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Re: KF 700S shaper does not turn on
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýNo Problem. I am in shop and can confirm that prior to 4/2007 ?(which is my machine), the belts used are:
From your document, it appears that Felder minimized the belts to stock and used the regular spindle belt (559) for 50 Hz router spindle. Imran Malik On Nov 24, 2024, at 11:02?AM, mariusz_m via groups.io <mariusz_m@...> wrote:
? Sorry Imran, of course it was a typo!
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Re: KF 700S shaper does not turn on
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýLast I knew 424-111 is the router spindle for machines after 4/2007 and 60 Hz. Maybe there is a typo in your msg below. The belt numbers sound correct for regular spindle vs router spindle but not for different Hz.I will correct myself once in shop. Imran Malik On Nov 24, 2024, at 9:46?AM, mariusz_m via groups.io <mariusz_m@...> wrote:
? [Edited Message Follows] Apparently there are 2 different high speed spindles:
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424-110 is for 50Hz
424-112 is for 60Hz
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and corresponding belts:
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9 PJ 559 is for 50Hz
9 PJ 533 is for 60Hz
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The belts are clearly marked, I have yet to check the spindle.?
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Re: Alpine advance joinery workclass
Hi Netanel,?
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I'll be attending a different Alpine class March 12-15 2025. This will be my fourth class, I figure once I've attended them all I'll just start over and begin re-taking classes. Aside from being tremendously informative, I also find them to be a very enjoyable trip. Greg is a great host, and Joe has a deep well of knowledge. Be sure to take LOTS of photos, and copious notes.?
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I agree with the advice of buying tooling on an as-needed basis. If you're buying from Rangate, be sure to describe what you plan on using the tooling for, as they may steer you towards a different tool. It's important to note that Rangate has a lot of tooling not listed on the website, so it's worth having a conversation about what it is you're looking to achieve.?
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I hope you enjoy your trip.?
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Re: KF 700S shaper does not turn on
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýHi Mariusz, Yes, the brake board is in the electrical cabinet and that is why I suggested you work with Felder because the seal should be broken with Felder permission or under their instruction. My KF is older so I can¡¯t guide you properly but there is a picture on my machine that tells me that router should be used with belt at 7800 RPM position. Obviously there is more in the manual. You are right; only one motor pulley should line up with the router spindle. Just curious, how did you find out that you have belt for 50 Hz machine? I am not in the shop, so don¡¯t have the 2 belt lengths handy but yours are probably are different anyways. Imran Malik On Nov 24, 2024, at 8:51?AM, mariusz_m via groups.io <mariusz_m@...> wrote:
? [Edited Message Follows] Thanks a lot Imran!
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I have yet to look at the electrical plans, but I¡¯m assuming the break board is in the electrical compartment - correct? If so, there is a warranty seal on the exterior electrical access panel, so I will need to get an ok from Felder to cut it.?
This is the first time I¡¯m using the shaper on this thing, actually I changed the 30mm spindle to a high speed spindle and since I didn¡¯t find anything in the manual, I assumed (please correct me if I¡¯m an idiot) that the drive belt that comes with the high speed spindle is to be used on the second pulley from the bottom to get the proper speed- this is the only pulley that lines up properly with the spindle, so I hope I¡¯m correct and the spindle speed is not the culprit here.?
Oh, did check and the belt they sent me is for 50 not 60Hz
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Re: Christmas in November
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýCongratulations¡.and sorry to hear about the slider.?
My very recent?experience of this is that the Felder techs will do everything except the electrical hook ups and the dust collection pipe work¡they will not put their fingerprints on pipe work or cabling or fuse boards. That¡¯s their employment
contract kicking in of their is an injury..you will most likely need make 3phase socket cables to your isolators for easy connection to your new machine¡they will not provide unless you asked in the order.
Once the machine is set in place, the first job is the slider so best to leave ever Wrapped till that arrives as anything missing, which there is a lot of loose parts wrapped in the crate¡.goes missing very easily.
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of John Hinman via groups.io <jhinman1911@...>
Sent: Saturday, November 23, 2024 7:02:41 AM To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: [FOG] Christmas in November ?
Just got a new saw today! Ordered in March, so it has been a long wait.
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Unfortunately Felder shipped someone else¡¯s slider with it. The first thing the rigger brought in was that incorrect slider, and as soon as he had it in the shop Felder called to ask for the serial number and tell me it was the wrong one. Ah, well. Felder
is taking care of it.
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I am a bit confused about assembly and commissioning. Perhaps someone here can give me some advice.
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How much assembly am I supposed to do before the tech arrives? I am supposed to send a photo showing power connected and dust collection connected, which requires some assembly. I cannot verify that the power is connected correctly until the slider and
the control display is hooked up. However, the user manual says only authorized Felder techs can do assembly and the manual does not provide much assembly information.
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The tech is supposed to arrive between 3 and 4 PM the day of the commissioning, which does not leave much time for assembly. That suggests I ought to have the basic assembly done.
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What has other people¡¯s experience been?
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Re: KF 700S shaper does not turn on
Hi Mariusz,
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I had a similar issue on my saw and it was the brake board. It was setting a fault and the fault erased with power cycle. In my case, it just needed re-calibrated. Since you have a new machine, you should work with Felder as this would require opening the electrical cabinet.
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Following may speed up the call. An LED on the brake board flashes a 2 digit code (unless things have changed in the 18 yrs). If you are familiar with how GM cars flashed trouble codes, before the code readers came around, it is the same method. Long pause between digits and short pause when counting a digit and an even longer pause between the repeating of 2 digits.
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If a cutterhead is installed, then double check that you are running it at proper speed.
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The only other thing that I can think off is the overload relay. However, it takes the specified amount of time to reset which is not sped up with power cycle.
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Please share what you find to improve our collective knowledge.
Imran Malik
On Nov 24, 2024, at 6:46?AM, mariusz_m via groups.io <mariusz_m@...> wrote:
Today I turned on my shaper for the first time since the machine was delivered and it turned on fine, however after turning it of it would not turn on again. I checked the fuses and all was fine, power drive on it works fine, but unless I power cycle the machine the shaper will not turn on again and after turning it off I need to power cycle the machine to get it to turn on again.?
What do you guys think it might be, bad capacitor or something else?
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I will call Felder tomorrow, but maybe I¡¯m overlooking something? Should I try to troubleshoot this?
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Thanks a lot!
Mariusz
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Re: Alpine advance joinery workclass
Echoing others here -- I've been to two Alpine workshops -- Shaper Operations and North American Doors. Invaluable learning, Joe will gear what you actually do in the class to anything you might be working on or planning to work on so that what you learn is applicable; not to mention the camaraderie with your fellow participants. On that note, PK and Bon, keep me posted on the next class you're thinking of. -- gotta get Levi and Mica and get the band back together in Ouray!
Kerry
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