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Interesting video, two are on my purchase list :)
I removed "expensive" in the subject line, cause I think people on this forum are generally comfortable with this kind of price (not Barth price) for high quality tools.? James
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OK...which two?? I'd guess the multirouter?is one of them. Dave Davies
Interesting video, two are on my purchase list :)
I removed "expensive" in the subject line, cause I think people on this forum are generally comfortable with this kind of price (not Barth price) for high quality tools.? James
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?Multirouter is not on the list, PantoRouter and Tormek T8.
I talked To Mac Sheldon, he said he shipped many PantoRouters to US address near the border for Canadian customers, they crossed the border to pick it up. Otherwise, there are extra brokerage fees and duty except the Canadian tax, cause PantoRouter is made in Taiwan. Because of the pandemic, I cannot cross the border now, just have to wait until the pandemic is over.
Having a horizontal mounted router opens lots of possibilities that you cannot do on the router table, not only for the chair making. For example, I can make an auxiliary table to turn the PantoRouter into the Hoffman dovetail machine.
James
OK...which two?? I'd guess the multirouter?is one of them. Dave Davies
Interesting video, two are on my purchase list :)
I removed "expensive" in the subject line, cause I think people on this forum are generally comfortable with this kind of price (not Barth price) for high quality tools.? James
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Yep, the pantorouter seems to be all the rage at the moment...
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?Multirouter is not on the list, PantoRouter and Tormek T8.
I talked To Mac Sheldon, he said he shipped many PantoRouters to US address near the border for Canadian customers, they crossed the border to pick it up. Otherwise, there are extra brokerage fees and duty except the Canadian tax, cause PantoRouter is made in Taiwan. Because of the pandemic, I cannot cross the border now, just have to wait until the pandemic is over.
Having a horizontal mounted router opens lots of possibilities that you cannot do on the router table, not only for the chair making. For example, I can make an auxiliary table to turn the PantoRouter into the Hoffman dovetail machine.
James OK...which two?? I'd guess the multirouter?is one of them. Dave Davies
Interesting video, two are on my purchase list :)
I removed "expensive" in the subject line, cause I think people on this forum are generally comfortable with this kind of price (not Barth price) for high quality tools.? James
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It will be interesting to see what people think of it. I saw it working two years ago when the designer/owner was in Australia. He was/is very friendly and professional.?
The pantorouter is cool and very capable but it did not strike me as particularly robust. A few professional colleagues and I saw it working for several days while we were participating in a masterclass by Michael Fortune.?
I least liked the plastic parts, and wondered whether the system would hold up to regular use. I don’t know. But I’ve yet to see it demonstrated with “proper hardwoods”. More often than not, pine is being used...
That all said, I watched compound angle joinery being made with relative ease.
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On 1 Nov 2020, at 8:58 am, habacomike via groups.io <habacomike@...> wrote:
? Yep, the pantorouter seems to be all the rage at the moment...
?Multirouter is not on the list, PantoRouter and Tormek T8.
I talked To Mac Sheldon, he said he shipped many PantoRouters to US address near the border for Canadian customers, they crossed the border to pick it up. Otherwise, there are extra brokerage fees and duty except the Canadian tax, cause PantoRouter is made in Taiwan. Because of the pandemic, I cannot cross the border now, just have to wait until the pandemic is over.
Having a horizontal mounted router opens lots of possibilities that you cannot do on the router table, not only for the chair making. For example, I can make an auxiliary table to turn the PantoRouter into the Hoffman dovetail machine.
James OK...which two?? I'd guess the multirouter?is one of them. Dave Davies
Interesting video, two are on my purchase list :)
I removed "expensive" in the subject line, cause I think people on this forum are generally comfortable with this kind of price (not Barth price) for high quality tools.? James
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Lucky,
Google "PantoRouer?Instagram", you can find what people make using PantoRouter. Michael Fortune uses PantoRouter to make his folding chair, it is definitely not pine :)
James
On Sat, Oct 31, 2020 at 7:29 PM David Luckensmeyer < dhluckens@...> wrote: It will be interesting to see what people think of it. I saw it working two years ago when the designer/owner was in Australia. He was/is very friendly and professional.?
The pantorouter is cool and very capable but it did not strike me as particularly robust. A few professional colleagues and I saw it working for several days while we were participating in a masterclass by Michael Fortune.?
I least liked the plastic parts, and wondered whether the system would hold up to regular use. I don’t know. But I’ve yet to see it demonstrated with “proper hardwoods”. More often than not, pine is being used...
That all said, I watched compound angle joinery being made with relative ease. ?Yep, the pantorouter seems to be all the rage at the moment...
?Multirouter is not on the list, PantoRouter and Tormek T8.
I talked To Mac Sheldon, he said he shipped many PantoRouters to US address near the border for Canadian customers, they crossed the border to pick it up. Otherwise, there are extra brokerage fees and duty except the Canadian tax, cause PantoRouter is made in Taiwan. Because of the pandemic, I cannot cross the border now, just have to wait until the pandemic is over.
Having a horizontal mounted router opens lots of possibilities that you cannot do on the router table, not only for the chair making. For example, I can make an auxiliary table to turn the PantoRouter into the Hoffman dovetail machine.
James OK...which two?? I'd guess the multirouter?is one of them. Dave Davies
Interesting video, two are on my purchase list :)
I removed "expensive" in the subject line, cause I think people on this forum are generally comfortable with this kind of price (not Barth price) for high quality tools.? James
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Hey David, I have no qualms about the robustness of the panto router.
Its only the templates that are plastic, and you only contact them with a bearing, so friction and wear is minimal. The rest is aluminium, plenty strong enough.
I've used it so far for M & T on US oak and cherry and it did a good job.
The only qualms I have with the Australian available model, is that it only comes with a router motor that takes 1/4, and 8mm shanks. This limits the size of joints you can cut to small, and medium. 8mm shank, solid carbide, spiral bits in larger sizes are
hard to come by and are expensive.
A model that can take a 1/2" router motor allows you to use larger bits and templates for large joints.
Old style non plunge routers are not very available on the Australian market. The only one available that I know of is the AEG 1/2" model at Bunnings. You would then have to source another appropriately sized motor housing from Pantorouter, and replace the
one that comes with the jig(they make one already for the European market).
As for cutting real hardwoods, with the 1100w motor(standard with the Australian model), like any router they work best when you let the tool cut the way it wants to and not force it. It does a pretty good job.
?Cutting tenons is the slowest, but once you get the technique down it goes pretty quickly. Work in stages rather than go full depth straight away.
The Pantorouter is pretty easy to use, unlike say the Leigh M& T jig. I own both jigs, and If I haven't used the Leigh in a while I really need to re learn how to use it. The Leigh has more template variations, but? practically the PR has got plenty to solve
most? M& T joinery. You can also cut through and sliding dovetails, box joints without buying another jig.
Another strength of the PR is the ability to cut tenons on long pieces of wood eg for lengthwise braces on a trestle table or other long dining table. All you need is a work support for balance. With the Leigh jig you are limited by the height of your bench,
around 4ft max length, unless you build a platform and work from a ladder.
? ? ?Hamish.
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It will be interesting to see what people think of it. I saw it working two years ago when the designer/owner was in Australia. He was/is very friendly and professional.?
The pantorouter is cool and very capable but it did not strike me as particularly robust. A few professional colleagues and I saw it working for several days while we were participating in a masterclass by Michael Fortune.?
I least liked the plastic parts, and wondered whether the system would hold up to regular use. I don’t know. But I’ve yet to see it demonstrated with “proper hardwoods”. More often than not, pine is being used...
That all said, I watched compound angle joinery being made with relative ease.
On 1 Nov 2020, at 8:58 am, habacomike via groups.io <habacomike@...> wrote:
?Yep, the pantorouter seems to be all the rage at the moment...
?Multirouter is not on the list, PantoRouter and Tormek T8.
I talked To Mac Sheldon, he said he shipped many PantoRouters to US address near the border for Canadian customers, they crossed the border to pick it up. Otherwise, there are extra brokerage fees and duty except the Canadian tax, cause PantoRouter
is made in Taiwan. Because of the pandemic, I cannot cross the border now, just have to wait until the pandemic is over.
Having a horizontal mounted router opens lots of possibilities that you cannot do on the router table, not only for the chair making. For example, I can make an auxiliary table to turn the PantoRouter into the Hoffman dovetail machine.
James
OK...which two?? I'd guess the multirouter?is one of them.
Dave Davies
Interesting video, two are on my purchase list :)
I removed "expensive" in the subject line, cause I think people on this forum are generally comfortable with this kind of price (not Barth price) for high quality tools.?
James
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The PantoRouter is a value-engineered (cost-reduced reinterpretation) of the MultiRouter which has been around for decades (and superior build quality in my view). ?In some sense, what they’ve done is analogous to Kreg knocking of Castel in the pocket-hole routing arena. ?The one aspect PantoRouter got right over the MultiRouter is the material table with all the T-slots. ? Some thoughts about that here (which is not exactly how I would approach this today with the availability of slotted extrusions everywhere): ?
A horizontal router with 3-axis articulation can be a very helpful tool for various repetitive joinery tasks like making a set of dining room chairs, and it makes a great compound-angle Domino router if you are accustomed to making CAD drawings of your complex joinery projects. ??
That said, these systems always exclaim the multitude of flexibility and complex projects they can semi-automate. ?However, these type of systems take time to master - similar in some respects to the learning/retention curve for a Leigh Dovetail Jig or the Leigh FMT or the WoodRat. ?Wrapping your head around any of these systems takes effort and patience and practice, and depending on your age, the half-life of the acquired knowledge can be quite short. ?IMO, the benefits are born out with consistent use, or when taking the time to do setups for multiple copies of a project that justify the setup times. ?For the once-a-year one-off project, the reacquaintance with the setups can be frustratingly tedious. ? With the addition of a 3-axis DRO system, my MultiRouter has become even more useful since it provides precise cutter-path control without the restrictions imposed by templates. ??
David Best
https://www.instagram.com/davidpbest/
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?Multirouter is not on the list, PantoRouter and Tormek T8.
I talked To Mac Sheldon, he said he shipped many PantoRouters to US address near the border for Canadian customers, they crossed the border to pick it up. Otherwise, there are extra brokerage fees and duty except the Canadian tax, cause PantoRouter is made in Taiwan. Because of the pandemic, I cannot cross the border now, just have to wait until the pandemic is over.
Having a horizontal mounted router opens lots of possibilities that you cannot do on the router table, not only for the chair making. For example, I can make an auxiliary table to turn the PantoRouter into the Hoffman dovetail machine.
James OK...which two?? I'd guess the multirouter?is one of them. Dave Davies
Interesting video, two are on my purchase list :)
I removed "expensive" in the subject line, cause I think people on this forum are generally comfortable with this kind of price (not Barth price) for high quality tools.? James
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I recently purchased a Pantorouter. My main purpose was to use it if for m&t angled joinery on chairs. My first use was cutting m&t joints (aprons/legs) on a white oak dining table. Once I got it set up and it clicked in my brain, it was very quick and accurate. The templates are slightly angled so you can adjust the fit from loose to super tight. I know what you mean re: robustness but it does not feel flimsy.?is It’s heavy enough that you do not want to move it around. Time will tell how well it will stand up to use but I’m impressed so far.?
Kerry Smith
Gotham Woodworks
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David,
Can you show us the 3-axis DRO on your MultiRouter?
James
The PantoRouter is a value-engineered (cost-reduced reinterpretation) of the MultiRouter which has been around for decades (and superior build quality in my view).? In some sense, what they’ve done is analogous to Kreg knocking of Castel in the pocket-hole routing arena.? The one aspect PantoRouter got right over the MultiRouter is the material table with all the T-slots. ? Some thoughts about that here (which is not exactly how I would approach this today with the availability of slotted extrusions everywhere): ?
A horizontal router with 3-axis articulation can be a very helpful tool for various repetitive joinery tasks like making a set of dining room chairs, and it makes a great compound-angle Domino router if you are accustomed to making CAD drawings of your complex joinery projects. ??
That said, these systems always exclaim the multitude of flexibility and complex projects they can semi-automate.? However, these type of systems take time to master - similar in some respects to the learning/retention curve for a Leigh Dovetail Jig or the Leigh FMT or the WoodRat.? Wrapping your head around any of these systems takes effort and patience and practice, and depending on your age, the half-life of the acquired knowledge can be quite short.? IMO, the benefits are born out with consistent use, or when taking the time to do setups for multiple copies of a project that justify the setup times.? For the once-a-year one-off project, the reacquaintance with the setups can be frustratingly tedious. ? With the addition of a 3-axis DRO system, my MultiRouter has become even more useful since it provides precise cutter-path control without the restrictions imposed by templates. ??
?Multirouter is not on the list, PantoRouter and Tormek T8.
I talked To Mac Sheldon, he said he shipped many PantoRouters to US address near the border for Canadian customers, they crossed the border to pick it up. Otherwise, there are extra brokerage fees and duty except the Canadian tax, cause PantoRouter is made in Taiwan. Because of the pandemic, I cannot cross the border now, just have to wait until the pandemic is over.
Having a horizontal mounted router opens lots of possibilities that you cannot do on the router table, not only for the chair making. For example, I can make an auxiliary table to turn the PantoRouter into the Hoffman dovetail machine.
James OK...which two?? I'd guess the multirouter?is one of them. Dave Davies
Interesting video, two are on my purchase list :)
I removed "expensive" in the subject line, cause I think people on this forum are generally comfortable with this kind of price (not Barth price) for high quality tools.? James
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318-219-7868
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I haven't seen the Pantorouter first hand yet, just all the IG woodworkers using it. As a long time Multirouter user, I agree with David that it looks a little cheap on the build quality. Again, the t slot table is great. I'm intrigued by the motion, like they've replaced the X and Y handles with one. I get how it works for template following, but what about straight up slot mortising? Can it do anything my Multirouters cannot? Jason Holtz
J. Holtz Furniture
3307 Snelling Ave. South
Minneapolis, MN 55406
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Hear you and identify on the long term memory thing.? Mine often lasts only from the bedroom to the bathroom, never until morning.? Dave
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The PantoRouter is a value-engineered (cost-reduced reinterpretation) of the MultiRouter which has been around for decades (and superior build quality in my view). ?In some sense, what
they’ve done is analogous to Kreg knocking of Castel in the pocket-hole routing arena. ?The one aspect PantoRouter got right over the MultiRouter is the material table with all the T-slots. ? Some thoughts about that here (which is not exactly how I would
approach this today with the availability of slotted extrusions everywhere): ?
A horizontal router with 3-axis articulation can be a very helpful tool for various repetitive joinery tasks like making a set of dining room chairs, and it makes a great compound-angle Domino router if you are accustomed to making CAD drawings
of your complex joinery projects. ??
That said, these systems always exclaim the multitude of flexibility and complex projects they can semi-automate. ?However, these type of systems take time to master - similar in some respects to the learning/retention curve for a Leigh Dovetail
Jig or the Leigh FMT or the WoodRat. ?Wrapping your head around any of these systems takes effort and patience and practice, and depending on your age, the half-life of the acquired knowledge can be quite short. ?IMO, the benefits are born out with consistent
use, or when taking the time to do setups for multiple copies of a project that justify the setup times. ?For the once-a-year one-off project, the reacquaintance with the setups can be frustratingly tedious. ? With the addition of a 3-axis DRO system, my MultiRouter
has become even more useful since it provides precise cutter-path control without the restrictions imposed by templates. ??
David Best
https://www.instagram.com/davidpbest/
?Multirouter is not on the list, PantoRouter and Tormek T8.
I talked To Mac Sheldon, he said he shipped many PantoRouters to US address near the border for Canadian customers, they crossed the border to pick it up. Otherwise, there are extra brokerage fees and duty except the Canadian tax, cause PantoRouter
is made in Taiwan. Because of the pandemic, I cannot cross the border now, just have to wait until the pandemic is over.
Having a horizontal mounted router opens lots of possibilities that you cannot do on the router table, not only for the chair making. For example, I can make an auxiliary table to turn the PantoRouter into the Hoffman dovetail machine.
James
OK...which two?? I'd guess the multirouter?is one of them.
Dave Davies
Interesting video, two are on my purchase list :)
I removed "expensive" in the subject line, cause I think people on this forum are generally comfortable with this kind of price (not Barth price) for high quality tools.?
James
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Jason,
PantoRouter is not really a copy of MultiRouter.? Panto Router was invented by Matthias Wandel,?.
It can do straight up slot mortising, just need a slot template. I think it can do anything Multirotor can do. What your MultiRouter cannot do?
James
On Sat, Oct 31, 2020 at 10:38 PM Jason Holtz < jholtzy@...> wrote: I haven't seen the Pantorouter first hand yet, just all the IG woodworkers using it. As a long time Multirouter user, I agree with David that it looks a little cheap on the build quality. Again, the t slot table is great. I'm intrigued by the motion, like they've replaced the X and Y handles with one. I get how it works for template following, but what about straight up slot mortising? Can it do anything my Multirouters cannot? Jason Holtz
J. Holtz Furniture
3307 Snelling Ave. South
Minneapolis, MN 55406
612.432.2765
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James, the next time I pull it out for a project I will more fully document the DRO. ?At the present, the MultiRouter is tucked away in it’s locker to yield room for other projects. ??MultiRouter offers an Accurate ProScale single-axis DRO option for their system that encodes the router elevation but still relies on the rail-stops or templates for the XY table. ? ?I started with that:
That said, there is nothing particularly special about the newer DRO. ?It’s a Newall 3-axis DRO intended for use on a milling machine, and employs their smaller microSyn scales and encoders (). ? One scale encodes the router elevation, the other two encode the XY table position. ?It’s an older generation of the Newall on my knee mill () except that the scales for each axis are 12-inches long and 10 microns instead of 5 micron resolution.??
My Newall is total overkill for a Multirouter, but hey, it’s made in the UK and completely bomb-proof. ?I think the DRO cost more than the base MultiRouter - you know, like Rangate tooling. ? LOL
David Best
https://www.instagram.com/davidpbest/
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David,
Can you show us the 3-axis DRO on your MultiRouter?
James The PantoRouter is a value-engineered (cost-reduced reinterpretation) of the MultiRouter which has been around for decades (and superior build quality in my view).? In some sense, what they’ve done is analogous to Kreg knocking of Castel in the pocket-hole routing arena.? The one aspect PantoRouter got right over the MultiRouter is the material table with all the T-slots. ? Some thoughts about that here (which is not exactly how I would approach this today with the availability of slotted extrusions everywhere): ?
A horizontal router with 3-axis articulation can be a very helpful tool for various repetitive joinery tasks like making a set of dining room chairs, and it makes a great compound-angle Domino router if you are accustomed to making CAD drawings of your complex joinery projects. ??
That said, these systems always exclaim the multitude of flexibility and complex projects they can semi-automate.? However, these type of systems take time to master - similar in some respects to the learning/retention curve for a Leigh Dovetail Jig or the Leigh FMT or the WoodRat.? Wrapping your head around any of these systems takes effort and patience and practice, and depending on your age, the half-life of the acquired knowledge can be quite short.? IMO, the benefits are born out with consistent use, or when taking the time to do setups for multiple copies of a project that justify the setup times.? For the once-a-year one-off project, the reacquaintance with the setups can be frustratingly tedious. ? With the addition of a 3-axis DRO system, my MultiRouter has become even more useful since it provides precise cutter-path control without the restrictions imposed by templates. ??
?Multirouter is not on the list, PantoRouter and Tormek T8.
I talked To Mac Sheldon, he said he shipped many PantoRouters to US address near the border for Canadian customers, they crossed the border to pick it up. Otherwise, there are extra brokerage fees and duty except the Canadian tax, cause PantoRouter is made in Taiwan. Because of the pandemic, I cannot cross the border now, just have to wait until the pandemic is over.
Having a horizontal mounted router opens lots of possibilities that you cannot do on the router table, not only for the chair making. For example, I can make an auxiliary table to turn the PantoRouter into the Hoffman dovetail machine.
James OK...which two?? I'd guess the multirouter?is one of them. Dave Davies
Interesting video, two are on my purchase list :)
I removed "expensive" in the subject line, cause I think people on this forum are generally comfortable with this kind of price (not Barth price) for high quality tools.? James
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I beg to differ. ? Mathias has been resourceful, but he is hardly the inventor of this contraption. ? The guy knocked off the MultiRouter about 8 years ago, first in wood, then it evolved to the current version. ?Lots of people have knocked off the MultiRouter, many well before Mathias was even conceived:
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From 2012: ??
David Best
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Jason,
PantoRouter is not really a copy of MultiRouter.? Panto Router was invented by Matthias Wandel,?.
It can do straight up slot mortising, just need a slot template. I think it can do anything Multirotor can do. What your MultiRouter cannot do?
James
On Sat, Oct 31, 2020 at 10:38 PM Jason Holtz < jholtzy@...> wrote: I haven't seen the Pantorouter first hand yet, just all the IG woodworkers using it. As a long time Multirouter user, I agree with David that it looks a little cheap on the build quality. Again, the t slot table is great. I'm intrigued by the motion, like they've replaced the X and Y handles with one. I get how it works for template following, but what about straight up slot mortising? Can it do anything my Multirouters cannot? Jason Holtz
J. Holtz Furniture
3307 Snelling Ave. South
Minneapolis, MN 55406
612.432.2765
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Jason
J. Holtz Furniture
3307 Snelling Ave. South
Minneapolis, MN 55406
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David,
I had seen all the links you listed before. The unique feature of the Panto Router is the pantograph which scales in X and Y. Yes, it is a horizontal router like MultiRouter. It must be a horizontal router, which eliminates the awful length limit like Leigh FMT has, I believe Leigh FMT will be discontinued eventually. It is stupid and dangerous to use Leight FMT on the ladder or second floor with a hole underneath.
James
I beg to differ. ? Mathias has been resourceful, but he is hardly the inventor of this contraption. ? The guy knocked off the MultiRouter about 8 years ago, first in wood, then it evolved to the current version.? Lots of people have knocked off the MultiRouter, many well before Mathias was even conceived:
?
From 2012: ??
Jason,
PantoRouter is not really a copy of MultiRouter.? Panto Router was invented by Matthias Wandel,?.
It can do straight up slot mortising, just need a slot template. I think it can do anything Multirotor can do. What your MultiRouter cannot do?
James
On Sat, Oct 31, 2020 at 10:38 PM Jason Holtz < jholtzy@...> wrote: I haven't seen the Pantorouter first hand yet, just all the IG woodworkers using it. As a long time Multirouter user, I agree with David that it looks a little cheap on the build quality. Again, the t slot table is great. I'm intrigued by the motion, like they've replaced the X and Y handles with one. I get how it works for template following, but what about straight up slot mortising? Can it do anything my Multirouters cannot? Jason Holtz
J. Holtz Furniture
3307 Snelling Ave. South
Minneapolis, MN 55406
612.432.2765
--
Jason
J. Holtz Furniture
3307 Snelling Ave. South
Minneapolis, MN 55406
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I love the Pantorouter...such a hugely versatile machine. ?I find new ways to use it every time I use it. ?I wanted to use it on my latest project but the Domino seemed like a better choice. ? But yeah, I can’t say enough good about the Pantorouter.?
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On Oct 31, 2020, at 4:58 PM, habacomike via groups.io <habacomike@...> wrote:
? Yep, the pantorouter seems to be all the rage at the moment...
?Multirouter is not on the list, PantoRouter and Tormek T8.
I talked To Mac Sheldon, he said he shipped many PantoRouters to US address near the border for Canadian customers, they crossed the border to pick it up. Otherwise, there are extra brokerage fees and duty except the Canadian tax, cause PantoRouter
is made in Taiwan. Because of the pandemic, I cannot cross the border now, just have to wait until the pandemic is over.
Having a horizontal mounted router opens lots of possibilities that you cannot do on the router table, not only for the chair making. For example, I can make an auxiliary table to turn the PantoRouter into the Hoffman dovetail machine.
James
OK...which two?? I'd guess the multirouter?is one of them.
Dave Davies
Interesting video, two are on my purchase list :)
I removed "expensive" in the subject line, cause I think people on this forum are generally comfortable with this kind of price (not Barth price) for high quality tools.?
James
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318-219-7868
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I have recently been thinking about getting a pantorouter but coming from the multi router it just seams rinky dink however I haven’t put my hands on one seems good enough for hobby work from what I have seen on ig and you tube but I can’t tell if some of the users that rave about in-fact got it for free or at a discount. Just seems like a lot of money for what it is.
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On Nov 1, 2020, at 8:56 AM, Ramon Valdez <valdezfinefurniture@...> wrote:
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I love the Pantorouter...such a hugely versatile machine. ?I find new ways to use it every time I use it. ?I wanted to use it on my latest project but the Domino seemed like a better choice. ? But yeah, I can’t say enough good about the Pantorouter.?
On Oct 31, 2020, at 4:58 PM, habacomike via groups.io <habacomike@...> wrote:
? Yep, the pantorouter seems to be all the rage at the moment...
?Multirouter is not on the list, PantoRouter and Tormek T8.
I talked To Mac Sheldon, he said he shipped many PantoRouters to US address near the border for Canadian customers, they crossed the border to pick it up. Otherwise, there are extra brokerage fees and duty except the Canadian tax, cause PantoRouter
is made in Taiwan. Because of the pandemic, I cannot cross the border now, just have to wait until the pandemic is over.
Having a horizontal mounted router opens lots of possibilities that you cannot do on the router table, not only for the chair making. For example, I can make an auxiliary table to turn the PantoRouter into the Hoffman dovetail machine.
James
OK...which two?? I'd guess the multirouter?is one of them.
Dave Davies
Interesting video, two are on my purchase list :)
I removed "expensive" in the subject line, cause I think people on this forum are generally comfortable with this kind of price (not Barth price) for high quality tools.?
James
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Dave & Marie Davies
318-219-7868
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Has anyone used that disc sander? Dont have one yet for the shop and this looks like an interesting variation with the hand cranking.
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Thanks for all the comments. It has been a very interesting thread. I’m quite interested in the comparisons between the panto router and the multi router, and whether one can do something the other can’t. I have not used either, and my understanding is simply that the one is more robust than the other, and obviously has a very different price tag. Maybe like comparing a Kappa 400 with a Delta Unisaw? (I use that comparison only because I’ve owned and used both very extensively.) They both cut wood, but they are really rather different animals with rather different price tags.
Thanks again,
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I have recently been thinking about getting a pantorouter but coming from the multi router it just seams rinky dink however I haven’t put my hands on one seems good enough for hobby work from what I have seen on ig and you tube but I can’t tell if some of the users that rave about in-fact got it for free or at a discount. Just seems like a lot of money for what it is.
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I love the Pantorouter...such a hugely versatile machine. ?I find new ways to use it every time I use it. ?I wanted to use it on my latest project but the Domino seemed like a better choice. ? But yeah, I can’t say enough good about the Pantorouter.?
? Yep, the pantorouter seems to be all the rage at the moment...
?Multirouter is not on the list, PantoRouter and Tormek T8.
I talked To Mac Sheldon, he said he shipped many PantoRouters to US address near the border for Canadian customers, they crossed the border to pick it up. Otherwise, there are extra brokerage fees and duty except the Canadian tax, cause PantoRouter
is made in Taiwan. Because of the pandemic, I cannot cross the border now, just have to wait until the pandemic is over.
Having a horizontal mounted router opens lots of possibilities that you cannot do on the router table, not only for the chair making. For example, I can make an auxiliary table to turn the PantoRouter into the Hoffman dovetail machine.
James
OK...which two?? I'd guess the multirouter?is one of them.
Dave Davies
Interesting video, two are on my purchase list :)
I removed "expensive" in the subject line, cause I think people on this forum are generally comfortable with this kind of price (not Barth price) for high quality tools.?
James
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