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Re: Aigner shaper accessories on Felder Combos
Netanel,
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Sent you a PM - catalog and price list from Scott Slater.? less than 30 days old.
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PK
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Re: Aigner shaper accessories on Felder Combos
Netanel,
Not sure if these would work for you but are available at Felder eshop
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On Dec 24, 2024, at 2:58?AM, netanel.belgazal via groups.io <netanel.belgazal@...> wrote:
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is there a us distributor that sell Aigner products?
I forgot to order the Aigner bracket when I did the order from S&S and paying 80? for shipping is a bit expensive.
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In addition, I couldn’t find the pressure module guide wheel (for the bandsaw) )
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Re: Aigner shaper accessories on Felder Combos
Any Martin dealer in the US can source Aigner products for you. ?I recommend you contact FOG founder Scott Slater. ?? scott@...
Or contact Martin:
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David Best - via mobile phone?
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On Dec 23, 2024, at 11:58?PM, netanel.belgazal via groups.io <netanel.belgazal@...> wrote:
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is there a us distributor that sell Aigner products?
I forgot to order the Aigner bracket when I did the order from S&S and paying 80? for shipping is a bit expensive.
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In addition, I couldn’t find the pressure module guide wheel (for the bandsaw) )
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Re: Aigner shaper accessories on Felder Combos
is there a us distributor that sell Aigner products?
I forgot to order the Aigner bracket when I did the order from S&S and paying 80? for shipping is a bit expensive.
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In addition, I couldn’t find the pressure module guide wheel (for the bandsaw) )
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Re: Aigner shaper accessories on Felder Combos
These two links may or may not help you, but they do illustrate the mechanical system used to attach the Aigner Integral Fence to the shaper hood:
David Best
DBestWorkshop@...
https://www.flickr.com/photos/davidpbest/collections/
https://www.youtube.com/@David_Best
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On Dec 23, 2024, at 9:05?PM, Hammans Stallings via groups.io <hammans.stallings@...> wrote:
I have a 2004 Felder CF731S and I’m hearing from a Felder rep that there’s not a compatible Aigner Integral Fence that would work with my original shaper hood (pictured and linked below).?
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Mr. Kee’s earlier message gave me some hope but I have yet to see any pictures of examples where someone has “enlarged the hole” to make the Aigner fence fit.
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I’d be very appreciative if any of you can point me to a good example showing how this is done before I make a purchase decision.?
Many thanks!
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Hammans Stallings
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Re: Aigner shaper accessories on Felder Combos
I have a 2004 Felder CF731S and I’m hearing from a Felder rep that there’s not a compatible Aigner Integral Fence that would work with my original shaper hood (pictured and linked below).?
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Mr. Kee’s earlier message gave me some hope but I have yet to see any pictures of examples where someone has “enlarged the hole” to make the Aigner fence fit.
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I’d be very appreciative if any of you can point me to a good example showing how this is done before I make a purchase decision.?
Many thanks!
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Hammans Stallings
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Re: Scoring Blade, flange, and bolt for BF 6-41
Definitely just contact Felder for the spare parts. At least here in Canada, i have found them to be very reasonably priced. Definitely cheaper than having something machined up as a one off. Felder's e-store is where you can get a scoring blade. Alternatively try FS Tools, they make great blades.
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Bryce
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https://www.brycecomerwoodworks.com/
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHdrRaAZd_pOa7wwbdNPUEw
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Re: Groover / Dado advice
I have a 10-inch (254mm) Forrest Dado King drilled to fit a KF700 saw arbor (or 30mm shaper spindle) that I’m willing to sell. ?It was used only once to cut tenons in 10 Douglas Fir fence rails, and has sat in its storage cassette ever since. ?So it is still sharp. ?If someone is interested, DM me and we can discuss pricing. ?Photos below of my unit, but?except?it’s out of stock everywhere, and Forrest says to expect 2-3 months for delivery if you order from them. ?I bought this 10-inch kit because I needed a 90mm depth of cut on the fence rail tenons using the shaper, but had it bored for the pin holes just in case I wanted to use it on my KF700 (which I no longer own).
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Tenoning operation:
David Best DBestWorkshop@...
https://www.flickr.com/photos/davidpbest/collections/
https://www.youtube.com/@David_Best
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On Dec 23, 2024, at 6:49?AM, KRPatel via groups.io <kamalsonal@...> wrote:
Sorry to revive an older thread but about to pull the trigger on dado blades for my K700S.? Looking at the Ridge Carbide 6" Chipper Super Dado @ $350 vs the Felder Adjustable Groover Cutter Set 6.3-20mm @$1,209.? Have ruled out the CMT Orange set due to my understanding that boring the pin holes may be structurally problematic.? Looking to make 1/4" to 3/4"ish Dados and don't think they will get enough use to warrant replaceable knives.
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What am I missing in the terms of the price delta other than the Felder premium ;)?
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Kamal Patel
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Scoring Blade, flange, and bolt for BF 6-41
I have a BF 6-41 (single phase) that I purchased used some 25 years ago. It has the scoring arbor that appears to function. It turns when the machine is on, but I've never used it as it is missing the flange and bolt. And of course I would need a scoring blade.?
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I have a few questions before I try to source or have the flange fabricated.?
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Is it worth it. Will the scoring blade make a difference? I have a Forrest Duraline HI-A/T that I currently use on sheet goods. Seems to do a good job but I still get some chipping on Melamine board. Seems like the scoring unit would eliminate this.
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If worth it, any specific blade recommendations here?
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Where can I source the bolt and flange? Is Felder the only source and are they likely to even have these parts??
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Thanks in advance and Happy Holidays!
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Louis
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Re: Groover / Dado advice
Kamal,
I have the 8” size Forrest’s dado set.
Thx,
Wade
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On Dec 23, 2024, at 7:34?AM, Rich M. via groups.io <rmarkiewicz@...> wrote:
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I tried to use the Felder grooving cutter for some dadoes for 1/4 ply on the C3.
Ply being ply, it was about 1/32 thinner.? The Felder cutters did not go that thin.
Ended up getting a 6" Forrest Dado King, which worked fine.
Imran's point about depth of cut is relevant here.
Depending on your intended use, you might verify the exact Felder dimensions before pulling the trigger.
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Re: Groover / Dado advice
Brian,
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My understanding is that you were sent tooling designer for the shaper (spindle), while you were looking for something that could be used on both saw and shaper.
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An example of what you may be looking for is seen on the attached image. You will notice there are two sets of pin holes.
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Imran provided good advice regarding getting back to Felder.
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I hope this helps,
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Jacques
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Re: Groover / Dado advice
Hi Brian,
I wood call Felder, speak with a manager, ask for a return shipping label and ask for a refund or exchange.
I don’t know why they would have southway does not fit the machine.
BTW, I have done the above process with item that came damaged and also for a flipstop with a crooked body. Not something you could even try to fix.
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On Dec 23, 2024, at 11:31?AM, B Lam via groups.io <Brianlam8@...> wrote: ? I also bought a cutter that had pin holes but wouldn’t mount on the pin pattern on the saw arbor. It is part number 4.1.173 and I have other sizes and they don’t fit. What is this cutter meant for? I’m trying in a kf700sp.
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photo attached showing pin hole offset from the ones on the arbor washer.
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im assuming it’s for a different saw or a shaper but don’t understand the pins.
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support and sales have ignored my question and sold me this during the sale process with no warning.?
brian lam
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Re: Groover / Dado advice
I also bought a cutter that had pin holes but wouldn’t mount on the pin pattern on the saw arbor. It is part number 4.1.173 and I have other sizes and they don’t fit. What is this cutter meant for? I’m trying in a kf700sp.
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photo attached showing pin hole offset from the ones on the arbor washer.
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im assuming it’s for a different saw or a shaper but don’t understand the pins.
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support and sales have ignored my question and sold me this during the sale process with no warning.?
brian lam
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Re: Groover / Dado advice
Kamal -
I tried to use the Felder grooving cutter for some dadoes for 1/4 ply on the C3.
Ply being ply, it was about 1/32 thinner.? The Felder cutters did not go that thin.
Ended up getting a 6" Forrest Dado King, which worked fine.
Imran's point about depth of cut is relevant here.
Depending on your intended use, you might verify the exact Felder dimensions before pulling the trigger.
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Re: Groover / Dado advice
Hi Kamal,
You may already know this but to be sure 6" dado will give you about 1" depth of cut (depending upon your saw aggregate). May be this is fine for your use case.
I did have the older 8" CMT that I bought from Scott & Sargent which was fine. I could see the individual kerf lines but no perceptible ridges. I sold that after acquiring the Felder dado set. Oh! I don't need the pin holes on K975 so will need to check if same is available with Felder pin pattern.
Hope this helps.
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On Dec 23, 2024, at 9:50?AM, KRPatel via groups.io <kamalsonal@...> wrote: ? Sorry to revive an older thread but about to pull the trigger on dado blades for my K700S.? Looking at the Ridge Carbide 6" Chipper Super Dado @ $350 vs the Felder Adjustable Groover Cutter Set 6.3-20mm @$1,209.? Have ruled out the CMT Orange set due to my understanding that boring the pin holes may be structurally problematic.? Looking to make 1/4" to 3/4"ish Dados and don't think they will get enough use to warrant replaceable knives.
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What am I missing in the terms of the price delta other than the Felder premium ;)?
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Kamal Patel
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Re: Groover / Dado advice
I have the ridge carbide stack and it works well for the most part. However if you are trying to get any precise measurements dialed in then it can prove to be very annoying with the shims. The numbers they give should add up but somehow they don’t and you’re left figuring out various combinations to get your measurement right. At least that was my experience so far. I will be replacing it with a euro type dado cutter sooner than later.?
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On Dec 23, 2024, at 10:12?AM, Wade Dees via groups.io <wjdsignature@...> wrote:
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I have the Forrest stack for my K700S. ?Great results for me.
Wade
On Dec 23, 2024, at 6:50?AM, KRPatel via groups.io <kamalsonal@...> wrote:
? Sorry to revive an older thread but about to pull the trigger on dado blades for my K700S.? Looking at the Ridge Carbide 6" Chipper Super Dado @ $350 vs the Felder Adjustable Groover Cutter Set 6.3-20mm @$1,209.? Have ruled out the CMT Orange set due to my understanding that boring the pin holes may be structurally problematic.? Looking to make 1/4" to 3/4"ish Dados and don't think they will get enough use to warrant replaceable knives.
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What am I missing in the terms of the price delta other than the Felder premium ;)?
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Kamal Patel
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Re: Groover / Dado advice
Kamal,
I have the Forrest stack for my K700S. ?Great results for me.
Wade
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On Dec 23, 2024, at 6:50?AM, KRPatel via groups.io <kamalsonal@...> wrote:
? Sorry to revive an older thread but about to pull the trigger on dado blades for my K700S.? Looking at the Ridge Carbide 6" Chipper Super Dado @ $350 vs the Felder Adjustable Groover Cutter Set 6.3-20mm @$1,209.? Have ruled out the CMT Orange set due to my understanding that boring the pin holes may be structurally problematic.? Looking to make 1/4" to 3/4"ish Dados and don't think they will get enough use to warrant replaceable knives.
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What am I missing in the terms of the price delta other than the Felder premium ;)?
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Kamal Patel
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Re: Groover / Dado advice
I have the Forrest 8” that I used in my K700S. It worked well the few times I used it.?
I don’t know how it will work on my K450X, as the pin setup is not present when using the Dado.?
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Kappa 450X and A941
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Re: Groover / Dado advice
Sorry to revive an older thread but about to pull the trigger on dado blades for my K700S.? Looking at the Ridge Carbide 6" Chipper Super Dado @ $350 vs the Felder Adjustable Groover Cutter Set 6.3-20mm @$1,209.? Have ruled out the CMT Orange set due to my understanding that boring the pin holes may be structurally problematic.? Looking to make 1/4" to 3/4"ish Dados and don't think they will get enough use to warrant replaceable knives.
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What am I missing in the terms of the price delta other than the Felder premium ;)?
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Kamal Patel
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Re: Phase Perfect Price Increase
David:
This may be?due to Revenue Recognition guidelines within US Accounting principles. If memory serves, companies were abusing the ‘buy and hold’ practice to manipulate the timing of reported?Revenue and Earnings.
Mike D.
On Saturday, December 21, 2024, 14:09, David Davies via groups.io <myfinishingtouch@...> wrote: The rumor is true that come the new year Phase Technologies are raising their prices and no they won't let you buy one now for delivery in six months when your shop is completed.? I figured how hard could it be?? I give them $13,000 now for a PT040 to be delivered in June.? But no they're having nothing to do with that idea.
Dave Davies
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Mike D.
Annapolis, MD
AD951; K700S; N4400
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