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Shaper as Router


 

So yesterday I needed a roundover on a 1/2 piece of oak so I figured this is great time to try my new F700Z as a router.
First thing I noticed is that the belt will not fit on the lower motor pulley as shown on the placard on the front of the machine where it looks like you'd get 15,000 RPMs.
It will only go on the 3rd one down.
Second is that with the aigner fence, It will not go back far enough to get to the bearing on the top of the roundover bit.
You cannot use the full bit.
I'm wondering if the original Felder fence will facilitate that last 5mm of travel?

Thanks in advance
Bill Bélanger


 

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Bill,

On KF700 router spindle requires it’s own belt.

On KF700 hood a modification is needed that John Kee shared for full or better use of router bits.

Imran

On Jan 20, 2021, at 9:49 AM, Bill Bélanger <Bllblngr@...> wrote:

?So yesterday I needed a roundover on a 1/2 piece of oak so I figured this is great time to try my new F700Z as a router.
First thing I noticed is that the belt will not fit on the lower motor pulley as shown on the placard on the front of the machine where it looks like you'd get 15,000 RPMs.
It will only go on the 3rd one down.
Second is that with the aigner fence, It will not go back far enough to get to the bearing on the top of the roundover bit.
You cannot use the full bit.
I'm wondering if the original Felder fence will facilitate that last 5mm of travel?

Thanks in advance
Bill Bélanger


 

I used to have the thread but saved these images for when I get around to it

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Dave Davies

On Wed, Jan 20, 2021 at 8:54 AM imranindiana via <imranindiana=[email protected]> wrote:
Bill,

On KF700 router spindle requires it’s own belt.

On KF700 hood a modification is needed that John Kee shared for full or better use of router bits.

Imran

On Jan 20, 2021, at 9:49 AM, Bill Bélanger <Bllblngr@...> wrote:

?So yesterday I needed a roundover on a 1/2 piece of oak so I figured this is great time to try my new F700Z as a router.
First thing I noticed is that the belt will not fit on the lower motor pulley as shown on the placard on the front of the machine where it looks like you'd get 15,000 RPMs.
It will only go on the 3rd one down.
Second is that with the aigner fence, It will not go back far enough to get to the bearing on the top of the roundover bit.
You cannot use the full bit.
I'm wondering if the original Felder fence will facilitate that last 5mm of travel?

Thanks in advance
Bill Bélanger



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Dave & Marie Davies

318-219-7868


 

The fact that the Aigner fence is thicker than the original fence is fixable with a modification as per?John Kee's post. I couldn't find John's post. Here is my post on the subject:
/g/felderownersgroup/topic/76701518#109503


 

Thanks Imran. I have the router belt, it only aligns with the third pulley on the motor.
The router spindle is unlike the shaper spindle and has only one pulley built into?it.

I’ll check the threads for John’s mod.

Bill Bélanger?



On Wed, Jan 20, 2021 at 07:54 imranindiana via <imranindiana=[email protected]> wrote:
Bill,

On KF700 router spindle requires it’s own belt.

On KF700 hood a modification is needed that John Kee shared for full or better use of router bits.

Imran

On Jan 20, 2021, at 9:49 AM, Bill Bélanger <Bllblngr@...> wrote:

?So yesterday I needed a roundover on a 1/2 piece of oak so I figured this is great time to try my new F700Z as a router.
First thing I noticed is that the belt will not fit on the lower motor pulley as shown on the placard on the front of the machine where it looks like you'd get 15,000 RPMs.
It will only go on the 3rd one down.
Second is that with the aigner fence, It will not go back far enough to get to the bearing on the top of the roundover bit.
You cannot use the full bit.
I'm wondering if the original Felder fence will facilitate that last 5mm of travel?

Thanks in advance
Bill Bélanger


 

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Bill, if you don’t modify the hood as other described you need to use the Felder plates.? I ordered my machine with the Aigner option and they shipped with the Felder plates too.

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Bill Belanger
Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2021 8:36 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [FOG] Shaper as Router

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Thanks Imran. I have the router belt, it only aligns with the third pulley on the motor.

The router spindle is unlike the shaper spindle and has only one pulley built into?it.

?

I’ll check the threads for John’s mod.

?

Bill Bélanger?

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On Wed, Jan 20, 2021 at 07:54 imranindiana via <imranindiana=[email protected]> wrote:

Bill,

?

On KF700 router spindle requires it’s own belt.

?

On KF700 hood a modification is needed that John Kee shared for full or better use of router bits.

?

Imran


On Jan 20, 2021, at 9:49 AM, Bill Bélanger <Bllblngr@...> wrote:

?So yesterday I needed a roundover on a 1/2 piece of oak so I figured this is great time to try my new F700Z as a router.
First thing I noticed is that the belt will not fit on the lower motor pulley as shown on the placard on the front of the machine where it looks like you'd get 15,000 RPMs.
It will only go on the 3rd one down.
Second is that with the aigner fence, It will not go back far enough to get to the bearing on the top of the roundover bit.
You cannot use the full bit.
I'm wondering if the original Felder fence will facilitate that last 5mm of travel?

Thanks in advance
Bill Bélanger


 

Thanks Joe. Luckily David Best suggested that I keep the stock fence plates when I upgraded, so I still have them.
Since I have a router table, I'm wondering if all the switching time is really worth it. I think not, for most?jobs...

Bill Bélanger

On Wed, Jan 20, 2021 at 9:47 AM Joe Jensen <joe.jensen@...> wrote:

Bill, if you don’t modify the hood as other described you need to use the Felder plates.? I ordered my machine with the Aigner option and they shipped with the Felder plates too.

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Bill Belanger
Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2021 8:36 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [FOG] Shaper as Router

?

Thanks Imran. I have the router belt, it only aligns with the third pulley on the motor.

The router spindle is unlike the shaper spindle and has only one pulley built into?it.

?

I’ll check the threads for John’s mod.

?

Bill Bélanger?

?

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?

On Wed, Jan 20, 2021 at 07:54 imranindiana via <imranindiana=[email protected]> wrote:

Bill,

?

On KF700 router spindle requires it’s own belt.

?

On KF700 hood a modification is needed that John Kee shared for full or better use of router bits.

?

Imran


On Jan 20, 2021, at 9:49 AM, Bill Bélanger <Bllblngr@...> wrote:

?So yesterday I needed a roundover on a 1/2 piece of oak so I figured this is great time to try my new F700Z as a router.
First thing I noticed is that the belt will not fit on the lower motor pulley as shown on the placard on the front of the machine where it looks like you'd get 15,000 RPMs.
It will only go on the 3rd one down.
Second is that with the aigner fence, It will not go back far enough to get to the bearing on the top of the roundover bit.
You cannot use the full bit.
I'm wondering if the original Felder fence will facilitate that last 5mm of travel?

Thanks in advance
Bill Bélanger


 

switching time and then the setup time on the shaper drives most people away from using it...?


 

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I made the simple mod to the hood. I may drill and tap additional holes to get the fence over even further.? I have always hated routers and always had a shaper so my view is skewed ?

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Bill Belanger
Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2021 11:27 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [FOG] Shaper as Router

?

Thanks Joe. Luckily David Best suggested that I keep the stock fence plates when I upgraded, so I still have them.

Since I have a router table, I'm wondering if all the switching time is really worth it. I think not, for most?jobs...

?

Bill Bélanger

?

On Wed, Jan 20, 2021 at 9:47 AM Joe Jensen <joe.jensen@...> wrote:

Bill, if you don’t modify the hood as other described you need to use the Felder plates.? I ordered my machine with the Aigner option and they shipped with the Felder plates too.

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Bill Belanger
Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2021 8:36 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [FOG] Shaper as Router

?

Thanks Imran. I have the router belt, it only aligns with the third pulley on the motor.

The router spindle is unlike the shaper spindle and has only one pulley built into?it.

?

I’ll check the threads for John’s mod.

?

Bill Bélanger?

?

?

?

On Wed, Jan 20, 2021 at 07:54 imranindiana via <imranindiana=[email protected]> wrote:

Bill,

?

On KF700 router spindle requires it’s own belt.

?

On KF700 hood a modification is needed that John Kee shared for full or better use of router bits.

?

Imran


On Jan 20, 2021, at 9:49 AM, Bill Bélanger <Bllblngr@...> wrote:

?So yesterday I needed a roundover on a 1/2 piece of oak so I figured this is great time to try my new F700Z as a router.
First thing I noticed is that the belt will not fit on the lower motor pulley as shown on the placard on the front of the machine where it looks like you'd get 15,000 RPMs.
It will only go on the 3rd one down.
Second is that with the aigner fence, It will not go back far enough to get to the bearing on the top of the roundover bit.
You cannot use the full bit.
I'm wondering if the original Felder fence will facilitate that last 5mm of travel?

Thanks in advance
Bill Bélanger