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AD941 vs. Baileigh JP-1898-NC


 

Hello,

I am about ready to pull the trigger on a AD941.? Then I see that this Baileigh beast is on sale for less than the quote I got for the AD941.? This unit does not require a switch over and has a power drive mech like an AD951.

Thoughts on Baileigh?

Paul


 

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Chinese imports with the Baileigh name on them. Wouldn’t be my choice at any price.

Brian Lamb
blamb11@...
www.lambtoolworks.com




On Jul 28, 2020, at 8:52 AM, PK <paul.kellymjc@...> wrote:

Hello,

I am about ready to pull the trigger on a AD941.? Then I see that this Baileigh beast is on sale for less than the quote I got for the AD941.? This unit does not require a switch over and has a power drive mech like an AD951.

Thoughts on Baileigh?

Paul


 

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Interesting that they are quoting that Liam T has one, pretty sure he has an ad951. I will let Liam speak for himself...



Regards, Mark

On Jul 28, 2020, at 12:28 PM, PK <paul.kellymjc@...> wrote:

?Hello,

I am about ready to pull the trigger on a AD941.? Then I see that this Baileigh beast is on sale for less than the quote I got for the AD941.? This unit does not require a switch over and has a power drive mech like an AD951.

Thoughts on Baileigh?

Paul


 

I did do some digging to look at his IG and I see his AD951... damn three phase.? Wonder what the diff in cost is from a 941 to a 951.? some stuff may be standard and not optional?

Paul


 

Thanks for that Brian. It does look quite impressive though.
I wonder about the accuracy. My AD941 is spot on for thickness.


Bill Belanger?

On Tue, Jul 28, 2020 at 1:43 PM Brian Lamb <blamb11@...> wrote:
Chinese imports with the Baileigh name on them. Wouldn’t be my choice at any price.

Brian Lamb
blamb11@...





On Jul 28, 2020, at 8:52 AM, PK <paul.kellymjc@...> wrote:

Hello,

I am about ready to pull the trigger on a AD941.? Then I see that this Baileigh beast is on sale for less than the quote I got for the AD941.? This unit does not require a switch over and has a power drive mech like an AD951.

Thoughts on Baileigh?

Paul


 

Ready to pull the trigger, but having 2nd thoughts? I think that it's normal to do that....but along the lines of what Brian said...it's not really an apples to apples comparison here.


 

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I think the cost from ad941 to ad951 os about $3500-4k. You should get a quote for both.?

Regards, Mark


 

The 951 is a lot more machine, too. Larger everything and more time saving options available like digi-drive and variable feed rate control and bigger depth of cut capacity. Geared towards production shops, me thinks.?


 

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I thought Baleigh was Taiwan, at least on their big stuff but that may be wrong.? The design is interesting though.? Looks more like the Hoffmann where the tables don't flip up but the planer bed is very long.? The quality of the execution is what I'd want to know.? What is the grind tolerance of the 98" tables, is there a second outfeed drive roller, chipbreaker, and pressure bar.? At 11K it could be an option if the build is as good as the paint job.? Can the 941 be had for close to 11K ?? Dave


From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Bill Bélanger <Bllblngr@...>
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2020 1:49 PM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [FOG] AD941 vs. Baileigh JP-1898-NC
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Thanks for that Brian. It does look quite impressive though.
I wonder about the accuracy. My AD941 is spot on for thickness.


Bill Belanger?

On Tue, Jul 28, 2020 at 1:43 PM Brian Lamb <blamb11@...> wrote:
Chinese imports with the Baileigh name on them. Wouldn’t be my choice at any price.

Brian Lamb
blamb11@...





On Jul 28, 2020, at 8:52 AM, PK <paul.kellymjc@...> wrote:

Hello,

I am about ready to pull the trigger on a AD941.? Then I see that this Baileigh beast is on sale for less than the quote I got for the AD941.? This unit does not require a switch over and has a power drive mech like an AD951.

Thoughts on Baileigh?

Paul


 

David,

That is why I was curious.? The AD941 with the options I want is about the same price as the Baileigh.? My 951 question is based on current discounts and the fact that I wont need any options on a AD951.

Paul


 

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Paul, I have found that if you get close to maxing out options on one level of machine that jumping to the next level standard build or at least same options +1 isn’t that big of a jump dollar wise...

Regards, Mark

On Jul 28, 2020, at 2:11 PM, PK <paul.kellymjc@...> wrote:

?David,

That is why I was curious.? The AD941 with the options I want is about the same price as the Baileigh.? My 951 question is based on current discounts and the fact that I wont need any options on a AD951.

Paul


 

I don't think it's correct to blanket assume you will get 951 standard options that would otherwise be options on the 941. There are a lot of options on the 951 so I would simply just ask the rep to help guide your decision. They have the pricing structure, which none of us have.?


 

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Sang, I was speaking from experience on AD941 - AD951 about $3500, is true though need to ask to get an accurate quote obviously...

AD41
silent cutter?
Single phase 4hp i think ?(Whatever is the standard.?
Powerdrive
The 3piece guard (which I don’t think they say is standard on the web but they include it)

AD951
Silent cutter
3p 7.5 hp i think (Whatever is the standard)
Powerdrive
Variable speed (which is standard)
3 piece guard

Regards, Mark

On Jul 28, 2020, at 2:27 PM, Sang Luu <sangluu@...> wrote:

?I don't think it's correct to blanket assume you will get 951 standard options that would otherwise be options on the 941. There are a lot of options on the 951 so I would simply just ask the rep to help guide your decision. They have the pricing structure, which none of us have.?


 

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Another plus with the AD951 is the ability, with the optional mounting bracket to add a Power Feeder.?



John
JMK Services


-------- Original message --------
From: Mark Kessler <mkessler10@...>
Date: 2020-07-28 2:35 p.m. (GMT-05:00)
Subject: Re: [FOG] AD941 vs. Baileigh JP-1898-NC

Sang, I was speaking from experience on AD941 - AD951 about $3500, is true though need to ask to get an accurate quote obviously...

AD41
silent cutter?
Single phase 4hp i think ?(Whatever is the standard.?
Powerdrive
The 3piece guard (which I don’t think they say is standard on the web but they include it)

AD951
Silent cutter
3p 7.5 hp i think (Whatever is the standard)
Powerdrive
Variable speed (which is standard)
3 piece guard

Regards, Mark

On Jul 28, 2020, at 2:27 PM, Sang Luu <sangluu@...> wrote:

?I don't think it's correct to blanket assume you will get 951 standard options that would otherwise be options on the 941. There are a lot of options on the 951 so I would simply just ask the rep to help guide your decision. They have the pricing structure, which none of us have.?


 

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I believe i was told that you can mount the same bracket on the ad941, would need to drill the holes. chassis is the same except for the width

Regards, Mark

On Jul 28, 2020, at 2:45 PM, jmkserv@... wrote:

?
Another plus with the AD951 is the ability, with the optional mounting bracket to add a Power Feeder.?



John
JMK Services


-------- Original message --------
From: Mark Kessler <mkessler10@...>
Date: 2020-07-28 2:35 p.m. (GMT-05:00)
Subject: Re: [FOG] AD941 vs. Baileigh JP-1898-NC

Sang, I was speaking from experience on AD941 - AD951 about $3500, is true though need to ask to get an accurate quote obviously...

AD41
silent cutter?
Single phase 4hp i think ?(Whatever is the standard.?
Powerdrive
The 3piece guard (which I don’t think they say is standard on the web but they include it)

AD951
Silent cutter
3p 7.5 hp i think (Whatever is the standard)
Powerdrive
Variable speed (which is standard)
3 piece guard

Regards, Mark

On Jul 28, 2020, at 2:27 PM, Sang Luu <sangluu@...> wrote:

?I don't think it's correct to blanket assume you will get 951 standard options that would otherwise be options on the 941. There are a lot of options on the 951 so I would simply just ask the rep to help guide your decision. They have the pricing structure, which none of us have.?


 

My point is you don't have to drill the holes no panels to alter/replace as its designed for the machine.


On Tue, Jul 28, 2020 at 2:53 PM Mark Kessler <mkessler10@...> wrote:
I believe i was told that you can mount the same bracket on the ad941, would need to drill the holes. chassis is the same except for the width

Regards, Mark

On Jul 28, 2020, at 2:45 PM, jmkserv@... wrote:

?
Another plus with the AD951 is the ability, with the optional mounting bracket to add a Power Feeder.?



John
JMK Services


-------- Original message --------
From: Mark Kessler <mkessler10@...>
Date: 2020-07-28 2:35 p.m. (GMT-05:00)
Subject: Re: [FOG] AD941 vs. Baileigh JP-1898-NC

Sang, I was speaking from experience on AD941 - AD951 about $3500, is true though need to ask to get an accurate quote obviously...

AD41
silent cutter?
Single phase 4hp i think ?(Whatever is the standard.?
Powerdrive
The 3piece guard (which I don’t think they say is standard on the web but they include it)

AD951
Silent cutter
3p 7.5 hp i think (Whatever is the standard)
Powerdrive
Variable speed (which is standard)
3 piece guard

Regards, Mark

On Jul 28, 2020, at 2:27 PM, Sang Luu <sangluu@...> wrote:

?I don't think it's correct to blanket assume you will get 951 standard options that would otherwise be options on the 941. There are a lot of options on the 951 so I would simply just ask the rep to help guide your decision. They have the pricing structure, which none of us have.?



--
John Kee
JMK Services


 

Mark,
? I'm pretty sure you can't mount it on the AD941.? I have one and there are access panels in that location.
Dave Davies

On Tue, Jul 28, 2020 at 1:53 PM Mark Kessler <mkessler10@...> wrote:
I believe i was told that you can mount the same bracket on the ad941, would need to drill the holes. chassis is the same except for the width

Regards, Mark

On Jul 28, 2020, at 2:45 PM, jmkserv@... wrote:

?
Another plus with the AD951 is the ability, with the optional mounting bracket to add a Power Feeder.?



John
JMK Services


-------- Original message --------
From: Mark Kessler <mkessler10@...>
Date: 2020-07-28 2:35 p.m. (GMT-05:00)
Subject: Re: [FOG] AD941 vs. Baileigh JP-1898-NC

Sang, I was speaking from experience on AD941 - AD951 about $3500, is true though need to ask to get an accurate quote obviously...

AD41
silent cutter?
Single phase 4hp i think ?(Whatever is the standard.?
Powerdrive
The 3piece guard (which I don’t think they say is standard on the web but they include it)

AD951
Silent cutter
3p 7.5 hp i think (Whatever is the standard)
Powerdrive
Variable speed (which is standard)
3 piece guard

Regards, Mark

On Jul 28, 2020, at 2:27 PM, Sang Luu <sangluu@...> wrote:

?I don't think it's correct to blanket assume you will get 951 standard options that would otherwise be options on the 941. There are a lot of options on the 951 so I would simply just ask the rep to help guide your decision. They have the pricing structure, which none of us have.?



--
Dave & Marie Davies

318-219-7868


 

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Could be, pretty sure Felder told me there was a way to do it because I asked when I bought mine.

Regards, Mark

On Jul 28, 2020, at 3:06 PM, David Davies <myfinishingtouch@...> wrote:

?
Mark,
? I'm pretty sure you can't mount it on the AD941.? I have one and there are access panels in that location.
Dave Davies

On Tue, Jul 28, 2020 at 1:53 PM Mark Kessler <mkessler10@...> wrote:
I believe i was told that you can mount the same bracket on the ad941, would need to drill the holes. chassis is the same except for the width

Regards, Mark

On Jul 28, 2020, at 2:45 PM, jmkserv@... wrote:

?
Another plus with the AD951 is the ability, with the optional mounting bracket to add a Power Feeder.?



John
JMK Services


-------- Original message --------
From: Mark Kessler <mkessler10@...>
Date: 2020-07-28 2:35 p.m. (GMT-05:00)
Subject: Re: [FOG] AD941 vs. Baileigh JP-1898-NC

Sang, I was speaking from experience on AD941 - AD951 about $3500, is true though need to ask to get an accurate quote obviously...

AD41
silent cutter?
Single phase 4hp i think ?(Whatever is the standard.?
Powerdrive
The 3piece guard (which I don’t think they say is standard on the web but they include it)

AD951
Silent cutter
3p 7.5 hp i think (Whatever is the standard)
Powerdrive
Variable speed (which is standard)
3 piece guard

Regards, Mark

On Jul 28, 2020, at 2:27 PM, Sang Luu <sangluu@...> wrote:

?I don't think it's correct to blanket assume you will get 951 standard options that would otherwise be options on the 941. There are a lot of options on the 951 so I would simply just ask the rep to help guide your decision. They have the pricing structure, which none of us have.?



--
Dave & Marie Davies

318-219-7868


 

Mark,
? I couldn't find the mount on their e-shop.? Do you have a part number?
Thanks,
Dave Davies

On Tue, Jul 28, 2020 at 2:12 PM Mark Kessler <mkessler10@...> wrote:
Could be, pretty sure Felder told me there was a way to do it because I asked when I bought mine.

Regards, Mark

On Jul 28, 2020, at 3:06 PM, David Davies <myfinishingtouch@...> wrote:

?
Mark,
? I'm pretty sure you can't mount it on the AD941.? I have one and there are access panels in that location.
Dave Davies

On Tue, Jul 28, 2020 at 1:53 PM Mark Kessler <mkessler10@...> wrote:
I believe i was told that you can mount the same bracket on the ad941, would need to drill the holes. chassis is the same except for the width

Regards, Mark

On Jul 28, 2020, at 2:45 PM, jmkserv@... wrote:

?
Another plus with the AD951 is the ability, with the optional mounting bracket to add a Power Feeder.?



John
JMK Services


-------- Original message --------
From: Mark Kessler <mkessler10@...>
Date: 2020-07-28 2:35 p.m. (GMT-05:00)
Subject: Re: [FOG] AD941 vs. Baileigh JP-1898-NC

Sang, I was speaking from experience on AD941 - AD951 about $3500, is true though need to ask to get an accurate quote obviously...

AD41
silent cutter?
Single phase 4hp i think ?(Whatever is the standard.?
Powerdrive
The 3piece guard (which I don’t think they say is standard on the web but they include it)

AD951
Silent cutter
3p 7.5 hp i think (Whatever is the standard)
Powerdrive
Variable speed (which is standard)
3 piece guard

Regards, Mark

On Jul 28, 2020, at 2:27 PM, Sang Luu <sangluu@...> wrote:

?I don't think it's correct to blanket assume you will get 951 standard options that would otherwise be options on the 941. There are a lot of options on the 951 so I would simply just ask the rep to help guide your decision. They have the pricing structure, which none of us have.?



--
Dave & Marie Davies

318-219-7868



--
Dave & Marie Davies

318-219-7868


 

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I’ve heard of some folks buying stuff related to metal working and it’s all been re-badged Chinese units, quality is suspect to say the least. I haven’t heard that they don’t support you, but then I haven’t paid that much attention. I try to do my best to not spend money in China...

Brian Lamb
blamb11@...
www.lambtoolworks.com




On Jul 28, 2020, at 10:49 AM, Bill Bélanger <Bllblngr@...> wrote:

Thanks for that Brian. It does look quite impressive though.
I wonder about the accuracy. My AD941 is spot on for thickness.


Bill Belanger?

On Tue, Jul 28, 2020 at 1:43 PM Brian Lamb <blamb11@...> wrote:
Chinese imports with the Baileigh name on them. Wouldn’t be my choice at any price.

Brian Lamb
blamb11@...





On Jul 28, 2020, at 8:52 AM, PK <paul.kellymjc@...> wrote:

Hello,

I am about ready to pull the trigger on a AD941.? Then I see that this Baileigh beast is on sale for less than the quote I got for the AD941.? This unit does not require a switch over and has a power drive mech like an AD951.

Thoughts on Baileigh?

Paul