Re: Festool shop vac and sanders
CT36 with auto clean is only needed for Festool drywall sander.
Festool long life bag is expensive, $215 for CT26, wow. For shop use, Onedia cyclone () is a good choice, so you will never worry about changing the bag.
James
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This is an interesting thread. I have the midi, a CT33, CT36 and CT48, plus multiple sanders including a vintage Rotex 150 (year: 1996), ETS EC150/5, ETS EC150/3 and new Rotex 150. I love all the sanders and regard the new brushless sanders to be worth the money if used constantly. I can hardly tell the difference between the /5 and /3. However, I use one for general sanding and the other for finish sanding.?
My old CT33 has a manual filter cleaning system. But all the newer CTs have nothing I can find? I do not "appear" to experience any loss of suction until the bag is so full the dust/chips start backing up the hose. LOL!! I have long life bags fitted.
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Question for you folks with Festool vacuums...,
Do they have some way of cleaning the filters of dust? I see the 36 model has an upgraded option, Autoclean, but no mention of filter cleaning on the rest of the line. There IS mention of their "new self cleaning bag".
I bought a Fein decades ago, and the thing was quiet, but the filters would have to be cleaned numerous times per day when connected to a sander, in order to regain suction. Also years ago, I bought an Italian sourced, larger vacuum..., very nice, quiet, but the same issue of rapidly losing suction when sanding.
For a bit over a year I've used a 12 gallon, Makita VC4710, which has an auto cleaning function where every 15 seconds or so it shuts down one of the two filters and blows it clean..., 15 seconds later it does the same to the other. Full suction is continuously maintained
throughout use, bags can be filled to the brim before emptying and I'm a happy camper.
I figure that as happy as folks seem with their Festool vacs, there must be at least a manual method of periodically cleaning filters, but I'm just not finding it in the literature...
Thanks,
Lance |
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I've had a CT26 for years and like it.? I have an Oneida cyclone to ?catch the big stuff, so that my bags last longer. ? I am not a fan of the tool receptacle. ? Doesn't work consistently with festool cords so I have a work around tri plug. Hope that they have improved that, but otherwise a great vacuum.? Marlowe McGraw?
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Re: Festool shop vac and sanders
This is an interesting thread. I have the midi, a CT33, CT36 and CT48, plus multiple sanders including a vintage Rotex 150 (year: 1996), ETS EC150/5, ETS EC150/3 and new Rotex 150. I love all the sanders and regard the new brushless sanders to be worth the money if used constantly. I can hardly tell the difference between the /5 and /3. However, I use one for general sanding and the other for finish sanding.?
My old CT33 has a manual filter cleaning system. But all the newer CTs have nothing I can find? I do not "appear" to experience any loss of suction until the bag is so full the dust/chips start backing up the hose. LOL!! I have long life bags fitted.
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On 9 Feb. 2017, at 7:23 am, Lance Clifford offaces@... [felder-woodworking] < felder-woodworking@...> wrote:
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Question for you folks with Festool vacuums...,
Do they have some way of cleaning the filters of dust? I see the 36 model has an upgraded option, Autoclean, but no mention of filter cleaning on the rest of the line. There IS mention of their "new self cleaning bag".
I bought a Fein decades ago, and the thing was quiet, but the filters would have to be cleaned numerous times per day when connected to a sander, in order to regain suction. Also years ago, I bought an Italian sourced, larger vacuum..., very nice, quiet, but the same issue of rapidly losing suction when sanding.
For a bit over a year I've used a 12 gallon, Makita VC4710, which has an auto cleaning function where every 15 seconds or so it shuts down one of the two filters and blows it clean..., 15 seconds later it does the same to the other. Full suction is continuously maintained
throughout use, bags can be filled to the brim before emptying and I'm a happy camper.
I figure that as happy as folks seem with their Festool vacs, there must be at least a manual method of periodically cleaning filters, but I'm just not finding it in the literature...
Thanks,
Lance |
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I've had a CT26 for years and like it.? I have an Oneida cyclone to ?catch the big stuff, so that my bags last longer. ? I am not a fan of the tool receptacle. ? Doesn't work consistently with festool cords so I have a work around tri plug. Hope that they have improved that, but otherwise a great vacuum.? Marlowe McGraw?
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Re: Festool shop vac and sanders
Question for you folks with Festool vacuums...,
Do they have some way of cleaning the filters of dust? I see the 36 model has an upgraded option, Autoclean, but no mention of filter cleaning on the rest of the line. There IS mention of their "new self cleaning bag".
I bought a Fein decades ago, and the thing was quiet, but the filters would have to be cleaned numerous times per day when connected to a sander, in order to regain suction. Also years ago, I bought an Italian sourced, larger vacuum..., very nice, quiet, but the same issue of rapidly losing suction when sanding.
For a bit over a year I've used a 12 gallon, Makita VC4710, which has an auto cleaning function where every 15 seconds or so it shuts down one of the two filters and blows it clean..., 15 seconds later it does the same to the other. Full suction is continuously maintained
throughout use, bags can be filled to the brim before emptying and I'm a happy camper.
I figure that as happy as folks seem with their Festool vacs, there must be at least a manual method of periodically cleaning filters, but I'm just not finding it in the literature...
Thanks,
Lance |
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I've had a CT26 for years and like it.? I have an Oneida cyclone to ?catch the big stuff, so that my bags last longer. ? I am not a fan of the tool receptacle. ? Doesn't work consistently with festool cords so I have a work around tri plug. Hope that they have improved that, but otherwise a great vacuum.? Marlowe McGraw? |
On Feb 8, 2017 1:31 PM, " imranindiana@... [felder-woodworking]" < felder-woodworking@...> wrote:
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I got CT26 to get to the large rear wheel. Next to larger models have no more CFM. I only use it for sanding so did not need larger capacity. I use my cyclone DC to sweep so I do not fill up the CT26 filter bag.
Hope this is helpful.
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Re: Festool shop vac and sanders
The work around for the enigmatic receptacle is to use an orange molded single plug to three receptacle roughly 1 foot extention. ? It is the style that has a split brass flat portion that can be expanded by a flat Blade screwdriver. ? This helps contact the internal contacts of the receptacle.?
On Feb 8, 2017 2:40 PM, "S L ayesurely@... [felder-woodworking]" < felder-woodworking@...> wrote:
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John
I'll be working mainly with solid hardwoods and using hand applied clear finishes, looking at the festool website I'm presuming the ETS EC 150/3 might be a better choice for me rather than the 5 mm orbit?
Also the reason that I'm pushing these purchases forward (in front of other stuff I need as I continue to get properly set up) is that I think i might have the ability to get a 15% discount for a limited time on a limited range of festool stuff....Unfortunately the Ct 36 isn't part of that range so the CT 26 would cost me ?365 vs ?540 for the CT 36
I'm really not up to speed with all the festool gear...The WCR 1000? is new to me but I can see how that could be a great help.
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Stephen I have both the 26 and 36. We had a recall on the Mini/Midi in Canada a few years due to lack of a CSA approval sticker and Festool replaced it with a CT26. If the vac is going to be shop based I would suggest the CTL36, basically same vac bigger capacity, the bags are just a little more expensive. I have had mine setup with the boomarm and WCR1000. Both make life easier. The new ETS EC sanders IMHO are a cross between the old ETS and RO's. Lots of power, I use the ETS EC 150/5 with the blue pad. Even with the larger orbit no swirls. I still really like my old ETS 150/3 for flat sanding but the instant stop has me using the new one more and more. The RO150 has its place especially in aggressive mode and is another much used tool.
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Stephen I have both the 26 and 36. We had a recall on the Mini/Midi in Canada a few years due to lack of a CSA approval sticker and Festool replaced it with a CT26. If the vac is going to be shop based I would suggest the CTL36, basically same vac bigger capacity, the bags are just a little more expensive. I have had mine setup with the boomarm and WCR1000. Both make life easier. The new ETS EC sanders IMHO are a cross between the old ETS and RO's. Lots of power, I use the ETS EC 150/5 with the blue pad. Even with the larger orbit no swirls. I still really like my old ETS 150/3 for flat sanding but the instant stop has me using the new one more and more. The RO150 has its place especially in aggressive mode and is another much used tool.
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You have to go for the deals, Festool seem have different specials everywhere. The 150/3 might be a better choice, I typically don't use a sander between coats, I knock the bumps off and scuff with 500P foam back paper by hand. The difference is the only ?finishes I apply by hand are oils everything else WB spray. Let know if you want a few pics of the vac setup I'm using.?
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John
I'll be working mainly with solid hardwoods and using hand applied clear finishes, looking at the festool website I'm presuming the ETS EC 150/3 might be a better choice for me rather than the 5 mm orbit?
Also the reason that I'm pushing these purchases forward (in front of other stuff I need as I continue to get properly set up) is that I think i might have the ability to get a 15% discount for a limited time on a limited range of festool stuff....Unfortunately the Ct 36 isn't part of that range so the CT 26 would cost me ?365 vs ?540 for the CT 36
I'm really not up to speed with all the festool gear...The WCR 1000? is new to me but I can see how that could be a great help.
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Stephen I have both the 26 and 36. We had a recall on the Mini/Midi in Canada a few years due to lack of a CSA approval sticker and Festool replaced it with a CT26. If the vac is going to be shop based I would suggest the CTL36, basically same vac bigger capacity, the bags are just a little more expensive. I have had mine setup with the boomarm and WCR1000. Both make life easier. The new ETS EC sanders IMHO are a cross between the old ETS and RO's. Lots of power, I use the ETS EC 150/5 with the blue pad. Even with the larger orbit no swirls. I still really like my old ETS 150/3 for flat sanding but the instant stop has me using the new one more and more. The RO150 has its place especially in aggressive mode and is another much used tool.
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Stephen I have both the 26 and 36. We had a recall on the Mini/Midi in Canada a few years due to lack of a CSA approval sticker and Festool replaced it with a CT26. If the vac is going to be shop based I would suggest the CTL36, basically same vac bigger capacity, the bags are just a little more expensive. I have had mine setup with the boomarm and WCR1000. Both make life easier. The new ETS EC sanders IMHO are a cross between the old ETS and RO's. Lots of power, I use the ETS EC 150/5 with the blue pad. Even with the larger orbit no swirls. I still really like my old ETS 150/3 for flat sanding but the instant stop has me using the new one more and more. The RO150 has its place especially in aggressive mode and is another much used tool.
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I'll be working mainly with solid hardwoods and using hand applied clear finishes, looking at the festool website I'm presuming the ETS EC 150/3 might be a better choice for me rather than the 5 mm orbit??
I’ll throw in my 2 cents and say that if you’re working with harder hardwoods like maple or oak, the 3mm is too slow. ?You’ll sand your brains out. If you can have only one, get the 5mm. ?I prefer the 5mm stroke for 80-120 grit sanding and the 3mm for 150 and above, but the only difference is that the 5mm can leave more visible swirls. ?This is easily minimized or eliminated (e.g. final sanding with the grain)
Regards, -Denis
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On the idea of REMOTE START for the dust extractor. My dust extractor is in a separate open sided space in an effort to keep fine dust and noise away. It is 3 phase with a switch on the wall inside the main shop. I had an electrician install a low voltage relay in the switch wire designed to operate a ceiling fan. I now have a small remote in my pocket that will operate my dust extractor from anywhere in my large two story space.
On the sander question: Any one in the forum using pneumatic Sanders?
Uncle Clint
On 6 Feb 2017 7:35 a.m., " apbt1976@... [felder-woodworking]" < felder-woodworking@...> wrote:
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Anyone ever use one for beaded face frames. If so i have a few questions before i take a long drive and or waste my time and money.
I was also going to start a pneumatic blast gate topic. The more important issue at the moment is the Morso machine but why clog up the forum with two threads. We all get these emails so im sure the thread will get read top to bottom by most.
Anyone use the pnuematic blast gates and have any thoughts to offer. Also inwould like to get my single phase RL setup to remote start or some kind or setup so im not walking back and forth across my shop all day.
Felder has auto start units for single phase machines now. I feel like a read something negative about them recently though?
The pneumatic blast gate question is inline with my last thread asking about plumbing air lines. I started thinking long and hard about my future air needs with regard CFM and not over or under sizing my lines or compressor.?
Long term i could see the use for air as goes. Air clamps, nail guns, blast gates, filter cleaning of the RL. I will also add a brand new Martin slider TS and shaper to my shop, maybe a widebelt. Im not sure any of these machines need or can be outfited to air. Like if i get the Martin T75 Prex and i get the lubrication function for cutting metal does that operate off compressed air? If so what kind of PSI and CFM is required. Even the Morso machine can be had with a pneumatic option.?
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Re: Festool shop vac and sanders
Marlowe
I had considered getting a mini cyclone for the ct midi but thought I'd would be a bit of a pain to move around the workshop .
By tool receptical are u referring to the socket used for connecting power tool to the vac? I've never had any trouble but of course I have different plugs here.
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I've had a CT26 for years and like it.? I have an Oneida cyclone to ?catch the big stuff, so that my bags last longer. ? I am not a fan of the tool receptacle. ? Doesn't work consistently with festool cords so I have a work around tri plug. Hope that they have improved that, but otherwise a great vacuum.? Marlowe McGraw?
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John
I'll be working mainly with solid hardwoods and using hand applied clear finishes, looking at the festool website I'm presuming the ETS EC 150/3 might be a better choice for me rather than the 5 mm orbit?
Also the reason that I'm pushing these purchases forward (in front of other stuff I need as I continue to get properly set up) is that I think i might have the ability to get a 15% discount for a limited time on a limited range of festool stuff....Unfortunately the Ct 36 isn't part of that range so the CT 26 would cost me ?365 vs ?540 for the CT 36
I'm really not up to speed with all the festool gear...The WCR 1000? is new to me but I can see how that could be a great help.
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Stephen I have both the 26 and 36. We had a recall on the Mini/Midi in Canada a few years due to lack of a CSA approval sticker and Festool replaced it with a CT26. If the vac is going to be shop based I would suggest the CTL36, basically same vac bigger capacity, the bags are just a little more expensive. I have had mine setup with the boomarm and WCR1000. Both make life easier. The new ETS EC sanders IMHO are a cross between the old ETS and RO's. Lots of power, I use the ETS EC 150/5 with the blue pad. Even with the larger orbit no swirls. I still really like my old ETS 150/3 for flat sanding but the instant stop has me using the new one more and more. The RO150 has its place especially in aggressive mode and is another much used tool.
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Stephen I have both the 26 and 36. We had a recall on the Mini/Midi in Canada a few years due to lack of a CSA approval sticker and Festool replaced it with a CT26. If the vac is going to be shop based I would suggest the CTL36, basically same vac bigger capacity, the bags are just a little more expensive. I have had mine setup with the boomarm and WCR1000. Both make life easier. The new ETS EC sanders IMHO are a cross between the old ETS and RO's. Lots of power, I use the ETS EC 150/5 with the blue pad. Even with the larger orbit no swirls. I still really like my old ETS 150/3 for flat sanding but the instant stop has me using the new one more and more. The RO150 has its place especially in aggressive mode and is another much used tool.
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I currently have a CT Midi and have been wanting to add a larger capacity shop vac. I plan to use it with router, domino xl and sanders , freeing up the midi for use on bobbin sander mitre saw etc. mitre saw currently has no extraction so this will be an?improvement (?although I have read that the bigger vac works better for mitre saws.)
I'm looking at the CTL 26 and just wanted to hear any feedback on it. is moving up to the CTL 36 a good or bad idea?
i've had the rotex on my shopping list for some time now as I found my?ETS 150/3 lacked aggression when needed?
recent posts have also hiighighted the ETS EC 150 and wanted to know how much of a difference I would?notice compared to the ETS 150 ....I guess buying the EC version will?partly make the ETS redundant in my one man shop, but if there is significant improvement in terms of comfort in use, less fatigue etc then I might just pick it up.
regards Stephen
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David,
That is a very robust set up. ?The little wire pushes the gate? ?
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Joel,
Unless you want to tweak some of the specific parameters of the Greenbox 12, you don’t need to use a computer to get it working well - it runs right out of the box with the same functionality as the original smaller Greenbox.
If you want (as an example) for the dust collector to continue to run for 10 seconds after you shut off a specific machine, you’ll need a PC connected to the Greenbox 12 to make those kind of changes. ??
I successfully manage my Greenbox 12 with the Ecogate application running on my MacBook Pro under Windows XP under Parallels (which I have for other applications). ? But in order to get that configuration working, I had to buy a USB to to serial cable and download and install drivers for same under Windows - which is not something I’d recommend you try unless you are proficient in the arcane science of Window’s drivers, DLL’s etc (none of which we have to deal with on the Mac). ? To use the “PC you borrow from your neighbor” you’d have to configure it with the same USB-serial cable drivers, so I think the Ecogate tech guy is blowing smoke up your behind. ? ?Or, if you want something less challenging than trying to get oddball drivers working under Windows, you could wonder down this path: ???
You could also, since you’re buddies with Scott Slater, clone his PLC implementation of the Greenbox functionality.
David Best
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I've had the CT22E (5.7 gallon capacity, 134 CFM) for about 12 years in a one man shop. I use it for handheld router DC, Sanders and cleaning the floors. I guess this is almost a 26 in terms of capacity. Works fine for my use. Have to empty it a few times a year.
On the sander, I have the Rotex (old version) and the ETS EC 150. The Rotex in aggressive mode is going to remove more material than the ETS EC?IME. I've never used an ETS150 so don't know how much of a difference you are going to see by moving to the EC - definitely around 40% lighter but don't know how much that is worth?to you?
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I 2nd the "non satisfaction" with tool rescepticle. I wish they had a locking connection.
Marlowe, Can you post a pic or describe how you improved it?
Imran
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I've had a CT26 for years and like it.? I have an Oneida cyclone to ?catch the big stuff, so that my bags last longer. ? I am not a fan of the tool receptacle. ? Doesn't work consistently with festool cords so I have a work around tri plug. Hope that they have improved that, but otherwise a great vacuum.? Marlowe McGraw?
On Feb 8, 2017 1:31 PM, " imranindiana@... [felder-woodworking]" < felder-woodworking@...> wrote:
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I got CT26 to get to the large rear wheel. Next to larger models have no more CFM. I only use it for sanding so did not need larger capacity. I use my cyclone DC to sweep so I do not fill up the CT26 filter bag.
Hope this is helpful.
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Stephen I have both the 26 and 36. We had a recall on the Mini/Midi in Canada a few years due to lack of a CSA approval sticker and Festool replaced it with a CT26. If the vac is going to be shop based I would suggest the CTL36, basically same vac bigger capacity, the bags are just a little more expensive. I have had mine setup with the boomarm and WCR1000. Both make life easier. The new ETS EC sanders IMHO are a cross between the old ETS and RO's. Lots of power, I use the ETS EC 150/5 with the blue pad. Even with the larger orbit no swirls. I still really like my old ETS 150/3 for flat sanding but the instant stop has me using the new one more and more. The RO150 has its place especially in aggressive mode and is another much used tool.
On Wed, Feb 8, 2017 at 2:15 PM, S L ayesurely@... [felder-woodworking] <felder-woodworking@...> wrote:
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I currently have a CT Midi and have been wanting to add a larger capacity shop vac. I plan to use it with router, domino xl and sanders , freeing up the midi for use on bobbin sander mitre saw etc. mitre saw currently has no extraction so this will be an?improvement (?although I have read that the bigger vac works better for mitre saws.)
I'm looking at the CTL 26 and just wanted to hear any feedback on it. is moving up to the CTL 36 a good or bad idea?
i've had the rotex on my shopping list for some time now as I found my?ETS 150/3 lacked aggression when needed?
recent posts have also hiighighted the ETS EC 150 and wanted to know how much of a difference I would?notice compared to the ETS 150 ....I guess buying the EC version will?partly make the ETS redundant in my one man shop, but if there is significant improvement in terms of comfort in use, less fatigue etc then I might just pick it up.
regards Stephen
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I got CT26 to get to the large rear wheel. Next to larger models have no more CFM. I only use it for sanding so did not need larger capacity. I use my cyclone DC to sweep so I do not fill up the CT26 filter bag.
Hope this is helpful.
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Festool shop vac and sanders
I currently have a CT Midi and have been wanting to add a larger capacity shop vac. I plan to use it with router, domino xl and sanders , freeing up the midi for use on bobbin sander mitre saw etc. mitre saw currently has no extraction so this will be an?improvement (?although I have read that the bigger vac works better for mitre saws.)
I'm looking at the CTL 26 and just wanted to hear any feedback on it. is moving up to the CTL 36 a good or bad idea?
i've had the rotex on my shopping list for some time now as I found my?ETS 150/3 lacked aggression when needed?
recent posts have also hiighighted the ETS EC 150 and wanted to know how much of a difference I would?notice compared to the ETS 150 ....I guess buying the EC version will?partly make the ETS redundant in my one man shop, but if there is significant improvement in terms of comfort in use, less fatigue etc then I might just pick it up.
regards Stephen
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Yah I know David it would be pretty boring if there was only one choice, but I couldn't resist. By the way I won the bet with myself on who would be the first to comeback. All hail the Unicorn. LOL Have a great day.
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John,?
And Grizzly dominates the woodworking equipment industry - so what.? Doesn’t mean their products are high quality.? I prefer Mac for my personal use as it lets me focus on being creative instead of being tech dweeb. ? Plus I embrace diversity. ??
Cntl-Alt-Del.
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David Best
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You Mac guys have to release no matter what you think of Microsoft the world runs on Windows for better or worse. If Gates hadn't bailed out Apple years ago it probably would just be a foot note in the history books. LOL.?
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Well, I am also a Mac person.? I see that the new Ecogate Greenbox 12 came with a more lengthy manual and a cable to connect to a Windows computer so obviously that means the new unit has more features than the old Greenbox, but also that means I need a PC to set it up and the setup is not as simple.
I called Ecogate tech support and explained I do not have a PC and Windows and do not want to buy one to be able to use this new device.? I just want simple, like with the old Greenbox.? What was suggested is that I do the connections of the blast gates to the wires and to the Greenbox and borrow a PC one time from someone to connect, then call him, and he can remote in to do all of the setup for me, which would take him 10-15 min.
I will see how that goes.? I am not looking to make any changes after initial setup. I just want it so I turn on a machine, and that blast gate opens and the others close and the dust collector then turns on, and then shuts off shortly after I turn my machine off, and if I have 2 machines running at the same time, blast gates for whatever is running are open.? Perhaps the only thing I should consider now that I have a more powerful collector than my previous Oneida and several machines that run on 4 inch gates, is if I need more open than a 4 inch gate to have some minimum airflow.
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John,?
And Grizzly dominates the woodworking equipment industry - so what. ?Doesn’t mean their products are high quality. ?I prefer Mac for my personal use as it lets me focus on being creative instead of being tech dweeb. ? Plus I embrace diversity. ??
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You Mac guys have to release no matter what you think of Microsoft the world runs on Windows for better or worse. If Gates hadn't bailed out Apple years ago it probably would just be a foot note in the history books. LOL.?
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Well, I am also a Mac person. ?I see that the new Ecogate Greenbox 12 came with a more lengthy manual and a cable to connect to a Windows computer so obviously that means the new unit has more features than the old Greenbox, but also that means I need a PC to set it up and the setup is not as simple.
I called Ecogate tech support and explained I do not have a PC and Windows and do not want to buy one to be able to use this new device. ?I just want simple, like with the old Greenbox. ?What was suggested is that I do the connections of the blast gates to the wires and to the Greenbox and borrow a PC one time from someone to connect, then call him, and he can remote in to do all of the setup for me, which would take him 10-15 min.
I will see how that goes. ?I am not looking to make any changes after initial setup. I just want it so I turn on a machine, and that blast gate opens and the others close and the dust collector then turns on, and then shuts off shortly after I turn my machine off, and if I have 2 machines running at the same time, blast gates for whatever is running are open. ?Perhaps the only thing I should consider now that I have a more powerful collector than my previous Oneida and several machines that run on 4 inch gates, is if I need more open than a 4 inch gate to have some minimum airflow.
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Joel,
Unless you want to tweak some of the specific parameters of the Greenbox 12, you don’t need to use a computer to get it working well - it runs right out of the box with the same functionality as the original smaller Greenbox.
If you want (as an example) for the dust collector to continue to run for 10 seconds after you shut off a specific machine, you’ll need a PC connected to the Greenbox 12 to make those kind of changes. ??
I successfully manage my Greenbox 12 with the Ecogate application running on my MacBook Pro under Windows XP under Parallels (which I have for other applications). ? But in order to get that configuration working, I had to buy a USB to to serial cable and download and install drivers for same under Windows - which is not something I’d recommend you try unless you are proficient in the arcane science of Window’s drivers, DLL’s etc (none of which we have to deal with on the Mac). ? To use the “PC you borrow from your neighbor” you’d have to configure it with the same USB-serial cable drivers, so I think the Ecogate tech guy is blowing smoke up your behind. ? ?Or, if you want something less challenging than trying to get oddball drivers working under Windows, you could wonder down this path: ???
You could also, since you’re buddies with Scott Slater, clone his PLC implementation of the Greenbox functionality.
David Best
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Well, I am also a Mac person. ?I see that the new Ecogate Greenbox 12 came with a more lengthy manual and a cable to connect to a Windows computer so obviously that means the new unit has more features than the old Greenbox, but also that means I need a PC to set it up and the setup is not as simple.
I called Ecogate tech support and explained I do not have a PC and Windows and do not want to buy one to be able to use this new device. ?I just want simple, like with the old Greenbox. ?What was suggested is that I do the connections of the blast gates to the wires and to the Greenbox and borrow a PC one time from someone to connect, then call him, and he can remote in to do all of the setup for me, which would take him 10-15 min.
I will see how that goes. ?I am not looking to make any changes after initial setup. I just want it so I turn on a machine, and that blast gate opens and the others close and the dust collector then turns on, and then shuts off shortly after I turn my machine off, and if I have 2 machines running at the same time, blast gates for whatever is running are open. ?Perhaps the only thing I should consider now that I have a more powerful collector than my previous Oneida and several machines that run on 4 inch gates, is if I need more open than a 4 inch gate to have some minimum airflow.
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Re: Morso guillotine question
You Mac guys have to release no matter what you think of Microsoft the world runs on Windows for better or worse. If Gates hadn't bailed out Apple years ago it probably would just be a foot note in the history books. LOL.?
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-------- Original message -------- From: "joelgelman@... [felder-woodworking]" <felder-woodworking@...> Date: 2017-02-08 1:18 PM (GMT-05:00) To: felder-woodworking@... Subject: Re: [felder-woodworking] Morso guillotine question
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Well, I am also a Mac person. ?I see that the new Ecogate Greenbox 12 came with a more lengthy manual and a cable to connect to a Windows computer so obviously that means the new unit has more features than the old Greenbox, but also that means I need a PC to set it up and the setup is not as simple.
I called Ecogate tech support and explained I do not have a PC and Windows and do not want to buy one to be able to use this new device. ?I just want simple, like with the old Greenbox. ?What was suggested is that I do the connections of the blast gates to the wires and to the Greenbox and borrow a PC one time from someone to connect, then call him, and he can remote in to do all of the setup for me, which would take him 10-15 min.
I will see how that goes. ?I am not looking to make any changes after initial setup. I just want it so I turn on a machine, and that blast gate opens and the others close and the dust collector then turns on, and then shuts off shortly after I turn my machine off, and if I have 2 machines running at the same time, blast gates for whatever is running are open. ?Perhaps the only thing I should consider now that I have a more powerful collector than my previous Oneida and several machines that run on 4 inch gates, is if I need more open than a 4 inch gate to have some minimum airflow.
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