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Newer to sliders and have a Hammer K3, guess I need to figure out my options are on Fritz Fran jigs.? Are all these homemade or are there manufacturers out there?
Thanks Ray
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Felder sells one made by RUWI for Hammer as well, but it is quite expensive, especially since a basic version can be made very cheap by oneselves.
https://www.felder-group.com/nl-nl/shop/klemming-en-zaagsysteem-sets-sc123879/klem-en-zaagsysteem-sp610918
On Mar 9, 2022 07:41, SirRey <sirrey@...> wrote: Newer to sliders and have a Hammer K3, guess I need to figure out my options are on Fritz Fran jigs.? Are all these homemade or are there manufacturers out there?
Thanks Ray
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I’ve heard that fellow by the name of Bedrosian sells one. I am not sure how a person finds one, or what they cost. I admit I have not looked that hard.
I plan to make one today. The first attempt will be pretty basic, I suspect. Once I get a little experience I may revise it with some of the flip stops, hold-downs, grip surfaces, etc that I see in some of the YouTube videos.
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John Hinman
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On Mar 9, 2022, at 9:42 AM, John Hinman <jhinman1911@...> wrote:
?I’ve heard that fellow by the name of Bedrosian sells one. I am not sure how a person finds one, or what they cost. I admit I have not looked that hard.
I plan to make one today. The first attempt will be pretty basic, I suspect. Once I get a little experience I may revise it with some of the flip stops, hold-downs, grip surfaces, etc that I see in some of the YouTube videos.
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John Hinman
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K700S, and expecting an A941 in April 2022
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Suggestion is to make a basic one first, learn from usage of that and decide if it's worthwhile to either buy a commercially available one or develop a version better suited for one's needs and use-cases.?
F&F, I have found, is a somewhat personal tool and there are many variations to it.?
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I built a very basic one. It has worked well for me and I keep saying I build a better one. But since the basic one does what I need it to do I have yet to build a better nicer one.
I have seen some very nice and very over engineered ones here. But I guess that is what we Felder owners do.
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Did you find plans somewhere or just make one up??
I built a very basic one. It has worked well for me and I keep saying I build a better one. But since the basic one does what I need it to do I have yet to build a better nicer one.
I have seen some very nice and very over engineered ones here. But I guess that is what we Felder owners do.
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David? Bedrosian's?jig is very well made if you're looking for a manufactured jig.He is pleasant to do business with also.?
Tim House
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Bought one from David also and I’m very happy with it. We use it everyday?
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I read through this when I made my first version:
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On Wed, Mar 9, 2022 at 04:19 PM, SirRey wrote:
Did you find plans somewhere or just make one up??
I built a very basic one. It has worked well for me and I keep saying I build a better one. But since the basic one does what I need it to do I have yet to build a better nicer one.
I have seen some very nice and very over engineered ones here. But I guess that is what we Felder owners do.
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Could one of you post a picture of your jig plus the contact information please? How much does it cost?
Thanks,
Ed Cohen? E. Cohen Designs?
On Wed, Mar 9, 2022, 9:04 PM Jack Decker via <vernaculardesign= [email protected]> wrote: Bought one from David also and I’m very happy with it. We use it everyday?
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This is the most basic of all F&F jigs. Cost is almost nothing. This will help me make a better/fancier version. If you want a Bedrosian version, you can reach him through Instagram.  -- John Hinman Boise ID K700S, and expecting an A941 in April 2022
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Same here. I bought the?Bedrosian FF for my K3 then modified (new slot) it for my KF700. It is a very well made kit with solid flip stops. Made a holster for it modeled after what I saw on Mark Kessler’s saw on IG.
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This was my first F&F attempt. I left out the rail as I wanted flexibility for angled cuts. I also introduced Kipp levers to fasten the clamps down, after applying some forward pressure on the workpiece, to eliminate the need to push the stock towards the x-cut fence. The various holes were intended to allow for different handle positions.? I think it worked ok but F&F is best suited for straight cuts, IMO.? With my workspace constraints, I now try my best to keep the large x-cut fence and outrigger stowed, so this previous F&F design limits me somewhat.? Once I began using pneumatic clamps, F&F became less necessary.?  
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That’s a really nice setup! In my Case it might soon become a junk collector though. ? Bill B
On Thu, Mar 10, 2022 at 10:09 Stan Blaszczyk < blaszcsj@...> wrote: Same here. I bought the?Bedrosian FF for my K3 then modified (new slot) it for my KF700. It is a very well made kit with solid flip stops. Made a holster for it modeled after what I saw on Mark Kessler’s saw on IG.
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Thanks for the interest in my Fritz and Franz jig.? If you are on Instagram, you can see all of my related posts on the jig by searching for the tag #BedrosianFritzandFranz.? You can DM me on Instagram if you would like to place an order.? If you are not on Instagram, you can contact me at BedrosianWoodworks@....In addition to selling the completed jig, I also have detailed plans if you would like to build the jig yourself. David
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For those of you that are not on Instagram, you can watch a YouTube video showing my jig done by Ramon Valdez --??
While you are on Ramon's page, you should check out some of his other videos and you will see that he is an incredible craftsperson.
David
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Like many others, I made and used a F&F jig soon after sliding down the slider hole with my K3. Over time, I found that I much preferred the precision and versatility of a parallel fence ...  [img]http://www.inthewoodshop.com/Powered%20Tools%20and%20Machinery/ParallelGuideForK3Slider_html_1fdf2a4a.jpg[/img] Link:?? Regards from Perth Derek
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Wow Derek, is that NASA issued model? ??
Wade
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On Mar 10, 2022, at 2:22 PM, Derek Cohen <derekcohen@...> wrote:
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Like many others, I made and used a F&F jig soon after sliding down the slider hole with my K3. Over time, I found that I much preferred the precision and versatility of a parallel fence ... [img]http://www.inthewoodshop.com/Powered%20Tools%20and%20Machinery/ParallelGuideForK3Slider_html_1fdf2a4a.jpg[/img] Link:?? Regards from Perth Derek
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How is that used to cut small pieces, like cross-cutting a 1”x1”x 2” long piece (i have cut them smaller than that - Not seeing it, David Bedrosian ff or ones like it are perfect for that. ?Suppose its good for tapers but you really only need a flip stop and parallel guide like what Brian or Felder makes or a diy.?
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Like many others, I made and used a F&F jig soon after sliding down the slider hole with my K3. Over time, I found that I much preferred the precision and versatility of a parallel fence ... [img]http://www.inthewoodshop.com/Powered%20Tools%20and%20Machinery/ParallelGuideForK3Slider_html_1fdf2a4a.jpg[/img] Link:?? Regards from Perth Derek
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