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Joe, I'm thinking 3000-4500.? I don't follow NF much so I could be off.? their jointer commands a premium but I don't know if the 32" saw does.? Dave
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Sent: Monday, March 1, 2021 1:58 AM To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: [FOG] Northfield 32" Bandsaw ?
What is a 32" Northfield bandsaw be worth?? I will call Northfield monday with the serial number to check the age. Looks relatively new.? 5HP direct drive motor.
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开云体育I ended up buying it for $2850 plus the premium.? I’ve not yet picked it up.? Got the history from Northfield, pretty cool that they keep all that.? They told me to call back if I win the auction and they will add me to the owner history…joe ? From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
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Sent: Monday, March 1, 2021 8:19 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [FOG] Northfield 32" Bandsaw ? Joe, I'm thinking 3000-4500.? I don't follow NF much so I could be off.? their jointer commands a premium but I don't know if the 32" saw does.? Dave ? From:
[email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Joe Jensen <joe.jensen@...> ? What is a 32" Northfield bandsaw be worth?? I will call Northfield monday with the serial number to check the age. Looks relatively new.? 5HP direct drive motor. |
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Good to hear.? I have an Oliver 116 that i should sell and figured 3000-3500 so that is close.? Did you see the Kundig on WW ?? Dave
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Sent: Wednesday, March 3, 2021 6:35 PM To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [FOG] Northfield 32" Bandsaw ?
I ended up buying it for $2850 plus the premium.? I’ve not yet picked it up.? Got the history from Northfield, pretty cool that they keep all that.? They told me to call back if I win the auction and they will add me to the owner history…joe ?
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David Kumm ? Joe, I'm thinking 3000-4500.? I don't follow NF much so I could be off.? their jointer commands a premium but I don't know if the 32" saw does.? Dave ?
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[email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Joe Jensen <joe.jensen@...> ? What is a 32" Northfield bandsaw be worth?? I will call Northfield monday with the serial number to check the age. Looks relatively new.? 5HP direct drive motor.
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开云体育I did not see the Kundig, what is WW? ? From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
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Sent: Wednesday, March 3, 2021 4:44 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [FOG] Northfield 32" Bandsaw ? Good to hear.? I have an Oliver 116 that i should sell and figured 3000-3500 so that is close.? Did you see the Kundig on WW ?? Dave ? From:
[email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Joe Jensen <joe.jensen@...> ? I ended up buying it for $2850 plus the premium.? I’ve not yet picked it up.? Got the history from Northfield, pretty cool that they keep all that.? They told me to call back if I win the auction and they will add me to the owner history…joe ? From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
On Behalf Of David Kumm ? Joe, I'm thinking 3000-4500.? I don't follow NF much so I could be off.? their jointer commands a premium but I don't know if the 32" saw does.? Dave ? From:
[email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Joe Jensen <joe.jensen@...> ? What is a 32" Northfield bandsaw be worth?? I will call Northfield monday with the serial number to check the age. Looks relatively new.? 5HP direct drive motor. |
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Joe Jensen <joe.jensen@...>
Sent: Wednesday, March 3, 2021 7:12 PM To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [FOG] Northfield 32" Bandsaw ?
I did not see the Kundig, what is WW? ?
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David Kumm ? Good to hear.? I have an Oliver 116 that i should sell and figured 3000-3500 so that is close.? Did you see the Kundig on WW ?? Dave ?
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[email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Joe Jensen <joe.jensen@...> ? I ended up buying it for $2850 plus the premium.? I’ve not yet picked it up.? Got the history from Northfield, pretty cool that they keep all that.? They told me to call back if I win the auction and they will add me to the owner history…joe ?
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On Behalf Of David Kumm ? Joe, I'm thinking 3000-4500.? I don't follow NF much so I could be off.? their jointer commands a premium but I don't know if the 32" saw does.? Dave ?
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[email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Joe Jensen <joe.jensen@...> ? What is a 32" Northfield bandsaw be worth?? I will call Northfield monday with the serial number to check the age. Looks relatively new.? 5HP direct drive motor.
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开云体育Pics of that machine have been on various sites for a long time.? Went to the dealers site and they have the same two pics of the machine in a barn and now two pics of a Kundig under power.? Not sure if the same machine.? I think it’s been on Exfactory, Ebay, and now woodweb. ? From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
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Sent: Wednesday, March 3, 2021 5:15 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [FOG] Northfield 32" Bandsaw ? Machinery Exchange at woodweb.com ? From:
[email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Joe Jensen <joe.jensen@...> ? I did not see the Kundig, what is WW? ? From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
On Behalf Of David Kumm ? Good to hear.? I have an Oliver 116 that i should sell and figured 3000-3500 so that is close.? Did you see the Kundig on WW ?? Dave ? From:
[email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Joe Jensen <joe.jensen@...> ? I ended up buying it for $2850 plus the premium.? I’ve not yet picked it up.? Got the history from Northfield, pretty cool that they keep all that.? They told me to call back if I win the auction and they will add me to the owner history…joe ? From:
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On Behalf Of David Kumm ? Joe, I'm thinking 3000-4500.? I don't follow NF much so I could be off.? their jointer commands a premium but I don't know if the 32" saw does.? Dave ? From:
[email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Joe Jensen <joe.jensen@...> ? What is a 32" Northfield bandsaw be worth?? I will call Northfield monday with the serial number to check the age. Looks relatively new.? 5HP direct drive motor. |
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I thought I saw it before but I only notice it because of you so it doesn't make long term memory..? There was another Kundig but it looked tough so I didn't pay attention.? They only come up a few times a year and 37" are even more rare.? Dave
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Sent: Wednesday, March 3, 2021 8:15 PM To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [FOG] Northfield 32" Bandsaw ?
Pics of that machine have been on various sites for a long time.? Went to the dealers site and they have the same two pics of the machine in a barn and now two pics of a Kundig under power.? Not sure if the same machine.? I think it’s been on Exfactory, Ebay, and now woodweb. ?
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David Kumm ? Machinery Exchange at woodweb.com ?
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[email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Joe Jensen <joe.jensen@...> ? I did not see the Kundig, what is WW? ?
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On Behalf Of David Kumm ? Good to hear.? I have an Oliver 116 that i should sell and figured 3000-3500 so that is close.? Did you see the Kundig on WW ?? Dave ?
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[email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Joe Jensen <joe.jensen@...> ? I ended up buying it for $2850 plus the premium.? I’ve not yet picked it up.? Got the history from Northfield, pretty cool that they keep all that.? They told me to call back if I win the auction and they will add me to the owner history…joe ?
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On Behalf Of David Kumm ? Joe, I'm thinking 3000-4500.? I don't follow NF much so I could be off.? their jointer commands a premium but I don't know if the 32" saw does.? Dave ?
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[email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Joe Jensen <joe.jensen@...> ? What is a 32" Northfield bandsaw be worth?? I will call Northfield monday with the serial number to check the age. Looks relatively new.? 5HP direct drive motor.
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I ended up winning the auction for the Northfield 32" bandsaw.? I was able to pick it up Saturday.? I am mid-restoration on a 30" Tannewitz PH bandsaw and it's interesting to compare the two. The resaw height, overall machine height, table size, and working height are all nearly identical.? The Tannewitz has a 3HP 900RPM motor and the Northfield has a 5HP 900 RPM motor.? The Northfield is a couple hundred pound lighter according to the spec sheets but in direct comparison it seems to be quite a bit lighter build.? On the Tannewitz, the upper wheel bearing assembly, all the height adjusting stuff, blade support, etc are common with the Tannewitz 36" saw.? They are all quite a bit heavier than the Northfield.? Both may be plenty heavy, not sure as I have not run them. Also, main casting on the Tannewitz is thicker where I can feel with my fingers than the Northfield and the table castings are heavier.??
? Any thoughts? Also, does the width of the blade, 3/4" carbide,1" carbide, or 1 1/4" carbide blade make much of difference? |
Also, the owner I bought from purchased used in 2006. He restored it including having Northfield true and balance the wheels and put on new tires.? New pads on the carter guides, etc.? Owner never put it in service and it sat on a pallet unused since 2006.? Fresh paint too.? Should just needs power.
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What you are describing matches what I have been told by others who have compared NF with Tanny or Oliver.? The tension spring and mechanism might have more to do with which to use for resawing than the castings but only using each will tell the true story.?
I would avoid the 1.25" Carbide blade on either.? The .035" band on the 3/4 or 1" will be easier to tension than the .042 on the 1 1/4.? My Olivers tension the 1" but I have no experience with the thicker band.? Dave
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Sent: Monday, March 22, 2021 4:00 PM To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [FOG] Northfield 32" Bandsaw ?
Also, the owner I bought from purchased used in 2006. He restored it including having Northfield true and balance the wheels and put on new tires.? New pads on the carter guides, etc.? Owner never put it in service and it sat on a pallet unused since 2006.?
Fresh paint too.? Should just needs power.
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开云体育I spoke with people at both Tannewitz and Northfield on these saws.? Interestingly both unprompted offered that the internet groups obsession with 25,000 psi was flat out wrong. ?The Northfield guy said that’s a spec for horizontal steel cutting bandsaws and irrelevant for wood saws. ?I being an engineer have a Starrett Bandsaw tension gauge so I’ve been tensioning with that for years.? With my Felder FB540 I can’t get the 1” carbide blade over about 20,000 psi.? that said, it cuts perfectly and it always has.? I played with it at 15,000 and 20,000 and I notice no difference.? Having been at this for 40 years I never knew about tension gauges and always tensioned until the blade was “just taut enough”.? That always worked unless the blade was dull or you feed the stock too fast.? ? Is there a big benefit of a 1 ?” blade over a 1” blade over a ?” blade for sawing veneers? ? From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
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Sent: Monday, March 22, 2021 1:23 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [FOG] Northfield 32" Bandsaw ? What you are describing matches what I have been told by others who have compared NF with Tanny or Oliver.? The tension spring and mechanism might have more to do with which to use for resawing than the castings but only using each will tell the true story.? I would avoid the 1.25" Carbide blade on either.? The .035" band on the 3/4 or 1" will be easier to tension than the .042 on the 1 1/4.? My Olivers tension the 1" but I have no experience with the thicker band.? Dave ? From:
[email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Joe Jensen <joe.jensen@...> ? Also, the owner I bought from purchased used in 2006. He restored it including having Northfield true and balance the wheels and put on new tires.? New pads on the carter guides, etc.? Owner never put it in service and it sat on a pallet unused since 2006.? Fresh paint too.? Should just needs power. |
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Joe, I can't speak to the larger blade.? The tension arguments go on forever.? My experience is not that different than yours although I see an improvement- slight but still an improvement - with 25K vs lower.? Mainly when using the full height of the resaw
and also to keep the blade from moving into the rear bearing.? I try to keep the blade from heating up from rubbing the bearing.? I don't have any scientific evidence, I just know I haven't broken any blades at 25K and I broke Trimaster blades at lower tension.?
Dave
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Joe Jensen <joe.jensen@...>
Sent: Monday, March 22, 2021 4:36 PM To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [FOG] Northfield 32" Bandsaw ?
I spoke with people at both Tannewitz and Northfield on these saws.? Interestingly both unprompted offered that the internet groups obsession with 25,000 psi was flat out wrong. ?The Northfield guy said that’s a spec for horizontal steel cutting bandsaws and irrelevant for wood saws. ?I being an engineer have a Starrett Bandsaw tension gauge so I’ve been tensioning with that for years.? With my Felder FB540 I can’t get the 1” carbide blade over about 20,000 psi.? that said, it cuts perfectly and it always has.? I played with it at 15,000 and 20,000 and I notice no difference.? Having been at this for 40 years I never knew about tension gauges and always tensioned until the blade was “just taut enough”.? That always worked unless the blade was dull or you feed the stock too fast.? ? Is there a big benefit of a 1 ?” blade over a 1” blade over a ?” blade for sawing veneers? ?
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David Kumm ? What you are describing matches what I have been told by others who have compared NF with Tanny or Oliver.? The tension spring and mechanism might have more to do with which to use for resawing than the castings but only using each will tell the true story.? I would avoid the 1.25" Carbide blade on either.? The .035" band on the 3/4 or 1" will be easier to tension than the .042 on the 1 1/4.? My Olivers tension the 1" but I have no experience with the thicker band.? Dave ?
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[email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Joe Jensen <joe.jensen@...> ? Also, the owner I bought from purchased used in 2006. He restored it including having Northfield true and balance the wheels and put on new tires.? New pads on the carter guides, etc.? Owner never put it in service and it sat on a pallet unused since 2006.? Fresh paint too.? Should just needs power.
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开云体育Blade breakage may be a point.? The only time I broke a big blade was when it was rubbing a lot on the ceramic rear rub disk with Laguna guides. ? From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
On Behalf Of David Kumm
Sent: Monday, March 22, 2021 2:23 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [FOG] Northfield 32" Bandsaw ? Joe, I can't speak to the larger blade.? The tension arguments go on forever.? My experience is not that different than yours although I see an improvement- slight but still an improvement - with 25K vs lower.? Mainly when using the full height of the resaw and also to keep the blade from moving into the rear bearing.? I try to keep the blade from heating up from rubbing the bearing.? I don't have any scientific evidence, I just know I haven't broken any blades at 25K and I broke Trimaster blades at lower tension.? Dave ? From:
[email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Joe Jensen <joe.jensen@...> ? I spoke with people at both Tannewitz and Northfield on these saws.? Interestingly both unprompted offered that the internet groups obsession with 25,000 psi was flat out wrong. ?The Northfield guy said that’s a spec for horizontal steel cutting bandsaws and irrelevant for wood saws. ?I being an engineer have a Starrett Bandsaw tension gauge so I’ve been tensioning with that for years.? With my Felder FB540 I can’t get the 1” carbide blade over about 20,000 psi.? that said, it cuts perfectly and it always has.? I played with it at 15,000 and 20,000 and I notice no difference.? Having been at this for 40 years I never knew about tension gauges and always tensioned until the blade was “just taut enough”.? That always worked unless the blade was dull or you feed the stock too fast.? ? Is there a big benefit of a 1 ?” blade over a 1” blade over a ?” blade for sawing veneers? ? From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
On Behalf Of David Kumm ? What you are describing matches what I have been told by others who have compared NF with Tanny or Oliver.? The tension spring and mechanism might have more to do with which to use for resawing than the castings but only using each will tell the true story.? I would avoid the 1.25" Carbide blade on either.? The .035" band on the 3/4 or 1" will be easier to tension than the .042 on the 1 1/4.? My Olivers tension the 1" but I have no experience with the thicker band.? Dave ? From:
[email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Joe Jensen <joe.jensen@...> ? Also, the owner I bought from purchased used in 2006. He restored it including having Northfield true and balance the wheels and put on new tires.? New pads on the carter guides, etc.? Owner never put it in service and it sat on a pallet unused since 2006.? Fresh paint too.? Should just needs power. |
开云体育FWIW, I have sawed 1/16” thick veneer on my LT16SEC with Laguna 1” resaw king. It was 2x12 Cypress and I just did it to check the resaw king blade. I was blown away with uniformity, maybe I am easily amused. I am sure my bandsaw is no where close to suggested tension. Imran On Mar 22, 2021, at 5:42 PM, Joe Jensen <joe.jensen@...> wrote:
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Blade breakage may be a point.? The only time I broke a big blade was when it was rubbing a lot on the ceramic rear rub disk with Laguna guides. ? From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
On Behalf Of David Kumm ? Joe, I can't speak to the larger blade.? The tension arguments go on forever.? My experience is not that different than yours although I see an improvement- slight but still an improvement - with 25K vs lower.? Mainly when using the full height of the resaw and also to keep the blade from moving into the rear bearing.? I try to keep the blade from heating up from rubbing the bearing.? I don't have any scientific evidence, I just know I haven't broken any blades at 25K and I broke Trimaster blades at lower tension.? Dave ? From:
[email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Joe Jensen <joe.jensen@...> ? I spoke with people at both Tannewitz and Northfield on these saws.? Interestingly both unprompted offered that the internet groups obsession with 25,000 psi was flat out wrong. ?The Northfield guy said that’s a spec for horizontal steel cutting bandsaws and irrelevant for wood saws. ?I being an engineer have a Starrett Bandsaw tension gauge so I’ve been tensioning with that for years.? With my Felder FB540 I can’t get the 1” carbide blade over about 20,000 psi.? that said, it cuts perfectly and it always has.? I played with it at 15,000 and 20,000 and I notice no difference.? Having been at this for 40 years I never knew about tension gauges and always tensioned until the blade was “just taut enough”.? That always worked unless the blade was dull or you feed the stock too fast.? ? Is there a big benefit of a 1 ?” blade over a 1” blade over a ?” blade for sawing veneers? ? From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
On Behalf Of David Kumm ? What you are describing matches what I have been told by others who have compared NF with Tanny or Oliver.? The tension spring and mechanism might have more to do with which to use for resawing than the castings but only using each will tell the true story.? I would avoid the 1.25" Carbide blade on either.? The .035" band on the 3/4 or 1" will be easier to tension than the .042 on the 1 1/4.? My Olivers tension the 1" but I have no experience with the thicker band.? Dave ? From:
[email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Joe Jensen <joe.jensen@...> ? Also, the owner I bought from purchased used in 2006. He restored it including having Northfield true and balance the wheels and put on new tires.? New pads on the carter guides, etc.? Owner never put it in service and it sat on a pallet unused since 2006.? Fresh paint too.? Should just needs power. |
开云体育Joe ,I run 1.5” woodmizer blades on my 36” oliver with Centauro power feed. They make to spec. Bi mental I think and about 50.00 ea or there abouts . Woodmiser sharpens for maybe 15 or 20 bucks. Blades are good for 3 to 5 sharpening. I am going to be resawing 20’ clear quarter sawn Douglas Fir 2x6 in a week or two for paneling. mac,,, martin/campshure/co/llc Designing and building for 50 years On Mar 22, 2021, at 6:59 PM, imranindiana via groups.io <imranindiana@...> wrote:
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开云体育Mac, nobody has been able to explain why a wider blade is better for resawing.? Why the 1.5” instead of 1.25” or 1” ? ? From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
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Sent: Monday, March 22, 2021 8:57 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [FOG] Northfield 32" Bandsaw ? Joe , I run 1.5” woodmizer blades on my 36” oliver with Centauro power feed. They make to spec. Bi mental I think and about 50.00 ea or there abouts . Woodmiser sharpens for maybe 15 or 20 bucks. Blades are good for 3 to 5 sharpening. I am going to be resawing 20’ clear quarter sawn Douglas Fir 2x6 in a week or two for paneling. ? ? martin/campshure/co/llc Designing and building for 50 years
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I always thought it was because the wider the blade the less flex. Think of a 2 foot wide blade on a 2 foot wheel.? But I could be wrong, waiting to hear. Bull Bélanger? On Tue, Mar 23, 2021 at 09:02 Joe Jensen <joe.jensen@...> wrote:
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