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Re: Okay, I'm impressed

Erik Friis
 

Hi Joe,

First of all, congratulations on your new Felder -- I didn't get a chance to tell you
on Badger Pond. Re support on Saturdays and Sundays, just call JH at home...collect
;-)
Hi JH. Coming back for ribs soon?

Regards, Erik


Re: BF6-31

Wolfgang Geiger
 

Mark,

The machine listed for $5,500.00 on our webside is a BU8FK41 (16"
combination machine with 1 motor only) build in 1983.

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To: <felder-woodworking@...>
Sent: Monday, March 20, 2000 11:53 AM
Subject: [felder-woodworking] BF6-31




Wolfgang;

Please send the information on the used BF6-31 listed on your updated
website to Mac
Campshire. I belive the price is $5,500.

Regards,

Mark Rupersburg


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BF6-31

Mark Rupersburg
 

Wolfgang;

Please send the information on the used BF6-31 listed on your updated website to Mac
Campshire. I belive the price is $5,500.

Regards,

Mark Rupersburg


Okay, I'm impressed

Joe Dusel
 

I am excitedly awaiting the arrival of my KF700S Pro and very impressed
by the fact that you can actually get support from Felder reps on a
Sunday. Very good service. This is especially important to me since I
usually only get to use my machines on the weekends, so this is when I
need support the most. It would also be nice to be able to get support
by phone on Saturdays as well.

Joe


Re: Outfeed roller

dolsid
 

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I have the same problem on my BF 7-41 and I believe Paul LaPierre has also had the same thing happen.? My machine has been set by both John and Chrisof and both times after milling a few boards I have to start to pull them out.? I will try to super clean? the bed and use Felder's super Gleit lubricant but I think we may have to acquire?the skills to adjust the planer with facility.
???? In reference to the comparison of the Robland and Felder machines, the only thing I found in the literature before I bought mine was an article I had seen in American Wood Worker in 1992 (Issue #29 pp 35) when I first started thinking about setting up a shop-I am an amateur so I depend on professional evaluation for many of my decisions.?The article described Felders as rugged heavy-duty machines made with uncompromising attention to detail?which I?think is true?but more important to me is the pride the company has in their product and the? unusual support they give their customers.
???? I had looked at the Robland and the Laguna salesman was bitterly disappointed when I bought the Felder even though I bought a bandsaw from them at the?same time. His conduct was so bad that?I doubt if I will ever do any more business with them.????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? Original Message -----

Sent: Friday, March 17, 2000 10:23 PM
Subject: [felder-woodworking] Outfeed roller

I have had a little problem with the planer in that when thickness planing a 6-7 inch wide board it runs smoothly until the last 4-5 inches and then hesitates or stops until I assist it by pulling it out. I spoke to John Hartshorne today and he recommended cleaning the table very well which I did and then to try lowering the outfeed roller a little at a time.? I did this to the point where the shaft of the roller is almost touching the housing so I"m not sure I can lower it much more. It has helped but not solved the problem. I am still in the process of adjusting. Has anyone else had a similar problem and a solution. I will call John back next week but alas the weekend is here.

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Re: Out Feed Table Movement

John Hartshorne
 

Richard,
Great your still on line. Ok I'm not sure what is causing this creep.
But I had to ask the most basic questions. Sorry, belive me I do trust
what you are telling me.
I was talking to Paul La Pierre He said that he had loosened the two
bolts on the two piviot clamps that connect the paralell bars near the
cutterhead. He stated that the over all movement was better.(and
easier) I invite you to try this. Note be sure that you only loosen the
free pivot clamps as the other ones are fixed to the shafts with a set
screw. What this might do is allow the table to settle on its own. I
have another idea but I'm not sure how it will work but I wll make it a
number one issue for tomorrow.
I would like to give you a call to see how your doing, but I don't want
to get you during your dinner.
If you want me to call just let me know.
JH






richard mccomas <rmccoma-@...> wrote:
original article:
=199
Yes, I need another handle now, if I don't get one I will have to
resort to vice
grips and I don't really want to use those.

Yes, I am backing off the black adjusting knob.

Yes, If I push down on the far end of the outfeed the end near the
cutter head will
rise, and I don't have to push very hard. Rich



John Hartshorne wrote:

Richard,
I will check another machine tomorrow and get back to you ASAP. Do
you
need another handle now? Are you relasing the tension off the black
adjustment knob when you finishinh adjusting and locking the table?
What happens when you press down on the outfeed edge of the out feed
table, does it cause the edge closest to the cutterhead to rise?
JH

"richard mccomas" <rmccoma-@...> wrote:
original article:
tart
=193
Group, Just wandering how many owners of Felder's jointer/planer
machines are having the same problem that I am having. I have a
AD-41,
the 16" combo. I can't keep the out feed table in adjustment. It
appear the table has some kind of tension on it that forces the
table
to slowly raise over a period of a day or two until the table is
higher
than the knives. I have always made sure that the locking lever
is
securely tightened and the adjusting nut is back off. In fact
today
after adjusting it again I applied enough force to brake the
plastic
off. Rich

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Re: Out Feed Table Movement

Richard McComas
 

Yes, I need another handle now, if I don't get one I will have to resort to vice
grips and I don't really want to use those.

Yes, I am backing off the black adjusting knob.

Yes, If I push down on the far end of the outfeed the end near the cutter head will
rise, and I don't have to push very hard. Rich



John Hartshorne wrote:

Richard,
I will check another machine tomorrow and get back to you ASAP. Do you
need another handle now? Are you relasing the tension off the black
adjustment knob when you finishinh adjusting and locking the table?
What happens when you press down on the outfeed edge of the out feed
table, does it cause the edge closest to the cutterhead to rise?
JH

"richard mccomas" <rmccoma-@...> wrote:
original article:
=193
Group, Just wandering how many owners of Felder's jointer/planer
machines are having the same problem that I am having. I have a
AD-41,
the 16" combo. I can't keep the out feed table in adjustment. It
appear the table has some kind of tension on it that forces the table
to slowly raise over a period of a day or two until the table is
higher
than the knives. I have always made sure that the locking lever is
securely tightened and the adjusting nut is back off. In fact today
after adjusting it again I applied enough force to brake the plastic
off. Rich

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Re: Planer adjustment theory

John Hartshorne
 

Dear Paul,
This what happens when I try to do two things at once. Are you a little
clearer on the planer set up after all of this discusion?
JH




"paul schumacher" <pdsch-@...> wrote:
original article:
=194

This should clear up and confusion.

How true, how true.

Paul


Writing replys when your in a hurry!

John Hartshorne
 

Group,

I find that if I'm in a hurry when I post replies I seem to make
grammatical errors. I am not a touch typist, more of a slam typist. So
now that that is cleared up, if your not clear on something I post let
me know.
Thanks,
JH


Re: Out Feed Table Movement

John Hartshorne
 

Richard,
I will check another machine tomorrow and get back to you ASAP. Do you
need another handle now? Are you relasing the tension off the black
adjustment knob when you finishinh adjusting and locking the table?
What happens when you press down on the outfeed edge of the out feed
table, does it cause the edge closest to the cutterhead to rise?
JH



"richard mccomas" <rmccoma-@...> wrote:
original article:
=193
Group, Just wandering how many owners of Felder's jointer/planer
machines are having the same problem that I am having. I have a
AD-41,
the 16" combo. I can't keep the out feed table in adjustment. It
appear the table has some kind of tension on it that forces the table
to slowly raise over a period of a day or two until the table is
higher
than the knives. I have always made sure that the locking lever is
securely tightened and the adjusting nut is back off. In fact today
after adjusting it again I applied enough force to brake the plastic
off. Rich


Welcome, new members!

Geoff Shepherd
 

Wow - we're up to 64 members already! This is shaping up to be an invaluable
resource for all of us.

I just wanted to post a note welcoming all the new members and point out a
few items of interest.

There is a group web site at


If you haven't been there already, you will probably be prompted for an
eGroups user name and password. If you don't have one set up already, it
lets you do that and if very easy to do. Once you get to the web site you
can go to the "Group Information" page and modify your subscription options
if you like. For example, you can have the forum messages sent to your
e-mail box, or you may set it for reading on the web page only.

You can read/search previous messages (for example "X31 vs. Felder"), as
well as post new messages to the group or to individual members. You may
also access the shared calendar of events, the survey room, and the document
vault. The vault is where we can share photographs, articles, web links, and
diagrams. There is lots of stuff there already, so go check out the vault if
you haven't yet. It's also easy to upload your own contributions to the
vault. If you have a personal web site, feel free to post your link in the
Link folder.


Scott requested that we fill out at least our geographical location
information in our member profiles. You can do this by going to the
"Members" directory listing on the web site and clicking on your own name:


Someday, it might be interesting to create a graphical map showing push-pins
where everyone is located. Hmm....

If you have any questions or need help, send of an e-mail to one of the
forum "managers" (marked with a red "M") in the member directory. This
includes John Renzetti, Scott Slater, and myself.

Have a good week, everyone...
--
Geoff Shepherd
mailto:Geoff@...


Re: Planer adjustment theory

 

This should clear up and confusion.

How true, how true.

Paul


Out Feed Table Movement

Richard McComas
 

Group, Just wandering how many owners of Felder's jointer/planer
machines are having the same problem that I am having. I have a AD-41,
the 16" combo. I can't keep the out feed table in adjustment. It
appear the table has some kind of tension on it that forces the table
to slowly raise over a period of a day or two until the table is higher
than the knives. I have always made sure that the locking lever is
securely tightened and the adjusting nut is back off. In fact today
after adjusting it again I applied enough force to brake the plastic
off. Rich


Re: question re dust collector

Scott Slater
 

I will check on that, it only happens when it is cold out. It is quite warm
here today (80 degrees or so), so I do not think it will be an issue. I will
try it tonight when it cools off. Thanks

Scott

-----Original Message-----
From: John Hartshorne [mailto:john@...]
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2000 10:25 AM
To: felder-woodworking@...
Subject: [felder-woodworking] Re: question re dust collector


Scott,
Thanks for the quick come back.
I suspect that we are dealing with a problem that stems from the
mechanical starter. On the AF22 you have a start and stop button but
this system is moving a lever which snaps a set of three contacts into
place quickly. It stay in place until it is released by the stop switch
or it is tripped by the current overload.
My feeling is we have some sort of mechanical interference or a faulty
contact point. Do you notice that if you push harder on the botton it
helps?

At any rate I will organize a new switch for you to replace the old one.
Send me an E-mail letting me kno what time is best and what number you
would like me to use.
john@...






"scott slater" <scot-@...> wrote:
original article:
=186
Hi,

I have an AF22 LN, 3 phase. When it is cold (in Southern CA, which
means about 55 degrees), sometimes I will hit the start button on the
DC, it will hum, and not start. I will then hit stop, then start, it
will start and run as normal.

I was wondering if I have the power hooked up wrong. I have the wires
(from phase converter) T1, T2, T3 hooked up to the corresponding spots
on the plug (there are notations on the plug). I am using the European
3 phase plug. Could I have the manufactured phase T3 hooked up to the
starter on the motor? I checked the no load voltage from the coverter
T1-T3 = 260, T2-T3 = 275 (within the specs for the converter). What
line is the starter connected to on the motor T1 T2 or T3. If there is
a way to visually see this, could you let me know this.

BTW, John this is what the note on your desk is regarding.

Scott

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Planer adjustment theory

John Hartshorne
 

To the group,
Planers require that the cutterhead be be level to the planer table. So
in this case you measure from the cutterhead to the table until both
side are even.
If your are adjusting a jointer/Planer then the jointer table is
leveled to the cutterhad as well then the knives are set to the table.
I the case of most felder machines the flatness of the table is good
enough to not affect the knife to planer table relationship. ( which
should be even as well)

However, all other adjustments to the planer will require measurement
from the arc of the knives with respect to the hight of the infeed,
outfeed rollers,
Chip breaker and second preasure bar.

This should clear up and confusion.
JH


Re: question re dust collector

John Hartshorne
 

Scott,
Thanks for the quick come back.
I suspect that we are dealing with a problem that stems from the
mechanical starter. On the AF22 you have a start and stop button but
this system is moving a lever which snaps a set of three contacts into
place quickly. It stay in place until it is released by the stop switch
or it is tripped by the current overload.
My feeling is we have some sort of mechanical interference or a faulty
contact point. Do you notice that if you push harder on the botton it
helps?

At any rate I will organize a new switch for you to replace the old one.
Send me an E-mail letting me kno what time is best and what number you
would like me to use.
john@...






"scott slater" <scot-@...> wrote:
original article:
=186

Hi,

I have an AF22 LN, 3 phase. When it is cold (in Southern CA, which
means about 55 degrees), sometimes I will hit the start button on the
DC, it will hum, and not start. I will then hit stop, then start, it
will start and run as normal.

I was wondering if I have the power hooked up wrong. I have the wires
(from phase converter) T1, T2, T3 hooked up to the corresponding spots
on the plug (there are notations on the plug). I am using the European
3 phase plug. Could I have the manufactured phase T3 hooked up to the
starter on the motor? I checked the no load voltage from the coverter
T1-T3 = 260, T2-T3 = 275 (within the specs for the converter). What
line is the starter connected to on the motor T1 T2 or T3. If there is
a way to visually see this, could you let me know this.

BTW, John this is what the note on your desk is regarding.

Scott


Re: Outfeed roller

John Hartshorne
 

Dear Paul,
The planer head is used to set the flatness of the jointer tables and
the level of the planer table. All other settings for the planer are
measured from the lowest arc of the knives. The ONEWAY gauge wil come
with a large anvil which will allow you to clearly measure the arc of
the knife
JH


"paul schumacher" <pdsch-@...> wrote:
original article:
=183
Thanks to Rod, John, and John for the help. I had to work today and
tomorrow
so I haven't done anything today on the planer. I think the dial
gauge is
the way to go and since I don't own one I think the Oneway is the way
to go.
I'll order one and then try the suggestions you made regarding
checking the
table. I am still not clear as to whether you use the nadir of the
blade or
the planner drum for the calibration. Thanks, Paul


Re: Outfeed roller

Richard McComas
 

John Hartshorne was recently to my shop to set up my AD-41. The first
thing he did and told me was to set the outfeed table parallel to the
cutter head. He said the cutter head is the heart of the machine and
is the reference point for everything else. He then set the infeed
table co-planer the outfeed table then set the knifes parallel to the
outfeed table.


jim voos <jvoo-@...> wrote:
original article:
=187
Really?

Interesting, I am assuming the knifes have been set parallel to the
outfeed
table on the JOINTER originally. Isn't that the reference to which
everything else will be set? John H., what are your thoughts about
this?
Should the cutterbody be parallel to the outfeed of the JOINTER as
well, and
then set the knifes parallel, followed by the Planer set ups?

jim

-----Original Message-----
From: Rod Barton [mailto:r_barton@...]
Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2000 10:42 PM
To: felder-woodworking@...
Subject: [felder-woodworking] Re: Outfeed roller


Paul,

May I suggest you use the cutterhead body and not the knives. The
reasoning behind this is that unless the knives are set exactly
parallel to the cuttterhead you run the risk of being further out of
tolerance than if you use the cutterhead body as your point of
reference.

Hope this helps.
Rod


"paul schumacher" <pdsch-@...> wrote:
original article:
rt
=183
Thanks to Rod, John, and John for the help. I had to work today and
tomorrow
so I haven't done anything today on the planer. I think the dial
gauge is
the way to go and since I don't own one I think the Oneway is the
way
to go.
I'll order one and then try the suggestions you made regarding
checking the
table. I am still not clear as to whether you use the nadir of the
blade or
the planner drum for the calibration. Thanks, Paul

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Re: Outfeed roller

Jim Voos
 

Really?

Interesting, I am assuming the knifes have been set parallel to the outfeed
table on the JOINTER originally. Isn't that the reference to which
everything else will be set? John H., what are your thoughts about this?
Should the cutterbody be parallel to the outfeed of the JOINTER as well, and
then set the knifes parallel, followed by the Planer set ups?

jim

-----Original Message-----
From: Rod Barton [mailto:r_barton@...]
Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2000 10:42 PM
To: felder-woodworking@...
Subject: [felder-woodworking] Re: Outfeed roller


Paul,

May I suggest you use the cutterhead body and not the knives. The
reasoning behind this is that unless the knives are set exactly
parallel to the cuttterhead you run the risk of being further out of
tolerance than if you use the cutterhead body as your point of
reference.

Hope this helps.
Rod


"paul schumacher" <pdsch-@...> wrote:
original article:
=183
Thanks to Rod, John, and John for the help. I had to work today and
tomorrow
so I haven't done anything today on the planer. I think the dial
gauge is
the way to go and since I don't own one I think the Oneway is the way
to go.
I'll order one and then try the suggestions you made regarding
checking the
table. I am still not clear as to whether you use the nadir of the
blade or
the planner drum for the calibration. Thanks, Paul

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question re dust collector

Scott Slater
 

Hi,

I have an AF22 LN, 3 phase. When it is cold (in Southern CA, which
means about 55 degrees), sometimes I will hit the start button on the
DC, it will hum, and not start. I will then hit stop, then start, it
will start and run as normal.

I was wondering if I have the power hooked up wrong. I have the wires
(from phase converter) T1, T2, T3 hooked up to the corresponding spots
on the plug (there are notations on the plug). I am using the European
3 phase plug. Could I have the manufactured phase T3 hooked up to the
starter on the motor? I checked the no load voltage from the coverter
T1-T3 = 260, T2-T3 = 275 (within the specs for the converter). What
line is the starter connected to on the motor T1 T2 or T3. If there is
a way to visually see this, could you let me know this.

BTW, John this is what the note on your desk is regarding.

Scott