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This has bugged me forever, but i never asked anyone about it. Last night i used my 2005 KF700 for a bit, and the rip fence lever is absurdly stubborn to lift up on. One, i find the stubby plastic handle to be uncomfortable and too short to apply/unapply pressure. Two, once its locked, it is always a two-handed approach to undo the fence--left hand on top of the fence head, right hand yanking up on the handle--which almost always results in me smacking my right hand off the fence body when the lever finally lets loose. Ive owned 2 unifences, 2-3 biesemeyer fences, one VSCT fence, and a Martin T17 fence. Of them all, the VSCT and Martin have the best/most satisfying locking/unlocking action. The others were fine, and absolutely none were like this felder fence. Is this specific to me and something i can adjust, or is this just how the fence operates? Has anyone replaced the handle of their rip fence to something longer for greater leverage? The operation of the fence is perfectly fine, and it stays put once its locked, but the ergonomics couldnt?suck more.?
Patrick
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On mine I can release the lever with one hand. While is a new saw than yours I'm not sure if the changed something, but I have to imagine that there is someway to adjust the tension. Since seems to work okay I've never really look at it closely enough to notice if any adjustment was possible.
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Patrick,
I had the same issue with my CF 741 2008 model. I couldn't open the rip fence lever and almost broke the handle using my both hands. On next time , I had the same issue, I noticed that the lever is not inserted deep inside the hole and the eccentric end of the lever shaft jummed? at the edge of the P channel. It could be you had the same issue.
Alex Zoric
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-------- Original message -------- From: Patrick Kane <pwk5017@...> Date: 16/12/2020 17:04 (GMT+01:00) Subject: [FOG] Felder KF700 Rip Fence Lever
This has bugged me forever, but i never asked anyone about it. Last night i used my 2005 KF700 for a bit, and the rip fence lever is absurdly stubborn to lift up on. One, i find the stubby plastic handle to be uncomfortable and too short to apply/unapply pressure. Two, once its locked, it is always a two-handed approach to undo the fence--left hand on top of the fence head, right hand yanking up on the handle--which almost always results in me smacking my right hand off the fence body when the lever finally lets loose. Ive owned 2 unifences, 2-3 biesemeyer fences, one VSCT fence, and a Martin T17 fence. Of them all, the VSCT and Martin have the best/most satisfying locking/unlocking action. The others were fine, and absolutely none were like this felder fence. Is this specific to me and something i can adjust, or is this just how the fence operates? Has anyone replaced the handle of their rip fence to something longer for greater leverage? The operation of the fence is perfectly fine, and it stays put once its locked, but the ergonomics couldnt?suck more.?
Patrick
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Interesting, i really do need to take the fence off and have a look at it. It wasnt my only/primary saw until recently, and i admit my laziness never allowed for me to delve into it deeply. Now it is my only table saw and im using the rip fence much much more.?
My rip fence system is different from yours. Mine is mounted to a round bar. Looks like the 2020 KF700 has the same/similar fence.
Patrick
Patrick,
I had the same issue with my CF 741 2008 model. I couldn't open the rip fence lever and almost broke the handle using my both hands. On next time , I had the same issue, I noticed that the lever is not inserted deep inside the hole and the eccentric end of the lever shaft jummed? at the edge of the P channel. It could be you had the same issue.
Alex Zoric
-------- Original message -------- Date: 16/12/2020 17:04 (GMT+01:00) Subject: [FOG] Felder KF700 Rip Fence Lever
This has bugged me forever, but i never asked anyone about it. Last night i used my 2005 KF700 for a bit, and the rip fence lever is absurdly stubborn to lift up on. One, i find the stubby plastic handle to be uncomfortable and too short to apply/unapply pressure. Two, once its locked, it is always a two-handed approach to undo the fence--left hand on top of the fence head, right hand yanking up on the handle--which almost always results in me smacking my right hand off the fence body when the lever finally lets loose. Ive owned 2 unifences, 2-3 biesemeyer fences, one VSCT fence, and a Martin T17 fence. Of them all, the VSCT and Martin have the best/most satisfying locking/unlocking action. The others were fine, and absolutely none were like this felder fence. Is this specific to me and something i can adjust, or is this just how the fence operates? Has anyone replaced the handle of their rip fence to something longer for greater leverage? The operation of the fence is perfectly fine, and it stays put once its locked, but the ergonomics couldnt?suck more.?
Patrick
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I used to push the lever all the way down to lock like I did with Biesemeyer fences.? Hard to get all the way down and hard to lift. Lately I’ve just
pushed down less and it seems as solidly locked.? Also never hard to lift that way.? That said I too have wondered about tension and does one need to press all the way down to be secure?
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Subject: [FOG] Felder KF700 Rip Fence Lever
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This has bugged me forever, but i never asked anyone about it. Last night i used my 2005 KF700 for a bit, and the rip fence lever is absurdly stubborn to lift up on. One, i find the stubby plastic handle to be uncomfortable and too short
to apply/unapply pressure. Two, once its locked, it is always a two-handed approach to undo the fence--left hand on top of the fence head, right hand yanking up on the handle--which almost always results in me smacking my right hand off the fence body when
the lever finally lets loose. Ive owned 2 unifences, 2-3 biesemeyer fences, one VSCT fence, and a Martin T17 fence. Of them all, the VSCT and Martin have the best/most satisfying locking/unlocking action. The others were fine, and absolutely none were like
this felder fence. Is this specific to me and something i can adjust, or is this just how the fence operates? Has anyone replaced the handle of their rip fence to something longer for greater leverage? The operation of the fence is perfectly fine, and it stays
put once its locked, but the ergonomics couldnt?suck more.?
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I seem to recall that my rip fence was tighter than my liking early on. this is 19 yrs ago so do not recall what i did. never had an issues since. i have removed the rip fence and the bar since it is only a shaper now but the fence housing is laying on the table. when i am in shop later, i will take a look. i seem to recall that the cam portion of the lever forces a plate into the round bar.
Imran
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On Dec 16, 2020, at 1:37 PM, Patrick Kane <pwk5017@...> wrote: ? Interesting, i really do need to take the fence off and have a look at it. It wasnt my only/primary saw until recently, and i admit my laziness never allowed for me to delve into it deeply. Now it is my only table saw and im using the rip fence much much more.?
My rip fence system is different from yours. Mine is mounted to a round bar. Looks like the 2020 KF700 has the same/similar fence.
Patrick Patrick,
I had the same issue with my CF 741 2008 model. I couldn't open the rip fence lever and almost broke the handle using my both hands. On next time , I had the same issue, I noticed that the lever is not inserted deep inside the hole and the eccentric end of the lever shaft jummed? at the edge of the P channel. It could be you had the same issue.
Alex Zoric
-------- Original message -------- Date: 16/12/2020 17:04 (GMT+01:00) Subject: [FOG] Felder KF700 Rip Fence Lever
This has bugged me forever, but i never asked anyone about it. Last night i used my 2005 KF700 for a bit, and the rip fence lever is absurdly stubborn to lift up on. One, i find the stubby plastic handle to be uncomfortable and too short to apply/unapply pressure. Two, once its locked, it is always a two-handed approach to undo the fence--left hand on top of the fence head, right hand yanking up on the handle--which almost always results in me smacking my right hand off the fence body when the lever finally lets loose. Ive owned 2 unifences, 2-3 biesemeyer fences, one VSCT fence, and a Martin T17 fence. Of them all, the VSCT and Martin have the best/most satisfying locking/unlocking action. The others were fine, and absolutely none were like this felder fence. Is this specific to me and something i can adjust, or is this just how the fence operates? Has anyone replaced the handle of their rip fence to something longer for greater leverage? The operation of the fence is perfectly fine, and it stays put once its locked, but the ergonomics couldnt?suck more.?
Patrick
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I have a similar rip fence and there is no way to push it all the way down. ?It locks with just pushing down to you fell a firm touch. ?Easy to pull up and have never had it move. ? Philip Davidson?
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On Dec 16, 2020, at 1:52 PM, imranindiana via groups.io <imranindiana@...> wrote:
? I seem to recall that my rip fence was tighter than my liking early on. this is 19 yrs ago so do not recall what i did. never had an issues since. i have removed the rip fence and the bar since it is only a shaper now but the fence housing is laying on the table. when i am in shop later, i will take a look. i seem to recall that the cam portion of the lever forces a plate into the round bar.
Imran On Dec 16, 2020, at 1:37 PM, Patrick Kane <pwk5017@...> wrote: ? Interesting, i really do need to take the fence off and have a look at it. It wasnt my only/primary saw until recently, and i admit my laziness never allowed for me to delve into it deeply. Now it is my only table saw and im using the rip fence much much more.?
My rip fence system is different from yours. Mine is mounted to a round bar. Looks like the 2020 KF700 has the same/similar fence.
Patrick Patrick,
I had the same issue with my CF 741 2008 model. I couldn't open the rip fence lever and almost broke the handle using my both hands. On next time , I had the same issue, I noticed that the lever is not inserted deep inside the hole and the eccentric end of the lever shaft jummed? at the edge of the P channel. It could be you had the same issue.
Alex Zoric
-------- Original message -------- Date: 16/12/2020 17:04 (GMT+01:00) Subject: [FOG] Felder KF700 Rip Fence Lever
This has bugged me forever, but i never asked anyone about it. Last night i used my 2005 KF700 for a bit, and the rip fence lever is absurdly stubborn to lift up on. One, i find the stubby plastic handle to be uncomfortable and too short to apply/unapply pressure. Two, once its locked, it is always a two-handed approach to undo the fence--left hand on top of the fence head, right hand yanking up on the handle--which almost always results in me smacking my right hand off the fence body when the lever finally lets loose. Ive owned 2 unifences, 2-3 biesemeyer fences, one VSCT fence, and a Martin T17 fence. Of them all, the VSCT and Martin have the best/most satisfying locking/unlocking action. The others were fine, and absolutely none were like this felder fence. Is this specific to me and something i can adjust, or is this just how the fence operates? Has anyone replaced the handle of their rip fence to something longer for greater leverage? The operation of the fence is perfectly fine, and it stays put once its locked, but the ergonomics couldnt?suck more.?
Patrick
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My KF700 is 2002. Here is the rip fence locking detail
no adjustment. the plate is just pushed in and it clamps on the round bar. someone may have just guided me to not push it all the way. never had an issue with staying put.
Imran
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On Dec 16, 2020, at 2:23 PM, Philip Davidson <pgdiv4@...> wrote:
? I have a similar rip fence and there is no way to push it all the way down. ?It locks with just pushing down to you fell a firm touch. ?Easy to pull up and have never had it move. ? Philip Davidson? On Dec 16, 2020, at 1:52 PM, imranindiana via groups.io <imranindiana@...> wrote:
? I seem to recall that my rip fence was tighter than my liking early on. this is 19 yrs ago so do not recall what i did. never had an issues since. i have removed the rip fence and the bar since it is only a shaper now but the fence housing is laying on the table. when i am in shop later, i will take a look. i seem to recall that the cam portion of the lever forces a plate into the round bar.
Imran On Dec 16, 2020, at 1:37 PM, Patrick Kane <pwk5017@...> wrote: ? Interesting, i really do need to take the fence off and have a look at it. It wasnt my only/primary saw until recently, and i admit my laziness never allowed for me to delve into it deeply. Now it is my only table saw and im using the rip fence much much more.?
My rip fence system is different from yours. Mine is mounted to a round bar. Looks like the 2020 KF700 has the same/similar fence.
Patrick Patrick,
I had the same issue with my CF 741 2008 model. I couldn't open the rip fence lever and almost broke the handle using my both hands. On next time , I had the same issue, I noticed that the lever is not inserted deep inside the hole and the eccentric end of the lever shaft jummed? at the edge of the P channel. It could be you had the same issue.
Alex Zoric
-------- Original message -------- Date: 16/12/2020 17:04 (GMT+01:00) Subject: [FOG] Felder KF700 Rip Fence Lever
This has bugged me forever, but i never asked anyone about it. Last night i used my 2005 KF700 for a bit, and the rip fence lever is absurdly stubborn to lift up on. One, i find the stubby plastic handle to be uncomfortable and too short to apply/unapply pressure. Two, once its locked, it is always a two-handed approach to undo the fence--left hand on top of the fence head, right hand yanking up on the handle--which almost always results in me smacking my right hand off the fence body when the lever finally lets loose. Ive owned 2 unifences, 2-3 biesemeyer fences, one VSCT fence, and a Martin T17 fence. Of them all, the VSCT and Martin have the best/most satisfying locking/unlocking action. The others were fine, and absolutely none were like this felder fence. Is this specific to me and something i can adjust, or is this just how the fence operates? Has anyone replaced the handle of their rip fence to something longer for greater leverage? The operation of the fence is perfectly fine, and it stays put once its locked, but the ergonomics couldnt?suck more.?
Patrick
-- Philip davidsonukuleles.com
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Thought I had adjusted mine some how, i was having the same behavior?
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On Dec 16, 2020, at 3:48 PM, imranindiana via groups.io <imranindiana@...> wrote:
? My KF700 is 2002. Here is the rip fence locking detail
no adjustment. the plate is just pushed in and it clamps on the round bar. someone may have just guided me to not push it all the way. never had an issue with staying put.
Imran
On Dec 16, 2020, at 2:23 PM, Philip Davidson <pgdiv4@...> wrote:
? I have a similar rip fence and there is no way to push it all the way down. ?It locks with just pushing down to you fell a firm touch. ?Easy to pull up and have never had it move. ? Philip Davidson? On Dec 16, 2020, at 1:52 PM, imranindiana via groups.io <imranindiana@...> wrote:
? I seem to recall that my rip fence was tighter than my liking early on. this is 19 yrs ago so do not recall what i did. never had an issues since. i have removed the rip fence and the bar since it is only a shaper now but the fence housing is laying on the table. when i am in shop later, i will take a look. i seem to recall that the cam portion of the lever forces a plate into the round bar.
Imran On Dec 16, 2020, at 1:37 PM, Patrick Kane <pwk5017@...> wrote: ? Interesting, i really do need to take the fence off and have a look at it. It wasnt my only/primary saw until recently, and i admit my laziness never allowed for me to delve into it deeply. Now it is my only table saw and im using the rip fence much much more.?
My rip fence system is different from yours. Mine is mounted to a round bar. Looks like the 2020 KF700 has the same/similar fence.
Patrick Patrick,
I had the same issue with my CF 741 2008 model. I couldn't open the rip fence lever and almost broke the handle using my both hands. On next time , I had the same issue, I noticed that the lever is not inserted deep inside the hole and the eccentric end of the lever shaft jummed? at the edge of the P channel. It could be you had the same issue.
Alex Zoric
-------- Original message -------- Date: 16/12/2020 17:04 (GMT+01:00) Subject: [FOG] Felder KF700 Rip Fence Lever
This has bugged me forever, but i never asked anyone about it. Last night i used my 2005 KF700 for a bit, and the rip fence lever is absurdly stubborn to lift up on. One, i find the stubby plastic handle to be uncomfortable and too short to apply/unapply pressure. Two, once its locked, it is always a two-handed approach to undo the fence--left hand on top of the fence head, right hand yanking up on the handle--which almost always results in me smacking my right hand off the fence body when the lever finally lets loose. Ive owned 2 unifences, 2-3 biesemeyer fences, one VSCT fence, and a Martin T17 fence. Of them all, the VSCT and Martin have the best/most satisfying locking/unlocking action. The others were fine, and absolutely none were like this felder fence. Is this specific to me and something i can adjust, or is this just how the fence operates? Has anyone replaced the handle of their rip fence to something longer for greater leverage? The operation of the fence is perfectly fine, and it stays put once its locked, but the ergonomics couldnt?suck more.?
Patrick
-- Philip davidsonukuleles.com
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Mark,
The plate is held by 2 screws. i assume it also helps to keep the housing tight against the round bar so that it slides smoothly. if your machine was newer it might be different.
Imran
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On Dec 16, 2020, at 3:51 PM, Mark Kessler <mkessler10@...> wrote: ? Thought I had adjusted mine some how, i was having the same behavior? On Dec 16, 2020, at 3:48 PM, imranindiana via groups.io <imranindiana@...> wrote:
? My KF700 is 2002. Here is the rip fence locking detail
no adjustment. the plate is just pushed in and it clamps on the round bar. someone may have just guided me to not push it all the way. never had an issue with staying put.
Imran
On Dec 16, 2020, at 2:23 PM, Philip Davidson <pgdiv4@...> wrote:
? I have a similar rip fence and there is no way to push it all the way down. ?It locks with just pushing down to you fell a firm touch. ?Easy to pull up and have never had it move. ? Philip Davidson? On Dec 16, 2020, at 1:52 PM, imranindiana via groups.io <imranindiana@...> wrote:
? I seem to recall that my rip fence was tighter than my liking early on. this is 19 yrs ago so do not recall what i did. never had an issues since. i have removed the rip fence and the bar since it is only a shaper now but the fence housing is laying on the table. when i am in shop later, i will take a look. i seem to recall that the cam portion of the lever forces a plate into the round bar.
Imran On Dec 16, 2020, at 1:37 PM, Patrick Kane <pwk5017@...> wrote: ? Interesting, i really do need to take the fence off and have a look at it. It wasnt my only/primary saw until recently, and i admit my laziness never allowed for me to delve into it deeply. Now it is my only table saw and im using the rip fence much much more.?
My rip fence system is different from yours. Mine is mounted to a round bar. Looks like the 2020 KF700 has the same/similar fence.
Patrick Patrick,
I had the same issue with my CF 741 2008 model. I couldn't open the rip fence lever and almost broke the handle using my both hands. On next time , I had the same issue, I noticed that the lever is not inserted deep inside the hole and the eccentric end of the lever shaft jummed? at the edge of the P channel. It could be you had the same issue.
Alex Zoric
-------- Original message -------- Date: 16/12/2020 17:04 (GMT+01:00) Subject: [FOG] Felder KF700 Rip Fence Lever
This has bugged me forever, but i never asked anyone about it. Last night i used my 2005 KF700 for a bit, and the rip fence lever is absurdly stubborn to lift up on. One, i find the stubby plastic handle to be uncomfortable and too short to apply/unapply pressure. Two, once its locked, it is always a two-handed approach to undo the fence--left hand on top of the fence head, right hand yanking up on the handle--which almost always results in me smacking my right hand off the fence body when the lever finally lets loose. Ive owned 2 unifences, 2-3 biesemeyer fences, one VSCT fence, and a Martin T17 fence. Of them all, the VSCT and Martin have the best/most satisfying locking/unlocking action. The others were fine, and absolutely none were like this felder fence. Is this specific to me and something i can adjust, or is this just how the fence operates? Has anyone replaced the handle of their rip fence to something longer for greater leverage? The operation of the fence is perfectly fine, and it stays put once its locked, but the ergonomics couldnt?suck more.?
Patrick
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That appears to be an older Aluminum fence housing.
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Thought I had adjusted mine some how, i was having the same behavior? ? My KF700 is 2002. Here is the rip fence locking detail
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no adjustment. the plate is just pushed in and it clamps on the round bar. someone may have just guided me to not push it all the way. never had an issue with staying put.
Imran
On Dec 16, 2020, at 2:23 PM, Philip Davidson < pgdiv4@...> wrote:
? I have a similar rip fence and there is no way to push it all the way down. ?It locks with just pushing down to you fell a firm touch. ?Easy to pull up and have never had it move. ? Philip Davidson? ? I seem to recall that my rip fence was tighter than my liking early on. this is 19 yrs ago so do not recall what i did. never had an issues since. i have removed the rip fence and the bar since it is only a shaper now but the fence housing is laying on the table. when i am in shop later, i will take a look. i seem to recall that the cam portion of the lever forces a plate into the round bar.
Imran On Dec 16, 2020, at 1:37 PM, Patrick Kane < pwk5017@...> wrote: ? Interesting, i really do need to take the fence off and have a look at it. It wasnt my only/primary saw until recently, and i admit my laziness never allowed for me to delve into it deeply. Now it is my only table saw and im using the rip fence much much more.?
My rip fence system is different from yours. Mine is mounted to a round bar. Looks like the 2020 KF700 has the same/similar fence.
Patrick Patrick,
I had the same issue with my CF 741 2008 model. I couldn't open the rip fence lever and almost broke the handle using my both hands. On next time , I had the same issue, I noticed that the lever is not inserted deep inside the hole and the eccentric end of the lever shaft jummed? at the edge of the P channel. It could be you had the same issue.
Alex Zoric
-------- Original message -------- Date: 16/12/2020 17:04 (GMT+01:00) Subject: [FOG] Felder KF700 Rip Fence Lever
This has bugged me forever, but i never asked anyone about it. Last night i used my 2005 KF700 for a bit, and the rip fence lever is absurdly stubborn to lift up on. One, i find the stubby plastic handle to be uncomfortable and too short to apply/unapply pressure. Two, once its locked, it is always a two-handed approach to undo the fence--left hand on top of the fence head, right hand yanking up on the handle--which almost always results in me smacking my right hand off the fence body when the lever finally lets loose. Ive owned 2 unifences, 2-3 biesemeyer fences, one VSCT fence, and a Martin T17 fence. Of them all, the VSCT and Martin have the best/most satisfying locking/unlocking action. The others were fine, and absolutely none were like this felder fence. Is this specific to me and something i can adjust, or is this just how the fence operates? Has anyone replaced the handle of their rip fence to something longer for greater leverage? The operation of the fence is perfectly fine, and it stays put once its locked, but the ergonomics couldnt?suck more.?
Patrick
-- Philip
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To close the loop on this thread, I used my machine yesterday, but first sprayed dry lube where the rip fence handle contacts the locking mechanism. That completely did the trick, it is so much better now. Thanks to John for the tip.?
Patrick
On Wed, Dec 16, 2020 at 7:05 PM Brian Lamb < blamb11@...> wrote: That appears to be an older Aluminum fence housing.
Thought I had adjusted mine some how, i was having the same behavior? ? My KF700 is 2002. Here is the rip fence locking detail
<image0.jpeg>
no adjustment. the plate is just pushed in and it clamps on the round bar. someone may have just guided me to not push it all the way. never had an issue with staying put.
Imran
On Dec 16, 2020, at 2:23 PM, Philip Davidson < pgdiv4@...> wrote:
?I have a similar rip fence and there is no way to push it all the way down.? It locks with just pushing down to you fell a firm touch.? Easy to pull up and have never had it move. ? Philip Davidson? ? I seem to recall that my rip fence was tighter than my liking early on. this is 19 yrs ago so do not recall what i did. never had an issues since. i have removed the rip fence and the bar since it is only a shaper now but the fence housing is laying on the table. when i am in shop later, i will take a look. i seem to recall that the cam portion of the lever forces a plate into the round bar.
Imran On Dec 16, 2020, at 1:37 PM, Patrick Kane < pwk5017@...> wrote: ? Interesting, i really do need to take the fence off and have a look at it. It wasnt my only/primary saw until recently, and i admit my laziness never allowed for me to delve into it deeply. Now it is my only table saw and im using the rip fence much much more.?
My rip fence system is different from yours. Mine is mounted to a round bar. Looks like the 2020 KF700 has the same/similar fence.
Patrick Patrick,
I had the same issue with my CF 741 2008 model. I couldn't open the rip fence lever and almost broke the handle using my both hands. On next time , I had the same issue, I noticed that the lever is not inserted deep inside the hole and the eccentric end of the lever shaft jummed? at the edge of the P channel. It could be you had the same issue.
Alex Zoric
-------- Original message -------- Date: 16/12/2020 17:04 (GMT+01:00) Subject: [FOG] Felder KF700 Rip Fence Lever
This has bugged me forever, but i never asked anyone about it. Last night i used my 2005 KF700 for a bit, and the rip fence lever is absurdly stubborn to lift up on. One, i find the stubby plastic handle to be uncomfortable and too short to apply/unapply pressure. Two, once its locked, it is always a two-handed approach to undo the fence--left hand on top of the fence head, right hand yanking up on the handle--which almost always results in me smacking my right hand off the fence body when the lever finally lets loose. Ive owned 2 unifences, 2-3 biesemeyer fences, one VSCT fence, and a Martin T17 fence. Of them all, the VSCT and Martin have the best/most satisfying locking/unlocking action. The others were fine, and absolutely none were like this felder fence. Is this specific to me and something i can adjust, or is this just how the fence operates? Has anyone replaced the handle of their rip fence to something longer for greater leverage? The operation of the fence is perfectly fine, and it stays put once its locked, but the ergonomics couldnt?suck more.?
Patrick
-- Philip
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That is funny. To investigate your issue I looked at my rip fence housing few days ago when i posted pics. I did not mention then that i found the lever hard to move, this is where there is no round tube involved. The housing had been sitting on the table for many months since i removed rip fence completely off of KF700.
I sprayed LPS1 and it got looser like it used to be. I thought it was just my issue and your’s was more related to bearing against the round tube. Anyhow, glad yours is better and so is mine even though it just sits on a table. I need more storage ?
Imran
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On Dec 20, 2020, at 9:02 AM, Patrick Kane <pwk5017@...> wrote: ? To close the loop on this thread, I used my machine yesterday, but first sprayed dry lube where the rip fence handle contacts the locking mechanism. That completely did the trick, it is so much better now. Thanks to John for the tip.?
Patrick On Wed, Dec 16, 2020 at 7:05 PM Brian Lamb < blamb11@...> wrote: That appears to be an older Aluminum fence housing.
Thought I had adjusted mine some how, i was having the same behavior? ? My KF700 is 2002. Here is the rip fence locking detail
<image0.jpeg>
no adjustment. the plate is just pushed in and it clamps on the round bar. someone may have just guided me to not push it all the way. never had an issue with staying put.
Imran
On Dec 16, 2020, at 2:23 PM, Philip Davidson < pgdiv4@...> wrote:
?I have a similar rip fence and there is no way to push it all the way down.? It locks with just pushing down to you fell a firm touch.? Easy to pull up and have never had it move. ? Philip Davidson? ? I seem to recall that my rip fence was tighter than my liking early on. this is 19 yrs ago so do not recall what i did. never had an issues since. i have removed the rip fence and the bar since it is only a shaper now but the fence housing is laying on the table. when i am in shop later, i will take a look. i seem to recall that the cam portion of the lever forces a plate into the round bar.
Imran On Dec 16, 2020, at 1:37 PM, Patrick Kane < pwk5017@...> wrote: ? Interesting, i really do need to take the fence off and have a look at it. It wasnt my only/primary saw until recently, and i admit my laziness never allowed for me to delve into it deeply. Now it is my only table saw and im using the rip fence much much more.?
My rip fence system is different from yours. Mine is mounted to a round bar. Looks like the 2020 KF700 has the same/similar fence.
Patrick Patrick,
I had the same issue with my CF 741 2008 model. I couldn't open the rip fence lever and almost broke the handle using my both hands. On next time , I had the same issue, I noticed that the lever is not inserted deep inside the hole and the eccentric end of the lever shaft jummed? at the edge of the P channel. It could be you had the same issue.
Alex Zoric
-------- Original message -------- Date: 16/12/2020 17:04 (GMT+01:00) Subject: [FOG] Felder KF700 Rip Fence Lever
This has bugged me forever, but i never asked anyone about it. Last night i used my 2005 KF700 for a bit, and the rip fence lever is absurdly stubborn to lift up on. One, i find the stubby plastic handle to be uncomfortable and too short to apply/unapply pressure. Two, once its locked, it is always a two-handed approach to undo the fence--left hand on top of the fence head, right hand yanking up on the handle--which almost always results in me smacking my right hand off the fence body when the lever finally lets loose. Ive owned 2 unifences, 2-3 biesemeyer fences, one VSCT fence, and a Martin T17 fence. Of them all, the VSCT and Martin have the best/most satisfying locking/unlocking action. The others were fine, and absolutely none were like this felder fence. Is this specific to me and something i can adjust, or is this just how the fence operates? Has anyone replaced the handle of their rip fence to something longer for greater leverage? The operation of the fence is perfectly fine, and it stays put once its locked, but the ergonomics couldnt?suck more.?
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