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I did do some searching (archives) but didn’t find what I was looking for,
Thinking about a Fat300 (or similar?) to help manage sheet goods from van to saw in particular. ?Big (for me) cabinet job (just ordered 70 sheets of 3/4 walnut veneer) and now trying to think through practical problems before I start this late summer. ?85#s/sheet according to the manufacturer and prefinished so need to be careful. ?Anyway, it’s going to really add up given the scale. ?I use a KF700SP btw. ?Normally precut sheets with track saw but not this time. ?Big outrigger it will be. ?Back to the question, Is the 300 table (practically) big enough for 4x8 sheets, and second wonder is how it will do over concrete pad (rougher) before I roll into shop? ?Thanks.
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Hey Mike,
I have a FAT300 and love it to death. Just used it over the weekend to solo unload an engine hoist from my wife’s SUV without scratching the car or hurting myself. The weekend before that I loaded a finished 40” by 8’ walnut island into a customer’s uhaul. I got mine at a deep discount, but I love the hell out of it. I routinely work alone and on large projects. Not a great combination without some assistance.?
To answer your question on size, you might need to make a long handle to attach to the cart so you can move it with the 4x8 sheets on top of the cart. It’s not very large, so the sheet size will impede you from grabbing the cart frame or handle to move the thing. The top from Felder is very slick, and attempting to move the cart by grabbing the sheet goods on top, you will probably move the plywood before the cart.?
Finally, I’ve found the casters to move very well over my driveway(asphalt that is probably 30-40 years old and far from perfect)
Patrick?
On Thu, Jun 24, 2021 at 10:28 AM Mike S < Mike@...> wrote: I did do some searching (archives) but didn’t find what I was looking for,
Thinking about a Fat300 (or similar?) to help manage sheet goods from van to saw in particular.? Big (for me) cabinet job (just ordered 70 sheets of 3/4 walnut veneer) and now trying to think through practical problems before I start this late summer. ?85#s/sheet according to the manufacturer and prefinished so need to be careful.? Anyway, it’s going to really add up given the scale.? I use a KF700SP btw.? Normally precut sheets with track saw but not this time.? Big outrigger it will be.? Back to the question, Is the 300 table (practically) big enough for 4x8 sheets, and second wonder is how it will do over concrete pad (rougher) before I roll into shop?? Thanks.
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Ditto what Patrick said. You won’t regret buying it, although there are other similar tables, but having one is a must have in my opinion.
Bill Bélanger
Hey Mike,
I have a FAT300 and love it to death. Just used it over the weekend to solo unload an engine hoist from my wife’s SUV without scratching the car or hurting myself. The weekend before that I loaded a finished 40” by 8’ walnut island into a customer’s
uhaul. I got mine at a deep discount, but I love the hell out of it. I routinely work alone and on large projects. Not a great combination without some assistance.?
To answer your question on size, you might need to make a long handle to attach to the cart so you can move it with the 4x8 sheets on top of the cart. It’s not very large, so the sheet size will impede you from grabbing the cart frame or handle
to move the thing. The top from Felder is very slick, and attempting to move the cart by grabbing the sheet goods on top, you will probably move the plywood before the cart.?
Finally, I’ve found the casters to move very well over my driveway(asphalt that is probably 30-40 years old and far from perfect)
Patrick?
On Thu, Jun 24, 2021 at 10:28 AM Mike S < Mike@...> wrote:
I did do some searching (archives) but didn’t find what I was looking for,
Thinking about a Fat300 (or similar?) to help manage sheet goods from van to saw in particular.? Big (for me) cabinet job (just ordered 70 sheets of 3/4 walnut veneer) and now trying to think through practical problems before I start this late summer. ?85#s/sheet
according to the manufacturer and prefinished so need to be careful.? Anyway, it’s going to really add up given the scale.? I use a KF700SP btw.? Normally precut sheets with track saw but not this time.? Big outrigger it will be.? Back to the question, Is
the 300 table (practically) big enough for 4x8 sheets, and second wonder is how it will do over concrete pad (rougher) before I roll into shop?? Thanks.
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Had good luck with Harbor freight's cart/table that has 1000 pound capacity. We put a festool pegboard top on it cut the handle off and save $2000 On Jun 24, 2021, at 10:26 AM, Bill Belanger < Bill@...> wrote:
Ditto what Patrick said. You won’t regret buying it, although there are other similar tables, but having one is a must have in my opinion.
Bill Bélanger
Hey Mike,
I have a FAT300 and love it to death. Just used it over the weekend to solo unload an engine hoist from my wife’s SUV without scratching the car or hurting myself. The weekend before that I loaded a finished 40” by 8’ walnut island into a customer’s
uhaul. I got mine at a deep discount, but I love the hell out of it. I routinely work alone and on large projects. Not a great combination without some assistance.?
To answer your question on size, you might need to make a long handle to attach to the cart so you can move it with the 4x8 sheets on top of the cart. It’s not very large, so the sheet size will impede you from grabbing the cart frame or handle
to move the thing. The top from Felder is very slick, and attempting to move the cart by grabbing the sheet goods on top, you will probably move the plywood before the cart.?
Finally, I’ve found the casters to move very well over my driveway(asphalt that is probably 30-40 years old and far from perfect)
Patrick?
On Thu, Jun 24, 2021 at 10:28 AM Mike S < Mike@...> wrote:
I did do some searching (archives) but didn’t find what I was looking for,
Thinking about a Fat300 (or similar?) to help manage sheet goods from van to saw in particular.? Big (for me) cabinet job (just ordered 70 sheets of 3/4 walnut veneer) and now trying to think through practical problems before I start this late summer. ?85#s/sheet
according to the manufacturer and prefinished so need to be careful.? Anyway, it’s going to really add up given the scale.? I use a KF700SP btw.? Normally precut sheets with track saw but not this time.? Big outrigger it will be.? Back to the question, Is
the 300 table (practically) big enough for 4x8 sheets, and second wonder is how it will do over concrete pad (rougher) before I roll into shop?? Thanks.
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I have the Barth 300 which is similar to the FAT300.? It is a very nice cart but I don't think it is the best thing for handling sheet goods as it is a bit small, always horizontal and would not be easy to maneuver in the shop with a sheet laying flat.? I would suggest a panel handler that is purpose built for what you describe.? The large diameter wheels make it easy to transport sheet goods from a truck at the curb to my shop in the back over a surface that is far from perfect.? The one I have is:??
Steve
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Hi Steve good recommendation!! I have this unit the 4' expand to 10' i changed the 2 wheels to all rotate, also made some simple racks that fit for hinging doors. I also modified the lower shelf so it flips down. i use for an outfeed mostly behind? my 630 planer. this way the shelf can point down i was worried that when lifted it could catch the jointer back guard on my 17" jointer and tip it over. I have a nice top i just leave on. This is heavy duty built not like the Heffell cart.? mac...??
On Friday, June 25, 2021, 07:44:28 AM CDT, steverowe734@... <steverowe734@...> wrote:
I have the Barth 300 which is similar to the FAT300.? It is a very nice cart but I don't think it is the best thing for handling sheet goods as it is a bit small, always horizontal and would not be easy to maneuver in the shop with a sheet laying flat.? I would suggest a panel handler that is purpose built for what you describe.? The large diameter wheels make it easy to transport sheet goods from a truck at the curb to my shop in the back over a surface that is far from perfect.? The one I have is:??
Steve
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Mac (and Steve - thank-you, I think it’ll be the way to go)
Mac, expandable vs 4’?
Thanks
Mike
On Fri, Jun 25, 2021 at 10:24 AM Airtight: Clamps by Air Compression < airtightclamps@...> wrote:
Hi Steve good recommendation!! I have this unit the 4' expand to 10' i changed the 2 wheels to all rotate, also made some simple racks that fit for hinging doors. I also modified the lower shelf so it flips down. i use for an outfeed mostly behind? my 630 planer. this way the shelf can point down i was worried that when lifted it could catch the jointer back guard on my 17" jointer and tip it over. I have a nice top i just leave on. This is heavy duty built not like the Heffell cart.? mac...??
I have the Barth 300 which is similar to the FAT300.? It is a very nice cart but I don't think it is the best thing for handling sheet goods as it is a bit small, always horizontal and would not be easy to maneuver in the shop with a sheet laying flat.? I would suggest a panel handler that is purpose built for what you describe.? The large diameter wheels make it easy to transport sheet goods from a truck at the curb to my shop in the back over a surface that is far from perfect.? The one I have is:??
Steve
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These look great.? I have a FAT300S and use it for a bunch of things, handling plywood is one and I really like it for what it is worth
On Fri, Jun 25, 2021 at 1:34 PM Mike S < Mike@...> wrote: Mac (and Steve - thank-you, I think it’ll be the way to go)
Mac, expandable vs 4’?
Thanks
Mike On Fri, Jun 25, 2021 at 10:24 AM Airtight: Clamps by Air Compression < airtightclamps@...> wrote:
Hi Steve good recommendation!! I have this unit the 4' expand to 10' i changed the 2 wheels to all rotate, also made some simple racks that fit for hinging doors. I also modified the lower shelf so it flips down. i use for an outfeed mostly behind? my 630 planer. this way the shelf can point down i was worried that when lifted it could catch the jointer back guard on my 17" jointer and tip it over. I have a nice top i just leave on. This is heavy duty built not like the Heffell cart.? mac...??
I have the Barth 300 which is similar to the FAT300.? It is a very nice cart but I don't think it is the best thing for handling sheet goods as it is a bit small, always horizontal and would not be easy to maneuver in the shop with a sheet laying flat.? I would suggest a panel handler that is purpose built for what you describe.? The large diameter wheels make it easy to transport sheet goods from a truck at the curb to my shop in the back over a surface that is far from perfect.? The one I have is:??
Steve
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Mac, I want one of these.? I use as much 60” by 60” BB ply as I do 4 by 8 stuff. ?Would 60 by 60 balance ok on the 4 ft cart, I assume it’s balanced
for 4 by 8?
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Hi Steve good recommendation!!
I have this unit the 4' expand to 10' i changed the 2 wheels to all rotate, also made some simple racks that fit for hinging doors.
I also modified the lower shelf so it flips down. i use for an outfeed mostly behind? my 630 planer. this way the shelf can point down i was worried that when lifted it could catch
the jointer back guard on my 17" jointer and tip it over.
I have a nice top i just leave on. This is heavy duty built not like the Heffell cart.?
I have the Barth 300 which is similar to the FAT300.? It is a very nice cart but I don't think it is the best thing for handling sheet goods as it is a bit
small, always horizontal and would not be easy to maneuver in the shop with a sheet laying flat.? I would suggest a panel handler that is purpose built for what you describe.? The large diameter wheels make it easy to transport sheet goods from a truck at
the curb to my shop in the back over a surface that is far from perfect.? The one I have is:??
Steve
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I have a similar tilting panel cart and have no problems with 60x60 BB up to a stack of 8 sheets. ?That’s my limit in being able to lift and rotate the tilting table from vertical to horizontal. ?5 sheets of 4x8 ApplePly is my other limit. With more sheets I use my ceiling-mounted electric winch to tilt the top. ? David Best - via mobile phone?
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Mac, I want one of these.? I use as much 60” by 60” BB ply as I do 4 by 8 stuff. ?Would 60 by 60 balance ok on the 4 ft cart, I assume it’s balanced
for 4 by 8?
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Hi Steve good recommendation!!
I have this unit the 4' expand to 10' i changed the 2 wheels to all rotate, also made some simple racks that fit for hinging doors.
I also modified the lower shelf so it flips down. i use for an outfeed mostly behind? my 630 planer. this way the shelf can point down i was worried that when lifted it could catch
the jointer back guard on my 17" jointer and tip it over.
I have a nice top i just leave on. This is heavy duty built not like the Heffell cart.?
I have the Barth 300 which is similar to the FAT300.? It is a very nice cart but I don't think it is the best thing for handling sheet goods as it is a bit
small, always horizontal and would not be easy to maneuver in the shop with a sheet laying flat.? I would suggest a panel handler that is purpose built for what you describe.? The large diameter wheels make it easy to transport sheet goods from a truck at
the curb to my shop in the back over a surface that is far from perfect.? The one I have is:??
Steve
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I have the Fat300 (great for moving cut parts and as a work surface) and recently purchased the ShopCart 4' expanded bed to move around 4x8 sheets. They're both great! Would be hard to give them up. Richard -- Richard Miselis
13100 SE Orient Dr
Boring, OR 97009
-- Richard
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Thanks for the advice. ?I think the shop cart will be the right tool for the job so to speak although I’d really like a FAT as well…
Related (material handling), I did take the job I was counseled to avoid (time will tell) and have ordered 70 sheets of walnut veneered 3/4 europly. ?Fortunately my customer has a warehouse local to me (and a forklift) that I’ll be able to stage the material at but it of course means lots of white glove transportation. ?After considering a bed slide and and the option of a cargo trailer I decided to advance my plans for a van instead (wanted to wait for electric but I’ll be retired by the time its a reasonable option). ?Which brings me to my question/point. ?Has anyone had any experience with shoring poles? ?I found (I think) a source for L track capable poles from American Van Works (most are made for F track I think). ?I’m thinking about 4 pieces of track running side to side in the van (floor and roof) so that I can carry a doz or so sheets at a time on edge. ?As you’re all pretty dependable for feedback, I thought I’d air the concept before dropping $1k on the kit. ?
Thanks,
Mike
This is where I got the idea (attached picture)(I checked into them and they’re not available in the US):
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I've avoided permanent fixturing in my vans for door/plywood/table/glass transport with the following method: 1. Soft floor, my business prefers a solid smooth rubber mat. For anything super fragile, I've also used a cardboard liner.? 2. Plastic deck plate for safe sliding things in/out off the back lip of the floor (this is standard on most cargo vans) 3. Stack a sheet of something strong but not expensive and pad the top edge where it contacts chassis, leaning on edge about 5 degrees back along left side, this is the back support. 4. Slide in your goods tight to the backstop until satisfied. 5. Clamp to van structure with nylon?cam-locking tie-down strap about halfway up. If corner crushing under strap tension is an issue, add a couple of moving blanket pads or I'll often use paper towel rolls. 6. Take out whenever needed to make more space or change van configuration, save your money.
As a bonus, I may have been accused in the past of driving the van as close as possible?to the saw and using it to hold the sheets for less handling, taking out one at a time as needed for processing. If you can flip the sheets from vertical to horizontal from the storage position, your floor height might even allow very easy sliding onto the machinery. I always pick up slightly for horizontal slides so it's only riding on one edge and prevents gouging. Happy cutting, congrats on the van!
On Fri, Jul 2, 2021 at 1:15 PM Mike S < Mike@...> wrote: Thanks for the advice.? I think the shop cart will be the right tool for the job so to speak although I’d really like a FAT as well…
Related (material handling), I did take the job I was counseled to avoid (time will tell) and have ordered 70 sheets of walnut veneered 3/4 europly.? Fortunately my customer has a warehouse local to me (and a forklift) that I’ll be able to stage the material at but it of course means lots of white glove transportation.? After considering a bed slide and and the option of a cargo trailer I decided to advance my plans for a van instead (wanted to wait for electric but I’ll be retired by the time its a reasonable option).? Which brings me to my question/point.? Has anyone had any experience with shoring poles?? I found (I think) a source for L track capable poles from American Van Works (most are made for F track I think).? I’m thinking about 4 pieces of track running side to side in the van (floor and roof) so that I can carry a doz or so sheets at a time on edge.? As you’re all pretty dependable for feedback, I thought I’d air the concept before dropping $1k on the kit. ?
Thanks,
Mike
This is where I got the idea (attached picture)(I checked into them and they’re not available in the US):
-- Brett Wissel Saint Louis Restoration 1831 S Kingshighway Blvd (at Shaw Blvd) St Louis, MO 63110 314.772.2167 brett@...
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FAT 300’s are not available and the delivery time is indeterminate. ?So I ordered an alternative. ?
Has anyone figured out how to make this top? ?Particularly what hardware is needed and where it might be sourced?
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I've avoided permanent fixturing in my vans for door/plywood/table/glass transport with the following method: 1. Soft floor, my business prefers a solid smooth rubber mat. For anything super fragile, I've also used a cardboard liner.? 2. Plastic deck plate for safe sliding things in/out off the back lip of the floor (this is standard on most cargo vans) 3. Stack a sheet of something strong but not expensive and pad the top edge where it contacts chassis, leaning on edge about 5 degrees back along left side, this is the back support. 4. Slide in your goods tight to the backstop until satisfied. 5. Clamp to van structure with nylon?cam-locking tie-down strap about halfway up. If corner crushing under strap tension is an issue, add a couple of moving blanket pads or I'll often use paper towel rolls. 6. Take out whenever needed to make more space or change van configuration, save your money.
As a bonus, I may have been accused in the past of driving the van as close as possible?to the saw and using it to hold the sheets for less handling, taking out one at a time as needed for processing. If you can flip the sheets from vertical to horizontal from the storage position, your floor height might even allow very easy sliding onto the machinery. I always pick up slightly for horizontal slides so it's only riding on one edge and prevents gouging. Happy cutting, congrats on the van! On Fri, Jul 2, 2021 at 1:15 PM Mike S < Mike@...> wrote: Thanks for the advice.? I think the shop cart will be the right tool for the job so to speak although I’d really like a FAT as well…
Related (material handling), I did take the job I was counseled to avoid (time will tell) and have ordered 70 sheets of walnut veneered 3/4 europly.? Fortunately my customer has a warehouse local to me (and a forklift) that I’ll be able to stage the material at but it of course means lots of white glove transportation.? After considering a bed slide and and the option of a cargo trailer I decided to advance my plans for a van instead (wanted to wait for electric but I’ll be retired by the time its a reasonable option).? Which brings me to my question/point.? Has anyone had any experience with shoring poles?? I found (I think) a source for L track capable poles from American Van Works (most are made for F track I think).? I’m thinking about 4 pieces of track running side to side in the van (floor and roof) so that I can carry a doz or so sheets at a time on edge.? As you’re all pretty dependable for feedback, I thought I’d air the concept before dropping $1k on the kit. ?
Thanks,
Mike
This is where I got the idea (attached picture)(I checked into them and they’re not available in the US):
--?Brett Wissel Saint Louis Restoration 1831 S Kingshighway Blvd (at Shaw Blvd) St Louis, MO 63110 314.772.2167 brett@...
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Making the top is easy with a CNC router and possible by hand with careful layout and drilling. The 20mm holes are fairly standard. Festool uses them:
I know there are others as well.?
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On Jul 7, 2021, at 9:37 PM, habacomike via groups.io <habacomike@...> wrote:
? FAT 300’s are not available and the delivery time is indeterminate. ?So I ordered an alternative. ?
Has anyone figured out how to make this top? ?Particularly what hardware is needed and where it might be sourced?
Mike
I've avoided permanent fixturing in my vans for door/plywood/table/glass transport with the following method: 1. Soft floor, my business prefers a solid smooth rubber mat. For anything super fragile, I've also used a cardboard liner.? 2. Plastic deck plate for safe sliding things in/out off the back lip of the floor (this is standard on most cargo vans) 3. Stack a sheet of something strong but not expensive and pad the top edge where it contacts chassis, leaning on edge about 5 degrees back along left side, this is the back support. 4. Slide in your goods tight to the backstop until satisfied. 5. Clamp to van structure with nylon?cam-locking tie-down strap about halfway up. If corner crushing under strap tension is an issue, add a couple of moving blanket pads or I'll often use paper towel rolls. 6. Take out whenever needed to make more space or change van configuration, save your money.
As a bonus, I may have been accused in the past of driving the van as close as possible?to the saw and using it to hold the sheets for less handling, taking out one at a time as needed for processing. If you can flip the sheets from vertical to horizontal from the storage position, your floor height might even allow very easy sliding onto the machinery. I always pick up slightly for horizontal slides so it's only riding on one edge and prevents gouging. Happy cutting, congrats on the van! On Fri, Jul 2, 2021 at 1:15 PM Mike S < Mike@...> wrote: Thanks for the advice.? I think the shop cart will be the right tool for the job so to speak although I’d really like a FAT as well…
Related (material handling), I did take the job I was counseled to avoid (time will tell) and have ordered 70 sheets of walnut veneered 3/4 europly.? Fortunately my customer has a warehouse local to me (and a forklift) that I’ll be able to stage the material at but it of course means lots of white glove transportation.? After considering a bed slide and and the option of a cargo trailer I decided to advance my plans for a van instead (wanted to wait for electric but I’ll be retired by the time its a reasonable option).? Which brings me to my question/point.? Has anyone had any experience with shoring poles?? I found (I think) a source for L track capable poles from American Van Works (most are made for F track I think).? I’m thinking about 4 pieces of track running side to side in the van (floor and roof) so that I can carry a doz or so sheets at a time on edge.? As you’re all pretty dependable for feedback, I thought I’d air the concept before dropping $1k on the kit. ?
Thanks,
Mike
This is where I got the idea (attached picture)(I checked into them and they’re not available in the US):
--?Brett Wissel Saint Louis Restoration 1831 S Kingshighway Blvd (at Shaw Blvd) St Louis, MO 63110 314.772.2167 brett@...
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all the hardware is from Ruwi. ?Felder can get the fence parts and the prices weren’t unreasonable.
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FAT 300’s are not available and the delivery time is indeterminate. ?So I ordered an alternative. ?
Has anyone figured out how to make this top? ?Particularly what hardware is needed and where it might be sourced?
Mike
I've avoided permanent fixturing in my vans for door/plywood/table/glass transport with the following method: 1. Soft floor, my business prefers a solid smooth rubber mat. For anything super fragile, I've also used a cardboard liner.? 2. Plastic deck plate for safe sliding things in/out off the back lip of the floor (this is standard on most cargo vans) 3. Stack a sheet of something strong but not expensive and pad the top edge where it contacts chassis, leaning on edge about 5 degrees back along left side, this is the back support. 4. Slide in your goods tight to the backstop until satisfied. 5. Clamp to van structure with nylon?cam-locking tie-down strap about halfway up. If corner crushing under strap tension is an issue, add a couple of moving blanket pads or I'll often use paper towel rolls. 6. Take out whenever needed to make more space or change van configuration, save your money.
As a bonus, I may have been accused in the past of driving the van as close as possible?to the saw and using it to hold the sheets for less handling, taking out one at a time as needed for processing. If you can flip the sheets from vertical to horizontal from the storage position, your floor height might even allow very easy sliding onto the machinery. I always pick up slightly for horizontal slides so it's only riding on one edge and prevents gouging. Happy cutting, congrats on the van! On Fri, Jul 2, 2021 at 1:15 PM Mike S < Mike@...> wrote: Thanks for the advice.? I think the shop cart will be the right tool for the job so to speak although I’d really like a FAT as well…
Related (material handling), I did take the job I was counseled to avoid (time will tell) and have ordered 70 sheets of walnut veneered 3/4 europly.? Fortunately my customer has a warehouse local to me (and a forklift) that I’ll be able to stage the material at but it of course means lots of white glove transportation.? After considering a bed slide and and the option of a cargo trailer I decided to advance my plans for a van instead (wanted to wait for electric but I’ll be retired by the time its a reasonable option).? Which brings me to my question/point.? Has anyone had any experience with shoring poles?? I found (I think) a source for L track capable poles from American Van Works (most are made for F track I think).? I’m thinking about 4 pieces of track running side to side in the van (floor and roof) so that I can carry a doz or so sheets at a time on edge.? As you’re all pretty dependable for feedback, I thought I’d air the concept before dropping $1k on the kit. ?
Thanks,
Mike
This is where I got the idea (attached picture)(I checked into them and they’re not available in the US):
--?Brett Wissel Saint Louis Restoration 1831 S Kingshighway Blvd (at Shaw Blvd) St Louis, MO 63110 314.772.2167 brett@...
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I’ve got the Dominofix plate, but it appears it might not be on sale any longer. Woodpecker makes a router jig to make the tables.
all the hardware is from Ruwi.? Felder can get the fence parts and the prices weren’t unreasonable.
FAT 300’s are not available and the delivery time is indeterminate.? So I ordered an alternative. ?
Has anyone figured out how to make this top?? Particularly what hardware is needed and where it might be sourced?
Mike
I've avoided permanent fixturing in my vans for door/plywood/table/glass transport with the following method: 1. Soft floor, my business prefers a solid smooth rubber mat. For anything super fragile, I've also used a cardboard liner.? 2. Plastic deck plate for safe sliding things in/out off the back lip of the floor (this is standard on most cargo vans) 3. Stack a sheet of something strong but not expensive and pad the top edge where it contacts chassis, leaning on edge about 5 degrees back along left side, this is the back support. 4. Slide in your goods tight to the backstop until satisfied. 5. Clamp to van structure with nylon?cam-locking tie-down strap about halfway up. If corner crushing under strap tension is an issue, add a couple of moving blanket pads or I'll often use paper towel rolls. 6. Take out whenever needed to make more space or change van configuration, save your money.
As a bonus, I may have been accused in the past of driving the van as close as possible?to the saw and using it to hold the sheets for less handling, taking out one at a time as needed for processing. If you can flip the sheets from vertical to horizontal from the storage position, your floor height might even allow very easy sliding onto the machinery. I always pick up slightly for horizontal slides so it's only riding on one edge and prevents gouging. Happy cutting, congrats on the van! On Fri, Jul 2, 2021 at 1:15 PM Mike S < Mike@...> wrote: Thanks for the advice.? I think the shop cart will be the right tool for the job so to speak although I’d really like a FAT as well…
Related (material handling), I did take the job I was counseled to avoid (time will tell) and have ordered 70 sheets of walnut veneered 3/4 europly.? Fortunately my customer has a warehouse local to me (and a forklift) that I’ll be able to stage the material at but it of course means lots of white glove transportation.? After considering a bed slide and and the option of a cargo trailer I decided to advance my plans for a van instead (wanted to wait for electric but I’ll be retired by the time its a reasonable option).? Which brings me to my question/point.? Has anyone had any experience with shoring poles?? I found (I think) a source for L track capable poles from American Van Works (most are made for F track I think).? I’m thinking about 4 pieces of track running side to side in the van (floor and roof) so that I can carry a doz or so sheets at a time on edge.? As you’re all pretty dependable for feedback, I thought I’d air the concept before dropping $1k on the kit. ?
Thanks,
Mike
This is where I got the idea (attached picture)(I checked into them and they’re not available in the US):
--?Brett Wissel Saint Louis Restoration (at Shaw Blvd) St Louis, MO 63110 314.772.2167 brett@...
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I’ve ordered a Parf guide to make the 20mm holes in the top. ?The hardware I’m wondering about is what is used to allow the two halves of the table to lock in the minimal position, rotate to the larger position, and (most importantly) lock in that larger position ALIGNED from one set of holes on one piece to the grid on the other...
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I’ve got the Dominofix plate, but it appears it might not be on sale any longer. Woodpecker makes a router jig to make the tables. all the hardware is from Ruwi.? Felder can get the fence parts and the prices weren’t unreasonable.
FAT 300’s are not available and the delivery time is indeterminate.? So I ordered an alternative. ?
Has anyone figured out how to make this top?? Particularly what hardware is needed and where it might be sourced?
Mike
I've avoided permanent fixturing in my vans for door/plywood/table/glass transport with the following method: 1. Soft floor, my business prefers a solid smooth rubber mat. For anything super fragile, I've also used a cardboard liner.? 2. Plastic deck plate for safe sliding things in/out off the back lip of the floor (this is standard on most cargo vans) 3. Stack a sheet of something strong but not expensive and pad the top edge where it contacts chassis, leaning on edge about 5 degrees back along left side, this is the back support. 4. Slide in your goods tight to the backstop until satisfied. 5. Clamp to van structure with nylon?cam-locking tie-down strap about halfway up. If corner crushing under strap tension is an issue, add a couple of moving blanket pads or I'll often use paper towel rolls. 6. Take out whenever needed to make more space or change van configuration, save your money.
As a bonus, I may have been accused in the past of driving the van as close as possible?to the saw and using it to hold the sheets for less handling, taking out one at a time as needed for processing. If you can flip the sheets from vertical to horizontal from the storage position, your floor height might even allow very easy sliding onto the machinery. I always pick up slightly for horizontal slides so it's only riding on one edge and prevents gouging. Happy cutting, congrats on the van! On Fri, Jul 2, 2021 at 1:15 PM Mike S < Mike@...> wrote: Thanks for the advice.? I think the shop cart will be the right tool for the job so to speak although I’d really like a FAT as well…
Related (material handling), I did take the job I was counseled to avoid (time will tell) and have ordered 70 sheets of walnut veneered 3/4 europly.? Fortunately my customer has a warehouse local to me (and a forklift) that I’ll be able to stage the material at but it of course means lots of white glove transportation.? After considering a bed slide and and the option of a cargo trailer I decided to advance my plans for a van instead (wanted to wait for electric but I’ll be retired by the time its a reasonable option).? Which brings me to my question/point.? Has anyone had any experience with shoring poles?? I found (I think) a source for L track capable poles from American Van Works (most are made for F track I think).? I’m thinking about 4 pieces of track running side to side in the van (floor and roof) so that I can carry a doz or so sheets at a time on edge.? As you’re all pretty dependable for feedback, I thought I’d air the concept before dropping $1k on the kit. ?
Thanks,
Mike
This is where I got the idea (attached picture)(I checked into them and they’re not available in the US):
--?Brett Wissel Saint Louis Restoration ?(at Shaw Blvd) St Louis, MO 63110 314.772.2167 brett@...
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The reason I’m particularly interested in this top is the space saving it seems to enable. ?I work out of a three car garage yet my spouse believes (rightfully, I guess) that the center bay should be available for her vehicle at times (like when I’m absent for the winter skiing). ?There are two aspects to the RUWI table top that really have sold me on the top: ?the swivel that enables the table top to double in size and the bars that allow for expanding the support even further. ?I ordered the bars from Felder (they are in stock). ?I would’ve just bought the table top as well but it is out of stock and who knows when it will become available...
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I’ve ordered a Parf guide to make the 20mm holes in the top. ?The hardware I’m wondering about is what is used to allow the two halves of the table to lock in the minimal position, rotate to the larger position, and (most importantly) lock in that larger position ALIGNED from one set of holes on one piece to the grid on the other...
I’ve got the Dominofix plate, but it appears it might not be on sale any longer. Woodpecker makes a router jig to make the tables. all the hardware is from Ruwi.? Felder can get the fence parts and the prices weren’t unreasonable.
FAT 300’s are not available and the delivery time is indeterminate.? So I ordered an alternative. ?
Has anyone figured out how to make this top?? Particularly what hardware is needed and where it might be sourced?
Mike
I've avoided permanent fixturing in my vans for door/plywood/table/glass transport with the following method: 1. Soft floor, my business prefers a solid smooth rubber mat. For anything super fragile, I've also used a cardboard liner.? 2. Plastic deck plate for safe sliding things in/out off the back lip of the floor (this is standard on most cargo vans) 3. Stack a sheet of something strong but not expensive and pad the top edge where it contacts chassis, leaning on edge about 5 degrees back along left side, this is the back support. 4. Slide in your goods tight to the backstop until satisfied. 5. Clamp to van structure with nylon?cam-locking tie-down strap about halfway up. If corner crushing under strap tension is an issue, add a couple of moving blanket pads or I'll often use paper towel rolls. 6. Take out whenever needed to make more space or change van configuration, save your money.
As a bonus, I may have been accused in the past of driving the van as close as possible?to the saw and using it to hold the sheets for less handling, taking out one at a time as needed for processing. If you can flip the sheets from vertical to horizontal from the storage position, your floor height might even allow very easy sliding onto the machinery. I always pick up slightly for horizontal slides so it's only riding on one edge and prevents gouging. Happy cutting, congrats on the van! On Fri, Jul 2, 2021 at 1:15 PM Mike S < Mike@...> wrote: Thanks for the advice.? I think the shop cart will be the right tool for the job so to speak although I’d really like a FAT as well…
Related (material handling), I did take the job I was counseled to avoid (time will tell) and have ordered 70 sheets of walnut veneered 3/4 europly.? Fortunately my customer has a warehouse local to me (and a forklift) that I’ll be able to stage the material at but it of course means lots of white glove transportation.? After considering a bed slide and and the option of a cargo trailer I decided to advance my plans for a van instead (wanted to wait for electric but I’ll be retired by the time its a reasonable option).? Which brings me to my question/point.? Has anyone had any experience with shoring poles?? I found (I think) a source for L track capable poles from American Van Works (most are made for F track I think).? I’m thinking about 4 pieces of track running side to side in the van (floor and roof) so that I can carry a doz or so sheets at a time on edge.? As you’re all pretty dependable for feedback, I thought I’d air the concept before dropping $1k on the kit. ?
Thanks,
Mike
This is where I got the idea (attached picture)(I checked into them and they’re not available in the US):
--?Brett Wissel Saint Louis Restoration ?(at Shaw Blvd) St Louis, MO 63110 314.772.2167 brett@...
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I emptied my panel handler cart which made it easy to make a review video for the Shop Carts Panel Handler.? This is the video and is not monetized so I have nothing to gain (or lose) one way or the other:??
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