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Re: Shaper cutters
Scott Slater
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Re: Shaper cutters
Philip Tamarkin
...Ballew Saw and Tool, 1-800 CUT-RITE, has been a great source for tooling
and consumables - all kinds of shaper cutters, Mirka sandpaper, some machinery
- good prices, super service.? No affiliation with them, but they've
been great to me over the years...
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Re: Blade Noise
Geoff Shepherd
Rod,
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Sorry I didn't have a chance to reply until tonight. Feel free to give me a call when you get in to Bellevue. I'm in Everett, about 30 minutes north of Bellevue, or 15 minutes north of Lynnwood. (425) 259-2287 or (425) 876-6525 ..Geoff mailto:Geoff@... ----- Original Message -----
From: Rod Barton <r_barton@...> To: <felder-woodworking@...> Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2000 8:16 PM Subject: [felder-woodworking] Re: Blade Noise Geoff, |
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Re: POLL: shaper cutters
Geoff Shepherd
A quick reminder to the group: to place your vote in the shaper cutter poll,
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please visit the following web site: There is no need to respond to this message. Thanks! -- Geoff Shepherd ----- Original Message -----
From: <taylor911@...> To: <felder-woodworking@...> Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2000 8:31 PM Subject: [felder-woodworking] POLL: shaper cutters What brand of shaper cutters do you prefer to use on your Felder? Have youfound any particular good values among the various brands available? What would be your top 3 choices for the non-professional hobbiest (like myself).
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Re: Shaper cutters
Thanks for the tip on the Freud groovers, Art. I have been perusing a
Freud catalog and have had my eye on those groovers, especially the 1/4 & 3/8" x 6" OD or the 8" OD. I have checked "Abbey Tool" prices, which seemed pretty good, but I'll also check "The Leading Edge". I thought a groover cutter would be nice to have when making slip or "bridle" joints. I not sure whether the 8" OD is necessary though. Take care, John Taylor "art pentz" <ahpn-@...> wrote: original article: =240 With respect to the current poll on cutter brands I thought I wouldhave found are from "The Leading Edge" (tm ). They also carry Freeborn and Amana cutters. Mostly 1 1/4" bore. |
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Shaper cutters
Art Pentz
With respect to the current poll on cutter brands I thought I would
mention that the best prices w/ delivery on Freud shaper cutters I have found are from "The Leading Edge" ( ). They also carry Freeborn and Amana cutters. Mostly 1 1/4" bore. Great prices on Freud groovers. No afilliation etc. etc. Art Pentz ahpnc@... |
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Re: POLL: shaper cutters
Charlie Norton
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From: taylor911@... <taylor911@...> To: felder-woodworking@... <felder-woodworking@...> Date: Thursday, March 23, 2000 8:31 PM Subject: [felder-woodworking] POLL: shaper cutters What brand of shaper cutters do you prefer to use on your Felder? Have youfound any particular good values among the various brands available? What would be your top 3 choices for the non-professional hobbiest (like myself). felder-woodworking-unsubscribe@...
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POLL: shaper cutters
What brand of shaper cutters do you prefer to use on your Felder? Have you found any particular good values among the various brands available? What would be your top 3 choices for the non-professional hobbiest (like myself).
---- Please select one or more of the following: o Felder, (lietz) o Amana o Freud o Freeborn o Jasada, (Millenium) o others ??? by going to the following Web form: Thank you! |
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Re: Blade Noise
Geoff,
I believe you said you live north of Seattle but I'm not sure. Tried to look your location up under the member info but must not be doing it correctly. Anyway, I have to be in Bellevue this coming Sat. afternoon. Thought that if you are somewhere around the Lynnwood area I could look you up Sat. morning and bring some blades along to test on your machine if you would like. Re: the comment from John R. about getting your just dessert with the noise issue. We just need to wait for a few more months to see what kind of excuses he is going to have about the blood shot eyes and lack of sleep. I'll bet that even your saw would sound quiet to him then. Congratulations J.R.!!! May the good Lord provide you and your wife with a very happy and healthy baby. Rod B. |
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Re: blades talk
Scott Slater
The kerf is 1/16 of an inch - I checked it with a caliper, it it exactly
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1/16. Cuts great! -----Original Message-----
From: Joel Cohen [mailto:Jcohen@...] Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2000 6:47 AM To: 'felder-woodworking@...' Subject: [felder-woodworking] Re: blades talk Scott, How wide is the kerf on that Lennoz carbide bandsaw blade??? Thanks, Joel -----Original Message----- From: Scott Slater [SMTP:scott@...] Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2000 12:50 AM To: felder-woodworking@... Subject: [felder-woodworking] blades talk With all this talk about blades on the table saw, and me not even having a Felder table saw to use (until May), I feel left out. But, today I bought a Lenox Tri Master Carbide blade for my bandsaw (not a Felder but an Agazzani), it is incredible. I cannot believe how well it cuts, much faster feed rate, much smoother finish. They are not cheap (200$) but worth every penny. It might even make the Laguna, I mean Felder, work well... Scott Slater scott@... www.studiouw.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To Post a message, send it to: felder-woodworking@... To Unsubscribe, send a blank message to: felder-woodworking-unsubscribe@... ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -- Easily schedule meetings and events using the group calendar! -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To Post a message, send it to: felder-woodworking@... To Unsubscribe, send a blank message to: felder-woodworking-unsubscribe@... ------------------------------------------------------------------------ eGroups.com home: - Simplifying group communications |
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Re: blade noise, motor speed,hz and amps
John Renzetti
Joe, for cutting panels with the 100mm scoring blade I'm limited to a ten
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inch blade. I switch regularly between the rebored Forrests which are 10inch and the 300 and 315 blades I have from Felder. I really haven't noticed the difference in noise level they are pretty quiet. While I'm posting one thing I should have added to the motor specs I found was that they are 4kw and 3 phase. Talk to you later, John Renzetti ----- Original Message -----
From: Joe Dusel <joedusel@...> To: <felder-woodworking@...> Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2000 1:02 PM Subject: [felder-woodworking] Re: blade noise, motor speed,hz and amps John,felder-woodworking-unsubscribe@...
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Re: blade noise, motor speed,hz and amps
Joe Dusel
John,
Are you running a 10" or 12" blade on your machine? I would imagine that the dB levels specified by Felder for noise levels are measured with the 10" (250 mm?)blades. Joe "john renzetti" <j.renzett-@...> wrote: original article: =228 I checked the data info on the machine and not the motor this morning.50hz it says 15a and 2760rpm. There are different pulleys and belts for 60at 60hz.at 60hz is 3360 vs 2780 at 50hz. The newer AF22LN has a 3kw motor and aforklift to get his 3000lb BF5 off the truck. He just picked it up himself.the jointer planer. I could see where you may not need the transporter if |
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Re: Table saw blade noise
Mark Rupersburg
Geoff;
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Wow, 98dB is loud -- maybe loud enough to get a visit from OSHA or the FAA. I think a jet at full-throttle is just a bit over 100 dB! Does the value change depending upon the position of the pickup? With a change in blades? Without a blade? When insulating, you may have to use a heavy material (like lead sheeting) in addition to typical fiberglass batting. Both dampen vibrations, but at different frequencies. Another technique used in sound-proofing buildings is to use 2 layers of drywall separated by strips of metal. If the numbers are correct, I think you've got a heck of a noise problem that's going to limit your hours of work. Good luck, Mark Shepherd wrote: Thick caffeinated air aside (hmm), I appreciate all your interesting and |
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Re: Table saw blade noise
Charlie Norton
Wow...98dB is loud. I do not have a sound meter, but I can't imagine that
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the saw on my machine is 18 dB louder than the planer. If the sound meter computes dBA, perhaps the higher pitch of the air whoosh noise registers a higher sound value for the same noise power out. Did you average several readings? I wonder if the saw measurement was made at a particularly loud location. -----Original Message-----
From: Geoff Shepherd <geoff@...> To: felder-woodworking@... <felder-woodworking@...> Date: Thursday, March 23, 2000 1:29 AM Subject: [felder-woodworking] Re: Table saw blade noise Thick caffeinated air aside (hmm), I appreciate all your interesting andfriend at work. Here are the results of measuring some of my shop equipment withfelder-woodworking-unsubscribe@...
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Re: blade noise, motor speed,hz and amps
Philip Tamarkin
John!? Hate to ruin a good tale, but I did pull every accessory off
the BF-5 before lifting it off the truck solo, so it probably wasn't any
more than a ton - hardly worth mentioning!? Besides, this was last
December, and I was much younger then!
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John Renzetti wrote: I checked the data info on the machine and not the motor this morning. |
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Re: blades talk
Joel Cohen
Scott,
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How wide is the kerf on that Lennoz carbide bandsaw blade??? Thanks, Joel -----Original Message-----
From: Scott Slater [SMTP:scott@...] Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2000 12:50 AM To: felder-woodworking@... Subject: [felder-woodworking] blades talk With all this talk about blades on the table saw, and me not even having a Felder table saw to use (until May), I feel left out. But, today I bought a Lenox Tri Master Carbide blade for my bandsaw (not a Felder but an Agazzani), it is incredible. I cannot believe how well it cuts, much faster feed rate, much smoother finish. They are not cheap (200$) but worth every penny. It might even make the Laguna, I mean Felder, work well... Scott Slater scott@... www.studiouw.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To Post a message, send it to: felder-woodworking@... To Unsubscribe, send a blank message to: felder-woodworking-unsubscribe@... ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -- Easily schedule meetings and events using the group calendar! -- |
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Re: blade noise, motor speed,hz and amps
Mark Rupersburg
?Geoff, You're mean one, Mr. Grinch! Mark ? |
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blade noise, motor speed,hz and amps
John Renzetti
I checked the data info on the machine and not the motor this morning.
The motor on my KF7F is rated at 14.5a at 240v 60hz and 3400rpm at 50hz it says 15a and 2760rpm. There are different pulleys and belts for 60 and 50hz that get the arbor speed up to around 4000-4600 rpm, not sure of the figure. I'm wondering if the 15amp figure is wrong and should be 14a, since on the AD7-41 and the AF22 the amperage draw is higher at 60hz. I know that on the regular AF22 Dust collector, motor noise became a problem with the higher rpm at 60hz vs 50hz. On my AF22 the rotation at 60hz is 3360 vs 2780 at 50hz. The newer AF22LN has a 3kw motor and a smaller diameter fan resulting in much lower noise. I haven't noticed any noise problem on my KF7. Turn in on, and it just gives that nice tone, a lot different from when I turn on the unisaw. As far as not needing the transporter unit with the mortiser, what Phil Tamarkin failed to mention was that he also didn't need a forklift to get his 3000lb BF5 off the truck. He just picked it up himself. (Only kidding Phil) The transporter does make things much easier with it attached to the jointer planer. I could see where you may not need the transporter if the mortiser was attached to the K7 or the KF7 machines. Here it may not get in the way, especially if the joy stick was taken off. Geoff's machine is loud simply because it's his punishment for calling me on the phone and telling me to listen to the lack of noise coming from his dust collector. Take care, John Renzetti Chadds Ford, PA |
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Re: Table saw blade noise
Tom Gee
I've been reading this thread and have a few thoughts:
Motor speed: The motors' information plates on my KF-7X lists speeds for both 50Hz and 60Hz operation. It also lists two amperage figures. I presume that the larger of these is the maximum (locked rotor?) amperage and the other is the no load amperage. If I weren't 2500 miles from my shop, I'd include the all of these numbers here. However, I'm sure that they're listed on all of the newer machines. Maybe someone who has a machine close at hand could look and post the numbers. Drive pulleys: I seem to remember that the parts catalog lists different pulleys for 50Hz and 60Hz operation. In addition to being away from my shop, I'm also away from my parts catalog. I think that I'll have to start worrying Wolfgang again to see if I can get him to attempt to convince Felder to provide the parts catalog and owner's manual on CD-ROM in searchable PDF form... Just what the poor man needs, a computer geek as a customer. :-) Motor speeds: Although I can't quit remember the RPM figures on my Felder, I do remember that many motors of the type found on woodworking machines operate at 3450 RPM. I seem to remember that that's a 'magic' number in motor design, though I've completely forgotten why. TGee |
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Re: Table saw blade noise
Geoff Shepherd
Thick caffeinated air aside (hmm), I appreciate all your interesting and
varied responses once again. I do wear hearing and eye protection as a matter of habit. However, I still prefer quieter running tools for the sake of my own sanity and my good relations with my close neighbors. Once I finish insulating the shop, I won't feel quite as self-conscious about late-evening noise making. This evening, I managed to borrow a sound-level meter from a musician friend at work. Here are the results of measuring some of my shop equipment with the meter mounted on a tripod at operator position/ear height (or 1m as appropriate): Phasemaster MA-1, 60dB (manual states <70dB). Oil-lubed 26 gallon air compressor filling, 81dB. AF-22LN, 77dB (manual for original AF-22 states 82.5dB). Fein Turbo II vac, 68dB. BF6-31: Jointer, 77dB (manual states 78.8dB). Planer, 80dB (manual states 81.8dB). Saw, 98dB (manual states 83.7dB). Except for the saw, everything is reasonably close to what I expected. By the manual's numbers and my experience with other cabinet saws, I would expect the saw to sound not too much louder than the jointer or planer. Maybe it's the blades, or some other factor. ...Geoff |
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