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Any pictures out there of aftermarket rip fence DRO installs? #whysoexpensive


 

Need some pictures please!

Looking to get a KF700SP - Quoted and ready to put the deposit down.? Anybody have a nice aftermarket DRO setup on a newer Felder Rip fence?

The factory option seems pricy.? It is possible to add the factory one at a later date.? Just wondering how the aftermarket systems "Look" on the saw.

TIA
PK


 

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I would suggest factory, you can do after market for about $350 + you need a bracket. With factory you get a heavier fence. Don’t think the felder dro can be added at a later date without a lot of hassle and expense, the fence and way it locates is different than the non dro.?

Regards, Mark

On Dec 3, 2020, at 12:15 PM, PK <paul.kellymjc@...> wrote:

?Need some pictures please!

Looking to get a KF700SP - Quoted and ready to put the deposit down.? Anybody have a nice aftermarket DRO setup on a newer Felder Rip fence?

The factory option seems pricy.? It is possible to add the factory one at a later date.? Just wondering how the aftermarket systems "Look" on the saw.

TIA
PK


 

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not aware of plug & play but there are DIY options. search noble artisan on utube. if you don’t find it let me know. i can post link when back home in couple of hrs. it has been shared here multiple times so you can try searching here as well.

imran?

On Dec 3, 2020, at 12:15 PM, PK <paul.kellymjc@...> wrote:

?Need some pictures please!

Looking to get a KF700SP - Quoted and ready to put the deposit down.? Anybody have a nice aftermarket DRO setup on a newer Felder Rip fence?

The factory option seems pricy.? It is possible to add the factory one at a later date.? Just wondering how the aftermarket systems "Look" on the saw.

TIA
PK


 

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Forgot to mention Brian Lamb has a very nice DRO flip stop available if you go with the non DRO fence on the new saw and change your mind later

Regards, Mark

On Dec 3, 2020, at 12:40 PM, imranindiana via groups.io <imranindiana@...> wrote:

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not aware of plug & play but there are DIY options. search noble artisan on utube. if you don’t find it let me know. i can post link when back home in couple of hrs. it has been shared here multiple times so you can try searching here as well.

imran?

On Dec 3, 2020, at 12:15 PM, PK <paul.kellymjc@...> wrote:

?Need some pictures please!

Looking to get a KF700SP - Quoted and ready to put the deposit down.? Anybody have a nice aftermarket DRO setup on a newer Felder Rip fence?

The factory option seems pricy.? It is possible to add the factory one at a later date.? Just wondering how the aftermarket systems "Look" on the saw.

TIA
PK


 
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I looked at the same for a K500 and for the rip side Imran is correct. This video is the best I found and was referenced when I asked a few weeks ago. I got a quote for the part and it was around $300-$350 depending on the options.

However, you will have to drill your rip fence block and some other parts. As I am looking to upgrade my saw in the future I did not look further.

As already said, Brian's aftermarket solution is for the outrigger fence and works only on a specific size (width) of outrigger fence and of course did not work on my outrigger fence.

Might be of interrest to you, when you order a saw or other machines from Felder, they do have some preconfigured machines/quotes that end up at a lower price that ordering the same machine with a custom quote. You can always add things to the preconfigured machine as your machine will be built on order, but you cannot remove things without looking at a huge price INCREASE....... You might be surprised about the effect of removing a small crew worth 1$ to the final price.

Bill


 

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I make a crosscut fence DRO but nothing for the rip fence. It’s honestly so easy, you stick the banding into the extrusion on the machine and make a little l bracket out of some angle aluminum and mount the read head so it runs within about 1mm of the banding and you are good to go.?

Just a heads up, Fiama units will not be available from Automation Continuum any longer. Joe Slovak, the owner, passed away about a month or so back. There is a new dealer in Louisiana but I haven’t contacted them yet as I had just completed an order for units before they shut down Automation Continuum. I don’t know the new folks yet, been dealing direct with the factory on my last order.

Brian Lamb
blamb11@...
www.lambtoolworks.com




On Dec 3, 2020, at 10:15 AM, PK <paul.kellymjc@...> wrote:

Need some pictures please!

Looking to get a KF700SP - Quoted and ready to put the deposit down.? Anybody have a nice aftermarket DRO setup on a newer Felder Rip fence?

The factory option seems pricy.? It is possible to add the factory one at a later date.? Just wondering how the aftermarket systems "Look" on the saw.

TIA
PK


 

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To totally missed the rip fence part... yea that one is real easy

Regards, Mark



On Dec 3, 2020, at 8:10 PM, Brian Lamb <blamb11@...> wrote:

?I make a crosscut fence DRO but nothing for the rip fence. It’s honestly so easy, you stick the banding into the extrusion on the machine and make a little l bracket out of some angle aluminum and mount the read head so it runs within about 1mm of the banding and you are good to go.?

Just a heads up, Fiama units will not be available from Automation Continuum any longer. Joe Slovak, the owner, passed away about a month or so back. There is a new dealer in Louisiana but I haven’t contacted them yet as I had just completed an order for units before they shut down Automation Continuum. I don’t know the new folks yet, been dealing direct with the factory on my last order.

Brian Lamb
blamb11@...
www.lambtoolworks.com




On Dec 3, 2020, at 10:15 AM, PK <paul.kellymjc@...> wrote:

Need some pictures please!

Looking to get a KF700SP - Quoted and ready to put the deposit down.? Anybody have a nice aftermarket DRO setup on a newer Felder Rip fence?

The factory option seems pricy.? It is possible to add the factory one at a later date.? Just wondering how the aftermarket systems "Look" on the saw.

TIA
PK


 

Newish Felder owner, first time posting...

I bought a K700P this summer and added a Wixey DRO to the rip fence. The Wixey head and mag strip don't fit the extrusion on the front edge of the table, so I made another "extrusion" out of hardwood scrap to fit into the existing extrusion and present a profile that works for the Wixey. The hardwood piece is simply double-side taped in place, no permanent modification.

My "extrusion" pushes the head out a little farther than necessary, could have been about 1/8" thinner and still work well.

As for cost, the Wixey is pretty inexpensive. I figured if this didn't work out, I could use it on something else or sell it without being out much. But so far, it works well, not that I use it all that much.











 

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mkornell,

Thanks for sharing. how is the wixey display attached to the fence housing?

imran

On Dec 4, 2020, at 7:23 AM, mkornell@... wrote:

?Newish Felder owner, first time posting...

I bought a K700P this summer and added a Wixey DRO to the rip fence. The Wixey head and mag strip don't fit the extrusion on the front edge of the table, so I made another "extrusion" out of hardwood scrap to fit into the existing extrusion and present a profile that works for the Wixey. The hardwood piece is simply double-side taped in place, no permanent modification.

My "extrusion" pushes the head out a little farther than necessary, could have been about 1/8" thinner and still work well.

As for cost, the Wixey is pretty inexpensive. I figured if this didn't work out, I could use it on something else or sell it without being out much. But so far, it works well, not that I use it all that much.



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Wixey is not a “mag” strip dro, it uses an encoder rail which means the dro head and/or reader and rail are “connected” which means if you want to flip the fence out of the way you can’t unless you disconnect it some how. I don’t flip the fence out of the way that often but enough that I wouldn’t want to do any extra work to do it.?

Plus the wixy’s are questionable I know alot have had good luck but with the one that i had was iffy, but i was using an accurate technology one for many years with no issues which may have made me more biased to more robust solutions?

Regards, Mark



On Dec 4, 2020, at 8:00 AM, imranindiana via groups.io <imranindiana@...> wrote:

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mkornell,

Thanks for sharing. how is the wixey display attached to the fence housing?

imran

On Dec 4, 2020, at 7:23 AM, mkornell@... wrote:

?Newish Felder owner, first time posting...

I bought a K700P this summer and added a Wixey DRO to the rip fence. The Wixey head and mag strip don't fit the extrusion on the front edge of the table, so I made another "extrusion" out of hardwood scrap to fit into the existing extrusion and present a profile that works for the Wixey. The hardwood piece is simply double-side taped in place, no permanent modification.

My "extrusion" pushes the head out a little farther than necessary, could have been about 1/8" thinner and still work well.

As for cost, the Wixey is pretty inexpensive. I figured if this didn't work out, I could use it on something else or sell it without being out much. But so far, it works well, not that I use it all that much.



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Mark,

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That is the reason I asked the question of how it is attached to the fence housing. If it is done with a magnet then one could separate for flipping the fence, which I also do often enough. Even if the OP did not use magnet, I wonder if it could work from registration point of view.

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Imran

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From: [email protected] On Behalf Of Mark Kessler
Sent: Friday, December 04, 2020 8:07 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [FOG] Any pictures out there of aftermarket rip fence DRO installs? #whysoexpensive

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Wixey is not a “mag” strip dro, it uses an encoder rail which means the dro head and/or reader and rail are “connected” which means if you want to flip the fence out of the way you can’t unless you disconnect it some how. I don’t flip the fence out of the way that often but enough that I wouldn’t want to do any extra work to do it.?

?

Plus the wixy’s are questionable I know alot have had good luck but with the one that i had was iffy, but i was using an accurate technology one for many years with no issues which may have made me more biased to more robust solutions?

Regards, Mark

?

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On Dec 4, 2020, at 8:00 AM, imranindiana via groups.io <imranindiana@...> wrote:

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mkornell,

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Thanks for sharing. how is the wixey display attached to the fence housing?

?

imran


On Dec 4, 2020, at 7:23 AM, mkornell@... wrote:

?Newish Felder owner, first time posting...

I bought a K700P this summer and added a Wixey DRO to the rip fence. The Wixey head and mag strip don't fit the extrusion on the front edge of the table, so I made another "extrusion" out of hardwood scrap to fit into the existing extrusion and present a profile that works for the Wixey. The hardwood piece is simply double-side taped in place, no permanent modification.

My "extrusion" pushes the head out a little farther than necessary, could have been about 1/8" thinner and still work well.

As for cost, the Wixey is pretty inexpensive. I figured if this didn't work out, I could use it on something else or sell it without being out much. But so far, it works well, not that I use it all that much.


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I don’t know how the wixy works but the accurate technology reader i had was “keyed” to the encoder rail so you would have to disconnect a cable from he head to do that, doable but for me a hassle - i mean we have these fancy saws is $350 going to brake the bank, of course that is me I am still working and not retired....

Regards, Mark



On Dec 4, 2020, at 8:26 AM, imranindiana via groups.io <imranindiana@...> wrote:

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Mark,

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That is the reason I asked the question of how it is attached to the fence housing. If it is done with a magnet then one could separate for flipping the fence, which I also do often enough. Even if the OP did not use magnet, I wonder if it could work from registration point of view.

?

Imran

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From: [email protected] On Behalf Of Mark Kessler
Sent: Friday, December 04, 2020 8:07 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [FOG] Any pictures out there of aftermarket rip fence DRO installs? #whysoexpensive

?

Wixey is not a “mag” strip dro, it uses an encoder rail which means the dro head and/or reader and rail are “connected” which means if you want to flip the fence out of the way you can’t unless you disconnect it some how. I don’t flip the fence out of the way that often but enough that I wouldn’t want to do any extra work to do it.?

?

Plus the wixy’s are questionable I know alot have had good luck but with the one that i had was iffy, but i was using an accurate technology one for many years with no issues which may have made me more biased to more robust solutions?

Regards, Mark

?

?



On Dec 4, 2020, at 8:00 AM, imranindiana via groups.io <imranindiana@...> wrote:

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mkornell,

?

Thanks for sharing. how is the wixey display attached to the fence housing?

?

imran


On Dec 4, 2020, at 7:23 AM, mkornell@... wrote:

?Newish Felder owner, first time posting...

I bought a K700P this summer and added a Wixey DRO to the rip fence. The Wixey head and mag strip don't fit the extrusion on the front edge of the table, so I made another "extrusion" out of hardwood scrap to fit into the existing extrusion and present a profile that works for the Wixey. The hardwood piece is simply double-side taped in place, no permanent modification.

My "extrusion" pushes the head out a little farther than necessary, could have been about 1/8" thinner and still work well.

As for cost, the Wixey is pretty inexpensive. I figured if this didn't work out, I could use it on something else or sell it without being out much. But so far, it works well, not that I use it all that much.


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Mark,

sometimes i ask the question just to have an answer documented here. i am not sure what my plan is. too many more compelling things ahead of adding DRO to the rip fence ?

Imran

On Dec 4, 2020, at 8:44 AM, Mark Kessler <mkessler10@...> wrote:

?I don’t know how the wixy works but the accurate technology reader i had was “keyed” to the encoder rail so you would have to disconnect a cable from he head to do that, doable but for me a hassle - i mean we have these fancy saws is $350 going to brake the bank, of course that is me I am still working and not retired....

Regards, Mark



On Dec 4, 2020, at 8:26 AM, imranindiana via groups.io <imranindiana@...> wrote:

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Mark,

?

That is the reason I asked the question of how it is attached to the fence housing. If it is done with a magnet then one could separate for flipping the fence, which I also do often enough. Even if the OP did not use magnet, I wonder if it could work from registration point of view.

?

Imran

?

From: [email protected] On Behalf Of Mark Kessler
Sent: Friday, December 04, 2020 8:07 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [FOG] Any pictures out there of aftermarket rip fence DRO installs? #whysoexpensive

?

Wixey is not a “mag” strip dro, it uses an encoder rail which means the dro head and/or reader and rail are “connected” which means if you want to flip the fence out of the way you can’t unless you disconnect it some how. I don’t flip the fence out of the way that often but enough that I wouldn’t want to do any extra work to do it.?

?

Plus the wixy’s are questionable I know alot have had good luck but with the one that i had was iffy, but i was using an accurate technology one for many years with no issues which may have made me more biased to more robust solutions?

Regards, Mark

?

?



On Dec 4, 2020, at 8:00 AM, imranindiana via groups.io <imranindiana@...> wrote:

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mkornell,

?

Thanks for sharing. how is the wixey display attached to the fence housing?

?

imran


On Dec 4, 2020, at 7:23 AM, mkornell@... wrote:

?Newish Felder owner, first time posting...

I bought a K700P this summer and added a Wixey DRO to the rip fence. The Wixey head and mag strip don't fit the extrusion on the front edge of the table, so I made another "extrusion" out of hardwood scrap to fit into the existing extrusion and present a profile that works for the Wixey. The hardwood piece is simply double-side taped in place, no permanent modification.

My "extrusion" pushes the head out a little farther than necessary, could have been about 1/8" thinner and still work well.

As for cost, the Wixey is pretty inexpensive. I figured if this didn't work out, I could use it on something else or sell it without being out much. But so far, it works well, not that I use it all that much.


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The Wixey has a magnet on the side for attaching to the fence head. Easy to move out of the way when tilting the head.


On Fri., Dec. 4, 2020, 06:06 imranindiana via , <imranindiana=[email protected]> wrote:
Mark,

sometimes i ask the question just to have an answer documented here. i am not sure what my plan is. too many more compelling things ahead of adding DRO to the rip fence ?

Imran

On Dec 4, 2020, at 8:44 AM, Mark Kessler <mkessler10@...> wrote:

?I don’t know how the wixy works but the accurate technology reader i had was “keyed” to the encoder rail so you would have to disconnect a cable from he head to do that, doable but for me a hassle - i mean we have these fancy saws is $350 going to brake the bank, of course that is me I am still working and not retired....

Regards, Mark



On Dec 4, 2020, at 8:26 AM, imranindiana via <imranindiana=[email protected]> wrote:

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Mark,

?

That is the reason I asked the question of how it is attached to the fence housing. If it is done with a magnet then one could separate for flipping the fence, which I also do often enough. Even if the OP did not use magnet, I wonder if it could work from registration point of view.

?

Imran

?

From: [email protected] On Behalf Of Mark Kessler
Sent: Friday, December 04, 2020 8:07 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [FOG] Any pictures out there of aftermarket rip fence DRO installs? #whysoexpensive

?

Wixey is not a “mag” strip dro, it uses an encoder rail which means the dro head and/or reader and rail are “connected” which means if you want to flip the fence out of the way you can’t unless you disconnect it some how. I don’t flip the fence out of the way that often but enough that I wouldn’t want to do any extra work to do it.?

?

Plus the wixy’s are questionable I know alot have had good luck but with the one that i had was iffy, but i was using an accurate technology one for many years with no issues which may have made me more biased to more robust solutions?

Regards, Mark

?

?



On Dec 4, 2020, at 8:00 AM, imranindiana via <imranindiana@...> wrote:

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mkornell,

?

Thanks for sharing. how is the wixey display attached to the fence housing?

?

imran


On Dec 4, 2020, at 7:23 AM, mkornell@... wrote:

?Newish Felder owner, first time posting...

I bought a K700P this summer and added a Wixey DRO to the rip fence. The Wixey head and mag strip don't fit the extrusion on the front edge of the table, so I made another "extrusion" out of hardwood scrap to fit into the existing extrusion and present a profile that works for the Wixey. The hardwood piece is simply double-side taped in place, no permanent modification.

My "extrusion" pushes the head out a little farther than necessary, could have been about 1/8" thinner and still work well.

As for cost, the Wixey is pretty inexpensive. I figured if this didn't work out, I could use it on something else or sell it without being out much. But so far, it works well, not that I use it all that much.


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Thanks Mark

On Dec 4, 2020, at 11:16 AM, Mark Kornell <mkornell@...> wrote:

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The Wixey has a magnet on the side for attaching to the fence head. Easy to move out of the way when tilting the head.

On Fri., Dec. 4, 2020, 06:06 imranindiana via , <imranindiana=[email protected]> wrote:
Mark,

sometimes i ask the question just to have an answer documented here. i am not sure what my plan is. too many more compelling things ahead of adding DRO to the rip fence ?

Imran

On Dec 4, 2020, at 8:44 AM, Mark Kessler <mkessler10@...> wrote:

?I don’t know how the wixy works but the accurate technology reader i had was “keyed” to the encoder rail so you would have to disconnect a cable from he head to do that, doable but for me a hassle - i mean we have these fancy saws is $350 going to brake the bank, of course that is me I am still working and not retired....

Regards, Mark



On Dec 4, 2020, at 8:26 AM, imranindiana via <imranindiana=[email protected]> wrote:

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Mark,

?

That is the reason I asked the question of how it is attached to the fence housing. If it is done with a magnet then one could separate for flipping the fence, which I also do often enough. Even if the OP did not use magnet, I wonder if it could work from registration point of view.

?

Imran

?

From: [email protected] On Behalf Of Mark Kessler
Sent: Friday, December 04, 2020 8:07 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [FOG] Any pictures out there of aftermarket rip fence DRO installs? #whysoexpensive

?

Wixey is not a “mag” strip dro, it uses an encoder rail which means the dro head and/or reader and rail are “connected” which means if you want to flip the fence out of the way you can’t unless you disconnect it some how. I don’t flip the fence out of the way that often but enough that I wouldn’t want to do any extra work to do it.?

?

Plus the wixy’s are questionable I know alot have had good luck but with the one that i had was iffy, but i was using an accurate technology one for many years with no issues which may have made me more biased to more robust solutions?

Regards, Mark

?

?



On Dec 4, 2020, at 8:00 AM, imranindiana via <imranindiana@...> wrote:

?

mkornell,

?

Thanks for sharing. how is the wixey display attached to the fence housing?

?

imran


On Dec 4, 2020, at 7:23 AM, mkornell@... wrote:

?Newish Felder owner, first time posting...

I bought a K700P this summer and added a Wixey DRO to the rip fence. The Wixey head and mag strip don't fit the extrusion on the front edge of the table, so I made another "extrusion" out of hardwood scrap to fit into the existing extrusion and present a profile that works for the Wixey. The hardwood piece is simply double-side taped in place, no permanent modification.

My "extrusion" pushes the head out a little farther than necessary, could have been about 1/8" thinner and still work well.

As for cost, the Wixey is pretty inexpensive. I figured if this didn't work out, I could use it on something else or sell it without being out much. But so far, it works well, not that I use it all that much.


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Mark Kessler,

???????????????????? I had the same thoughts on the Wixy.? I had one that I mounted on a Biesemeyer fence. I would say it's not a professional product. It never really worked that well for me. But I'm curious if others have had a better experience.


 

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Did want to mention that the OP did do a nice clean installation though.

Other comment would be that I would want it on top of the fence body, a lot of times i am adjusting the rip from the other side of the slider

Regards, Mark

On Dec 4, 2020, at 1:04 PM, tomruth@... wrote:

?Mark Kessler,

???????????????????? I had the same thoughts on the Wixy.? I had one that I mounted on a Biesemeyer fence. I would say it's not a professional product. It never really worked that well for me. But I'm curious if others have had a better experience.


 

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My experience with Wixey is very good or very bad, depending on the unit.? I've gone to Accurate Tech for most machines now and my only complaint is the batterys go if not used.? That may be different now as I haven't bought any for several years.? Dave


From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of tomruth@... <tomruth@...>
Sent: Friday, December 4, 2020 1:04 PM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [FOG] Any pictures out there of aftermarket rip fence DRO installs? #whysoexpensive
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Mark Kessler,

???????????????????? I had the same thoughts on the Wixy.? I had one that I mounted on a Biesemeyer fence. I would say it's not a professional product. It never really worked that well for me. But I'm curious if others have had a better experience.


 

I use a Wixey on my bandsaw and it works really well.
It's my second one.
Not sure about a table saw, but it's certainly accurate enough for me and the bandsaw.

Bill Bélanger


On Fri, Dec 4, 2020 at 11:04 AM <tomruth@...> wrote:
Mark Kessler,

???????????????????? I had the same thoughts on the Wixy.? I had one that I mounted on a Biesemeyer fence. I would say it's not a professional product. It never really worked that well for me. But I'm curious if others have had a better experience.


 


Not being as creative as Mark in the moment and wanting an "OEM" look, I purchased the read strip and DRO from Brian Lamb and can attest it fits perfectly in the Felder extrusion on my K940s. The attached rectangular read head will fit through the existing hole in the fence casting with minor filing. At the time there was no time to complete the housing so duct tape it was. Ordered a few Felder parts and one of these days I'll make a filler piece to hold the display or 3D print the entire thing.?


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Mike B