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3D printer usage for wood shop


 

I have been thinking of getting a 3D printer for many years. I finally took the plunge about a week ago. Where ever I look I now see opportunities for 3D printed objects. There are also plenty of business opportunities, although I won't look into these before I've learned much more. Thought I might inspire some people here who are thinking about getting one. The coolest thing to me is that the things I create can be tailored exactly for my needs.

I have queued a bunch of print jobs with sandpaper holders to the printer. Soon I'll have complete order in my sand paper piles. The measurements for these boxes are made to exactly match my Systainer drawers. 3D printing takes very long time, these boxes prints in about 7 hours each. But the important thing is that they'll print completely unattended. I print at night and prepare the printer for the next job in the morning.


 

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awesome storage, not to mention the cool factor. beats my poor excuse made with scrap. does not hold RO90 paper.

any idea how much these cost in just material?



imran

On Oct 28, 2020, at 4:08 PM, michael@... wrote:

?I have been thinking of getting a 3D printer for many years. I finally took the plunge about a week ago. Where ever I look I now see opportunities for 3D printed objects. There are also plenty of business opportunities, although I won't look into these before I've learned much more. Thought I might inspire some people here who are thinking about getting one. The coolest thing to me is that the things I create can be tailored exactly for my needs.

I have queued a bunch of print jobs with sandpaper holders to the printer. Soon I'll have complete order in my sand paper piles. The measurements for these boxes are made to exactly match my Systainer drawers. 3D printing takes very long time, these boxes prints in about 7 hours each. But the important thing is that they'll print completely unattended. I print at night and prepare the printer for the next job in the morning.

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Material cost for the 125 mm version is about 5 USD each.

I went through some iterations, mostly to learn what I could print. Material cost for those varied from about 3 USD to 8 USD. The cheapest one was also the most complicated because I tried to remove as much material as possible, it took 25 hours to print.


 

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the diamond perforated design is beautiful. material cost is very reasonable. IIRC, last datapoint was $20-$30 for the overhead saw guard rectangular to round dust port adapter. maybe it required a more robust material, for obvious reasons.

imran

On Oct 28, 2020, at 4:40 PM, michael@... wrote:

?Material cost for the 125 mm version is about 5 USD each.

I went through some iterations, mostly to learn what I could print. Material cost for those varied from about 3 USD to 8 USD. The cheapest one was also the most complicated because I tried to remove as much material as possible, it took 25 hours to print.

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Cool concept but I'd never have enough sandpaper in the single grits to keep them filled.? I use an old plastic tool box with dividers for separating my sandpaper.? Pretty compact.
Dave Davies

On Wed, Oct 28, 2020 at 3:56 PM imranindiana via <imranindiana=[email protected]> wrote:
the diamond perforated design is beautiful. material cost is very reasonable. IIRC, last datapoint was $20-$30 for the overhead saw guard rectangular to round dust port adapter. maybe it required a more robust material, for obvious reasons.

imran

On Oct 28, 2020, at 4:40 PM, michael@... wrote:

?Material cost for the 125 mm version is about 5 USD each.

I went through some iterations, mostly to learn what I could print. Material cost for those varied from about 3 USD to 8 USD. The cheapest one was also the most complicated because I tried to remove as much material as possible, it took 25 hours to print.

<Screenshot 2020-10-28 at 21.38.25.png>
<Screenshot 2020-10-28 at 21.38.31.png>



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I think the dust port adapter was printed in nylon. Nylon is about twice the price compared to PLA, which I used. Strength wise I don't think the adapter needed to be printed in nylon.

The diamond pattern was needed in order to both loose weight and to be sturdy. By using 30 degree angles I could minimize the overhang at the top of each diamond. 3D printers print layer by layer, so it's hard to print in mid air. Overhang up to approx 45 degree is ok.

I learned this lesson while trying to print the below model. The round holes makes the overhang completely unsupported and the print didn't go very well.


 

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I have been 3D printing for quite a few years now. I use it to help design prototypes and make a lot of fixtures. I need to hold things for laser engraving and have made a lot of jigs to hold parts at whatever angle and position I need. Just recently actually printed a set of vise jaws to hold an odd shaped part on the mill for a secondary operation on a 3D printed part, worked out well.

As for cost, you can figure roughly $20 a roll for good PLA, that’s a 1kg roll, and your slicing software will tell you how many grams of plastic it will take to print. Electricity to print is something in the range of $1 to $2 a day, depending upon how hot you run your bed and nozzle temps.

Brian Lamb
blamb11@...
www.lambtoolworks.com




On Oct 28, 2020, at 1:08 PM, michael@... wrote:

I have been thinking of getting a 3D printer for many years. I finally took the plunge about a week ago. Where ever I look I now see opportunities for 3D printed objects. There are also plenty of business opportunities, although I won't look into these before I've learned much more. Thought I might inspire some people here who are thinking about getting one. The coolest thing to me is that the things I create can be tailored exactly for my needs.

I have queued a bunch of print jobs with sandpaper holders to the printer. Soon I'll have complete order in my sand paper piles. The measurements for these boxes are made to exactly match my Systainer drawers. 3D printing takes very long time, these boxes prints in about 7 hours each. But the important thing is that they'll print completely unattended. I print at night and prepare the printer for the next job in the morning.

<Screenshot 2020-10-28 at 20.57.01.png>


 

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Imran, I printed this on a Markforged the material is nylon with chopped carbon fiber, i will check cost tomorrow but I don’t think it was $20.



Regards, Mark


 

Mark, is that a 4" hose? Can you print me one?

Bill Bélanger


On Wed, Oct 28, 2020 at 3:01 PM Mark Kessler <mkessler10@...> wrote:
Imran, I printed this on a Markforged the material is nylon with chopped carbon fiber, i will check cost tomorrow but I don’t think it was $20.



Regards, Mark


 

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Mark,

i remember what was posted to be on the expensive side, from my point of view. i could be remembering the item incorrectly though.

imran

On Oct 28, 2020, at 6:01 PM, Mark Kessler <mkessler10@...> wrote:

?Imran, I printed this on a Markforged the material is nylon with chopped carbon fiber, i will check cost tomorrow but I don’t think it was $20.

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Regards, Mark


 



No 3D printer.? About $4 at the local box store, heat gun, fits 4-inch hose.? Ugly, but functional.? The 3D print stuffs look quite nice!??


 

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Scanning a part versus designing?? I have a ton of first gen Bessey K-body clamps. Some had the black plastic support clips on the end and others didn’t drilled holes for clips maybe 30 clamps only to find that Bessey no longer sells them.? I was even able to reach the US importer and a guy when and looked at their old stock of parts to see if they had any.

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Perfect 3D print item.? I’d done some CAD design and I even designed replacement drawer detents for an old Husky tool chest but I am hopelessly slow.


 


Thanks!

Bill Bélanger?


On Wed, Oct 28, 2020 at 20:00 Shinta Wakahisa via <vnh84=[email protected]> wrote:


No 3D printer.? About $4 at the local box store, heat gun, fits 4-inch hose.? Ugly, but functional.? The 3D print stuffs look quite nice!??


 
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Joe, I'm not quite sure of which plastic part you mean, but you might find that the part is already designed by someone at Thingiverse. Here is a search for "bessey":



Edit:
I think this is what you mean:?


 

John Kee posted his solution a?few times before. You can make a fitting to connect to 4" hose directly,? use a heat gun, 4" dust elbow fitting and a wedge template.

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James

On Wed, Oct 28, 2020 at 11:10 PM Bill Bélanger <Bllblngr@...> wrote:

Thanks!

Bill Bélanger?


On Wed, Oct 28, 2020 at 20:00 Shinta Wakahisa via <vnh84=[email protected]> wrote:


No 3D printer.? About $4 at the local box store, heat gun, fits 4-inch hose.? Ugly, but functional.? The 3D print stuffs look quite nice!??


 

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i did this with a $10 heat gun from HF. i did get side tracked and ended up bending it to the rear instead of to the side like John Kee but it works. just created a rectangular form on a 2x6 and went to work.



imran

On Oct 29, 2020, at 9:04 AM, James Zhu <james.zhu2@...> wrote:

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John Kee posted his solution a?few times before. You can make a fitting to connect to 4" hose directly,? use a heat gun, 4" dust elbow fitting and a wedge template.

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James

On Wed, Oct 28, 2020 at 11:10 PM Bill Bélanger <Bllblngr@...> wrote:

Thanks!

Bill Bélanger?


On Wed, Oct 28, 2020 at 20:00 Shinta Wakahisa via <vnh84=[email protected]> wrote:
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No 3D printer.? About $4 at the local box store, heat gun, fits 4-inch hose.? Ugly, but functional.? The 3D print stuffs look quite nice!??

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Awesome, here is a perfect version.

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of michael@...
Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2020 1:23 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [FOG] 3D printer usage for wood shop

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Joe, I'm not quite sure of which plastic part you mean, but you might find that the part is already designed by someone at Thingiverse. Here is a search for "bessey":


 

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Imran, your memory is better than mine. Cost was $35.61 at 55% infill and the print time was 19hr 53m in oynx which is a Markforged proprietary material (nylon with carbon fiber). The same print in reg nylon is $24.35 and the print time is 37hr

Regards, Mark



On Oct 28, 2020, at 8:45 PM, imranindiana via groups.io <imranindiana@...> wrote:

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Mark,

i remember what was posted to be on the expensive side, from my point of view. i could be remembering the item incorrectly though.

imran

On Oct 28, 2020, at 6:01 PM, Mark Kessler <mkessler10@...> wrote:

?Imran, I printed this on a Markforged the material is nylon with chopped carbon fiber, i will check cost tomorrow but I don’t think it was $20.

<image.jpg>


Regards, Mark


 

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Hi Bill, it is 4” unfortunately I cannot as it was done at work, I couldn’t even get you the CAD file as my CAD tube is monitored for downloads

Regards, Mark



On Oct 28, 2020, at 6:22 PM, Bill Bélanger <Bllblngr@...> wrote:

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Mark, is that a 4" hose? Can you print me one?

Bill Bélanger

On Wed, Oct 28, 2020 at 3:01 PM Mark Kessler <mkessler10@...> wrote:
Imran, I printed this on a Markforged the material is nylon with chopped carbon fiber, i will check cost tomorrow but I don’t think it was $20.

<image.jpg>


Regards, Mark


 

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even a blind squirrel finds a nut once in a while ?

On Oct 30, 2020, at 3:20 PM, Mark Kessler <mkessler10@...> wrote:

?Imran, your memory is better than mine. Cost was $35.61 at 55% infill and the print time was 19hr 53m in oynx which is a Markforged proprietary material (nylon with carbon fiber). The same print in reg nylon is $24.35 and the print time is 37hr

Regards, Mark



On Oct 28, 2020, at 8:45 PM, imranindiana via groups.io <imranindiana@...> wrote:

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Mark,

i remember what was posted to be on the expensive side, from my point of view. i could be remembering the item incorrectly though.

imran

On Oct 28, 2020, at 6:01 PM, Mark Kessler <mkessler10@...> wrote:

?Imran, I printed this on a Markforged the material is nylon with chopped carbon fiber, i will check cost tomorrow but I don’t think it was $20.

<image.jpg>


Regards, Mark