Re: Scoring Blade Durability
Thank you all for the feedback. I just pulled out the blade for cleaning. It is correct size @ 120mm. Just checked eshop, $160 ? for a replacement from Felder. I think I will have current one sharpened first to see if anything changes. Like I said, it cuts fine. Here is a pic of the piece I used little while ago to adjust it.
Following on Mac’s response I see Felder offers single piece scoring blade with conical profile. About half the price of 2 pc std affair.
I assume these are more suitable for dedicated production environment. A hobbyist will either have to remove the blade when it is not needed or adjust it every time once lowered. I guess an option would be to just use it all the times. Any opinions on this option?
Imran
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On Mar 18, 2022, at 2:04 PM, david@... via groups.io <david@...> wrote: ? Imran, I have not had the issues you mention with my scoring blades. ?As far as replacements go, I have not had good experience getting the kind of scoring blade I want (two-piece with shims) from suppliers other than from Felder. ?I suggest you order from Felder.
David Best
https://www.instagram.com/davidpbest/
I have only had scoring blade for few yrs and only used plywood a few times. Blade came with the saw and had the dipped covering on it, as they sometimes do after sharpening.
Point is, I have cleaned it at least 3 times with very little use. It gets covered with crap (I assume adhesives) very quickly and sometimes will have burning smell but wood is not burned. Recently, on birch ply, it cut clean with no splintering, so makes me think it is not dull.
Another clue is that I can feel it pushing the material fwd at initial contact. I think I have it about 1/16” high. I use clamps most of the times and only felt this when I did some ripping recently.
If I wanted to try another blade should I get Felder offering or are there better ones.
Regards,
Imran
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Ok, I can play that game - but let’s switch it up for the better
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On Mar 18, 2022, at 4:49 PM, David Kumm <davekumm@...> wrote:
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This is like a Presidential debate.? Dave
David Best - via mobile phone?
On Mar 18, 2022, at 12:58 PM, David Davies <myfinishingtouch@...> wrote:
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Similar picture of our two mixers
Dave Davies
Size comparison of Laguna 14bx to Felder FB710. Back edge of spines are aligned in plane.
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Mike B
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Dave & Marie Davies
318-219-7868
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This is like a Presidential debate.? Dave
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David Best - via mobile phone?
On Mar 18, 2022, at 12:58 PM, David Davies <myfinishingtouch@...> wrote:
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Similar picture of our two mixers
Dave Davies
Size comparison of Laguna 14bx to Felder FB710. Back edge of spines are aligned in plane.
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Mike B
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Dave & Marie Davies
318-219-7868
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 David Best - via mobile phone?
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On Mar 18, 2022, at 12:58 PM, David Davies <myfinishingtouch@...> wrote:
? Similar picture of our two mixers Dave Davies Size comparison of Laguna 14bx to Felder FB710. Back edge of spines are aligned in plane.
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Mike B
-- Dave & Marie Davies
318-219-7868
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Re: #rfp - Random Friday Photo - March 18, 2022
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Getting tight in the 24’x 24’ shop, squeezed the new to me SCMI in… Pretty much the best spot I could find, not thrilled that it’s close to the bench…
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On Mar 18, 2022, at 4:02 PM, Brian Turner <bjamesturner@...> wrote:
? Ive been thinking about this blade as well. Let me know how it does. According to their documentation?it can be used for sheet goods, hardwood rippnig and hardwood cross cutting. I am skeptical, but if its true it will be 100% worth the price.? On Fri, Mar 18, 2022 at 2:04 PM Sang Luu < sangluu@...> wrote: Received this a while back and looking forward to installing it this weekend for a new set of projects with mostly sheet goods.?
I'm looking forward to the prospect of quiet and clean cuts, hopefully it does the job!?
What primary blade is in your saw right now??
Does PCD "cut it" (:-) for the price?
Happy Friday, FOG!?
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Re: #rfp - Random Friday Photo - March 18, 2022
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Didn't even think Hobart had a countertop version of that! It must be a beast for bread dough!?
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Ive been thinking about this blade as well. Let me know how it does. According to their documentation?it can be used for sheet goods, hardwood rippnig and hardwood cross cutting. I am skeptical, but if its true it will be 100% worth the price.?
On Fri, Mar 18, 2022 at 2:04 PM Sang Luu < sangluu@...> wrote: Received this a while back and looking forward to installing it this weekend for a new set of projects with mostly sheet goods.?
I'm looking forward to the prospect of quiet and clean cuts, hopefully it does the job!?
What primary blade is in your saw right now??
Does PCD "cut it" (:-) for the price?
Happy Friday, FOG!?
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Re: #rfp - Random Friday Photo - March 18, 2022
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Similar picture of our two mixers Dave Davies
Size comparison of Laguna 14bx to Felder FB710. Back edge of spines are aligned in plane.
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Mike B
-- Dave & Marie Davies
318-219-7868
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Re: #rfp - Random Friday Photo - March 18, 2022
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Size comparison of Laguna 14bx to Felder FB710. Back edge of spines are aligned in plane.  -- Mike B
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I’ll have to file that Rotagrip name. It would have been much cheaper.
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John Hinman
Boise ID
K700S, and expecting an A941 in April 2022
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David, I paid $553 including shipping and Idaho sales tax. That compares with the $553 price listed in the Royal Products web site. It was sold through Amazon by Travers Tool Co., Flushing, NY.
It looks like prices for this can go as high as $940!
Royal Products presented this as their product. Royal is an American company, but they do say these chucks are made in Germany.
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John Hinman
Boise ID
K700S, and expecting an A941 in April 2022
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I’m not sure what you paid for your Albrecht, but I have found it much less expensive to order from across the pond. ?Here is where I get my Albrecht, Royal, Vertex, and a bunch of other stuff - the discount on eliminating the VAT is typically equivalent to the shipping cost. ?I order from Rotagrip at least 3X per year - great people.
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I just ordered an Albrecht keyless chuck with integral shank for my Nova. Royal is really proud of their chucks, so I hope it helps.
I was burning drill bits in medium hardwoods, so checked run-out. With a machined indicator pin I was getting 0.007” run-out, which is Nova’s specification. Checking the quill and the chuck end of the arbor, the needle on my indicator barely moved, so the problem is probably in the chuck.
In a week I will know if it helped.
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John Hinman
Boise ID
K700S, and expecting an A941 in April 2022
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I just ordered an Albrecht keyless chuck with integral shank for my Nova. Royal is really proud of their chucks, so I hope it helps.
I was burning drill bits in medium hardwoods, so checked run-out. With a machined indicator pin I was getting 0.007” run-out, which is Nova’s specification. Checking the quill and the chuck end of the arbor, the needle on my indicator barely moved, so the problem is probably in the chuck.
In a week I will know if it helped.
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John Hinman
Boise ID
K700S, and expecting an A941 in April 2022
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Re: Scoring Blade Durability
[ Edited?]. Apologies on the last name.? John Adank,
I have always bought all of my main blades in pairs, this way I always have a sharp one waiting.?
Thx,
Wade
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On Mar 18, 2022, at 11:03 AM, John WI <jnadank@...> wrote:
? I’ve been very satisfied with my Kanefusa main plywood blade and scoring blade. ?The cut quality has been suburb I read oak plywood as well as other species. ?The only drawback is the two blade minimum order. ?I may be interested in splitting the order if you’re interested. ?I’m using mine in a K700P saw
John Adank Onalaska WI On Mar 18, 2022, at 12:45 PM, Brett Wissel <Brettwissel@...> wrote:
? Scoring blade is clearing a clean surface and saving the junk from eating your main blade - doing its job! Oh yeah, and mitigating splintering... On Fri, Mar 18, 2022, 10:20 AM mac campshure via <mac512002= [email protected]> wrote: I run 6” tapered Designing and building for 50 years ?I have only had scoring blade for few yrs and only used plywood a few times. Blade came with the saw and had the dipped covering on it, as they sometimes do after sharpening.
Point is, I have cleaned it at least 3 times with very little use. It gets covered with crap (I assume adhesives) very quickly and sometimes will have burning smell but wood is not burned. Recently, on birch ply, it cut clean with no splintering, so makes me think it is not dull.
Another clue is that I can feel it pushing the material fwd at initial contact. I think I have it about 1/16” high. I use clamps most of the times and only felt this when I did some ripping recently.
If I wanted to try another blade should I get Felder offering or are there better ones.
Regards,
Imran
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Re: Scoring Blade Durability
John Adams,
I have always bought all of my main blades in pairs, this way I always have a sharp one waiting.?
Thx,
Wade
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On Mar 18, 2022, at 11:03 AM, John WI <jnadank@...> wrote:
? I’ve been very satisfied with my Kanefusa main plywood blade and scoring blade. ?The cut quality has been suburb I read oak plywood as well as other species. ?The only drawback is the two blade minimum order. ?I may be interested in splitting the order if you’re interested. ?I’m using mine in a K700P saw
John Adank Onalaska WI On Mar 18, 2022, at 12:45 PM, Brett Wissel <Brettwissel@...> wrote:
? Scoring blade is clearing a clean surface and saving the junk from eating your main blade - doing its job! Oh yeah, and mitigating splintering... On Fri, Mar 18, 2022, 10:20 AM mac campshure via <mac512002= [email protected]> wrote: I run 6” tapered Designing and building for 50 years ?I have only had scoring blade for few yrs and only used plywood a few times. Blade came with the saw and had the dipped covering on it, as they sometimes do after sharpening.
Point is, I have cleaned it at least 3 times with very little use. It gets covered with crap (I assume adhesives) very quickly and sometimes will have burning smell but wood is not burned. Recently, on birch ply, it cut clean with no splintering, so makes me think it is not dull.
Another clue is that I can feel it pushing the material fwd at initial contact. I think I have it about 1/16” high. I use clamps most of the times and only felt this when I did some ripping recently.
If I wanted to try another blade should I get Felder offering or are there better ones.
Regards,
Imran
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Re: Scoring Blade Durability
Imran, I have not had the issues you mention with my scoring blades. ?As far as replacements go, I have not had good experience getting the kind of scoring blade I want (two-piece with shims) from suppliers other than from Felder. ?I suggest you order from Felder.
David Best
https://www.instagram.com/davidpbest/
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I have only had scoring blade for few yrs and only used plywood a few times. Blade came with the saw and had the dipped covering on it, as they sometimes do after sharpening.
Point is, I have cleaned it at least 3 times with very little use. It gets covered with crap (I assume adhesives) very quickly and sometimes will have burning smell but wood is not burned. Recently, on birch ply, it cut clean with no splintering, so makes me think it is not dull.
Another clue is that I can feel it pushing the material fwd at initial contact. I think I have it about 1/16” high. I use clamps most of the times and only felt this when I did some ripping recently.
If I wanted to try another blade should I get Felder offering or are there better ones.
Regards,
Imran
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#rfp - Random Friday Photo - March 18, 2022
#rfp
Received this a while back and looking forward to installing it this weekend for a new set of projects with mostly sheet goods.?
I'm looking forward to the prospect of quiet and clean cuts, hopefully it does the job!?
What primary blade is in your saw right now??
Does PCD "cut it" (:-) for the price?
Happy Friday, FOG!?
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Re: Scoring Blade Durability
I’ve been very satisfied with my Kanefusa main plywood blade and scoring blade. ?The cut quality has been suburb I read oak plywood as well as other species. ?The only drawback is the two blade minimum order. ?I may be interested in splitting the order if you’re interested. ?I’m using mine in a K700P saw
John Adank
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On Mar 18, 2022, at 12:45 PM, Brett Wissel <Brettwissel@...> wrote:
? Scoring blade is clearing a clean surface and saving the junk from eating your main blade - doing its job! Oh yeah, and mitigating splintering... On Fri, Mar 18, 2022, 10:20 AM mac campshure via <mac512002= [email protected]> wrote: I run 6” tapered Designing and building for 50 years ?I have only had scoring blade for few yrs and only used plywood a few times. Blade came with the saw and had the dipped covering on it, as they sometimes do after sharpening.
Point is, I have cleaned it at least 3 times with very little use. It gets covered with crap (I assume adhesives) very quickly and sometimes will have burning smell but wood is not burned. Recently, on birch ply, it cut clean with no splintering, so makes me think it is not dull.
Another clue is that I can feel it pushing the material fwd at initial contact. I think I have it about 1/16” high. I use clamps most of the times and only felt this when I did some ripping recently.
If I wanted to try another blade should I get Felder offering or are there better ones.
Regards,
Imran
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Re: Scoring Blade Durability
Scoring blade is clearing a clean surface and saving the junk from eating your main blade - doing its job! Oh yeah, and mitigating splintering...
On Fri, Mar 18, 2022, 10:20 AM mac campshure via <mac512002= [email protected]> wrote: I run 6” tapered Designing and building for 50 years ?I have only had scoring blade for few yrs and only used plywood a few times. Blade came with the saw and had the dipped covering on it, as they sometimes do after sharpening.
Point is, I have cleaned it at least 3 times with very little use. It gets covered with crap (I assume adhesives) very quickly and sometimes will have burning smell but wood is not burned. Recently, on birch ply, it cut clean with no splintering, so makes me think it is not dull.
Another clue is that I can feel it pushing the material fwd at initial contact. I think I have it about 1/16” high. I use clamps most of the times and only felt this when I did some ripping recently.
If I wanted to try another blade should I get Felder offering or are there better ones.
Regards,
Imran
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Re: Scoring Blade Durability
I run 6” tapered Designing and building for 50 years
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On Mar 18, 2022, at 10:09 AM, imranindiana <imranindiana@...> wrote:
?I have only had scoring blade for few yrs and only used plywood a few times. Blade came with the saw and had the dipped covering on it, as they sometimes do after sharpening.
Point is, I have cleaned it at least 3 times with very little use. It gets covered with crap (I assume adhesives) very quickly and sometimes will have burning smell but wood is not burned. Recently, on birch ply, it cut clean with no splintering, so makes me think it is not dull.
Another clue is that I can feel it pushing the material fwd at initial contact. I think I have it about 1/16” high. I use clamps most of the times and only felt this when I did some ripping recently.
If I wanted to try another blade should I get Felder offering or are there better ones.
Regards,
Imran
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