Includes:

BN-35	Barth Multipress RP3001 3000mm c/w 3 Manual / Hydraulic Clamps and 90? Stop
BM-35-10	Barth Hold Down Clamp
BM-35-20	Barth Lateral Press with 2 manual R&P
BM-35-42	Barth Casework support Top 3x
BM-35-41	Barth Casework support Bottom 3x
BM-35-55	Barth Mobility Kit
BM-35-57	Mitering Frame Bond Device

How much floor space does the rack consume?

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-Michael Wolf

Tahoe City, CA

Hi Michael

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The press is ~10' wide and 3.5' deep (4' when using the case support arms) and ~90" tall.? ?The mobility casters make it super easy to roll around.

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Anil

You know you're going to kick yourself later if? you sell it.? Check with Joel Gelman.? He used the space on the back side of the multipress.? I can't remember?exactly now what he did but I remembered being impressed at the time?with?his ingenuity.

Ah okay, thanks Lucky, I had not realized that. ?Usually I only move it when I reconfigure my shop, though I’ve done it a few times this year :-)

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Anil

You're probably right, David :-). Interestingly, a few years ago I was stupid enough to sell the 500V when I was moving homes and ended up buying the next version of it recently - much more expensive and not as heavy weight in construction.? So I'm in two minds about this listing..

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Anil,

Anil,?

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I'm in portland and i'm interested in talking to you about it.

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Please give me a call when you get a moment.

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Scott,

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360.606.1106

I saw the mention by my friend Dave. ?I would not say you will kick yourself later if you sell it ..... assuming you do not or will not use it and think you are better off using the space in a better way. ?I think if you really do not use something, you should sell it (ideal), donate, give away, or throw. away. ?Space has value! ?Even if you find a clever way to position the unit and store things behind it, that does not matter if you do not find value in keeping it.

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Now, as for use, it is mentioned that it was once used for large cabinet and case work, but not really being used that way at this time. ?It is certainly setup for gluing large boxes as pictured. ?The usefulness depends on how it is used. ?If I were to only use it for a rare large box, I would not want to have one either.

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However, I use mine often as my main use is for gluing boards together where I do not need depth. ?It could be for drawer parts when one board is not wide enough (often the case), or a panel door, or a face frame, or a table top. ?Super easy and fast! ?The attachments for large boxes are stored behind the multiples most of the time.

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I attached a couple of pictures of how I use the space in the back of the multipress, and along the back wall behind the muitipress. ?By not having it backed up against a wall or garage door, true, I lose some space in front of the press. ?However, I gain a LOT of storage both in the back of the unit and behind the unit while just allowing enough room to walk behind the multipress.

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My unit has the perforating plate. ?I do not use that with the clamps. ?If I had a much longer multipress, I would or if I had different applications I would. ? If anyone wants up to 4 of these unused clamps at a price way below new, please let me know (see attached). ?As an FYI, they can be adapted to use on the Barth vacuum table and I believe they can be used with the 20mm perforated Festool top with these

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I have these clamps for my Barth Bench. ?They are great. ?I just do not use more than a couple at a time on the bench and do not need the extras.

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missed a picture. ? note how the magswitches are used. ?In my case, I make something that attached to the back of the perforated plate, but you can make something that attaches that way to the frame. ?I find that this is a great way to store things on machine sides in general.

Thanks Joel, this is a very ingenious use of the space indeed!?

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Anil

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As for the 500V, I have the older version and a good friend has the newer version. ?I think having some experience working with my Barth 500V motivated him to get one. ?He likes his better. ?This is because the foot operated lift works way easier on his (located in the middle where mine is located on one end). ?I do think the older one may be sturdier-heavier, which I guess is a negative if you move it around and a positive if you want stationary. ?I do not think they are all that different.

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I personally think that if you really want to do certain things on a rock solid bench, that is what a very well built traditional workbench is for. ?I never thought about selling my Barth bench. ?I did once think I would sell my traditional workbench. ?I changed my mind, and spent some time refinishing the top and adding a few clamping accessories and looking back, if I sold it, ?I surely would have regretted selling it, big time, especially as I am now devoting more time to using hand tools. ?

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Joel,

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You’re a much wiser and smarter man than I am :-). I sold the 500V and then regretted it and recently bought its replacement Vakuusyst-S. ?Just to be clear, it’s also quite amazing and I’m really glad I got it (if super expensive). ?And I agree that it might just be a matter of perspective and what you use it for. ?I actually really like the mobile aspect as it gives me more options in the workshop. ?The older one had a much heavier scissor mechanism and a heavier duty hydraulic pump. ?I also prefer the older style foot pedal on the end vs the newer version on the sides - I find it very awkward when pumping it to lift the table, I keep hitting against the frame. ?I’m also missing the nice feature they had in the old model where you can push down on a lever (?) to lift the table off the wheels to “ground” it to the floor, making it even more rock solid (I think David Best posted an image of it once, I don’t have it any more).

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I also have a traditional style workbench (if you can call a split top Ruobo, traditional), so I certainly get the value of having a dedicated workbench. ?However, the height adjustability of the Barth ability can be amazing - since different heights are better suited for different operations like hand planing, chopping dovetails, paring, cross cutting vs ripping, chopping mortises etc. ?Barth can shine there esp once you make it very stable. ?I’m finding that I have less tolerance for bending down for some of these operations these days :-)

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BTW, I sent you a PM visa the groups message mechanism, but I would be interested in your clamps from the press as I think I can use it on my table - I got the version with perforated HPL top with 22mm holes and as such am limited in clamping options.

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regards

Anil

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