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K 700 S Miter Slot dimensions Pls


sjglaser1
 

Hi FOG,

I apologize in advance if my question(s) are too basic. I am a new owner with a K700S on order.

What is the dimensions of the sliding table miter slots?

Which miter bar should I order to make up jigs, etc....

Thanks in advance- Scott G.;


 

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Welcome to the group,

The Felder sliding tables, do not have a ¡°miter slot¡± in the traditional sense. The slots on the sliding table are in the form of an upside down T. ?You will find the dimensions for this T-slot on the left side of the drawing at the following link, but keep in mind this is not a precision, reference slot. There are slight variations in the dimensions of the T-slot along the length of the sliding table, and from one machine to another.


If you want to adapt, a third-party miter guide to the sliding table, you will need to make a T-slot adapter that accepts a standard 3/8 by 3/4 inch miter guide bar and conforms it to the Felder T-slot. ?Many users here have made such an adapter out of hardwood or HDPE plastic. The following link will show you an example of one such adaptation:


For simple 90¡ã crosscuts, a Fritz and Franz jig would be a better choice. ?If you were planning to do a lot of crosscut mitering work, you might find it more convenient to use the crosscut fence on the outrigger table or purchase the DGL or EGL accessory for the sliding table. ?Felder makes and sells a short crosscut fence that can be installed on the sliding table, but it is not very accurate in establishing true 90¡ã registration when taking off and putting back on the sliding table. As a result I do not recommend this device on the saw - it has more utility on a spindle shaper with a sliding table.

David Best
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David Best - via mobile phone?

On Dec 26, 2023, at 12:20?PM, sjglaser1 <sjglaser1@...> wrote:

?Hi FOG,

I apologize in advance if my question(s) are too basic. I am a new owner with a K700S on order.

What is the dimensions of the sliding table miter slots?

Which miter bar should I order to make up jigs, etc....

Thanks in advance- Scott G.;


sjglaser1
 

Amazing Mr. Best. I should call you Dr. Best to recognize your expertise.

Yes, you anticipated my next effort which was to build a basic? Fritz/Fran jig.

Silly me I thought planing and using a jointer to mill down some bakelite for a good fit in the miter slots would be sufficient to fab miter guides for the bottom of my jig.
I have seen this done in youtube?videos for sliding tables.
Sounds like this may or may not be accurate enough, given the Felder miter slots in the sliding table are not true ??

I could 3d print a custom t-nut/bar out of a harder plastic.
PETG has some wear resistance, Nylon is very wear resistent, whereas Carbon Fiber may actually wear the slots somewhat in the aluminum table.
Do you think this may worth a try...... I may anyway for the fun value....

Thank you my friend.
Scott Glaser
6627 Dolan Falls
Flower Mound, TX 76226
945-444-8066


On Tue, Dec 26, 2023 at 3:08?PM David P. Best <dbestworkshop@...> wrote:
Welcome to the group,

The Felder sliding tables, do not have a ¡°miter slot¡± in the traditional sense. The slots on the sliding table are in the form of an upside down T.? You will find the dimensions for this T-slot on the left side of the drawing at the following link, but keep in mind this is not a precision, reference slot. There are slight variations in the dimensions of the T-slot along the length of the sliding table, and from one machine to another.


If you want to adapt, a third-party miter guide to the sliding table, you will need to make a T-slot adapter that accepts a standard 3/8 by 3/4 inch miter guide bar and conforms it to the Felder T-slot.? Many users here have made such an adapter out of hardwood or HDPE plastic. The following link will show you an example of one such adaptation:


For simple 90¡ã crosscuts, a Fritz and Franz jig would be a better choice.? If you were planning to do a lot of crosscut mitering work, you might find it more convenient to use the crosscut fence on the outrigger table or purchase the DGL or EGL accessory for the sliding table.? Felder makes and sells a short crosscut fence that can be installed on the sliding table, but it is not very accurate in establishing true 90¡ã registration when taking off and putting back on the sliding table. As a result I do not recommend this device on the saw - it has more utility on a spindle shaper with a sliding table.





David Best - via mobile phone?
On Dec 26, 2023, at 12:20?PM, sjglaser1 <sjglaser1@...> wrote:

?Hi FOG,

I apologize in advance if my question(s) are too basic. I am a new owner with a K700S on order.

What is the dimensions of the sliding table miter slots?

Which miter bar should I order to make up jigs, etc....

Thanks in advance- Scott G.;


 

You¡¯re going to very easily be able to mill a piece of hardwood to fit the slot in your sliding table. It has to be just snug enough to slide but not wobble.

I normally make mine of quarter sawn material.

You¡¯re going to love having a Fritz and Franz jig.

Regards, Rod


sjglaser1
 

Rod,

Thank you for your input.

I was thinking of using UHMW or a?slick material for the?miter bars or do you think that?is overkill?? I live in Texas and the?humidity?changes can?cause swelling....

I get pretty anal about all things "Tech". My wife feels I was born in the "Tribe of Engineers". Well, I am an engineer of 40 yrs, but have learned that :
- You never know enough, keep learning something new everyday (even if it is a little thing), at the end of each year you will amaze even yourself.
- Find a "passion", hobby, avocation and run with it.
- People are your Most Important resource. Just about all the people I interface with become friends and I will do just about anything for them.
Anyway.....

I will try Maple


Scott Glaser
6627 Dolan Falls
Flower Mound, TX 76226
945-444-8066


On Tue, Dec 26, 2023 at 6:35?PM rodsheridan <riderofgallifrey@...> wrote:
You¡¯re going to very easily be able to mill a piece of hardwood to fit the slot in your sliding table. It has to be just snug enough to slide but not wobble.

I normally make mine of quarter sawn material.

You¡¯re going to love having a Fritz and Franz jig.

Regards, Rod