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Felder FAT 300S vs 500S

 

Does anyone own both of these? I have the 300S and with a load it takes a fair amount of pressure on the foot pedal to raise the table. With almost twice the weight capacity and dual hydraulic cylinders I was wondering if the 500S requires less pressure on the foot pedal to raise the table under load. Anyone with real experience?
 

Hi JP,?
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I have a Felder FAT 500S. When loaded with a few hundred pounds of material, it does take some effort to lift.?
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Tom Gensmer
Heritage Home Renewals, LLC
Minneapolis, MN
 

Southworth?
Dave Davies

On Wed, Aug 14, 2024 at 10:18?AM Tom Gensmer via <tom=[email protected]> wrote:
Hi JP,?
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I have a Felder FAT 500S. When loaded with a few hundred pounds of material, it does take some effort to lift.?
--
Tom Gensmer
Heritage Home Renewals, LLC
Minneapolis, MN



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Dave & Marie Davies

318-219-7868
 

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I have to south worths
One 4x 6 x 7” to 36” at least 4000# on wheels with 3 wheel lift
One 5x8 x 15” to 84” 6000#
Both push afoot medal?

martin/campshure/co/llc
mac campshure
7412 elmwood ave.
middleton, wi 53562-3106
608-332-2330?cell

Designing and building for 50 years


On Aug 14, 2024, at 10:28?AM, David Davies via groups.io <myfinishingtouch@...> wrote:

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Southworth?
Dave Davies

On Wed, Aug 14, 2024 at 10:18?AM Tom Gensmer via <tom=[email protected]> wrote:
Hi JP,?
?
I have a Felder FAT 500S. When loaded with a few hundred pounds of material, it does take some effort to lift.?
--
Tom Gensmer
Heritage Home Renewals, LLC
Minneapolis, MN



--
Dave & Marie Davies

318-219-7868
 

You need to lubricate the jack rod anywhere it rotates inside another piece with something like oil or WD40.? My stock FAT300S performed very poorly until I did this (it would be difficult to pump and would squeak like crazy if it had anything more than 150 lbs).? After WD40, it was very easy to "pump the height" even with a couple hundred pounds.
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-Aaron
 

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Or lps 1 ?or slick 50

martin/campshure/co/llc
mac campshure
7412 elmwood ave.
middleton, wi 53562-3106
608-332-2330?cell

Designing and building for 50 years


On Aug 14, 2024, at 11:26?AM, Aaron Inami via groups.io <ainami@...> wrote:

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You need to lubricate the jack rod anywhere it rotates inside another piece with something like oil or WD40.? My stock FAT300S performed very poorly until I did this (it would be difficult to pump and would squeak like crazy if it had anything more than 150 lbs).? After WD40, it was very easy to "pump the height" even with a couple hundred pounds.
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<FAT300_lube.jpg>
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-Aaron
 

I will definitely look into lubricanting those areas tonight, thanks for the suggestion.?
 

Both Slick 50 and WD40 are penetrating oil lubricants.? The LPS 1 is considered a "dry lubricant" / water displacement element.? I think the LPS 1 would be good to treat surfaces that are exposed, but I'm not sure if it would work effectively on this scenario.? Since it's quick drying, I don't know that it would work itself inside the circular shafts enough to make a difference here on the FAT300 jack rod.
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Thoughts? (I've never used LPS 1, so I can't comment).
?
-Aaron
 

Dry lubes are generally a solvent that carries a high pressure additive. You coat the items, the solvent evaporates and leaves behind a high pressure "coating" and then that does the rubbing against each other. They tend to work well in dirty environments as once they dry, they don't attract saw dust and grit like oils or greases will.

Brian Lamb
blamb11@...
lambtoolworks.com


On Wednesday, August 14, 2024 at 01:03:52 PM MST, Aaron Inami <ainami@...> wrote:


Both Slick 50 and WD40 are penetrating oil lubricants.? The LPS 1 is considered a "dry lubricant" / water displacement element.? I think the LPS 1 would be good to treat surfaces that are exposed, but I'm not sure if it would work effectively on this scenario.? Since it's quick drying, I don't know that it would work itself inside the circular shafts enough to make a difference here on the FAT300 jack rod.
?
Thoughts? (I've never used LPS 1, so I can't comment).
?
-Aaron
 

P.S. WD40 is also somewhat solvent borne, it will work great immediately, as soon as it dries up a bit you will have a sticky mess with lots of residue.

Brian Lamb
blamb11@...
lambtoolworks.com


On Wednesday, August 14, 2024 at 01:03:52 PM MST, Aaron Inami <ainami@...> wrote:


Both Slick 50 and WD40 are penetrating oil lubricants.? The LPS 1 is considered a "dry lubricant" / water displacement element.? I think the LPS 1 would be good to treat surfaces that are exposed, but I'm not sure if it would work effectively on this scenario.? Since it's quick drying, I don't know that it would work itself inside the circular shafts enough to make a difference here on the FAT300 jack rod.
?
Thoughts? (I've never used LPS 1, so I can't comment).
?
-Aaron
 

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I dislike WD box store crap?
Try to avoid ?compressed cans always have to puncture and drain when propellent is gone. Let alone breathing the VOC?
I buy ?lps. 1,2, 3 by gallon
And use labeled squirt bottles like these.
Much more controllable,
Mac,,

IMG_4882




martin/campshure/co/llc
mac campshure
7412 elmwood ave.
middleton, wi 53562-3106
608-332-2330?cell

Designing and building for 50 years


On Aug 14, 2024, at 9:43?PM, Brian Lamb via groups.io <blamb11@...> wrote:

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P.S. WD40 is also somewhat solvent borne, it will work great immediately, as soon as it dries up a bit you will have a sticky mess with lots of residue.

Brian Lamb
blamb11@...
lambtoolworks.com


On Wednesday, August 14, 2024 at 01:03:52 PM MST, Aaron Inami <ainami@...> wrote:


Both Slick 50 and WD40 are penetrating oil lubricants.? The LPS 1 is considered a "dry lubricant" / water displacement element.? I think the LPS 1 would be good to treat surfaces that are exposed, but I'm not sure if it would work effectively on this scenario.? Since it's quick drying, I don't know that it would work itself inside the circular shafts enough to make a difference here on the FAT300 jack rod.
?
Thoughts? (I've never used LPS 1, so I can't comment).
?
-Aaron

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