leaves.
Consider the “flow” of large boards and sheets as well as finished pieces.
My shop is a rectangle, but it’s a “u” shape in that materials come in the bottom left, go through breakdown and primary shaping (or to the CNC), then “right” across tk assembly, then back towards the door for finishing. ?Spray booth is the last piece I’m adding.
 Sent from a device with less than stellar autocorrect
toggle quoted message
Show quoted text
On Jul 17, 2020, at 3:57 PM, Sang Luu <sangluu@...> wrote:
?Is there stock/material storage somewhere in the layout? If you process large panels / sheet goods that would need ample space around for maneuvering onto the sliding TS. Related to this would be the flow of lumber from point A to B, as well as from the entry point of your shop, I've often overlooked the fact that raw material is large and I've taken out my track saw more than once to be able to bring into the shop and process (by myself).?
How high are your ceilings? Having them taller provides obvious advantages but some downsides too -- cost of cooling/heating is one -- but it does open things up visually / mentally in terms of feeling of spaciousness. I went from 8' to 14' ceilings in my workshop remodel and love them!
The 3d printouts are a nice way to visualize!?
|
As some of you know I am selling everything in my shop and the building that the shop is in.
As part of the sales effort the RE agent made a 3D scan of the interior of the building. ?
My shop is set up so everything has 10’ through put.
Maybe the 3D tour will be useful for someone setting up a shop?
Joe in New Orleans
|
imran
Joe Jensen
Bill Belanger
Sang Luu