3d models for shop layout
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Been building my man cave for a while now. Like to think i'm in the home stretch of building anyways. Still have plumbing and flooring to pour. Yes, pex will be laid out for hydronic heating. Once in a lifetime deal. But in the meantime time work out some shop ideas. for current shop and when I move over to the new shop. Everyone here has said build bigger than you think you need cause you'll wish you would've built bigger. So true. I did build bigger than I thought I would ever need. Now thinking go should have made it bigger. Cause 3200 sq.ft. isn't enough. weird right. but space gets consumed quickly. RV, 20k 2 post lift, motorcycle lift, classic car parking and motorcycle parking. there goes almost 2000 sq.ft. Haven't even laid out the shop space yet. But moving on.
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Been looking for some 3d models to models for sketch-up or fusion 360. Sketch-up has a couple like the kf700 saw but not the kf700sp but the kf700 will work for my needs. the have a AD741 may it was AD9?? (what ever is the 410mm). but can't seem to find any other machines. like bandsaws and dust collectors.
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Does anyone know where to find any of the Felder 3d models. Don't need work ones just need them for foot print and shop layout. Seems 3d model your shop will be easier and faster to get a decent idea of how things will fit and functions.
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Looks for band saw FB600/610. KF700sp (10'ft slider), AD741.?
Other models like stand alone jointers and planers, shapers, edge sanders and dust collection would also be nice. |
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýFelder can provide you with dimensioned drawings of all their machines in PDF format. ?They will not release the 3D models, ?but I can confirm that they were created in Siemens NX which wouldn¡¯t help you even if they were made public.?I have made a simplified Fusion 360 model of a K940 which is nearly identical to a KF700 in terms of dimensions. ?You can download the F3Z file at the following link, and if you turn on the canvas in the browser, you will see that I used the Felder PDF document to derive the model. ? Attached are two 2D drawings that might help you with space planning. ?These are based on the Kappa 400 xMotion, but this is functionally the same size as a KF700 similarly equipped in terms of shop space requirements. David Best DBestWorkshop@... https://www.flickr.com/photos/davidpbest/collections/ https://www.youtube.com/@David_Best
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David:
I have been on the same journey and looked everywhere for models. Finally, I got the dimensional drawings of most of the equipment I have, along with the equipment I will order. Then I drew the footprint of my shop building in Fusion (you can do in Sketchup too) and drew the outlines of each of the machines; pallet racks, etc. and extruded them to roughly their heights. While they are not true representations of the machines, etc., they are proportionally accurate representations in terms of size. I created each extruded cube as a separate body and labeled each one so I can move them around and determine accurate clearances, workflows, etc.? Not as pretty has having accurate models of my actual equipment, but I was more concerned in how to organize it efficiently to optimize placement in my shop.
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Here is a link to my shop model in Fusion:
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Attached is a screenshot w/the floorplan, machines in position, and the "naming tree" identifying the equipment.?
I hope this is helpful.
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Kerry
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Kerry Smith
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I couldn't spend too much time on properly appealing modelling and geometries in Fusion, so I used some generic simple extrusion geometries? to the nearest couple inches tolerance, but made sure my working "bench" heights were proper so I could share machine tables where they needed to be coplanar, or make sure one surface was high enough to clear obstacles. For example, the?frame clamping press isn't fully defined except with a taper extrusion?for the angle as it sits. The slider saw has a big block where the carriage and cross fence need clearance. Anyways, I made each machine its own file for future sophistications as needed, then inserted them into the main shop file. If I want to add machines later or trade out, it's not cumbersome and keeps the main file from getting too complex. This iteration is from 2021. A neat feature of modeling this way is the ability to make 2x4 sticks and 4x8 sheets and move them about to test fit. At this point my shop has reconfigured nearly every year, it's always a work in progress. On Fri, Oct 18, 2024 at 1:29?PM Kerryj_smith via <kerry=[email protected]> wrote:
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Brett Wissel Saint Louis Restoration 1831 S Kingshighway Blvd (at Shaw Blvd) St Louis, MO 63110 314.772.2167 brett@... |
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Kerry, Brett
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These ideas will work for lay out ideas. While a proper 3d model would make it over the top for space and work flow guess it is not really needed.
Maybe someday Felder will release models for this purpose. We don't need the super detailed info that they have. Just the basic dimension and slide movement for sliders. |
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