Unless I want butt jointed and nailed drawers for my house that's under construction, which is all that the local custom cabinet guys offer, I need to go with someone like Legacy or Merrilat to make the cabinets.? The boxes are pretty standard but I'm wondering if I can bet the local cabinet guys to outsource drawers.? If so what is the go-to drawer supplier you use?
IMHO Western Dovetail makes great quality Drawer Boxes.? I met them at AWFS and tried them a few times.? Now I have a dovetailer, so I am going to try to match their quality...? We will see.
?they are local for me, but they ship as well. I have used them a lot and never have had any issues... well actually one. They drill and notch (and supply at a good price) for the blum undermount drawer slide and one batch of boxes I got from them the 1/4" drill that the "hook" goes into wasn't drilled deep enough. Fortunately an easy fix, but it had me scratching my head for a few minutes when the drawers wouldn't engage in the slides.
I've always done the baltic birch sides, but they will do solid wood as well and whatever thickness bottom you want.
Brian Lamb
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On Friday, February 7, 2025 at 09:09:27 AM MST, Kerryj_smith <kerry@...> wrote:
I use Portadoor in Connecticut. They ship.
www.portadoor.com
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On Fri, 7 Feb 2025 at 17:47, Brian Lamb via <blamb11=[email protected]> wrote:
?they are local for me, but they ship as well. I have used them a lot and never have had any issues... well actually one. They drill and notch (and supply at a good price) for the blum undermount drawer slide and one batch of boxes I got from them the 1/4" drill that the "hook" goes into wasn't drilled deep enough. Fortunately an easy fix, but it had me scratching my head for a few minutes when the drawers wouldn't engage in the slides.
I've always done the baltic birch sides, but they will do solid wood as well and whatever thickness bottom you want.
On Friday, February 7, 2025 at 09:09:27 AM MST, Kerryj_smith <kerry@...> wrote:
I use Portadoor in Connecticut. They ship.
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Dovetailed?drawer boxes are very easy to make, don't us woodworkers do that type of thing?
On Fri, 7 Feb 2025 at 17:47, Brian Lamb via <blamb11=[email protected]> wrote:
?they are local for me, but they ship as well. I have used them a lot and never have had any issues... well actually one. They drill and notch (and supply at a good price) for the blum undermount drawer slide and one batch of boxes I got from them the 1/4" drill that the "hook" goes into wasn't drilled deep enough. Fortunately an easy fix, but it had me scratching my head for a few minutes when the drawers wouldn't engage in the slides.
I've always done the baltic birch sides, but they will do solid wood as well and whatever thickness bottom you want.
On Friday, February 7, 2025 at 09:09:27 AM MST, Kerryj_smith <kerry@...> wrote:
I use Portadoor in Connecticut. They ship.
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I looked into ordering a bunch of drawers and trays for a good sized kitchen about two years ago.? I priced them with a coupe of places (cant remember who that was at the time). ??
I ended up getting an Omega 650 manual dovetailer and doing them myself. ? I had calculated with that one kitchen i more than paid for the tool - not always the smartest way but i did not mind spending the time on making them - also not sure i had the best pricing that can be had either.
In any event that makes the process of cutting dovetails really fast and repeatable - even for someone of my skills!
On Fri, Feb 7, 2025 at 1:24?PM James Zhu via <james.zhu2=[email protected]> wrote:
Yeah. Why not make it by yourself?
Buy a PantoRouter or Leigh D4R Pro, I am sure you can make all the drawer boxes for your cabinet in a few days.
James
On Fri, Feb 7, 2025 at 1:18?PM jontathan samways via <jonathansamways=[email protected]> wrote:
Dovetailed?drawer boxes are very easy to make, don't us woodworkers do that type of thing?
On Fri, 7 Feb 2025 at 17:47, Brian Lamb via <blamb11=[email protected]> wrote:
?they are local for me, but they ship as well. I have used them a lot and never have had any issues... well actually one. They drill and notch (and supply at a good price) for the blum undermount drawer slide and one batch of boxes I got from them the 1/4" drill that the "hook" goes into wasn't drilled deep enough. Fortunately an easy fix, but it had me scratching my head for a few minutes when the drawers wouldn't engage in the slides.
I've always done the baltic birch sides, but they will do solid wood as well and whatever thickness bottom you want.
On Friday, February 7, 2025 at 09:09:27 AM MST, Kerryj_smith <kerry@...> wrote:
I use Portadoor in Connecticut. They ship.
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On Fri, Feb 7, 2025, 1:35 PM Michael Marsico via <michael.marsico1=[email protected]> wrote:
I looked into ordering a bunch of drawers and trays for a good sized kitchen about two years ago.? I priced them with a coupe of places (cant remember who that was at the time). ??
I ended up getting an Omega 650 manual dovetailer and doing them myself. ? I had calculated with that one kitchen i more than paid for the tool - not always the smartest way but i did not mind spending the time on making them - also not sure i had the best pricing that can be had either.
In any event that makes the process of cutting dovetails really fast and repeatable - even for someone of my skills!
Thank you?
Michael
On Fri, Feb 7, 2025 at 1:24?PM James Zhu via <james.zhu2=[email protected]> wrote:
Yeah. Why not make it by yourself?
Buy a PantoRouter or Leigh D4R Pro, I am sure you can make all the drawer boxes for your cabinet in a few days.
James
On Fri, Feb 7, 2025 at 1:18?PM jontathan samways via <jonathansamways=[email protected]> wrote:
Dovetailed?drawer boxes are very easy to make, don't us woodworkers do that type of thing?
On Fri, 7 Feb 2025 at 17:47, Brian Lamb via <blamb11=[email protected]> wrote:
?they are local for me, but they ship as well. I have used them a lot and never have had any issues... well actually one. They drill and notch (and supply at a good price) for the blum undermount drawer slide and one batch of boxes I got from them the 1/4" drill that the "hook" goes into wasn't drilled deep enough. Fortunately an easy fix, but it had me scratching my head for a few minutes when the drawers wouldn't engage in the slides.
I've always done the baltic birch sides, but they will do solid wood as well and whatever thickness bottom you want.
On Friday, February 7, 2025 at 09:09:27 AM MST, Kerryj_smith <kerry@...> wrote:
I use Portadoor in Connecticut. They ship.
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Jonathan Samways
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When I took my first woodworking classes, our instructor recommended DBS (Drawer Box Specialties) in Orange, CA.? He told us they could make drawers cheaper and more quickly than he (or we) could.? He was running a successful high end custom kitchen/bath company.? I know they shipped locally--no idea about nationwide.
I learned woodworking as a post-retirement hobby and do mostly reproduction 18th century museum pieces.? I have a Leigh D4R still in its box.? My dovetails are hand cut except for the DBS ones that are part of a vanity I built as part of that cabinet class and brought with me when I moved east.? I can vouch for the quality of those pre-built drawers if one is using some sort of drawer hardware.? ? Jeff
For a special nightstand or desk, sure. But when I do a house remodel, it might be 30 to 50 drawers for kitchen cabinets, linen cabints, bathrooms and the like. They don't warrant the time spent to make drawer boxes, at least not as slow as I am at it.
Brian Lamb
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On Friday, February 7, 2025 at 12:39:48 PM MST, bacchus6015 via groups.io <joeinno@...> wrote:
Mac,
How is Mark doing?
I visited him in Pontiac once and he explained how he used his FD250. ?
He also gave me a tour of his shop and shared lots of great information with me.
Joe
Joe Doherty
On Feb 7, 2025, at 11:04?AM, mac campshure via groups.io <mac512002@...> wrote:
Mark is an old customer of mine and has an amazing manufacturing co in Michigan.
I outsourced the drawers for my kitchen because I had about 30 and wanted to get it done. I used DBS Drawer Box Specialties. It was not much more than the cost of the materials alone.
Yes, woodworkers make dovetailed drawers...but unless they are something special my time is best spent elsewhere. My local shop Fleetwoods in Minnesota, makes really nice boxes in almost any species I want. They will finish them for me, and drop them at my door in about 10 days for about what it cost me to buy the wood. Why would I spend my time and extra money on that? If I need to make a curved fronts, or a drawer with a different species front than the sides for a nice piece of furniture I do those. But if they are just cabinet drawers for a built in or a kitchen I prefer to get them made and build the rest while the drawers are being done. Makes for much less inefficiency in my one man shop.
Jason
Jason Holtz J. Holtz Furniture 3307 Snelling Ave. South Minneapolis, MN 55406 612.432.2765
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Unless I want butt jointed and nailed drawers for my house that's under construction, which is all that the local custom cabinet guys offer, I need to go with someone like Legacy or Merrilat to make the cabinets.? The boxes are pretty standard but I'm wondering if I can bet the local cabinet guys to outsource drawers.? If so what is the go-to drawer supplier you use?
Unless I want butt jointed and nailed drawers for my house that's under construction, which is all that the local custom cabinet guys offer, I need to go with someone like Legacy or Merrilat to make the cabinets.? The boxes are pretty standard but I'm wondering if I can bet the local cabinet guys to outsource drawers.? If so what is the go-to drawer supplier you use?
Unless I want butt jointed and nailed drawers for my house that's under construction, which is all that the local custom cabinet guys offer, I need to go with someone like Legacy or Merrilat to make the cabinets.? The boxes are pretty standard but I'm wondering if I can bet the local cabinet guys to outsource drawers.? If so what is the go-to drawer supplier you use?
My kitchen, renovated 5 years ago, has Legrabox. At the time it was the flagship product from Blum. I love the slides and drawers and am delighted with them. I did not make the kitchen.?
The Legrabox slides are integrated into the drawer sides which can be a variety of materials, and the sides have a very thin and straight profile. The fabricator only makes a back, front and bottom.?
Unless I want butt jointed and nailed drawers for my house that's under construction, which is all that the local custom cabinet guys offer, I need to go with someone like Legacy or Merrilat to make the cabinets.? The boxes are pretty standard but I'm
wondering if I can bet the local cabinet guys to outsource drawers.? If so what is the go-to drawer supplier you use?