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Kevin,? Is it more than twice as good as my Virutex lipping planer? I use that machine quite a bit and have very little complaints about it.
Jason Holtz
J. Holtz Furniture
3307 Snelling Ave. South
Minneapolis, MN 55406
612.432.2765 -- Jason J. Holtz Furniture 3307 Snelling Ave. South Minneapolis, MN 55406
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As an owner of both the virutex and cantex, the adjustment mechanism on the cantex is superior. If you’ve ever used a top 21 it’s the same idea. The virutex is a guess and check.?
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I put hardwood edges on all panels that I veneer and any veneered plywood. The Cantex is awesome.?
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?As an owner of both the virutex and cantex, the adjustment mechanism on the cantex is superior. If you’ve ever used a top 21 it’s the same idea. The virutex is a guess and check.?
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Hi Joe Jensen,
Looks to be a nice tool to have for hardwood edge-banding. ?Have you ever tested with melamine too? ?Which model do you have? ?Did a quick research, but can’t find anyone who has them.
Thx,
Wade
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On Feb 1, 2024, at 10:16 AM, Joe Jensen <joe@...> wrote:
? I put hardwood edges on all panels that I veneer and any veneered plywood. The Cantex is awesome.? On Feb 1, 2024, at 7:12?AM, Jack Decker via groups.io <vernaculardesign@...> wrote:
?As an owner of both the virutex and cantex, the adjustment mechanism on the cantex is superior. If you’ve ever used a top 21 it’s the same idea. The virutex is a guess and check.?
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Wade,
Lamello Cantex was discontinued in 2018, it appears that Lamello did not sell this specialty tool a lot. It is a great tool for sure, just like other tools made by Lamello. Clearly Lamello is doing well selling Zeta P2 and its connectors.
Believe it or not, it was cheaper buying Cantex in Canada than in the USA before. It was CAD$ 1850 in 2015, I almost pulled the trigger to buy it.
There are alternative ways of trimming the hardwood edge banding. You can modify Festool MFK like Paul Marcel did?. Using this router bit?, you can trim up to 25mm wide edge banding. Of course, you do not want to remove like 5mm thick material using the router bit, but 1 or 2 mm should be just fine.
James
Hi Joe Jensen,
Looks to be a nice tool to have for hardwood edge-banding.? Have you ever tested with melamine too?? Which model do you have?? Did a quick research, but can’t find anyone who has them.
Thx,
Wade
On Feb 1, 2024, at 10:16 AM, Joe Jensen <joe@...> wrote:
? I put hardwood edges on all panels that I veneer and any veneered plywood. The Cantex is awesome.? On Feb 1, 2024, at 7:12?AM, Jack Decker via <vernaculardesign=[email protected]> wrote:
?As an owner of both the virutex and cantex, the adjustment mechanism on the cantex is superior. If you’ve ever used a top 21 it’s the same idea. The virutex is a guess and check.?
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As far as I know I have the same as pictured. ?Mine came in a birch box with a fence. The cutters are carbide I think. I don’t use melamine. It would do the tape for melamine but it would leave a sharp 90 degree edge.?
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On Feb 1, 2024, at 12:01?PM, Wade Dees <wjdsignature@...> wrote:
? Hi Joe Jensen,
Looks to be a nice tool to have for hardwood edge-banding. ?Have you ever tested with melamine too? ?Which model do you have? ?Did a quick research, but can’t find anyone who has them.
Thx,
Wade
On Feb 1, 2024, at 10:16 AM, Joe Jensen <joe@...> wrote:
? I put hardwood edges on all panels that I veneer and any veneered plywood. The Cantex is awesome.? On Feb 1, 2024, at 7:12?AM, Jack Decker via groups.io <vernaculardesign@...> wrote:
?As an owner of both the virutex and cantex, the adjustment mechanism on the cantex is superior. If you’ve ever used a top 21 it’s the same idea. The virutex is a guess and check.?
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Joe,
I was thinking more along the lines of a hardwood edge applied to the melamine and then running the machine along to flush it up without marring the melamine face.
Thx,
Wade
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On Feb 1, 2024, at 1:59 PM, Joe Jensen <joe@...> wrote:
? As far as I know I have the same as pictured. ?Mine came in a birch box with a fence. The cutters are carbide I think. I don’t use melamine. It would do the tape for melamine but it would leave a sharp 90 degree edge.?
On Feb 1, 2024, at 12:01?PM, Wade Dees <wjdsignature@...> wrote:
? Hi Joe Jensen,
Looks to be a nice tool to have for hardwood edge-banding. ?Have you ever tested with melamine too? ?Which model do you have? ?Did a quick research, but can’t find anyone who has them.
Thx,
Wade
On Feb 1, 2024, at 10:16 AM, Joe Jensen <joe@...> wrote:
? I put hardwood edges on all panels that I veneer and any veneered plywood. The Cantex is awesome.? On Feb 1, 2024, at 7:12?AM, Jack Decker via groups.io <vernaculardesign@...> wrote:
?As an owner of both the virutex and cantex, the adjustment mechanism on the cantex is superior. If you’ve ever used a top 21 it’s the same idea. The virutex is a guess and check.?
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Hi James,
That’s too bad they stopped making this. ?What an awesome tool. ?I wonder if parts will be hard to get if production has stopped as well? ?I’ve watch a few videos now and it’s impressive anyways!
Thx,
Wade
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On Feb 1, 2024, at 11:31 AM, James Zhu <james.zhu2@...> wrote:
? Wade,
Lamello Cantex was discontinued in 2018, it appears that Lamello did not sell this specialty tool a lot. It is a great tool for sure, just like other tools made by Lamello. Clearly Lamello is doing well selling Zeta P2 and its connectors.
Believe it or not, it was cheaper buying Cantex in Canada than in the USA before. It was CAD$ 1850 in 2015, I almost pulled the trigger to buy it.
There are alternative ways of trimming the hardwood edge banding. You can modify Festool MFK like Paul Marcel did?. Using this router bit?, you can trim up to 25mm wide edge banding. Of course, you do not want to remove like 5mm thick material using the router bit, but 1 or 2 mm should be just fine.
James Hi Joe Jensen,
Looks to be a nice tool to have for hardwood edge-banding.? Have you ever tested with melamine too?? Which model do you have?? Did a quick research, but can’t find anyone who has them.
Thx,
Wade
On Feb 1, 2024, at 10:16 AM, Joe Jensen <joe@...> wrote:
? I put hardwood edges on all panels that I veneer and any veneered plywood. The Cantex is awesome.? On Feb 1, 2024, at 7:12?AM, Jack Decker via <vernaculardesign=[email protected]> wrote:
?As an owner of both the virutex and cantex, the adjustment mechanism on the cantex is superior. If you’ve ever used a top 21 it’s the same idea. The virutex is a guess and check.?
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I bought replacement knives for my Cantex last year from??which is the importer for the USA. ?I’ve had mine for 20+ years and it is one of the most enjoyable and well built tools in my shop. ? David Best - via mobile phone?
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? Hi James,
That’s too bad they stopped making this. ?What an awesome tool. ?I wonder if parts will be hard to get if production has stopped as well? ?I’ve watch a few videos now and it’s impressive anyways!
Thx,
Wade On Feb 1, 2024, at 11:31 AM, James Zhu <james.zhu2@...> wrote:
? Wade,
Lamello Cantex was discontinued in 2018, it appears that Lamello did not sell this specialty tool a lot. It is a great tool for sure, just like other tools made by Lamello. Clearly Lamello is doing well selling Zeta P2 and its connectors.
Believe it or not, it was cheaper buying Cantex in Canada than in the USA before. It was CAD$ 1850 in 2015, I almost pulled the trigger to buy it.
There are alternative ways of trimming the hardwood edge banding. You can modify Festool MFK like Paul Marcel did?. Using this router bit?, you can trim up to 25mm wide edge banding. Of course, you do not want to remove like 5mm thick material using the router bit, but 1 or 2 mm should be just fine.
James Hi Joe Jensen,
Looks to be a nice tool to have for hardwood edge-banding.? Have you ever tested with melamine too?? Which model do you have?? Did a quick research, but can’t find anyone who has them.
Thx,
Wade
On Feb 1, 2024, at 10:16 AM, Joe Jensen <joe@...> wrote:
? I put hardwood edges on all panels that I veneer and any veneered plywood. The Cantex is awesome.? On Feb 1, 2024, at 7:12?AM, Jack Decker via <vernaculardesign=[email protected]> wrote:
?As an owner of both the virutex and cantex, the adjustment mechanism on the cantex is superior. If you’ve ever used a top 21 it’s the same idea. The virutex is a guess and check.?
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Talk to Chris Hoffman at colonial saw. Still some parts Available and the carbide blades should be available indefinitely? Jack Decker
Vernacular Design
518 567 2051
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On Feb 1, 2024, at 7:56?PM, David P. Best <dbestworkshop@...> wrote:
? I bought replacement knives for my Cantex last year from??which is the importer for the USA. ?I’ve had mine for 20+ years and it is one of the most enjoyable and well built tools in my shop. ? David Best - via mobile phone? On Feb 1, 2024, at 4:37?PM, Wade Dees <wjdsignature@...> wrote:
? Hi James,
That’s too bad they stopped making this. ?What an awesome tool. ?I wonder if parts will be hard to get if production has stopped as well? ?I’ve watch a few videos now and it’s impressive anyways!
Thx,
Wade On Feb 1, 2024, at 11:31 AM, James Zhu <james.zhu2@...> wrote:
? Wade,
Lamello Cantex was discontinued in 2018, it appears that Lamello did not sell this specialty tool a lot. It is a great tool for sure, just like other tools made by Lamello. Clearly Lamello is doing well selling Zeta P2 and its connectors.
Believe it or not, it was cheaper buying Cantex in Canada than in the USA before. It was CAD$ 1850 in 2015, I almost pulled the trigger to buy it.
There are alternative ways of trimming the hardwood edge banding. You can modify Festool MFK like Paul Marcel did?. Using this router bit?, you can trim up to 25mm wide edge banding. Of course, you do not want to remove like 5mm thick material using the router bit, but 1 or 2 mm should be just fine.
James Hi Joe Jensen,
Looks to be a nice tool to have for hardwood edge-banding.? Have you ever tested with melamine too?? Which model do you have?? Did a quick research, but can’t find anyone who has them.
Thx,
Wade
On Feb 1, 2024, at 10:16 AM, Joe Jensen <joe@...> wrote:
? I put hardwood edges on all panels that I veneer and any veneered plywood. The Cantex is awesome.? On Feb 1, 2024, at 7:12?AM, Jack Decker via <vernaculardesign=[email protected]> wrote:
?As an owner of both the virutex and cantex, the adjustment mechanism on the cantex is superior. If you’ve ever used a top 21 it’s the same idea. The virutex is a guess and check.?
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? Wade I have to lamelo a biscuit joiner and a boat patcher both over 50 years old,’ Never replaced anything on them they habe clutches so if you hit a screw or such it slips and save s the cutter.? I think my Hebor /Hoffman lipper is also 50 years old . Mac,,
Designing and building for 50 years
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On Feb 1, 2024, at 7:40?PM, Jack Decker via groups.io <vernaculardesign@...> wrote:
? Talk to Chris Hoffman at colonial saw. Still some parts Available and the carbide blades should be available indefinitely? Jack Decker
Vernacular Design
518 567 2051
On Feb 1, 2024, at 7:56?PM, David P. Best <dbestworkshop@...> wrote:
? I bought replacement knives for my Cantex last year from??which is the importer for the USA. ?I’ve had mine for 20+ years and it is one of the most enjoyable and well built tools in my shop. ? David Best - via mobile phone? On Feb 1, 2024, at 4:37?PM, Wade Dees <wjdsignature@...> wrote:
? Hi James,
That’s too bad they stopped making this. ?What an awesome tool. ?I wonder if parts will be hard to get if production has stopped as well? ?I’ve watch a few videos now and it’s impressive anyways!
Thx,
Wade On Feb 1, 2024, at 11:31 AM, James Zhu <james.zhu2@...> wrote:
? Wade,
Lamello Cantex was discontinued in 2018, it appears that Lamello did not sell this specialty tool a lot. It is a great tool for sure, just like other tools made by Lamello. Clearly Lamello is doing well selling Zeta P2 and its connectors.
Believe it or not, it was cheaper buying Cantex in Canada than in the USA before. It was CAD$ 1850 in 2015, I almost pulled the trigger to buy it.
There are alternative ways of trimming the hardwood edge banding. You can modify Festool MFK like Paul Marcel did?. Using this router bit?, you can trim up to 25mm wide edge banding. Of course, you do not want to remove like 5mm thick material using the router bit, but 1 or 2 mm should be just fine.
James Hi Joe Jensen,
Looks to be a nice tool to have for hardwood edge-banding.? Have you ever tested with melamine too?? Which model do you have?? Did a quick research, but can’t find anyone who has them.
Thx,
Wade
On Feb 1, 2024, at 10:16 AM, Joe Jensen <joe@...> wrote:
? I put hardwood edges on all panels that I veneer and any veneered plywood. The Cantex is awesome.? On Feb 1, 2024, at 7:12?AM, Jack Decker via <vernaculardesign=[email protected]> wrote:
?As an owner of both the virutex and cantex, the adjustment mechanism on the cantex is superior. If you’ve ever used a top 21 it’s the same idea. The virutex is a guess and check.?
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The Cantex handles this easily. ?I’ve used it to hardwood edge Formica tops.?
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On Feb 1, 2024, at 3:31?PM, Wade Dees <wjdsignature@...> wrote:
? Joe,
I was thinking more along the lines of a hardwood edge applied to the melamine and then running the machine along to flush it up without marring the melamine face.
Thx,
Wade On Feb 1, 2024, at 1:59 PM, Joe Jensen <joe@...> wrote:
? As far as I know I have the same as pictured. ?Mine came in a birch box with a fence. The cutters are carbide I think. I don’t use melamine. It would do the tape for melamine but it would leave a sharp 90 degree edge.?
On Feb 1, 2024, at 12:01?PM, Wade Dees <wjdsignature@...> wrote:
? Hi Joe Jensen,
Looks to be a nice tool to have for hardwood edge-banding. ?Have you ever tested with melamine too? ?Which model do you have? ?Did a quick research, but can’t find anyone who has them.
Thx,
Wade
On Feb 1, 2024, at 10:16 AM, Joe Jensen <joe@...> wrote:
? I put hardwood edges on all panels that I veneer and any veneered plywood. The Cantex is awesome.? On Feb 1, 2024, at 7:12?AM, Jack Decker via groups.io <vernaculardesign@...> wrote:
?As an owner of both the virutex and cantex, the adjustment mechanism on the cantex is superior. If you’ve ever used a top 21 it’s the same idea. The virutex is a guess and check.?
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Mac?
I went down this rabbit hole in the past, the Hebor/Hoffman has been discontinued long enough that most parts are no longer supported. If memory serves correct there was some issue with the motor supplier that ruined what many say was the best lipping planer ever. The cantex is great, but it's a different approach for sure. The Virutex seems like the closest thing to the Hebor/Hoffmann knockoff? on could get today.
-Brett
?Wade I have to lamelo a biscuit joiner and a boat patcher both over 50 years old,’ Never replaced anything on them they habe clutches so if you hit a screw or such it slips and save s the cutter.? I think my Hebor /Hoffman lipper is also 50 years old . Mac,,
Designing and building for 50 years On Feb 1, 2024, at 7:40?PM, Jack Decker via <vernaculardesign=[email protected]> wrote:
?Talk to Chris Hoffman at colonial saw. Still some parts Available and the carbide blades should be available indefinitely? Jack Decker
Vernacular Design
518 567 2051
?I bought replacement knives for my Cantex last year from??which is the importer for the USA.? I’ve had mine for 20+ years and it is one of the most enjoyable and well built tools in my shop. ? David Best - via mobile phone? ? Hi James,
That’s too bad they stopped making this.? What an awesome tool.? I wonder if parts will be hard to get if production has stopped as well?? I’ve watch a few videos now and it’s impressive anyways!
Thx,
Wade ? Wade,
Lamello Cantex was discontinued in 2018, it appears that Lamello did not sell this specialty tool a lot. It is a great tool for sure, just like other tools made by Lamello. Clearly Lamello is doing well selling Zeta P2 and its connectors.
Believe it or not, it was cheaper buying Cantex in Canada than in the USA before. It was CAD$ 1850 in 2015, I almost pulled the trigger to buy it.
There are alternative ways of trimming the hardwood edge banding. You can modify Festool MFK like Paul Marcel did?. Using this router bit?, you can trim up to 25mm wide edge banding. Of course, you do not want to remove like 5mm thick material using the router bit, but 1 or 2 mm should be just fine.
James Hi Joe Jensen,
Looks to be a nice tool to have for hardwood edge-banding.? Have you ever tested with melamine too?? Which model do you have?? Did a quick research, but can’t find anyone who has them.
Thx,
Wade
On Feb 1, 2024, at 10:16 AM, Joe Jensen <joe@...> wrote:
? I put hardwood edges on all panels that I veneer and any veneered plywood. The Cantex is awesome.? On Feb 1, 2024, at 7:12?AM, Jack Decker via <vernaculardesign=[email protected]> wrote:
?As an owner of both the virutex and cantex, the adjustment mechanism on the cantex is superior. If you’ve ever used a top 21 it’s the same idea. The virutex is a guess and check.?
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Has anyone tried the festool MFK router with horizontal base for edge flushing?  --
Larry Long Neck
Just a noob trying to learn the ways of wood
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I have tried this - it does work but I ended up with a virtex. this stays adjusted and works well.
Has anyone tried the festool MFK router with horizontal base for edge flushing?
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Larry Long Neck
Just a noob trying to learn the ways of wood
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Michael Marsico
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Larry - I did look into this MFK last year sometime when I had to flush trim a 3/4" thick banding board.? The problem is the bit length is limited to 5/8" (16mm), so it would not be able to do the job.? Based on the machine design, it's really only a flush trim for veneer or edge banding.? I could have bought an OF1010 router along with the Edging Plate UP-OF + Angle Arm WA-OF.? In the end, I have a friend bring over a No. 7 jointer plane and No. 5 jack plane to flush trim that board and it worked out excellent!?? This is the way I'm going to flush trim these types of boards in the future.
Michael - I looked at the Virutex Electronic Tiltable Trimmer FR292R.? It looks like it supports up to a 20mm straight bit (0.78") and it's cheaper!? If I end up doing edge banding, this might be the tool.? The hand planes may risk pulling off any super thin edge banding, but at that point you just want to use a razor cutter, lol.
-Aaron
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I have a Cantex. ?Quality product. ?They do not come up for sale often (think Aigner Distometer and outboard fence - thickness stop), and that is something to consider for the person who has an interest.
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Hi Larry,
It's my go to, just make sure you check out the video on festool live on how to set it up correctly.?
Jim
Has anyone tried the festool MFK router with horizontal base for edge flushing?
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Larry Long Neck
Just a noob trying to learn the ways of wood
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Jason Holtz
Jack Decker
Joe Jensen
David P. Best
Larry Long Neck
Jim Synyard