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Flat Top Grind Blade


 

I have been looking for an FTG blade, but they are not easy to find. This would be primarily for flat-bottom cuts.

I bought a couple of Tenryu blades, but they do not offer a flat-tooth option with the right bore for a Felder.

Is it feasible or reasonable to have a saw shop re-bore my 10” blade to fit my Felder?
--
John Hinman
Boise ID
K700S, and expecting an A941 in April 2022


 

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John, do you have a Leitz rep in your area? Leitz have an enormous catalog of tooling and I’ve bought several blades from them which are “blanks” in that the carbide teeth are flat, ready for whatever profile the customer wants. I took one blade “as is” which makes perfectly flat-bottomed grooves at 3.2mm widths, and I had a second blade ground “all one way” at 8 degrees so I could use it for machine cut dovetails.?

Warm regards,
Lucky

Dr David Luckensmeyer


From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of John Hinman <jhinman1911@...>
Sent: Friday, March 18, 2022 11:46:13 AM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: [FOG] Flat Top Grind Blade
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I have been looking for an FTG blade, but they are not easy to find. This would be primarily for flat-bottom cuts.

I bought a couple of Tenryu blades, but they do not offer a flat-tooth option with the right bore for a Felder.

Is it feasible or reasonable to have a saw shop re-bore my 10” blade to fit my Felder?
--
John Hinman
Boise ID
K700S, and expecting an A941 in April 2022


 

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Yes you can have it re-bored, i have also had an atb reground at one point in the past.

Here is one i recently bought but i think it’s a thin kerf.


Regards, Mark



On Mar 17, 2022, at 9:46 PM, John Hinman <jhinman1911@...> wrote:

?I have been looking for an FTG blade, but they are not easy to find. This would be primarily for flat-bottom cuts.

I bought a couple of Tenryu blades, but they do not offer a flat-tooth option with the right bore for a Felder.

Is it feasible or reasonable to have a saw shop re-bore my 10” blade to fit my Felder?
--
John Hinman
Boise ID
K700S, and expecting an A941 in April 2022


 

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Felder offers this (currently out of stock) with 4mm kerf.


Imran

On Mar 17, 2022, at 9:46 PM, John Hinman <jhinman1911@...> wrote:

?I have been looking for an FTG blade, but they are not easy to find. This would be primarily for flat-bottom cuts.

I bought a couple of Tenryu blades, but they do not offer a flat-tooth option with the right bore for a Felder.

Is it feasible or reasonable to have a saw shop re-bore my 10” blade to fit my Felder?
--
John Hinman
Boise ID
K700S, and expecting an A941 in April 2022


 

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Imran i have that one, good for just plowing a groove but i didn’t like it for joinery like a bridal joint. The Freud I bought (link below) is really good for that.

Regards, Mark



On Mar 17, 2022, at 9:59 PM, imranindiana <imranindiana@...> wrote:

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Felder offers this (currently out of stock) with 4mm kerf.


Imran

On Mar 17, 2022, at 9:46 PM, John Hinman <jhinman1911@...> wrote:

?I have been looking for an FTG blade, but they are not easy to find. This would be primarily for flat-bottom cuts.

I bought a couple of Tenryu blades, but they do not offer a flat-tooth option with the right bore for a Felder.

Is it feasible or reasonable to have a saw shop re-bore my 10” blade to fit my Felder?
--
John Hinman
Boise ID
K700S, and expecting an A941 in April 2022


 

Hello John,

Here is one of Freud's offerings: ?https://www.amazon.com/300-2-7-30-FLAT-ICE/dp/B00AHVUJ8U/ref=pd_sbs_3/145-8295320-0490839?pd_rd_w=FYQhp&pf_rd_p=4b6b5072-e9bd-4f30-a3af-a1f5d52978ec&pf_rd_r=M7Z909JTFVSX3MRF5429&pd_rd_r=6a7e30c5-561a-4ff3-a635-ae4113025f5e&pd_rd_wg=ba24h&pd_rd_i=B00AHVUJ8U&psc=1


 

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I bought a Leitz from my local saw sharpening shop and he reground it so it cuts a true flat bottom. I use it for fine detail hardwood joint work.

Mark Foster?


On Mar 17, 2022, at 19:03, Mark Kessler <mkessler10@...> wrote:

?Imran i have that one, good for just plowing a groove but i didn’t like it for joinery like a bridal joint. The Freud I bought (link below) is really good for that.

Regards, Mark



On Mar 17, 2022, at 9:59 PM, imranindiana <imranindiana@...> wrote:

?
Felder offers this (currently out of stock) with 4mm kerf.


Imran

On Mar 17, 2022, at 9:46 PM, John Hinman <jhinman1911@...> wrote:

?I have been looking for an FTG blade, but they are not easy to find. This would be primarily for flat-bottom cuts.

I bought a couple of Tenryu blades, but they do not offer a flat-tooth option with the right bore for a Felder.

Is it feasible or reasonable to have a saw shop re-bore my 10” blade to fit my Felder?
--
John Hinman
Boise ID
K700S, and expecting an A941 in April 2022

--
Mark Foster


 

Aren't all rip blades FTG?? That said, as in Lucky's example above, I recently sent of the combination blade that came with my (you should pardon the expression) SawStop to be ground flat at 10 degrees for use with a dovetail sled.? It cost $25.00, was returned to me in 48 hours, including shipping, and works perfectly.? I sent it to CT Saw & Tool () and can personally highly recommend them.? Jeff


On Thu, Mar 17, 2022 at 9:51 PM David Luckensmeyer <dhluckens@...> wrote:
John, do you have a Leitz rep in your area? Leitz have an enormous catalog of tooling and I’ve bought several blades from them which are “blanks” in that the carbide teeth are flat, ready for whatever profile the customer wants. I took one blade “as is” which makes perfectly flat-bottomed grooves at 3.2mm widths, and I had a second blade ground “all one way” at 8 degrees so I could use it for machine cut dovetails.?

Warm regards,
Lucky

Dr David Luckensmeyer

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of John Hinman <jhinman1911@...>
Sent: Friday, March 18, 2022 11:46:13 AM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: [FOG] Flat Top Grind Blade
?
I have been looking for an FTG blade, but they are not easy to find. This would be primarily for flat-bottom cuts.

I bought a couple of Tenryu blades, but they do not offer a flat-tooth option with the right bore for a Felder.

Is it feasible or reasonable to have a saw shop re-bore my 10” blade to fit my Felder?
--
John Hinman
Boise ID
K700S, and expecting an A941 in April 2022


 

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I had Leitz custom grind one of their standard blades specifically for joinery work. ?I believe the up-charge was about $25 over the cost of the new blade which was about $130. ?I recommend you call?Mark Gallagher at Leitz in Kent WA (he’s the closest to you and services Boise) at??(253) 651-8977?, and tell him what you need. ?You can also email him: ?mgallagher@...

This is the specific blade I had them grind to flat-top. ?It’s 300mm diameter, with 72 teeth. ?You could reference their part number when you talk with Mark if this is the configuration you want.






David Best

https://www.instagram.com/davidpbest/






On Mar 17, 2022, at 6:46 PM, John Hinman <Jhinman1911@...> wrote:

I have been looking for an FTG blade, but they are not easy to find. This would be primarily for flat-bottom cuts.

I bought a couple of Tenryu blades, but they do not offer a flat-tooth option with the right bore for a Felder.

Is it feasible or reasonable to have a saw shop re-bore my 10” blade to fit my Felder?
--
John Hinman
Boise ID
K700S, and expecting an A941 in April 2022


 

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That’s a nice blade. I want that blade!

Warm regards,
Lucky

Dr David Luckensmeyer


From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of david@... via groups.io <david@...>
Sent: Friday, March 18, 2022 12:49:56 PM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [FOG] Flat Top Grind Blade
?
I had Leitz custom grind one of their standard blades specifically for joinery work. ?I believe the up-charge was about $25 over the cost of the new blade which was about $130. ?I recommend you call?Mark Gallagher at Leitz in Kent WA (he’s the closest to you and services Boise) at??(253) 651-8977?, and tell him what you need. ?You can also email him: ?mgallagher@...

This is the specific blade I had them grind to flat-top. ?It’s 300mm diameter, with 72 teeth. ?You could reference their part number when you talk with Mark if this is the configuration you want.






David Best

https://www.instagram.com/davidpbest/






On Mar 17, 2022, at 6:46 PM, John Hinman <Jhinman1911@...> wrote:

I have been looking for an FTG blade, but they are not easy to find. This would be primarily for flat-bottom cuts.

I bought a couple of Tenryu blades, but they do not offer a flat-tooth option with the right bore for a Felder.

Is it feasible or reasonable to have a saw shop re-bore my 10” blade to fit my Felder?
--
John Hinman
Boise ID
K700S, and expecting an A941 in April 2022


 

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Imran, I have two of those - they are great for grooving drawer bottoms and the like, but not good for joinery.

David Best

https://www.instagram.com/davidpbest/






On Mar 17, 2022, at 6:59 PM, imranindiana <imranindiana@...> wrote:

Felder offers this (currently out of stock) with 4mm kerf.


Imran

On Mar 17, 2022, at 9:46 PM, John Hinman <jhinman1911@...> wrote:

?I have been looking for an FTG blade, but they are not easy to find. This would be primarily for flat-bottom cuts.

I bought a couple of Tenryu blades, but they do not offer a flat-tooth option with the right bore for a Felder.

Is it feasible or reasonable to have a saw shop re-bore my 10” blade to fit my Felder?
--
John Hinman
Boise ID
K700S, and expecting an A941 in April 2022


 

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Lucky, I’ll trade you my (unused) 8-degree dovetail blade for something if you want. ?LOL

David Best

https://www.instagram.com/davidpbest/






On Mar 17, 2022, at 7:51 PM, David Luckensmeyer <dhluckens@...> wrote:

That’s a nice blade. I want that blade!

Warm regards,
Lucky

Dr David Luckensmeyer

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of david@... via <david@...>
Sent: Friday, March 18, 2022 12:49:56 PM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [FOG] Flat Top Grind Blade
?
I had Leitz custom grind one of their standard blades specifically for joinery work. ?I believe the up-charge was about $25 over the cost of the new blade which was about $130. ?I recommend you call?Mark Gallagher at Leitz in Kent WA (he’s the closest to you and services Boise) at??(253) 651-8977?, and tell him what you need. ?You can also email him: ?mgallagher@...

This is the specific blade I had them grind to flat-top. ?It’s 300mm diameter, with 72 teeth. ?You could reference their part number when you talk with Mark if this is the configuration you want.

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David Best








On Mar 17, 2022, at 6:46 PM, John Hinman <Jhinman1911@...> wrote:

I have been looking for an FTG blade, but they are not easy to find. This would be primarily for flat-bottom cuts.

I bought a couple of Tenryu blades, but they do not offer a flat-tooth option with the right bore for a Felder.

Is it feasible or reasonable to have a saw shop re-bore my 10” blade to fit my Felder?
--
John Hinman
Boise ID
K700S, and expecting an A941 in April 2022



 

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Haha! I’ll keep that in mind. Unfortunately the double postage between us would likely dampen our enthusiasm for a swap!

Warm regards,
David

Dr David Luckensmeyer


From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of david@... via groups.io <david@...>
Sent: Friday, March 18, 2022 12:58:03 PM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [FOG] Flat Top Grind Blade
?
Lucky, I’ll trade you my (unused) 8-degree dovetail blade for something if you want. ?LOL

David Best

https://www.instagram.com/davidpbest/






On Mar 17, 2022, at 7:51 PM, David Luckensmeyer <dhluckens@...> wrote:

That’s a nice blade. I want that blade!

Warm regards,
Lucky

Dr David Luckensmeyer

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of david@... via <david@...>
Sent: Friday, March 18, 2022 12:49:56 PM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [FOG] Flat Top Grind Blade
?
I had Leitz custom grind one of their standard blades specifically for joinery work. ?I believe the up-charge was about $25 over the cost of the new blade which was about $130. ?I recommend you call?Mark Gallagher at Leitz in Kent WA (he’s the closest to you and services Boise) at??(253) 651-8977?, and tell him what you need. ?You can also email him: ?mgallagher@...

This is the specific blade I had them grind to flat-top. ?It’s 300mm diameter, with 72 teeth. ?You could reference their part number when you talk with Mark if this is the configuration you want.

<IMG_7519.jpeg>




David Best








On Mar 17, 2022, at 6:46 PM, John Hinman <Jhinman1911@...> wrote:

I have been looking for an FTG blade, but they are not easy to find. This would be primarily for flat-bottom cuts.

I bought a couple of Tenryu blades, but they do not offer a flat-tooth option with the right bore for a Felder.

Is it feasible or reasonable to have a saw shop re-bore my 10” blade to fit my Felder?
--
John Hinman
Boise ID
K700S, and expecting an A941 in April 2022



 

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Thanks David and Mark,

John did not mention fine joinery rather flat bottom cuts so I thought I had the perfect option for him. No Problem.

Wonder if Leitz offers one in Aqua marine (Mauve to the color blind crowd ?).

Imran

On Mar 17, 2022, at 10:51 PM, david@... via groups.io <david@...> wrote:

?Imran, I have two of those - they are great for grooving drawer bottoms and the like, but not good for joinery.

David Best

https://www.instagram.com/davidpbest/






On Mar 17, 2022, at 6:59 PM, imranindiana <imranindiana@...> wrote:

Felder offers this (currently out of stock) with 4mm kerf.


Imran

On Mar 17, 2022, at 9:46 PM, John Hinman <jhinman1911@...> wrote:

?I have been looking for an FTG blade, but they are not easy to find. This would be primarily for flat-bottom cuts.

I bought a couple of Tenryu blades, but they do not offer a flat-tooth option with the right bore for a Felder.

Is it feasible or reasonable to have a saw shop re-bore my 10” blade to fit my Felder?
--
John Hinman
Boise ID
K700S, and expecting an A941 in April 2022


 

I appreciate all of these replies!

I am not sure what you mean by fine joinery (all we do is mighty fine, right?)

The last time I bought blades was long ago, and I thought rip blades were flat-top and fewer teeth, like Jeff said. Some call a rip blade one with a steep rake angle and a deep gullet, and that describes the ATB “rip” blade I bought from Tenryu. It seems to work pretty well, although I have not done much ripping with my new saw yet.

The most demanding thing I would do with this blade is cut slots and rabbets for small box lids. I could do that with a router table, but I have done it quickly and easily with an FTG rip blade on my old cabinet saw. I’ve done channels for drawer bottoms, as well as slots/dados for door panels and larger rabbets with it also.

My old blades are all Systematic. Years ago they were supposed to be good blades, but apparently they sold out to someone who produces some poor products.
--
John Hinman
Boise ID
K700S, and expecting an A941 in April 2022


 

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John I recently ordered the Felder silent power 14tooth blade and it comes with flat bottom teeth. It’s still on sale for $53.90 and in stock.?

Here’s their description:?For time saving rip cuts. For sizing and ripping solid woods along the grain or to slot and tenon in longitudinal direction



On Mar 17, 2022, at 11:38 PM, John Hinman <jhinman1911@...> wrote:

?I appreciate all of these replies!

I am not sure what you mean by fine joinery (all we do is mighty fine, right?)

The last time I bought blades was long ago, and I thought rip blades were flat-top and fewer teeth, like Jeff said. Some call a rip blade one with a steep rake angle and a deep gullet, and that describes the ATB “rip” blade I bought from Tenryu. It seems to work pretty well, although I have not done much ripping with my new saw yet.

The most demanding thing I would do with this blade is cut slots and rabbets for small box lids. I could do that with a router table, but I have done it quickly and easily with an FTG rip blade on my old cabinet saw. I’ve done channels for drawer bottoms, as well as slots/dados for door panels and larger rabbets with it also.

My old blades are all Systematic. Years ago they were supposed to be good blades, but apparently they sold out to someone who produces some poor products.
--
John Hinman
Boise ID
K700S, and expecting an A941 in April 2022


 

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Alternatively, you can order a dado stack set as well. I have the ridge carbide dado set and you can use the outside cutters either single or doubled up for slotting work.?

On Mar 17, 2022, at 11:45 PM, Dan Gavrilyuk via groups.io <dgwoodco@...> wrote:

?
John I recently ordered the Felder silent power 14tooth blade and it comes with flat bottom teeth. It’s still on sale for $53.90 and in stock.?

Here’s their description:?For time saving rip cuts. For sizing and ripping solid woods along the grain or to slot and tenon in longitudinal direction



On Mar 17, 2022, at 11:38 PM, John Hinman <jhinman1911@...> wrote:

?I appreciate all of these replies!

I am not sure what you mean by fine joinery (all we do is mighty fine, right?)

The last time I bought blades was long ago, and I thought rip blades were flat-top and fewer teeth, like Jeff said. Some call a rip blade one with a steep rake angle and a deep gullet, and that describes the ATB “rip” blade I bought from Tenryu. It seems to work pretty well, although I have not done much ripping with my new saw yet.

The most demanding thing I would do with this blade is cut slots and rabbets for small box lids. I could do that with a router table, but I have done it quickly and easily with an FTG rip blade on my old cabinet saw. I’ve done channels for drawer bottoms, as well as slots/dados for door panels and larger rabbets with it also.

My old blades are all Systematic. Years ago they were supposed to be good blades, but apparently they sold out to someone who produces some poor products.
--
John Hinman
Boise ID
K700S, and expecting an A941 in April 2022


 

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I am not sure what you mean by fine joinery (all we do is mighty fine, right?)

This.



 

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John,

Have you looked at Ridge Carbide Tool company? ?Great blades as well.

Thx,

Wade

On Mar 17, 2022, at 8:38 PM, John Hinman <jhinman1911@...> wrote:

?I appreciate all of these replies!

I am not sure what you mean by fine joinery (all we do is mighty fine, right?)

The last time I bought blades was long ago, and I thought rip blades were flat-top and fewer teeth, like Jeff said. Some call a rip blade one with a steep rake angle and a deep gullet, and that describes the ATB “rip” blade I bought from Tenryu. It seems to work pretty well, although I have not done much ripping with my new saw yet.

The most demanding thing I would do with this blade is cut slots and rabbets for small box lids. I could do that with a router table, but I have done it quickly and easily with an FTG rip blade on my old cabinet saw. I’ve done channels for drawer bottoms, as well as slots/dados for door panels and larger rabbets with it also.

My old blades are all Systematic. Years ago they were supposed to be good blades, but apparently they sold out to someone who produces some poor products.
--
John Hinman
Boise ID
K700S, and expecting an A941 in April 2022


 

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?
Dan,

Has their dado set treated you well so far? ?I was just looking at the Ridge Carbide dado set the other day. ?I certainly love their TS2000 Super Combo Blade, 48 tooth. ?I order it without the raker teeth. ?Impressive cuts for a combo blade.

Thx,

Wade



On Mar 17, 2022, at 8:52 PM, Dan Gavrilyuk <dgwoodco@...> wrote:

?
Alternatively, you can order a dado stack set as well. I have the ridge carbide dado set and you can use the outside cutters either single or doubled up for slotting work.?

On Mar 17, 2022, at 11:45 PM, Dan Gavrilyuk via groups.io <dgwoodco@...> wrote:

?
John I recently ordered the Felder silent power 14tooth blade and it comes with flat bottom teeth. It’s still on sale for $53.90 and in stock.?

Here’s their description:?For time saving rip cuts. For sizing and ripping solid woods along the grain or to slot and tenon in longitudinal direction



On Mar 17, 2022, at 11:38 PM, John Hinman <jhinman1911@...> wrote:

?I appreciate all of these replies!

I am not sure what you mean by fine joinery (all we do is mighty fine, right?)

The last time I bought blades was long ago, and I thought rip blades were flat-top and fewer teeth, like Jeff said. Some call a rip blade one with a steep rake angle and a deep gullet, and that describes the ATB “rip” blade I bought from Tenryu. It seems to work pretty well, although I have not done much ripping with my new saw yet.

The most demanding thing I would do with this blade is cut slots and rabbets for small box lids. I could do that with a router table, but I have done it quickly and easily with an FTG rip blade on my old cabinet saw. I’ve done channels for drawer bottoms, as well as slots/dados for door panels and larger rabbets with it also.

My old blades are all Systematic. Years ago they were supposed to be good blades, but apparently they sold out to someone who produces some poor products.
--
John Hinman
Boise ID
K700S, and expecting an A941 in April 2022