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Re: Need 12" digital caliper
I have the??unit which I love, but I wanted something less precious for everyday “burner” type use. ?So I just recently bought this one from Amazon, which is fine. ?One of the things I like about it is that the battery cover is held in place by a tiny screw, so it’s less likely to fly off into the bowls of the shop never to be found again.
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On Apr 6, 2025, at 2:47?PM, imran via groups.io <imranwoodshop@...> wrote:
?I am very happy with shars. I wanted one with 2032 battery and large digits. I know there is another Shars model and I was struggling between them but I like what I ended up getting. Smooth movement and reasonable price. Did not know they come with 4 decimal points.
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On Apr 6, 2025, at 5:16?PM, Aaron Inami via groups.io <ainami@...> wrote:
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Hey guys.? I'm in need of a 12" digital caliper.?? I have a Mitutoyo 6" that is excellent, but their 12" calipers are upwards of $470 or so.?? There are many cheaper variants (Fowler, Inzise, Accusize, etc.).?? Can anyone recommend a decent one??? Some of these cheaper calipers have flimsier bodies and thinner calipers.? The flexible bodies can cause a variance in measurement.?? I would love a stainless steel variant, but let me know what you think.
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Re: KF 700 - shutting off as blade touches wood
There is not enough information here for us to really be helpful. ?Please reply with answers to Brian’s questions. ?Without hearing more, I’d be very suspicious that the issue is related to the stop circuit connected through the sliding table to the switches at “the end of the wagon.” ? That circuit runs through the bearings, and if that circuit is broken (for just a millisecond) because of poor contact induced by the vibration of the saw starting to cut, that would produce the behavior you observe. ?Try cleaning the bearing ways of the lower and upper sliding table extrusions. ?Douse it with a solvent like WD-40, run the slider back and forth several times, then clean the ways several times to remove the solvent. ?Of course there are a bunch of other possibilities, but I’d start with that.
David Best
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On Apr 6, 2025, at 1:50?PM, Kyle Stiefel via groups.io <kstiefel@...> wrote:
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So went through everything getting dust out of all the nooks and crannies as the day went on.?
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Initially it let me then restart the saw from the wagon or frame without recycling the on/off but would still cut out when I tried to cut about 3/4."? I did not try thinner stuff.
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I then kept messing around and cleaning as the no longer switching the main switch on/off was a change with the policing of dust around the unit.?
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Finally got it to rip 2 sticks of 8/4 maple which is how I had started the day but then ran out of time for the day as the family calls.?
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Fingers crossed next weekend I can actually meet my goals from this weekend.
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Who knows but the sawdust was likely causing an electronic gremlin somehow.??
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Re: Need 12" digital caliper
?I am very happy with shars. I wanted one with 2032 battery and large digits. I know there is another Shars model and I was struggling between them but I like what I ended up getting. Smooth movement and reasonable price. Did not know they come with 4 decimal points.
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On Apr 6, 2025, at 5:16?PM, Aaron Inami via groups.io <ainami@...> wrote:
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Hey guys.? I'm in need of a 12" digital caliper.?? I have a Mitutoyo 6" that is excellent, but their 12" calipers are upwards of $470 or so.?? There are many cheaper variants (Fowler, Inzise, Accusize, etc.).?? Can anyone recommend a decent one??? Some of these cheaper calipers have flimsier bodies and thinner calipers.? The flexible bodies can cause a variance in measurement.?? I would love a stainless steel variant, but let me know what you think.
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-Aaron Inami
Re: Need 12" digital caliper
I am very happy with shars. I wanted one with 2032 battery and large digits. I know there is another Shars model and I was struggling between them but I like what I ended up getting. Smooth movement and reasonable price. Did not know they come with 4 decimal points.
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On Apr 6, 2025, at 5:16?PM, Aaron Inami via groups.io <ainami@...> wrote:
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Hey guys.? I'm in need of a 12" digital caliper.?? I have a Mitutoyo 6" that is excellent, but their 12" calipers are upwards of $470 or so.?? There are many cheaper variants (Fowler, Inzise, Accusize, etc.).?? Can anyone recommend a decent one??? Some of these cheaper calipers have flimsier bodies and thinner calipers.? The flexible bodies can cause a variance in measurement.?? I would love a stainless steel variant, but let me know what you think.
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-Aaron Inami
Re: Raising an FB710 off its crate
Hi Doug, Where are you these days?
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On Apr 6, 2025, at 11:09?AM, Doug Speck via groups.io <speckde@...> wrote:
Shinta,
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I had a similar situation in my last shop/garage.? It was a finished garage, but it had an attic access that allowed for adding additional lifting height to the chain hoist.? I used a chain hoist because it allows for almost infinite control of your lift speed.? I constructed a 2x "beam" to spread the load of the band saw onto multiple joists and added another foot to the chain hoist attachment point (see picture).? I lifted the saw using the crate, not the eye bolt that the manual specified as the eye bolt requires a much higher lift height.? Once the saw is erected to a height that the center of gravity shifts to the opposite side of the lift chain, it will stand up on its own weight.? In fact, you will need to support the machine's base to control the rate of descend.? Be very careful at this junction.
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Thanks for the pictures and description of your solution. ?I had not thought to use the crate to lift from but that does seem like it would improve the geometry. ?It appears that the attach point of the hoist to the crate was to the left of the hoist when you began lifting, and the hoist chain rotated counterclockwise through vertical and then to the right as the saw rotated upright. ?Is that right? What point on the saw was directly below the hoist when you started lifting?
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Is that a single length of black pipe supporting the chain hoist? ?How long is the section of pipe between those 2x8's? ?I was advised by our builder not to hang the hoist from our joists as I'd have to drill through the web of the joist and support the pipe there and he wasn't sure it was rated for a load applied like that. ?I'm thinking to build a couple posts, each composed of 2 or 3 2x6's, which I can fit up between the joists to get maximum height, and run the pipe between them. ?However, if the saw & crate have to swing between them, they'd have to be far enough apart that black pipe seems potentially inadequate, plus the posts have to be held solidly upright as the direction of the load moves, so the design gets more complicated...
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Doug
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Re: Need 12" digital caliper
I am in the same boat. Well, maybe I “want” a 12”, or “could sure use” a 12” caliper rather than actually need one. I am looking forward to responses.
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Hey guys.? I'm in need of a 12" digital caliper.?? I have a Mitutoyo 6" that is excellent, but their 12" calipers are upwards of $470 or so.?? There are many cheaper variants (Fowler, Inzise, Accusize, etc.).?? Can anyone recommend a decent one??? Some of these cheaper calipers have flimsier bodies and thinner calipers.? The flexible bodies can cause a variance in measurement.?? I would love a stainless steel variant, but let me know what you think.
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-Aaron Inami
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Re: KF 700 - shutting off as blade touches wood
Update:
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So went through everything getting dust out of all the nooks and crannies as the day went on.?
?
Initially it let me then restart the saw from the wagon or frame without recycling the on/off but would still cut out when I tried to cut about 3/4."? I did not try thinner stuff.
?
I then kept messing around and cleaning as the no longer switching the main switch on/off was a change with the policing of dust around the unit.?
?
Finally got it to rip 2 sticks of 8/4 maple which is how I had started the day but then ran out of time for the day as the family calls.?
?
Fingers crossed next weekend I can actually meet my goals from this weekend.
?
Who knows but the sawdust was likely causing an electronic gremlin somehow.??
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Re: KF 700 - shutting off as blade touches wood
Does as soon as wood is touched mean you are unable to cut any amount of kerf in even thin soft wood?
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Re: Aftermarket saw blade guard for Hammer Winner
Mike, I bought 1999 C3-31 and soon discovered a host of flaws; that dinky little guard, a rip fence that wouldn’t lock down, and a miter gauge that rattled around. Really lame design effort on those items.
For the guard I adapted the SawStop upgrade fence which is a lot less money and time but nowhere near as nice as what you are looking at. For that you need a new and custom riving knife which I drew up and emailed to SendCutSend and they sent back the knife. About $25 for the knife. I can send the file if you are interested.
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Something I don’t understand, there is very little dust coming off my blade, so I never hooked up the DC to it. Might be because I don’t run a lot of sheet goods production style and never MDF type materials.
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You might consider also imbedding a couple magnets into the back of the riving knife if your block rattles around loose as soon as you back off the nut like mine did, and I love the knob but that might be a bit wacky for some people. Sure is convenient though.
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My other modifications are a Unifence with a DRO and an Osborne miter gauge that’s been further modified with some 80/20.
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Re: Raising an FB710 off its crate
Shinta,
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I had a similar situation in my last shop/garage.? It was a finished garage, but it had an attic access that allowed for adding additional lifting height to the chain hoist.? I used a chain hoist because it allows for almost infinite control of your lift speed.? I constructed a 2x "beam" to spread the load of the band saw onto multiple joists and added another foot to the chain hoist attachment point (see picture).? I lifted the saw using the crate, not the eye bolt that the manual specified as the eye bolt requires a much higher lift height.? Once the saw is erected to a height that the center of gravity shifts to the opposite side of the lift chain, it will stand up on its own weight.? In fact, you will need to support the machine's base to control the rate of descend.? Be very careful at this junction.
?
Thanks for the pictures and description of your solution. ?I had not thought to use the crate to lift from but that does seem like it would improve the geometry. ?It appears that the attach point of the hoist to the crate was to the left of the hoist when you began lifting, and the hoist chain rotated counterclockwise through vertical and then to the right as the saw rotated upright. ?Is that right? What point on the saw was directly below the hoist when you started lifting?
?
Is that a single length of black pipe supporting the chain hoist? ?How long is the section of pipe between those 2x8's? ?I was advised by our builder not to hang the hoist from our joists as I'd have to drill through the web of the joist and support the pipe there and he wasn't sure it was rated for a load applied like that. ?I'm thinking to build a couple posts, each composed of 2 or 3 2x6's, which I can fit up between the joists to get maximum height, and run the pipe between them. ?However, if the saw & crate have to swing between them, they'd have to be far enough apart that black pipe seems potentially inadequate, plus the posts have to be held solidly upright as the direction of the load moves, so the design gets more complicated...
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Doug
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Hi Morgan,
is a video that goes part way to explaining the hood for curved work. As i write this, i am thinking i should go into more depth on the hood itself, & so will try to incorporate more detail in the next video on doing curved work on the shaper involving the use of rub collars including jig design.
Regards,
Bryce
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https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHdrRaAZd_pOa7wwbdNPUEw
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Re: KF 700 - shutting off as blade touches wood
I actually never have used the shaper on it, don't even have a head to toss on, ugh.
I will try to get them tomorrow unfortunately they run EST I think which makes it hard as I work the same.
Have a good weekend.
Sent from Verizon mobile
Does the shaper spindle react the same way? They have amp draw settings in the electronics, that's beyond me, I would contact Felder on Monday.?
On Sunday, April 6, 2025 at 09:00:57 AM MST, Kyle Stiefel via <kstiefel= [email protected]> wrote:
Took delivery 2021 Single phase Breaker not tripping Able to switch off and back on at machine so does not come back on without cycling power switch?
Sent from Verizon mobile Need more info... what vintage? Single or three phase? VFD? Tripping the braker at your panel? Does it come back on without turning off the power to the machine?
On Sunday, April 6, 2025 at 08:52:49 AM MST, Kyle Stiefel via <kstiefel= [email protected]> wrote:
Morning folks,
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I have a KF700 and was trying to do some work today.? Now as soon as wood touches the blade the saw is instantly turning off.? This is the first time I have encountered this issue.? The manual doesn't address at all.
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Any suggestions??
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Re: KF 700 - shutting off as blade touches wood
Does the shaper spindle react the same way? They have amp draw settings in the electronics, that's beyond me, I would contact Felder on Monday.?
Brian Lamb blamb11@... lambtoolworks.com
On Sunday, April 6, 2025 at 09:00:57 AM MST, Kyle Stiefel via groups.io <kstiefel@...> wrote:
Took delivery 2021 Single phase Breaker not tripping Able to switch off and back on at machine so does not come back on without cycling power switch?
Sent from Verizon mobile
Need more info... what vintage? Single or three phase? VFD? Tripping the braker at your panel? Does it come back on without turning off the power to the machine?
On Sunday, April 6, 2025 at 08:52:49 AM MST, Kyle Stiefel via <kstiefel= [email protected]> wrote:
Morning folks,
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I have a KF700 and was trying to do some work today.? Now as soon as wood touches the blade the saw is instantly turning off.? This is the first time I have encountered this issue.? The manual doesn't address at all.
?
Any suggestions??
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Re: KF 700 - shutting off as blade touches wood
Took delivery 2021 Single phase Breaker not tripping Able to switch off and back on at machine so does not come back on without cycling power switch?
Sent from Verizon mobile
Need more info... what vintage? Single or three phase? VFD? Tripping the braker at your panel? Does it come back on without turning off the power to the machine?
On Sunday, April 6, 2025 at 08:52:49 AM MST, Kyle Stiefel via <kstiefel= [email protected]> wrote:
Morning folks,
?
I have a KF700 and was trying to do some work today.? Now as soon as wood touches the blade the saw is instantly turning off.? This is the first time I have encountered this issue.? The manual doesn't address at all.
?
Any suggestions??
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Re: KF 700 - shutting off as blade touches wood
Need more info... what vintage? Single or three phase? VFD? Tripping the braker at your panel? Does it come back on without turning off the power to the machine?
Brian Lamb blamb11@... lambtoolworks.com
On Sunday, April 6, 2025 at 08:52:49 AM MST, Kyle Stiefel via groups.io <kstiefel@...> wrote:
Morning folks,
?
I have a KF700 and was trying to do some work today.? Now as soon as wood touches the blade the saw is instantly turning off.? This is the first time I have encountered this issue.? The manual doesn't address at all.
?
Any suggestions??
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KF 700 - shutting off as blade touches wood
Morning folks,
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I have a KF700 and was trying to do some work today.? Now as soon as wood touches the blade the saw is instantly turning off.? This is the first time I have encountered this issue.? The manual doesn't address at all.
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Any suggestions??
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Re: Aftermarket saw blade guard for Hammer Winner
Looks great. ?Thanks!
Mike
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Re: Bead on the outside of the cabinet door
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On Apr 6, 2025, at 5:52?AM, jontathan samways via groups.io <jonathansamways@...> wrote: ? Imran, the expression to plant on must be an British industry thing. I picked it up from the guy that taught me, he trained as a coffin maker, and he was taught by a wheelwright.
Kindest Regards
Jonathan Samways
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Thanks Jonathan. This guy subs doors and drawer fronts to me. I told him he can’t afford me to apply the bead ?
So he is going to do that and I shared with him the methods he can try.
BTW, I am not familiar with industry terms. You and another guy (on my FB group) used the term “Plant”. I assume it means applied. Is there any more to it? On Apr 5, 2025, at 4:28?PM, jontathan samways via <jonathansamways= [email protected]> wrote: ? Imran. I have done solid plant on staff bead its a lot of work, and you have very little room for discrepancy, but it does look extremely nice. Most would add the staff bead to the frame, this way its easy to do any adjustment to the door. Kindest Regards
Jonathan Samways
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Thank you Brett and Jared. Those are essentially the options I received on my FB group. We got people with good experience ? On Apr 5, 2025, at 2:30?PM, Jared Sankovich via <Sankovichj= [email protected]> wrote: ? Cnc mdf, mitered solid or an applied bead.? Those look cnc or mitered
Imran,?
1.That photo suggests CNC made the exterior bead.
2.For a more traditional technique, run some molded/bead edgebanding, and affix around outside perimeter?as trim detail.
3. Or route/plane the beads in the straights as close to corners as can be found, and finish corners by hand.
What is the best way to achieve a bead like below around the outside perimeter of the door?
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Brett Wissel Saint Louis Restoration (at 314.772.2167 brett@...
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Re: Bead on the outside of the cabinet door
Imran, the expression to plant on must be an British industry thing. I picked it up from the guy that taught me, he trained as a coffin maker, and he was taught by a wheelwright.
Kindest Regards
Jonathan Samways
Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario y puede contener información privilegiada o confidencial. Si no es vd.el destinatario indicado, queda notificado de que la utilización, divulgación y/o copia sin autorización está prohibida en virtud de la legislación vigente. Si ha recibido este mensaje por error, le rogamos que nos lo comunique inmediatamente por esta misma vía y proceda a su destrucción. This message is intended exclusively for its addressee and may contain information that is confidential and protected by professional privilege.If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, copy or disclosure of this communication is strictly prohibited by law. If this message has been received in error, please immediately notify us via e-mail and delete it.
Thanks Jonathan. This guy subs doors and drawer fronts to me. I told him he can’t afford me to apply the bead ?
So he is going to do that and I shared with him the methods he can try.
BTW, I am not familiar with industry terms. You and another guy (on my FB group) used the term “Plant”. I assume it means applied. Is there any more to it? On Apr 5, 2025, at 4:28?PM, jontathan samways via <jonathansamways= [email protected]> wrote: ? Imran. I have done solid plant on staff bead its a lot of work, and you have very little room for discrepancy, but it does look extremely nice. Most would add the staff bead to the frame, this way its easy to do any adjustment to the door. Kindest Regards
Jonathan Samways
Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario y puede contener información privilegiada o confidencial. Si no es vd.el destinatario indicado, queda notificado de que la utilización, divulgación y/o copia sin autorización está prohibida en virtud de la legislación vigente. Si ha recibido este mensaje por error, le rogamos que nos lo comunique inmediatamente por esta misma vía y proceda a su destrucción. This message is intended exclusively for its addressee and may contain information that is confidential and protected by professional privilege.If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, copy or disclosure of this communication is strictly prohibited by law. If this message has been received in error, please immediately notify us via e-mail and delete it.
Thank you Brett and Jared. Those are essentially the options I received on my FB group. We got people with good experience ? On Apr 5, 2025, at 2:30?PM, Jared Sankovich via <Sankovichj= [email protected]> wrote: ? Cnc mdf, mitered solid or an applied bead.? Those look cnc or mitered
Imran,?
1.That photo suggests CNC made the exterior bead.
2.For a more traditional technique, run some molded/bead edgebanding, and affix around outside perimeter?as trim detail.
3. Or route/plane the beads in the straights as close to corners as can be found, and finish corners by hand.
What is the best way to achieve a bead like below around the outside perimeter of the door?
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Brett Wissel Saint Louis Restoration (at 314.772.2167 brett@...
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