Re: Adjustable pull out trays
Interesting. Good to know.
Imran
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On Jan 6, 2022, at 7:54 AM, David Sabo via groups.io <sabo_dave@...> wrote: ? An inexpensive, off the shelf, adjustable system has been available for a decade or more.?
Dave
Sent from my iEye On Jan 6, 2022, at 7:15 AM, Terence via groups.io <terencewoolston@...> wrote:
? David: ?Nicely done on the cherry cabinet. ?Terry
Glen, have a look at the adjustable shelf pull-out system I came up with for a client. ??
The goal here was to have adjustable height pull-out shelves behind doors that are hung with butt hinges. ?The client insisted that the shelves pull out full extension with the doors only open to 95¡ã. ?On this job, the client had a strong bias against using Blum or Euro-style door/drawer hinges/slides. ?I decided to use conventional self-closing full-extension drawer slides - in this case?Accuride 3832C ?18¡± Full Extension Self-Close Slides. ? As you will see in the descriptions that go with each photo, each drawer slide is mounted on a batten that can be moved up/down within the cabinet on 30mm mounting centers. ?The batten has a slot at each end that registers with a shelf pin installed in shelf-pin holes in the cabinet sides near the front and back of the cabinet. ?These pins establish the height and level-alignment of the drawer slide, and also block-out the slides so that they clear the doors open at 95¡ã. ?Each slide & batten is secured in place with a flat head machine screw into threaded inserts which are installed on both sides of the cabinet, again on 30mm centers but above the level of the shelf pins. ?Check out the details at the link above.
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Well While I am at it and until I fix my spindle..
One of the jobs I am doing now, The customer wants pull out trays in the lowers.
You remember those things we did in the 80/90 days instead of drawers.
so because I like to go on and above I would like to make them adjustable.
I am looking for ideas on doing that. I thought about a runner for the slide that pins in to the shelf support holes that I did not drill in this case, but not sure if they would stay in place when the tray is pulled out.
Any ideas, TIA
Glen
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Re: Adjustable pull out trays
An inexpensive, off the shelf, adjustable system has been available for a decade or more.?
Dave
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On Jan 6, 2022, at 7:15 AM, Terence via groups.io <terencewoolston@...> wrote:
? David: ?Nicely done on the cherry cabinet. ?Terry
Glen, have a look at the adjustable shelf pull-out system I came up with for a client. ??
The goal here was to have adjustable height pull-out shelves behind doors that are hung with butt hinges. ?The client insisted that the shelves pull out full extension with the doors only open to 95¡ã. ?On this job, the client had a strong bias against using Blum or Euro-style door/drawer hinges/slides. ?I decided to use conventional self-closing full-extension drawer slides - in this case?Accuride 3832C ?18¡± Full Extension Self-Close Slides. ? As you will see in the descriptions that go with each photo, each drawer slide is mounted on a batten that can be moved up/down within the cabinet on 30mm mounting centers. ?The batten has a slot at each end that registers with a shelf pin installed in shelf-pin holes in the cabinet sides near the front and back of the cabinet. ?These pins establish the height and level-alignment of the drawer slide, and also block-out the slides so that they clear the doors open at 95¡ã. ?Each slide & batten is secured in place with a flat head machine screw into threaded inserts which are installed on both sides of the cabinet, again on 30mm centers but above the level of the shelf pins. ?Check out the details at the link above.
<Hitachi Potential Mounting - 2 (2).jpeg>
<Hitachi Potential Mounting - 5 (1).jpeg>
Well While I am at it and until I fix my spindle..
One of the jobs I am doing now, The customer wants pull out trays in the lowers.
You remember those things we did in the 80/90 days instead of drawers.
so because I like to go on and above I would like to make them adjustable.
I am looking for ideas on doing that. I thought about a runner for the slide that pins in to the shelf support holes that I did not drill in this case, but not sure if they would stay in place when the tray is pulled out.
Any ideas, TIA
Glen
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Re: Adjustable pull out trays
David: ?Nicely done on the cherry cabinet. ?Terry
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Glen, have a look at the adjustable shelf pull-out system I came up with for a client. ??
The goal here was to have adjustable height pull-out shelves behind doors that are hung with butt hinges. ?The client insisted that the shelves pull out full extension with the doors only open to 95¡ã. ?On this job, the client had a strong bias against using Blum or Euro-style door/drawer hinges/slides. ?I decided to use conventional self-closing full-extension drawer slides - in this case?Accuride 3832C ?18¡± Full Extension Self-Close Slides. ? As you will see in the descriptions that go with each photo, each drawer slide is mounted on a batten that can be moved up/down within the cabinet on 30mm mounting centers. ?The batten has a slot at each end that registers with a shelf pin installed in shelf-pin holes in the cabinet sides near the front and back of the cabinet. ?These pins establish the height and level-alignment of the drawer slide, and also block-out the slides so that they clear the doors open at 95¡ã. ?Each slide & batten is secured in place with a flat head machine screw into threaded inserts which are installed on both sides of the cabinet, again on 30mm centers but above the level of the shelf pins. ?Check out the details at the link above.
<Hitachi Potential Mounting - 2 (2).jpeg>
<Hitachi Potential Mounting - 5 (1).jpeg>
Well While I am at it and until I fix my spindle..
One of the jobs I am doing now, The customer wants pull out trays in the lowers.
You remember those things we did in the 80/90 days instead of drawers.
so because I like to go on and above I would like to make them adjustable.
I am looking for ideas on doing that. I thought about a runner for the slide that pins in to the shelf support holes that I did not drill in this case, but not sure if they would stay in place when the tray is pulled out.
Any ideas, TIA
Glen
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Re: Problem with Delivery of new Felder K770S
I did forget to mention that the Pitt-Ohio driver who dropped off the HS950 didn't ask me to sign anything. Just handed me the paperwork, told me there was nothing to sign and he was gone. I'll be giving Felder logistics some feedback on that.
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Re: Adjustable pull out trays
No reason the design requires screws and tool other than my own paranoia. ?With the drawer/shelf installed, the slides & battens are captivated and aren¡¯t going anywhere.
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That would work. I made the assumption that it had to be tool less as in adjusting shelves.
Imran ? Glen, have a look at the adjustable shelf pull-out system I came up with for a client. ??
The goal here was to have adjustable height pull-out shelves behind doors that are hung with butt hinges. ?The client insisted that the shelves pull out full extension with the doors only open to 95¡ã. ?On this job, the client had a strong bias against using Blum or Euro-style door/drawer hinges/slides. ?I decided to use conventional self-closing full-extension drawer slides - in this case?Accuride 3832C ?18¡± Full Extension Self-Close Slides. ? As you will see in the descriptions that go with each photo, each drawer slide is mounted on a batten that can be moved up/down within the cabinet on 30mm mounting centers. ?The batten has a slot at each end that registers with a shelf pin installed in shelf-pin holes in the cabinet sides near the front and back of the cabinet. ?These pins establish the height and level-alignment of the drawer slide, and also block-out the slides so that they clear the doors open at 95¡ã. ?Each slide & batten is secured in place with a flat head machine screw into threaded inserts which are installed on both sides of the cabinet, again on 30mm centers but above the level of the shelf pins. ?Check out the details at the link above.
<Hitachi Potential Mounting - 2 (2).jpeg>
<Hitachi Potential Mounting - 5 (1).jpeg>
Well While I am at it and until I fix my spindle..
One of the jobs I am doing now, The customer wants pull out trays in the lowers.
You remember those things we did in the 80/90 days instead of drawers.
so because I like to go on and above I would like to make them adjustable.
I am looking for ideas on doing that. I thought about a runner for the slide that pins in to the shelf support holes that I did not drill in this case, but not sure if they would stay in place when the tray is pulled out.
Any ideas, TIA
Glen
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Re: Adjustable pull out trays
That would work. I made the assumption that it had to be tool less as in adjusting shelves.
Imran
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On Jan 6, 2022, at 12:44 AM, david@... via groups.io <david@...> wrote: ? Glen, have a look at the adjustable shelf pull-out system I came up with for a client. ??
The goal here was to have adjustable height pull-out shelves behind doors that are hung with butt hinges. ?The client insisted that the shelves pull out full extension with the doors only open to 95¡ã. ?On this job, the client had a strong bias against using Blum or Euro-style door/drawer hinges/slides. ?I decided to use conventional self-closing full-extension drawer slides - in this case?Accuride 3832C ?18¡± Full Extension Self-Close Slides. ? As you will see in the descriptions that go with each photo, each drawer slide is mounted on a batten that can be moved up/down within the cabinet on 30mm mounting centers. ?The batten has a slot at each end that registers with a shelf pin installed in shelf-pin holes in the cabinet sides near the front and back of the cabinet. ?These pins establish the height and level-alignment of the drawer slide, and also block-out the slides so that they clear the doors open at 95¡ã. ?Each slide & batten is secured in place with a flat head machine screw into threaded inserts which are installed on both sides of the cabinet, again on 30mm centers but above the level of the shelf pins. ?Check out the details at the link above.
<Hitachi Potential Mounting - 2 (2).jpeg>
<Hitachi Potential Mounting - 5 (1).jpeg>
David Best
https://www.instagram.com/davidpbest/
Well While I am at it and until I fix my spindle..
One of the jobs I am doing now, The customer wants pull out trays in the lowers.
You remember those things we did in the 80/90 days instead of drawers.
so because I like to go on and above I would like to make them adjustable.
I am looking for ideas on doing that. I thought about a runner for the slide that pins in to the shelf support holes that I did not drill in this case, but not sure if they would stay in place when the tray is pulled out.
Any ideas, TIA
Glen
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Re: Adjustable pull out trays
Glen, have a look at the adjustable shelf pull-out system I came up with for a client. ??
The goal here was to have adjustable height pull-out shelves behind doors that are hung with butt hinges. ?The client insisted that the shelves pull out full extension with the doors only open to 95¡ã. ?On this job, the client had a strong bias against using Blum or Euro-style door/drawer hinges/slides. ?I decided to use conventional self-closing full-extension drawer slides - in this case?Accuride 3832C ?18¡± Full Extension Self-Close Slides. ? As you will see in the descriptions that go with each photo, each drawer slide is mounted on a batten that can be moved up/down within the cabinet on 30mm mounting centers. ?The batten has a slot at each end that registers with a shelf pin installed in shelf-pin holes in the cabinet sides near the front and back of the cabinet. ?These pins establish the height and level-alignment of the drawer slide, and also block-out the slides so that they clear the doors open at 95¡ã. ?Each slide & batten is secured in place with a flat head machine screw into threaded inserts which are installed on both sides of the cabinet, again on 30mm centers but above the level of the shelf pins. ?Check out the details at the link above.
David Best
https://www.instagram.com/davidpbest/
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Well While I am at it and until I fix my spindle..
One of the jobs I am doing now, The customer wants pull out trays in the lowers.
You remember those things we did in the 80/90 days instead of drawers.
so because I like to go on and above I would like to make them adjustable.
I am looking for ideas on doing that. I thought about a runner for the slide that pins in to the shelf support holes that I did not drill in this case, but not sure if they would stay in place when the tray is pulled out.
Any ideas, TIA
Glen
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Re: Adjustable pull out trays
?Glen, ?First thought that comes to mind is having a stack of dovetail ways on the inside on each side of the lower cabinet. The width of the dovetail way should be wide enough to receive a dovetailed part that one can mount the drawer slide to. A pin/screw of sort will be required to prevent the dovetail slide to pull out.
Not as adjustable as pins but I can¡¯t imagine that working without incorporating lateral support that would keep the runners pushed into the cabinet sides. This support will also push on the sides of the cabinet outward. I guess the drawer could itself be tight fitting to accomplish this but I am not sure if slides are designed to do so. Also, it would not be easy to relocate them because the runners would need to be held onto the sides while the drawer is inserted. Maybe I am not following this concept properly.
Imran?
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On Jan 5, 2022, at 11:00 PM, Glen Christensen <grchris1966@...> wrote: ?Well While I am at it and until I fix my spindle..
One of the jobs I am doing now, The customer wants pull out trays in the lowers.
You remember those things we did in the 80/90 days instead of drawers.
so because I like to go on and above I would like to make them adjustable.
I am looking for ideas on doing that. I thought about a runner for the slide that pins in to the shelf support holes that I did not drill in this case, but not sure if they would stay in place when the tray is pulled out.
Any ideas, TIA
Glen
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Adjustable pull out trays
Well While I am at it and until I fix my spindle..
One of the jobs I am doing now, The customer wants pull out trays in the lowers.
You remember those things we did in the 80/90 days instead of drawers.
so because I like to go on and above I would like to make them adjustable.
I am looking for ideas on doing that. I thought about a runner for the slide that pins in to the shelf support holes that I did not drill in this case, but not sure if they would stay in place when the tray is pulled out.
Any ideas, TIA
Glen
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Has anyone experienced the digital readout on their 941 not displaying anything but yet the machine runs fine? I've had my readout not turn on or show the readout but yet came on after I turned the machine off then back on 30 minutes later.. like some sort of loose wire or something
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Re: I need a little shaper help
Been there, done that. ?In my case the cutter itself was spin welded to the shaft. ?I had it pressed off at a machine shop (something I could do myself now), but the shaft was so badly damaged that it was scrapped. ?The Whitehill cutter survived and still in use. ??
If Mac¡¯s suggestions don¡¯t free up the bushings, take the spindle to a local machine shop.? David Best - Sent from my iPad
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On Jan 5, 2022, at 5:59 PM, mac campshure via groups.io <mac512002@...> wrote:
? Glen Bet you won¡¯t do that again!! I would file off the burr with a fine fie, just the burr you will be fine maybe a little emery cloth only on the spot. Mac,, Designing and building for 50 years On Jan 5, 2022, at 7:49 PM, Glen Christensen <grchris1966@...> wrote:
?Hi All,
Well I have apparently spun a cutter head on the shaft. Not sure how this happened as the stack was very tight and I know have the last spacer above the top of the shaft.
my guess is it wasn't high enough.
I got the cutter off but I cant get the lower spacers off.
So what route should I take.I can see the slightest burr on the shaft. That is why I assumed I spun the cutter.
Go figure I was having my most productive day in a long time.
Thanks In advance.
Glen
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Re: I need a little shaper help
Glen Bet you won¡¯t do that again!! I would file off the burr with a fine fie, just the burr you will be fine maybe a little emery cloth only on the spot. Mac,, Designing and building for 50 years
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On Jan 5, 2022, at 7:49 PM, Glen Christensen <grchris1966@...> wrote:
?Hi All,
Well I have apparently spun a cutter head on the shaft. Not sure how this happened as the stack was very tight and I know have the last spacer above the top of the shaft.
my guess is it wasn't high enough.
I got the cutter off but I cant get the lower spacers off.
So what route should I take.I can see the slightest burr on the shaft. That is why I assumed I spun the cutter.
Go figure I was having my most productive day in a long time.
Thanks In advance.
Glen
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I need a little shaper help
Hi All,
Well I have apparently spun a cutter head on the shaft. Not sure how this happened as the stack was very tight and I know have the last spacer above the top of the shaft.
my guess is it wasn't high enough.
I got the cutter off but I cant get the lower spacers off.
So what route should I take.I can see the slightest burr on the shaft. That is why I assumed I spun the cutter.
Go figure I was having my most productive day in a long time.
Thanks In advance.
Glen
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He emailed me 12/31.? He said thanks to the FOG he was sold out for now!? I am sure he will make more!
That is the price - $295.
PK
PKwoodworking
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Re: Martin Fritz and Franz Jig For Sale
Hi, Scott, have you sold the F & F Jig. I would very much like to purchase it. But would you consider $525. If so, I¡¯ll buy it using PayPal.?
If you¡¯d like to talk on the phone about this?let me know.?
? Thanks in advance.?
? ? ? Michael Thomas
On Wed, Jan 5, 2022 at 1:24 PM scott.charmack < scharmac@...> wrote: Hi Mac, let me start by saying that you are partially responsible for me thinking about selling this jig because your clamps are simply awesome.? In terms of the Ruwi F & F Jig I made one for 90 degree cuts and another jig for 45 degree cuts based on a suggested design by Lon Chen.? So the Ruwi jig would be useful for any cuts of other angles but I just haven't used it much.? Am I missing something in terms of use of the jig?
Scott
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Re: Martin Fritz and Franz Jig For Sale
Hello Scott...I replied to your contact email regarding your Fritz and Franz.
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Re: Problem with Delivery of new Felder K770S
As Bill Hope pointed out, many deliveries go without issue. I've received four separate shipments from Felder (KF700, A3-41, HS950, RL160+FAT500), and all have been super easy, no-frills affairs.?
I totally understand the impulse to take ownership of a machine that you've waited close to a year to receive, but I think it's important to keep in mind that Felder is explicit about:
-- Completely inspecting the machine prior to signing the delivery paperwork
-- If there is any damage (or even evidence that there?might be damage, you are to call Felder prior to signing anything
-- Felder's official line is: "If you're not sure, it's better to refuse delivery so we can hold the freight company responsible and NOT involve you in the claims process. "
By accepting delivery, you are releasing the freight company from any responsibility for damage, and once they've been released they're going to fight ferociously to avoid getting dragged back in. Even after many, many months of waiting, better to wait a few more months and get a machine in good condition, than to accept a damaged machine that might take months to fix/resolve (if at all)...?
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Tom Gensmer
Heritage Home Renewals, LLC
Minneapolis, MN
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All: ?
Yes, $295 plus shipping, super responsive but said he just had a couple left due to this Felder group surge¡lol.
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If I remember correctly they were $295 plus shipping Dave Davies On Wed, Jan 5, 2022 at 3:11 PM Bill Belanger < Bill@...> wrote: Joe, Maybe he has too many?
Sorry, couldn¡¯t resist. LOL
I didn¡¯t ?reach out to him yet so i don¡¯t know what price he¡¯s asking, if I¡¯m the Bill you¡¯re asking. David Davies should know¡.
Bill Belanger
On Wed, Jan 5, 2022 at 13:36 Joe Jensen < joe@...> wrote: Bill, what is he selling them for? ? ? Bill, ??I emailed Michael directly.? It wasn't on his website.?? ? On Sun, Jan 2, 2022 at 12:24 PM Bill Belanger <Bill@...> wrote: How did you order one David? I don't see that option on the WestOak website.. ? It must be easy to store since you can't even see it in the picture.? I ordered one and if I don't have room it'll just stay broken down until I get my retirement shop...and Panel Handler and Barth apparently. ? On Sun, Jan 2, 2022 at 12:05 PM joelgelman via??<joelgelman=[email protected]> wrote: I store my CHD as shown in the picture (yellow arrow).? Very convenient.? A great product.? I do not have a lot of maneuvering room, but when I have 4x8 plywood near the saw, the CHD helps me get the wood on the saw.? Of course more wiggle room would be ideal, but even with my current space limitations, it has value.?
--? Dave & Marie Davies
318-219-7868
--? Dave & Marie Davies
318-219-7868
--?Dave & Marie Davies
318-219-7868
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If I remember correctly they were $295 plus shipping Dave Davies
On Wed, Jan 5, 2022 at 3:11 PM Bill Belanger < Bill@...> wrote: Joe, Maybe he has too many?
Sorry, couldn¡¯t resist. LOL
I didn¡¯t ?reach out to him yet so i don¡¯t know what price he¡¯s asking, if I¡¯m the Bill you¡¯re asking. David Davies should know¡.
Bill Belanger
On Wed, Jan 5, 2022 at 13:36 Joe Jensen < joe@...> wrote: Bill, what is he selling them for? ? ? Bill, ? I emailed Michael directly.? It wasn't on his website.?? ? On Sun, Jan 2, 2022 at 12:24 PM Bill Belanger <Bill@...> wrote: How did you order one David? I don't see that option on the WestOak website.. ? It must be easy to store since you can't even see it in the picture.? I ordered one and if I don't have room it'll just stay broken down until I get my retirement shop...and Panel Handler and Barth apparently. ? I store my CHD as shown in the picture (yellow arrow).? Very convenient.? A great product.? I do not have a lot of maneuvering room, but when I have 4x8 plywood near the saw, the CHD helps me get the wood on the saw.? Of course more wiggle room would be ideal, but even with my current space limitations, it has value.
-- Dave & Marie Davies
318-219-7868
-- Dave & Marie Davies
318-219-7868
-- Dave & Marie Davies
318-219-7868
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Joe, Maybe he has too many?
Sorry, couldn¡¯t resist. LOL
I didn¡¯t ?reach out to him yet so i don¡¯t know what price he¡¯s asking, if I¡¯m the Bill you¡¯re asking. David Davies should know¡.
Bill Belanger
On Wed, Jan 5, 2022 at 13:36 Joe Jensen < joe@...> wrote: Bill, what is he selling them for? ? ? Bill, ? I emailed Michael directly.? It wasn't on his website.?? ? On Sun, Jan 2, 2022 at 12:24 PM Bill Belanger <Bill@...> wrote: How did you order one David? I don't see that option on the WestOak website.. ? It must be easy to store since you can't even see it in the picture.? I ordered one and if I don't have room it'll just stay broken down until I get my retirement shop...and Panel Handler and Barth apparently. ? I store my CHD as shown in the picture (yellow arrow).? Very convenient.? A great product.? I do not have a lot of maneuvering room, but when I have 4x8 plywood near the saw, the CHD helps me get the wood on the saw.? Of course more wiggle room would be ideal, but even with my current space limitations, it has value.
-- Dave & Marie Davies
318-219-7868
-- Dave & Marie Davies
318-219-7868
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