Re: What is the best dust extractor for portable tools?
Couple of examples. These are not related to the air leak, just examples of plastic parts breaking.
 
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On Oct 5, 2024, at 7:39?PM, Imran Malik <imranindiana@...> wrote: ? I second David K. experience with brittle plastic with age of Festool Vac. I sometimes grab the vac to get it over something from the top section. I have broken small protrusions around the caddy on top in multiple places.
On Oct 5, 2024, at 5:43?PM, David Luckensmeyer via groups.io <david@...> wrote:
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PK:
Have you examined the used CT33 for cracks on the external housing? I have 4 x Festool vacs, 26, 33, 33, and 48, and my oldest is approaching 15 years. One of my CT33s has cracked all the way through and has a total loss of suction. I keep the
parts in the hope of gluing it back together.?
The Festools use plastic that becomes brittle over time. Very unfortunate. A small crack might explain the lower suction you¡¯re experiencing. ??
Warm regards,
Lucky
Dr David Luckensmeyer?
Designer & Maker
@luckensmeyer
M: 0413 013 115
PK?
I use my CT36 all the time for this and l love it!
Thx,
Wade
On Oct 5, 2024, at 2:22?PM, PK <pk@...> wrote:
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I have two small Festool dust extractors and they work well.? With the new shop, after some use and tripping over cords and hoses, I need to make a sanding station that is portable and keeps the sanders and extractor together.
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So I like the idea of the Festool cart that attaches to the CT26 and CT36 (or CT22 and CT33).? So I decided to look around for a used extractor.? I found a CT 33, got it home and fond that the suction is worse than my CT Midi (It has a new bag and new
filters too).? So I did some diagnosing on google and decided to take it apart to see if the brushes were worn or the turbine was worn out...? It all looks fine, so what to do.? I guess see if it works as good as the Midi and live with it?
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So while thinking about it, I was ready to just get something new and better (If that exists)
?
These are my perceived options (I am taking the shop vacs out for noise issues)
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- Festool CT26/36 (Sanding station is optional)
- Surfprep POV-8? (no sanding station)
- Uneeda Ekasand series 2 (Sanding station option)
- 3m Extract ?(no sanding station)
- Fein turbo II ?(no sanding station)
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I am sure there are others,? What say you all?? I would love your opinions.
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PK
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Re: What is the best dust extractor for portable tools?
Nilfisk would be high on my list to evaluate.? David Best - via mobile phone?
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On Oct 5, 2024, at 2:21?PM, PK via groups.io <pk@...> wrote:
? I have two small Festool dust extractors and they work well.? With the new shop, after some use and tripping over cords and hoses, I need to make a sanding station that is portable and keeps the sanders and extractor together.
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So I like the idea of the Festool cart that attaches to the CT26 and CT36 (or CT22 and CT33).? So I decided to look around for a used extractor.? I found a CT 33, got it home and fond that the suction is worse than my CT Midi (It has a new bag and new filters too).? So I did some diagnosing on google and decided to take it apart to see if the brushes were worn or the turbine was worn out...? It all looks fine, so what to do.? I guess see if it works as good as the Midi and live with it?
?
So while thinking about it, I was ready to just get something new and better (If that exists)
?
These are my perceived options (I am taking the shop vacs out for noise issues)
?
- Festool CT26/36 (Sanding station is optional)
- Surfprep POV-8? (no sanding station)
- Uneeda Ekasand series 2 (Sanding station option)
- 3m Extract ?(no sanding station)
- Fein turbo II ?(no sanding station)
?
I am sure there are others,? What say you all?? I would love your opinions.
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PK
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Re: What is the best dust extractor for portable tools?
David K may well have the same opinion but David L is experiencing the brittle plastic. ??
Warm regards,
Lucky
Dr David Luckensmeyer?
Designer & Maker
@luckensmeyer
M: 0413 013 115
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I second David K. experience with brittle plastic with age of Festool Vac. I sometimes grab the vac to get it over something from the top section. I have broken small protrusions around the caddy on top in multiple places.
On Oct 5, 2024, at 5:43?PM, David Luckensmeyer via groups.io <david@...> wrote:
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PK:
Have you examined the used CT33 for cracks on the external housing? I have 4 x Festool vacs, 26, 33, 33, and 48, and my oldest is approaching 15 years. One of my CT33s has cracked all the way through and has a total loss of suction. I keep the
parts in the hope of gluing it back together.?
The Festools use plastic that becomes brittle over time. Very unfortunate. A small crack might explain the lower suction you¡¯re experiencing. ??
Warm regards,
Lucky
Dr David Luckensmeyer?
Designer & Maker
@luckensmeyer
M: 0413 013 115
PK?
I use my CT36 all the time for this and l love it!
Thx,
Wade
On Oct 5, 2024, at 2:22?PM, PK <pk@...> wrote:
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I have two small Festool dust extractors and they work well.? With the new shop, after some use and tripping over cords and hoses, I need to make a sanding station that is portable and keeps the sanders and extractor together.
?
So I like the idea of the Festool cart that attaches to the CT26 and CT36 (or CT22 and CT33).? So I decided to look around for a used extractor.? I found a CT 33, got it home and fond that the suction is worse than my CT Midi (It has a new bag and new
filters too).? So I did some diagnosing on google and decided to take it apart to see if the brushes were worn or the turbine was worn out...? It all looks fine, so what to do.? I guess see if it works as good as the Midi and live with it?
?
So while thinking about it, I was ready to just get something new and better (If that exists)
?
These are my perceived options (I am taking the shop vacs out for noise issues)
?
- Festool CT26/36 (Sanding station is optional)
- Surfprep POV-8? (no sanding station)
- Uneeda Ekasand series 2 (Sanding station option)
- 3m Extract ?(no sanding station)
- Fein turbo II ?(no sanding station)
?
I am sure there are others,? What say you all?? I would love your opinions.
?
PK
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Re: What is the best dust extractor for portable tools?
I second David K. experience with brittle plastic with age of Festool Vac. I sometimes grab the vac to get it over something from the top section. I have broken small protrusions around the caddy on top in multiple places.
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On Oct 5, 2024, at 5:43?PM, David Luckensmeyer via groups.io <david@...> wrote: ?
PK:
Have you examined the used CT33 for cracks on the external housing? I have 4 x Festool vacs, 26, 33, 33, and 48, and my oldest is approaching 15 years. One of my CT33s has cracked all the way through and has a total loss of suction. I keep the
parts in the hope of gluing it back together.?
The Festools use plastic that becomes brittle over time. Very unfortunate. A small crack might explain the lower suction you¡¯re experiencing. ??
Warm regards,
Lucky
Dr David Luckensmeyer?
Designer & Maker
@luckensmeyer
M: 0413 013 115
PK?
I use my CT36 all the time for this and l love it!
Thx,
Wade
On Oct 5, 2024, at 2:22?PM, PK <pk@...> wrote:
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I have two small Festool dust extractors and they work well.? With the new shop, after some use and tripping over cords and hoses, I need to make a sanding station that is portable and keeps the sanders and extractor together.
?
So I like the idea of the Festool cart that attaches to the CT26 and CT36 (or CT22 and CT33).? So I decided to look around for a used extractor.? I found a CT 33, got it home and fond that the suction is worse than my CT Midi (It has a new bag and new
filters too).? So I did some diagnosing on google and decided to take it apart to see if the brushes were worn or the turbine was worn out...? It all looks fine, so what to do.? I guess see if it works as good as the Midi and live with it?
?
So while thinking about it, I was ready to just get something new and better (If that exists)
?
These are my perceived options (I am taking the shop vacs out for noise issues)
?
- Festool CT26/36 (Sanding station is optional)
- Surfprep POV-8? (no sanding station)
- Uneeda Ekasand series 2 (Sanding station option)
- 3m Extract ?(no sanding station)
- Fein turbo II ?(no sanding station)
?
I am sure there are others,? What say you all?? I would love your opinions.
?
PK
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Re: What is the best dust extractor for portable tools?
PK,
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I have no experience with the product, but Mirka could be one of the brands you may want to look into as well.
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J.
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Re: What is the best dust extractor for portable tools?
I also like my CT36 a lot and? probably would recommend it as well. It truly sucks...
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Re: What is the best dust extractor for portable tools?
PK,
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Not sure what is wrong with the CT33, but from the spec they should be really close to the CT Midi in respect to performance.
CT midi - 130 cfm at 96¡± static water lift
CT33 - 134 cfm at 90¡± static water lift
maybe it worth sending the unit to Festool for repair.
I am not familiar with the other dust extractor, but I am really happy with the festool one.?
Especially when I have additional festool tools. The ecosystem works really nice (like pairing Bluetooth devices to the DE)
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Re: What is the best dust extractor for portable tools?
PK:
Have you examined the used CT33 for cracks on the external housing? I have 4 x Festool vacs, 26, 33, 33, and 48, and my oldest is approaching 15 years. One of my CT33s has cracked all the way through and has a total loss of suction. I keep the
parts in the hope of gluing it back together.?
The Festools use plastic that becomes brittle over time. Very unfortunate. A small crack might explain the lower suction you¡¯re experiencing. ??
Warm regards,
Lucky
Dr David Luckensmeyer?
Designer & Maker
@luckensmeyer
M: 0413 013 115
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PK?
I use my CT36 all the time for this and l love it!
Thx,
Wade
On Oct 5, 2024, at 2:22?PM, PK <pk@...> wrote:
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I have two small Festool dust extractors and they work well.? With the new shop, after some use and tripping over cords and hoses, I need to make a sanding station that is portable and keeps the sanders and extractor together.
?
So I like the idea of the Festool cart that attaches to the CT26 and CT36 (or CT22 and CT33).? So I decided to look around for a used extractor.? I found a CT 33, got it home and fond that the suction is worse than my CT Midi (It has a new bag and new
filters too).? So I did some diagnosing on google and decided to take it apart to see if the brushes were worn or the turbine was worn out...? It all looks fine, so what to do.? I guess see if it works as good as the Midi and live with it?
?
So while thinking about it, I was ready to just get something new and better (If that exists)
?
These are my perceived options (I am taking the shop vacs out for noise issues)
?
- Festool CT26/36 (Sanding station is optional)
- Surfprep POV-8? (no sanding station)
- Uneeda Ekasand series 2 (Sanding station option)
- 3m Extract ?(no sanding station)
- Fein turbo II ?(no sanding station)
?
I am sure there are others,? What say you all?? I would love your opinions.
?
PK
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Re: What is the best dust extractor for portable tools?
PK?
I use my CT36 all the time for this and l love it!
Thx,
Wade
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On Oct 5, 2024, at 2:22?PM, PK <pk@...> wrote:
? I have two small Festool dust extractors and they work well.? With the new shop, after some use and tripping over cords and hoses, I need to make a sanding station that is portable and keeps the sanders and extractor together.
?
So I like the idea of the Festool cart that attaches to the CT26 and CT36 (or CT22 and CT33).? So I decided to look around for a used extractor.? I found a CT 33, got it home and fond that the suction is worse than my CT Midi (It has a new bag and new filters too).? So I did some diagnosing on google and decided to take it apart to see if the brushes were worn or the turbine was worn out...? It all looks fine, so what to do.? I guess see if it works as good as the Midi and live with it?
?
So while thinking about it, I was ready to just get something new and better (If that exists)
?
These are my perceived options (I am taking the shop vacs out for noise issues)
?
- Festool CT26/36 (Sanding station is optional)
- Surfprep POV-8? (no sanding station)
- Uneeda Ekasand series 2 (Sanding station option)
- 3m Extract ?(no sanding station)
- Fein turbo II ?(no sanding station)
?
I am sure there are others,? What say you all?? I would love your opinions.
?
PK
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What is the best dust extractor for portable tools?
I have two small Festool dust extractors and they work well.? With the new shop, after some use and tripping over cords and hoses, I need to make a sanding station that is portable and keeps the sanders and extractor together.
?
So I like the idea of the Festool cart that attaches to the CT26 and CT36 (or CT22 and CT33).? So I decided to look around for a used extractor.? I found a CT 33, got it home and found that the suction is worse than my CT Midi (It has a new bag and new filters too).? So I did some diagnosing on google and decided to take it apart to see if the brushes were worn or the turbine was worn out...? It all looks fine, so what to do.? I guess see if it works as good as the Midi and live with it?
?
So while thinking about it, I was ready to just get something new and better (If that exists)
?
These are my perceived options (I am taking the shop vacs out for noise issues)
?
- Festool CT26/36 (Sanding station is optional)
- Surfprep POV-8? (no sanding station)
- Uneeda Ekasand series 2 (Sanding station option)
- 3m Extract ?(no sanding station)
- Fein turbo II ?(no sanding station)
?
I am sure there are others,? What say you all?? I would love your opinions.
?
PK
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Re: Felder Shaper Fence - Readout / Eepeatability
Tom, thanks for the tip on ordering the T130 w/mm scale. I'll be ordering one with the side-mounted tenoning carriage at the end of the year and my quote specifies North American scales. I'm glad I saw your post because I've finally trained my brain to convert mm/inches. Having to convert decimals to fractions would have put me over the edge!
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Kerry Smith
Gotham Woodworks
www.gothamwoodworks.com
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Re: AD951 jointer snipe/taper issues
To follow up, no movement on the infeed table Designing and building for 50 years
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On Oct 3, 2024, at 1:12?PM, mac campshure <mac512002@...> wrote:
? The story is told by putting Dial indicator on the outfit table on the right and the left side and as you tighten down your kip lever, you should see no? Mac,, Designing and building for 50 years On Oct 3, 2024, at 1:10?PM, mac campshure <mac512002@...> wrote:
? Good point ?if you have a cover that needs to come off in a darn good flashlight, and I prefer couple thou brass shim so I can tug on it little bit. Designing and building for 50 years On Oct 3, 2024, at 12:11?PM, habacomike (Mike King) via groups.io <habacomike@...> wrote:
? One of the guides to aligning the jointer talks about closing a piece of tissue paper between the temple bolt to assure that they all are in proper tension. ?You might check that out. On Oct 2, 2024, at 2:25?PM, mac campshure via groups.io <mac512002@...> wrote:
my 2 cents? temple bolt heights are probably not in same plane and your clamping tension is different when u clamp so changes the height of the table,they should fit perfectly flat on both heads or you have a problem.?
martin/campshure/co/llc
mac campshure
7412 elmwood ave.
middleton, wi 53562-3106
608-332-2330 cell 608-824-0023 fax
instagram.com/maccampshure/
Designing and building for 50 years
On Wednesday, October 2, 2024 at 07:31:52 AM CDT, Jakob <jakobpevec@...> wrote:
Hi there!
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I have the AD951 machine, 2020 model and have trouble keeping jointer accurate.
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I can tune the machine to make flat faces, come back to it the next day and have it produce either snipe (outfeed table too low) or taper (outfeed table too high). Honestly I have no idea what to try, adjusting it basically became a daily chore, which wastes time and material needed to tune it.
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Any ideas what could be the cause and how to fix it?
?
Best regards,
?
Jakob
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Re: AD951 jointer snipe/taper issues
The story is told by putting Dial indicator on the outfit table on the right and the left side and as you tighten down your kip lever, you should see no? Mac,, Designing and building for 50 years
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On Oct 3, 2024, at 1:10?PM, mac campshure <mac512002@...> wrote:
? Good point ?if you have a cover that needs to come off in a darn good flashlight, and I prefer couple thou brass shim so I can tug on it little bit. Designing and building for 50 years On Oct 3, 2024, at 12:11?PM, habacomike (Mike King) via groups.io <habacomike@...> wrote:
? One of the guides to aligning the jointer talks about closing a piece of tissue paper between the temple bolt to assure that they all are in proper tension. ?You might check that out. On Oct 2, 2024, at 2:25?PM, mac campshure via groups.io <mac512002@...> wrote:
my 2 cents? temple bolt heights are probably not in same plane and your clamping tension is different when u clamp so changes the height of the table,they should fit perfectly flat on both heads or you have a problem.?
martin/campshure/co/llc
mac campshure
7412 elmwood ave.
middleton, wi 53562-3106
608-332-2330 cell 608-824-0023 fax
instagram.com/maccampshure/
Designing and building for 50 years
On Wednesday, October 2, 2024 at 07:31:52 AM CDT, Jakob <jakobpevec@...> wrote:
Hi there!
?
I have the AD951 machine, 2020 model and have trouble keeping jointer accurate.
?
I can tune the machine to make flat faces, come back to it the next day and have it produce either snipe (outfeed table too low) or taper (outfeed table too high). Honestly I have no idea what to try, adjusting it basically became a daily chore, which wastes time and material needed to tune it.
?
Any ideas what could be the cause and how to fix it?
?
Best regards,
?
Jakob
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Re: AD951 jointer snipe/taper issues
Good point ?if you have a cover that needs to come off in a darn good flashlight, and I prefer couple thou brass shim so I can tug on it little bit. Designing and building for 50 years
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On Oct 3, 2024, at 12:11?PM, habacomike (Mike King) via groups.io <habacomike@...> wrote:
? One of the guides to aligning the jointer talks about closing a piece of tissue paper between the temple bolt to assure that they all are in proper tension. ?You might check that out. On Oct 2, 2024, at 2:25?PM, mac campshure via groups.io <mac512002@...> wrote:
my 2 cents? temple bolt heights are probably not in same plane and your clamping tension is different when u clamp so changes the height of the table,they should fit perfectly flat on both heads or you have a problem.?
martin/campshure/co/llc
mac campshure
7412 elmwood ave.
middleton, wi 53562-3106
608-332-2330 cell 608-824-0023 fax
instagram.com/maccampshure/
Designing and building for 50 years
On Wednesday, October 2, 2024 at 07:31:52 AM CDT, Jakob <jakobpevec@...> wrote:
Hi there!
?
I have the AD951 machine, 2020 model and have trouble keeping jointer accurate.
?
I can tune the machine to make flat faces, come back to it the next day and have it produce either snipe (outfeed table too low) or taper (outfeed table too high). Honestly I have no idea what to try, adjusting it basically became a daily chore, which wastes time and material needed to tune it.
?
Any ideas what could be the cause and how to fix it?
?
Best regards,
?
Jakob
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Re: AD951 jointer snipe/taper issues
One of the guides to aligning the jointer talks about closing a piece of tissue paper between the temple bolt to assure that they all are in proper tension. ?You might check that out.
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On Oct 2, 2024, at 2:25?PM, mac campshure via groups.io <mac512002@...> wrote:
my 2 cents? temple bolt heights are probably not in same plane and your clamping tension is different when u clamp so changes the height of the table,they should fit perfectly flat on both heads or you have a problem.?
martin/campshure/co/llc
mac campshure
7412 elmwood ave.
middleton, wi 53562-3106
608-332-2330 cell 608-824-0023 fax
instagram.com/maccampshure/
Designing and building for 50 years
On Wednesday, October 2, 2024 at 07:31:52 AM CDT, Jakob <jakobpevec@...> wrote:
Hi there!
?
I have the AD951 machine, 2020 model and have trouble keeping jointer accurate.
?
I can tune the machine to make flat faces, come back to it the next day and have it produce either snipe (outfeed table too low) or taper (outfeed table too high). Honestly I have no idea what to try, adjusting it basically became a daily chore, which wastes time and material needed to tune it.
?
Any ideas what could be the cause and how to fix it?
?
Best regards,
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Jakob
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CF741S Combination Machine - Adjusting the Outfeed bed after cleaning and changing the Carbide Inserts - Cutterblock Silent Power
Good afternoon all,
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I have just finished the process of cahnging the inserts for the first time, i.e location 2 on the intserts in line with the instructions of the Usage and Mainrance Manual and also reconfirming that the outfeed table is coplaner with the cutter block. Macine is 2022 build.
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However I am seeing a snigificant change in run out, from 0 to 15mm which checking the level difference between the cutter and the bed.
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This is fustrating as its causing a differing cutter shaving on the pieces being jointed.
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Has anyone experienced this and are there any remidies other that trying to stick to consistant locations to pass the wood over/through the machine beds?.
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Obiviously i have torques and cleaned all the inserts as per the manual and everything seemed ok during the process.
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BTW - thank you David P Best for your unofficial survival guide for jointers, without it i do not this i would have the confidence to state the above while making the adjustements and using his calibration techniques.
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Br
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Colum
Dubai Workshop
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Re: AD951 jointer snipe/taper issues
my 2 cents? temple bolt heights are probably not in same plane and your clamping tension is different when u clamp so changes the height of the table,they should fit perfectly flat on both heads or you have a problem.?
martin/campshure/co/llc
mac campshure
7412 elmwood ave.
middleton, wi 53562-3106
608-332-2330 cell 608-824-0023 fax
instagram.com/maccampshure/
Designing and building for 50 years
On Wednesday, October 2, 2024 at 07:31:52 AM CDT, Jakob <jakobpevec@...> wrote:
Hi there!
?
I have the AD951 machine, 2020 model and have trouble keeping jointer accurate.
?
I can tune the machine to make flat faces, come back to it the next day and have it produce either snipe (outfeed table too low) or taper (outfeed table too high). Honestly I have no idea what to try, adjusting it basically became a daily chore, which wastes time and material needed to tune it.
?
Any ideas what could be the cause and how to fix it?
?
Best regards,
?
Jakob
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Re: AD951 jointer snipe/taper issues
Hi Jakob,?
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Do you have a sense of what is going out of alignment? In-feed table or out-feed table? If you don't already know, you may benefit from recording some data when you do get it dialed in (for instance out-feed position relative to cutterblock, planarity, etc...), so when the machine is observed to be out of alignment you can at least diagnose what's happening (are the tables still coplanar but one has dropped, are they going out of coplanarity, etc..).?
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Is your Shop climate controlled? Is it drifting just being left overnight, or is it drifting when you're lifting the tables for thickness planing??
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Tom Gensmer
Heritage Home Renewals, LLC
Minneapolis, MN
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AD951 jointer snipe/taper issues
Hi there!
?
I have the AD951 machine, 2020 model and have trouble keeping jointer accurate.
?
I can tune the machine to make flat faces, come back to it the next day and have it produce either snipe (outfeed table too low) or taper (outfeed table too high). Honestly I have no idea what to try, adjusting it basically became a daily chore, which wastes time and material needed to tune it.
?
Any ideas what could be the cause and how to fix it?
?
Best regards,
?
Jakob
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Re: Reset height adjustment AD741
Imran is correct, switch the machine to metric and plane a test piece 20.0mm thick, then press the reset button for 10 seconds. The machine is metric by design.
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Once you change the machine back to Imperial it will be correct.
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Regards, Rod.
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imran
David P. Best
David Luckensmeyer
Bon May
PK
Kerryj_smith
Colum
Tom Gensmer
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