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Felder circle cutting jig (was Re: [FOG] Home-brew table extension rails for off-brand machines)


 

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Tom Gensmer
Heritage Home Renewals, LLC
Minneapolis, MN
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Hi Tom,


I see you use the Felder circle cutting jig. How satisfied are you with it?


Always wondered how it is attached to the table. Is there some sort of nut riding in the slot of the table?


Regards,


Jonathan


 

Hi Jonathan!?

I haven't had a chance to use the Aigner/Felder circle cutting jig quite yet, but here are my impressions based on handling it:

-- Jig is made out of machined baltic birch -style plywood and steel.?
-- Jig ships in three basic parts: Primary part of the jig, a support piece, and a wrench
-- Primary part of the jig attaches to aluminum table extension (Aigner or Felder) via a steel bar that slides into the t-slot, fastened through the top of the jig using the supplied spanner wrench
-- The support piece uses a pair of magnets to fasten to the cast iron top. I've seen some photos that indicate that, at least at one time, there was a version that attached to the Aigner or Felder mounting bars, so there may be multiple versions out there
-- The spanner wrench has a little steel tube welded on to the top, which holds the hardware for fastening the material to the jig, either a sharp brad point, or a 8mm stud. Either hardware is fixed to the jig via a threaded stud.?
-- The jig can be flipped upside down to accommodate different feed directions. For instance, the jig can swing "left-to-right" for a band saw, or "right-to-left" for a shaper or edge sander.?
-- Using the Felder aluminum table extension (1m), it looks like maximum cutting diameter is in the ~48"-50" range, at least on my saw. I'm aware that the Aigner table extensions can be linked together, so with that setup your diameter is limited by your available shop space.....
-- I primarily intend to use this jig on my band saw, but I can see some interesting uses with a shaper and/or oscillating edge sander.?

I hope this helps!



Tom Gensmer
Heritage Home Renewals, LLC
Minneapolis, MN


 

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Why not just make a sliding t nut with a point you put in the grove of the outboard extension?

Philip Davidson?

On Dec 6, 2020, at 10:27 AM, tom@... wrote:

?Hi Jonathan!?

I haven't had a chance to use the Aigner/Felder circle cutting jig quite yet, but here are my impressions based on handling it:

-- Jig is made out of machined baltic birch -style plywood and steel.?
-- Jig ships in three basic parts: Primary part of the jig, a support piece, and a wrench
-- Primary part of the jig attaches to aluminum table extension (Aigner or Felder) via a steel bar that slides into the t-slot, fastened through the top of the jig using the supplied spanner wrench
-- The support piece uses a pair of magnets to fasten to the cast iron top. I've seen some photos that indicate that, at least at one time, there was a version that attached to the Aigner or Felder mounting bars, so there may be multiple versions out there
-- The spanner wrench has a little steel tube welded on to the top, which holds the hardware for fastening the material to the jig, either a sharp brad point, or a 8mm stud. Either hardware is fixed to the jig via a threaded stud.?
-- The jig can be flipped upside down to accommodate different feed directions. For instance, the jig can swing "left-to-right" for a band saw, or "right-to-left" for a shaper or edge sander.?
-- Using the Felder aluminum table extension (1m), it looks like maximum cutting diameter is in the ~48"-50" range, at least on my saw. I'm aware that the Aigner table extensions can be linked together, so with that setup your diameter is limited by your available shop space.....
-- I primarily intend to use this jig on my band saw, but I can see some interesting uses with a shaper and/or oscillating edge sander.?

I hope this helps!

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Tom Gensmer
Heritage Home Renewals, LLC
Minneapolis, MN

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Philip
davidsonukuleles.com


 

Philip, the trick is getting the blade into the material to make the cut. Having a fixed, sliding t-nut would require cutting the square blank to the exact finished diameter, then perfectly centering it on the t-nut. There are numerous circle-cutting jigs on the market, most of them have some sort of "swing" element that sweeps the work into the blade, then rotates around a fixed point. This allows you to slightly oversize your square blank, and being perfectly centered is less critical.?

The appeal to me of the Aigner/Felder jig is how simple it is, and how well it integrates into the table extensions. The other candidate I considered was the Carter jig, but then I'd be tied to only using on a band saw (with standard 3/8"x3/4" miter slot), whereas the Aigner/Felder jigs works on any machine you can mount a table extension to (bandsaw, edge sander, shaper, router table, etc....). Everybody's wants/needs are going to be different, for me it was more than worth it to buy the ready-made solution.?

https://us.feldershop.com/en-US/en-US/en-US/en-US/Sawing/Accessories/Bandsaw-accessories/Circular-cutting-device-Circular-mill-facility.html?force_sid=mttpv6438efkmn9dpo94516vg1
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Tom Gensmer
Heritage Home Renewals, LLC
Minneapolis, MN


 

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That makes sense. ?Thank you.

Philip Davidson?

On Dec 6, 2020, at 1:43 PM, tom@... wrote:

?Philip, the trick is getting the blade into the material to make the cut. Having a fixed, sliding t-nut would require cutting the square blank to the exact finished diameter, then perfectly centering it on the t-nut. There are numerous circle-cutting jigs on the market, most of them have some sort of "swing" element that sweeps the work into the blade, then rotates around a fixed point. This allows you to slightly oversize your square blank, and being perfectly centered is less critical.?

The appeal to me of the Aigner/Felder jig is how simple it is, and how well it integrates into the table extensions. The other candidate I considered was the Carter jig, but then I'd be tied to only using on a band saw (with standard 3/8"x3/4" miter slot), whereas the Aigner/Felder jigs works on any machine you can mount a table extension to (bandsaw, edge sander, shaper, router table, etc....). Everybody's wants/needs are going to be different, for me it was more than worth it to buy the ready-made solution.?

https://us.feldershop.com/en-US/en-US/en-US/en-US/Sawing/Accessories/Bandsaw-accessories/Circular-cutting-device-Circular-mill-facility.html?force_sid=mttpv6438efkmn9dpo94516vg1
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Tom Gensmer
Heritage Home Renewals, LLC
Minneapolis, MN

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Philip
davidsonukuleles.com


 

On 06/12/2020 16:27, tom@... wrote:
Hi Jonathan!

I haven't had a chance to use the Aigner/Felder circle cutting jig quite yet, but here are my impressions based on handling it:

-- Jig is made out of machined baltic birch -style plywood and steel.
-- Jig ships in three basic parts: Primary part of the jig, a support piece, and a wrench
-- Primary part of the jig attaches to aluminum table extension (Aigner or Felder) via a steel bar that slides into the t-slot, fastened through the top of the jig using the supplied spanner wrench
-- The support piece uses a pair of magnets to fasten to the cast iron top. I've seen some photos that indicate that, at least at one time, there was a version that attached to the Aigner or Felder mounting bars, so there may be multiple versions out there
-- The spanner wrench has a little steel tube welded on to the top, which holds the hardware for fastening the material to the jig, either a sharp brad point, or a 8mm stud. Either hardware is fixed to the jig via a threaded stud.
-- The jig can be flipped upside down to accommodate different feed directions. For instance, the jig can swing "left-to-right" for a band saw, or "right-to-left" for a shaper or edge sander.
-- Using the Felder aluminum table extension (1m), it looks like maximum cutting diameter is in the ~48"-50" range, at least on my saw. I'm aware that the Aigner table extensions can be linked together, so with that setup your diameter is limited by your available shop space.....
-- I primarily intend to use this jig on my band saw, but I can see some interesting uses with a shaper and/or oscillating edge sander.

I hope this helps!
Thanks for your extensive and detailed message, this surely helps a lot. I was not aware of the reversibility, which is an additional pro to me since I have both band saw and shaper as well as the extension table with leg.


Regards,


Jonathan