Re: K3 Winner / Sliding Table Saws
Ray,
Where are you located?? If you are in Southern California, I would be happy to host you for an afternoon.
PK
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K3 Winner / Sliding Table Saws
?So several years back I bought a K3 Winner and a A3-31 (Home Hobbiest here).? I use to have a Delta Contractor Table Saw before and thought I would move to a Slider for safety and because I wasn't sold on the Saw Stop (Still not 100% Sold on it)?
?Anyways for the last several years the K3 hasn't been used much as there aren't a whole lot of resources out there on using it or jigs.? I'm not contemplating getting another American style saw (PM 2000b or a Saw Stop ICS) I want to give the K3 another chance before I pull the plug on it.?
Outside of here is there forms or youtube channels or anything that will help me learn to use this better?? I'm in the USA and there just isn't a whole lot of information out there that I can find.
Appreciate it.
Ray
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Re: Hammer K3 scoring unit
Jared,
I have been told by Felder that the start button needs to be held momentarily until the tool has reached full speed. While this is almost instantaneous on the saw when only running with a single blade, it takes ? longer ? on the J/P or on the spindle (more mass).
It is different than what I was accustomed to on my old machines, which had start capacitors.
Regards,
Jacques
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Re: Hammer K3 scoring unit
Thanks, everyone, for your comments on my K3 scoring unit issue.
Felder is sending me a new belt. I didn't realize that the belt for
the K3 scoring unit is so finicky. I'll take care to treat it
gingerly. And, I'll likely buy a few spare belts.
JH
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On Thu, Jan 27, 2022 at 11:55 AM Jared Leach <leach.jared@...> wrote:
Speaking of that. I assumed that there¡¯s a slow start on my A3-41, as it takes a good 3-5 seconds to get up to speed. Is that normal?
On Thu, Jan 27, 2022 at 11:18 AM Mark Foster <mfsta2lt@...> wrote:
It¡¯s the same kid they use to install capacitors on the A3-31.
Mark
On Jan 27, 2022, at 8:39 AM, Cliff Rohrabacher, Esq. via groups.io <rohrabacher@...> wrote:
it's the belt. They used some child on take your toddler to work day to
design it
On 1/26/22 9:19 PM, John Huelsenbeck wrote:
Hi All,
I received my Hammer K3 sliding table saw almost two weeks ago. I
used made a few cuts with the scoring blade within a few days of
setting up the saw, and was happy with the results.
Today, I was setting up to cut some plywood and I realized that it is
no longer working (the scoring blade does not spin when the saw is
powered up, as it should.
Does anyone have an idea of what I should do? Is there an easy fix?
Thanks,
JH
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University of California, Berkeley
Berkeley, CA 94720
(510) 502-5887
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Re: Hammer K3 scoring unit
Speaking of that. I assumed that there¡¯s a slow start on my A3-41, as it takes a good 3-5 seconds to get up to speed. Is that normal?
On Thu, Jan 27, 2022 at 11:18 AM Mark Foster < mfsta2lt@...> wrote: It¡¯s the same kid they use to install capacitors on the A3-31.
Mark
> On Jan 27, 2022, at 8:39 AM, Cliff Rohrabacher, Esq. via <rohrabacher=[email protected]> wrote:
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> it's the belt. They used? some child on take your toddler to work day to
> design it
>
> On 1/26/22 9:19 PM, John Huelsenbeck wrote:
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I received? my Hammer K3 sliding table saw almost two weeks ago. I
>> used made a few cuts with the scoring blade within a few days of
>> setting up the saw, and was happy with the results.
>>
>> Today, I was setting up to cut some plywood and I realized that it is
>> no longer working (the scoring blade does not spin when the saw is
>> powered up, as it should.
>>
>> Does anyone have an idea of what I should do? Is there an easy fix?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> JH
>>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: Hammer K3 scoring unit
It¡¯s the same kid they use to install capacitors on the A3-31.
Mark
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On Jan 27, 2022, at 8:39 AM, Cliff Rohrabacher, Esq. via groups.io <rohrabacher@...> wrote:
it's the belt. They used some child on take your toddler to work day to
design it
On 1/26/22 9:19 PM, John Huelsenbeck wrote:
Hi All,
I received my Hammer K3 sliding table saw almost two weeks ago. I
used made a few cuts with the scoring blade within a few days of
setting up the saw, and was happy with the results.
Today, I was setting up to cut some plywood and I realized that it is
no longer working (the scoring blade does not spin when the saw is
powered up, as it should.
Does anyone have an idea of what I should do? Is there an easy fix?
Thanks,
JH
--
Mark Foster
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The ACM 640 or older Centauro 600 over the FB 610.? While the ACM resawmaster might have a stiff frame, I don't like the wide wheel designed for a 2" blade.? 2" isn't necessary and it moves the blade farther out on the spindles.? The older MM-Centauro 16 or
20" were good resaw machines with a small footprint.? I'd want 24" in the heavier ACM saws unless MM has beefed them up in the smaller sizes.? Dave
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no, no NO !???
If you have the space for the 610 - get it.?? Otherwise get the 510.? It's the apples to apples saw for the resaw master.
Laguna has no peer if you're in to customer no-service.? They're all buddy buddy before the sale but after ? ? ??? Their sales weasel mentality is on display here.? RSM only meant to take a 2" blade ??? WTF ??? It doesn't have the capability
to properly tension a 2" carbide blade.? It ain't gonna do curves very well with a 3/4" min. blade width but you don't care about that.? Rick is ignorant, mis-informed, fibbing, or stoopid.? None of which are attributes.
ACM is making that saw for Laguna.
The only significance a 2" blade has over 1-1/4" in your case is bragging rights. ? Are you under the impression another +3/4" width is going to give you a faster or superior cut ? ? The only real plus I see Laguna having over Felder is the Baldor
motor.?? And that's not enough for me to put up with the rest of the Laguna hassle.
You should also consider a MiniMax - SCM saw.
D
On Thursday, January 27, 2022, 09:22:39 AM EST, tom@... <tom@...> wrote:
I had been looking at a FB610 for my ripping saw, but I came across the Laguna LT18 Resaw Master and I think it might be the perfect fit for my needs, but wanted to defer to the wisdom of the Group.?
Laguna LT18 Resaw Master:??
The appeal to me of this machine is that it fulfills my wish for a capable ripping/resaw machine in a relatively compact package. I spoke with Rick down at Laguna and he said that the saw is really only meant to take a 2" blade, and that anything smaller would
require a lot of fussing. So, it's going to be a "one trick pony", but since that'd what I'm after it shouldn't be a problem, right??
Ultimately, I suppose my questions to the group are:
-- Is there a significant advantage to acquiring a machine that can pull a 2" blade, compared to a more "standard" machine that would pull, say, a 1-1/4" blade? Again, I'm after a dedicated ripping machine, so the 2" capacity appeals to me, but I wonder if
"more" somehow doesn't translate to "better" in this situation??
-- I heard that Laguna had developed a horrendous reputation for poor or nonexistent support awhile back, but it was my understanding that there was a shakeup in Management a few years ago and that things have improved since then. Does anybody have any input
or knowledge on the current state of affairs there??
Thank you in advance for any input.?
--
Tom Gensmer
Heritage Home Renewals, LLC
Minneapolis, MN
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Re: Hammer K3 scoring unit
it's the belt. They used? some child on take your toddler to work day to
design it
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On 1/26/22 9:19 PM, John Huelsenbeck wrote: Hi All,
I received my Hammer K3 sliding table saw almost two weeks ago. I
used made a few cuts with the scoring blade within a few days of
setting up the saw, and was happy with the results.
Today, I was setting up to cut some plywood and I realized that it is
no longer working (the scoring blade does not spin when the saw is
powered up, as it should.
Does anyone have an idea of what I should do? Is there an easy fix?
Thanks,
JH
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Thanks for the clarification on the manufacture of those saws.? Steve Lyde
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On Jan 27, 2022, at 10:06 AM, David Sabo via groups.io <sabo_dave@...> wrote:
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LT16 & 18 have never been made by SCM.??
SCM / MiniMax saws until just recently have been produced by Centauro for SCM.?? The LT saws are from ACM out of Italy - except for very early models which were fabricated by Meber.
D
On Thursday, January 27, 2022, 10:57:10 AM EST, Steve Lyde via groups.io <stlyde@...> wrote:
I have a Laguna LT16 which I mostly use for resaw work and I can say it¡¯s a great machine. ?My understanding is the LT16 and 18 are actually made by SCM in Italy but I could be wrong on that. Anyone know for sure? Steve Lyde On Jan 27, 2022, at 9:44 AM, john adank <lseap107@...> wrote:
?
I¡¯m also interested in this conversation as I want to upgrade my 14¡± Delta and purchase a new 14¡± saw with larger table and better guides. ?I would also like to purchase an additional bandsaw just for re-sawing. ?I¡¯ve looked at the Laguna 14bx for smaller work as well as the LT18 Resaw Master for larger projects. ?I¡¯m also considering the Minimax S440P or old MM16. ?I¡¯ve spoken to Sam Blasco of Minimax a few times about this saw. ?It¡¯s well made but I wish it had an adjustable height fence. ?He has an older outdated video on this saw and it looks quite versatile for re-sawing and curved/scroll work.
John Adank Onalaska, WI On Jan 27, 2022, at 9:05 AM, Brett Wissel <Brettwissel@...> wrote:
? Tom,?
I ordered a handful of small parts for ceramic guides that took over 6 months to receive in multiple deliveries. It was a painful experience. I'm convinced Laguna is a well oiled import machine, but not convinced they are really a "services after the sale" kind of company. Furthermore, I think I went through this process and looked at the same machine? a few years back and at that time they had availability issues, nothing in the warehouse to sell at the time, and I couldn't find anyone who owned one to reference an opinion. I will also say as I have learned, 5hp is the minimum I'd consider for any substantial resawing quantities. I have? a contact that bought an LT24 used/auction and immediately determined the 5 hp to be junk and mounted a 10hp in its place because it was the biggest that he could fit. On Thu, Jan 27, 2022 at 8:22 AM < tom@...> wrote: Resurrecting this thread to pose the following question:?
I currently have a Laguna LT14SUV (14" Asian-made machine, 14" resaw, 3 hp motor) that I'd like to set up just for curved work, and adding a second band saw that I'd use as a dedicated ripping machine. I'm running a one-person operation and seem to be specializing in taking on small, one-off jobs, working directly with clients or serving as back-up for other local shops. I'm currently in a ~700 sq-ft Shop, so space is a bit of an issue (likely prevents the 30"+ machines), but it's possible I could sneak in a 24" machine.?
I had been looking at a FB610 for my ripping saw, but I came across the Laguna LT18 Resaw Master and I think it might be the perfect fit for my needs, but wanted to defer to the wisdom of the Group.?
Laguna LT18 Resaw Master:??
Highlights:
-- Leeson 5hp motor, available in 3-phase
-- Italian-made, not sure who though (likely ACM?)
-- 18" resaw height
-- Uses the Laguna ceramic guides
-- Cost is comparable to a FB610
-- Accepts a 2" blade
The appeal to me of this machine is that it fulfills my wish for a capable ripping/resaw machine in a relatively compact package. I spoke with Rick down at Laguna and he said that the saw is really only meant to take a 2" blade, and that anything smaller would require a lot of fussing. So, it's going to be a "one trick pony", but since that'd what I'm after it shouldn't be a problem, right??
Ultimately, I suppose my questions to the group are:
-- Is there a significant advantage to acquiring a machine that can pull a 2" blade, compared to a more "standard" machine that would pull, say, a 1-1/4" blade? Again, I'm after a dedicated ripping machine, so the 2" capacity appeals to me, but I wonder if "more" somehow doesn't translate to "better" in this situation??
-- I heard that Laguna had developed a horrendous reputation for poor or nonexistent support awhile back, but it was my understanding that there was a shakeup in Management a few years ago and that things have improved since then. Does anybody have any input or knowledge on the current state of affairs there??
Thank you in advance for any input.?
--
Tom Gensmer
Heritage Home Renewals, LLC
Minneapolis, MN
-- Brett Wissel Saint Louis Restoration 1831 S Kingshighway Blvd (at Shaw Blvd) St Louis, MO 63110 314.772.2167 brett@...
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LT16 & 18 have never been made by SCM.??
SCM / MiniMax saws until just recently have been produced by Centauro for SCM.?? The LT saws are from ACM out of Italy - except for very early models which were fabricated by Meber.
D
On Thursday, January 27, 2022, 10:57:10 AM EST, Steve Lyde via groups.io <stlyde@...> wrote:
I have a Laguna LT16 which I mostly use for resaw work and I can say it¡¯s a great machine. ?My understanding is the LT16 and 18 are actually made by SCM in Italy but I could be wrong on that. Anyone know for sure? Steve Lyde On Jan 27, 2022, at 9:44 AM, john adank <lseap107@...> wrote:
?
I¡¯m also interested in this conversation as I want to upgrade my 14¡± Delta and purchase a new 14¡± saw with larger table and better guides. ?I would also like to purchase an additional bandsaw just for re-sawing. ?I¡¯ve looked at the Laguna 14bx for smaller work as well as the LT18 Resaw Master for larger projects. ?I¡¯m also considering the Minimax S440P or old MM16. ?I¡¯ve spoken to Sam Blasco of Minimax a few times about this saw. ?It¡¯s well made but I wish it had an adjustable height fence. ?He has an older outdated video on this saw and it looks quite versatile for re-sawing and curved/scroll work.
John Adank Onalaska, WI On Jan 27, 2022, at 9:05 AM, Brett Wissel <Brettwissel@...> wrote:
? Tom,?
I ordered a handful of small parts for ceramic guides that took over 6 months to receive in multiple deliveries. It was a painful experience. I'm convinced Laguna is a well oiled import machine, but not convinced they are really a "services after the sale" kind of company. Furthermore, I think I went through this process and looked at the same machine? a few years back and at that time they had availability issues, nothing in the warehouse to sell at the time, and I couldn't find anyone who owned one to reference an opinion. I will also say as I have learned, 5hp is the minimum I'd consider for any substantial resawing quantities. I have? a contact that bought an LT24 used/auction and immediately determined the 5 hp to be junk and mounted a 10hp in its place because it was the biggest that he could fit. On Thu, Jan 27, 2022 at 8:22 AM < tom@...> wrote: Resurrecting this thread to pose the following question:?
I currently have a Laguna LT14SUV (14" Asian-made machine, 14" resaw, 3 hp motor) that I'd like to set up just for curved work, and adding a second band saw that I'd use as a dedicated ripping machine. I'm running a one-person operation and seem to be specializing in taking on small, one-off jobs, working directly with clients or serving as back-up for other local shops. I'm currently in a ~700 sq-ft Shop, so space is a bit of an issue (likely prevents the 30"+ machines), but it's possible I could sneak in a 24" machine.?
I had been looking at a FB610 for my ripping saw, but I came across the Laguna LT18 Resaw Master and I think it might be the perfect fit for my needs, but wanted to defer to the wisdom of the Group.?
Laguna LT18 Resaw Master:??
Highlights:
-- Leeson 5hp motor, available in 3-phase
-- Italian-made, not sure who though (likely ACM?)
-- 18" resaw height
-- Uses the Laguna ceramic guides
-- Cost is comparable to a FB610
-- Accepts a 2" blade
The appeal to me of this machine is that it fulfills my wish for a capable ripping/resaw machine in a relatively compact package. I spoke with Rick down at Laguna and he said that the saw is really only meant to take a 2" blade, and that anything smaller would require a lot of fussing. So, it's going to be a "one trick pony", but since that'd what I'm after it shouldn't be a problem, right??
Ultimately, I suppose my questions to the group are:
-- Is there a significant advantage to acquiring a machine that can pull a 2" blade, compared to a more "standard" machine that would pull, say, a 1-1/4" blade? Again, I'm after a dedicated ripping machine, so the 2" capacity appeals to me, but I wonder if "more" somehow doesn't translate to "better" in this situation??
-- I heard that Laguna had developed a horrendous reputation for poor or nonexistent support awhile back, but it was my understanding that there was a shakeup in Management a few years ago and that things have improved since then. Does anybody have any input or knowledge on the current state of affairs there??
Thank you in advance for any input.?
--
Tom Gensmer
Heritage Home Renewals, LLC
Minneapolis, MN
-- Brett Wissel Saint Louis Restoration 1831 S Kingshighway Blvd (at Shaw Blvd) St Louis, MO 63110 314.772.2167 brett@...
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no, no NO !???
If you have the space for the 610 - get it.?? Otherwise get the 510.? It's the apples to apples saw for the resaw master.
Laguna has no peer if you're in to customer no-service.? They're all buddy buddy before the sale but after ? ? ??? Their sales weasel mentality is on display here.? RSM only meant to take a 2" blade ??? WTF ??? It doesn't have the capability to properly tension a 2" carbide blade.? It ain't gonna do curves very well with a 3/4" min. blade width but you don't care about that.? Rick is ignorant, mis-informed, fibbing, or stoopid.? None of which are attributes.
ACM is making that saw for Laguna.
The only significance a 2" blade has over 1-1/4" in your case is bragging rights. ? Are you under the impression another +3/4" width is going to give you a faster or superior cut ? ? The only real plus I see Laguna having over Felder is the Baldor motor.?? And that's not enough for me to put up with the rest of the Laguna hassle.
You should also consider a MiniMax - SCM saw.
D
On Thursday, January 27, 2022, 09:22:39 AM EST, tom@... <tom@...> wrote:
I had been looking at a FB610 for my ripping saw, but I came across the Laguna LT18 Resaw Master and I think it might be the perfect fit for my needs, but wanted to defer to the wisdom of the Group.?
Laguna LT18 Resaw Master:??
The appeal to me of this machine is that it fulfills my wish for a capable ripping/resaw machine in a relatively compact package. I spoke with Rick down at Laguna and he said that the saw is really only meant to take a 2" blade, and that anything smaller would require a lot of fussing. So, it's going to be a "one trick pony", but since that'd what I'm after it shouldn't be a problem, right??
Ultimately, I suppose my questions to the group are:
-- Is there a significant advantage to acquiring a machine that can pull a 2" blade, compared to a more "standard" machine that would pull, say, a 1-1/4" blade? Again, I'm after a dedicated ripping machine, so the 2" capacity appeals to me, but I wonder if "more" somehow doesn't translate to "better" in this situation??
-- I heard that Laguna had developed a horrendous reputation for poor or nonexistent support awhile back, but it was my understanding that there was a shakeup in Management a few years ago and that things have improved since then. Does anybody have any input or knowledge on the current state of affairs there??
Thank you in advance for any input.?
--
Tom Gensmer
Heritage Home Renewals, LLC
Minneapolis, MN
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I have a Laguna LT16 which I mostly use for resaw work and I can say it¡¯s a great machine. ?My understanding is the LT16 and 18 are actually made by SCM in Italy but I could be wrong on that. Anyone know for sure? Steve Lyde
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On Jan 27, 2022, at 9:44 AM, john adank <lseap107@...> wrote:
? I¡¯m also interested in this conversation as I want to upgrade my 14¡± Delta and purchase a new 14¡± saw with larger table and better guides. ?I would also like to purchase an additional bandsaw just for re-sawing. ?I¡¯ve looked at the Laguna 14bx for smaller work as well as the LT18 Resaw Master for larger projects. ?I¡¯m also considering the Minimax S440P or old MM16. ?I¡¯ve spoken to Sam Blasco of Minimax a few times about this saw. ?It¡¯s well made but I wish it had an adjustable height fence. ?He has an older outdated video on this saw and it looks quite versatile for re-sawing and curved/scroll work.
John Adank Onalaska, WI On Jan 27, 2022, at 9:05 AM, Brett Wissel <Brettwissel@...> wrote:
? Tom,?
I ordered a handful of small parts for ceramic guides that took over 6 months to receive in multiple deliveries. It was a painful experience. I'm convinced Laguna is a well oiled import machine, but not convinced they are really a "services after the sale" kind of company. Furthermore, I think I went through this process and looked at the same machine? a few years back and at that time they had availability issues, nothing in the warehouse to sell at the time, and I couldn't find anyone who owned one to reference an opinion. I will also say as I have learned, 5hp is the minimum I'd consider for any substantial resawing quantities. I have? a contact that bought an LT24 used/auction and immediately determined the 5 hp to be junk and mounted a 10hp in its place because it was the biggest that he could fit. On Thu, Jan 27, 2022 at 8:22 AM < tom@...> wrote: Resurrecting this thread to pose the following question:?
I currently have a Laguna LT14SUV (14" Asian-made machine, 14" resaw, 3 hp motor) that I'd like to set up just for curved work, and adding a second band saw that I'd use as a dedicated ripping machine. I'm running a one-person operation and seem to be specializing in taking on small, one-off jobs, working directly with clients or serving as back-up for other local shops. I'm currently in a ~700 sq-ft Shop, so space is a bit of an issue (likely prevents the 30"+ machines), but it's possible I could sneak in a 24" machine.?
I had been looking at a FB610 for my ripping saw, but I came across the Laguna LT18 Resaw Master and I think it might be the perfect fit for my needs, but wanted to defer to the wisdom of the Group.?
Laguna LT18 Resaw Master:??
Highlights:
-- Leeson 5hp motor, available in 3-phase
-- Italian-made, not sure who though (likely ACM?)
-- 18" resaw height
-- Uses the Laguna ceramic guides
-- Cost is comparable to a FB610
-- Accepts a 2" blade
The appeal to me of this machine is that it fulfills my wish for a capable ripping/resaw machine in a relatively compact package. I spoke with Rick down at Laguna and he said that the saw is really only meant to take a 2" blade, and that anything smaller would require a lot of fussing. So, it's going to be a "one trick pony", but since that'd what I'm after it shouldn't be a problem, right??
Ultimately, I suppose my questions to the group are:
-- Is there a significant advantage to acquiring a machine that can pull a 2" blade, compared to a more "standard" machine that would pull, say, a 1-1/4" blade? Again, I'm after a dedicated ripping machine, so the 2" capacity appeals to me, but I wonder if "more" somehow doesn't translate to "better" in this situation??
-- I heard that Laguna had developed a horrendous reputation for poor or nonexistent support awhile back, but it was my understanding that there was a shakeup in Management a few years ago and that things have improved since then. Does anybody have any input or knowledge on the current state of affairs there??
Thank you in advance for any input.?
--
Tom Gensmer
Heritage Home Renewals, LLC
Minneapolis, MN
-- Brett Wissel Saint Louis Restoration 1831 S Kingshighway Blvd (at Shaw Blvd) St Louis, MO 63110 314.772.2167 brett@...
|
I¡¯m also interested in this conversation as I want to upgrade my 14¡± Delta and purchase a new 14¡± saw with larger table and better guides. ?I would also like to purchase an additional bandsaw just for re-sawing. ?I¡¯ve looked at the Laguna 14bx for smaller work as well as the LT18 Resaw Master for larger projects. ?I¡¯m also considering the Minimax S440P or old MM16. ?I¡¯ve spoken to Sam Blasco of Minimax a few times about this saw. ?It¡¯s well made but I wish it had an adjustable height fence. ?He has an older outdated video on this saw and it looks quite versatile for re-sawing and curved/scroll work.
John Adank
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On Jan 27, 2022, at 9:05 AM, Brett Wissel <Brettwissel@...> wrote:
? Tom,?
I ordered a handful of small parts for ceramic guides that took over 6 months to receive in multiple deliveries. It was a painful experience. I'm convinced Laguna is a well oiled import machine, but not convinced they are really a "services after the sale" kind of company. Furthermore, I think I went through this process and looked at the same machine? a few years back and at that time they had availability issues, nothing in the warehouse to sell at the time, and I couldn't find anyone who owned one to reference an opinion. I will also say as I have learned, 5hp is the minimum I'd consider for any substantial resawing quantities. I have? a contact that bought an LT24 used/auction and immediately determined the 5 hp to be junk and mounted a 10hp in its place because it was the biggest that he could fit. On Thu, Jan 27, 2022 at 8:22 AM < tom@...> wrote: Resurrecting this thread to pose the following question:?
I currently have a Laguna LT14SUV (14" Asian-made machine, 14" resaw, 3 hp motor) that I'd like to set up just for curved work, and adding a second band saw that I'd use as a dedicated ripping machine. I'm running a one-person operation and seem to be specializing in taking on small, one-off jobs, working directly with clients or serving as back-up for other local shops. I'm currently in a ~700 sq-ft Shop, so space is a bit of an issue (likely prevents the 30"+ machines), but it's possible I could sneak in a 24" machine.?
I had been looking at a FB610 for my ripping saw, but I came across the Laguna LT18 Resaw Master and I think it might be the perfect fit for my needs, but wanted to defer to the wisdom of the Group.?
Laguna LT18 Resaw Master:??
Highlights:
-- Leeson 5hp motor, available in 3-phase
-- Italian-made, not sure who though (likely ACM?)
-- 18" resaw height
-- Uses the Laguna ceramic guides
-- Cost is comparable to a FB610
-- Accepts a 2" blade
The appeal to me of this machine is that it fulfills my wish for a capable ripping/resaw machine in a relatively compact package. I spoke with Rick down at Laguna and he said that the saw is really only meant to take a 2" blade, and that anything smaller would require a lot of fussing. So, it's going to be a "one trick pony", but since that'd what I'm after it shouldn't be a problem, right??
Ultimately, I suppose my questions to the group are:
-- Is there a significant advantage to acquiring a machine that can pull a 2" blade, compared to a more "standard" machine that would pull, say, a 1-1/4" blade? Again, I'm after a dedicated ripping machine, so the 2" capacity appeals to me, but I wonder if "more" somehow doesn't translate to "better" in this situation??
-- I heard that Laguna had developed a horrendous reputation for poor or nonexistent support awhile back, but it was my understanding that there was a shakeup in Management a few years ago and that things have improved since then. Does anybody have any input or knowledge on the current state of affairs there??
Thank you in advance for any input.?
--
Tom Gensmer
Heritage Home Renewals, LLC
Minneapolis, MN
-- Brett Wissel Saint Louis Restoration 1831 S Kingshighway Blvd (at Shaw Blvd) St Louis, MO 63110 314.772.2167 brett@...
|
Tom,?
I ordered a handful of small parts for ceramic guides that took over 6 months to receive in multiple deliveries. It was a painful experience. I'm convinced Laguna is a well oiled import machine, but not convinced they are really a "services after the sale" kind of company. Furthermore, I think I went through this process and looked at the same machine? a few years back and at that time they had availability issues, nothing in the warehouse to sell at the time, and I couldn't find anyone who owned one to reference an opinion. I will also say as I have learned, 5hp is the minimum I'd consider for any substantial resawing quantities. I have? a contact that bought an LT24 used/auction and immediately determined the 5 hp to be junk and mounted a 10hp in its place because it was the biggest that he could fit.
On Thu, Jan 27, 2022 at 8:22 AM < tom@...> wrote: Resurrecting this thread to pose the following question:?
I currently have a Laguna LT14SUV (14" Asian-made machine, 14" resaw, 3 hp motor) that I'd like to set up just for curved work, and adding a second band saw that I'd use as a dedicated ripping machine. I'm running a one-person operation and seem to be specializing in taking on small, one-off jobs, working directly with clients or serving as back-up for other local shops. I'm currently in a ~700 sq-ft Shop, so space is a bit of an issue (likely prevents the 30"+ machines), but it's possible I could sneak in a 24" machine.?
I had been looking at a FB610 for my ripping saw, but I came across the Laguna LT18 Resaw Master and I think it might be the perfect fit for my needs, but wanted to defer to the wisdom of the Group.?
Laguna LT18 Resaw Master:??
Highlights:
-- Leeson 5hp motor, available in 3-phase
-- Italian-made, not sure who though (likely ACM?)
-- 18" resaw height
-- Uses the Laguna ceramic guides
-- Cost is comparable to a FB610
-- Accepts a 2" blade
The appeal to me of this machine is that it fulfills my wish for a capable ripping/resaw machine in a relatively compact package. I spoke with Rick down at Laguna and he said that the saw is really only meant to take a 2" blade, and that anything smaller would require a lot of fussing. So, it's going to be a "one trick pony", but since that'd what I'm after it shouldn't be a problem, right??
Ultimately, I suppose my questions to the group are:
-- Is there a significant advantage to acquiring a machine that can pull a 2" blade, compared to a more "standard" machine that would pull, say, a 1-1/4" blade? Again, I'm after a dedicated ripping machine, so the 2" capacity appeals to me, but I wonder if "more" somehow doesn't translate to "better" in this situation??
-- I heard that Laguna had developed a horrendous reputation for poor or nonexistent support awhile back, but it was my understanding that there was a shakeup in Management a few years ago and that things have improved since then. Does anybody have any input or knowledge on the current state of affairs there??
Thank you in advance for any input.?
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Tom Gensmer
Heritage Home Renewals, LLC
Minneapolis, MN
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Re: Cross cut fence zero clearance insert
#k700s
Thanks, everyone, for your helpful comments. My wish list was created to save time. Now, I realize it would take more time (and money) to source most of them than to make them or make due.
- I will fill the gaps on my heat-shrunk 4" elbow for the overhead guard and ignore it.
- Last night I "machined" slider inserts with a hand plane using a scrap of 150-yr-old oak (very hard and stable).
- I'll continue using hose for the shaper duct, similar to Bill's picture.?
This leaves the zero-clearance throat plate. I'm tired of pulling slivers of wood out of the ducts when they get sucked in, and I don't want to dedicate the time to making the throat plate. I wonder if something other than the $82 Felder () is available. Since John Renzetti's email was omitted and I have a KF700S (not a K940), I'm still looking.
Thanks again,
Mike
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Resurrecting this thread to pose the following question:?
I currently have a Laguna LT14SUV (14" Asian-made machine, 14" resaw, 3 hp motor) that I'd like to set up just for curved work, and adding a second band saw that I'd use as a dedicated ripping machine. I'm running a one-person operation and seem to be specializing in taking on small, one-off jobs, working directly with clients or serving as back-up for other local shops. I'm currently in a ~700 sq-ft Shop, so space is a bit of an issue (likely prevents the 30"+ machines), but it's possible I could sneak in a 24" machine.?
I had been looking at a FB610 for my ripping saw, but I came across the Laguna LT18 Resaw Master and I think it might be the perfect fit for my needs, but wanted to defer to the wisdom of the Group.?
Laguna LT18 Resaw Master:??
Highlights:
-- Leeson 5hp motor, available in 3-phase
-- Italian-made, not sure who though (likely ACM?)
-- 18" resaw height
-- Uses the Laguna ceramic guides
-- Cost is comparable to a FB610
-- Accepts a 2" blade
The appeal to me of this machine is that it fulfills my wish for a capable ripping/resaw machine in a relatively compact package. I spoke with Rick down at Laguna and he said that the saw is really only meant to take a 2" blade, and that anything smaller would require a lot of fussing. So, it's going to be a "one trick pony", but since that'd what I'm after it shouldn't be a problem, right??
Ultimately, I suppose my questions to the group are:
-- Is there a significant advantage to acquiring a machine that can pull a 2" blade, compared to a more "standard" machine that would pull, say, a 1-1/4" blade? Again, I'm after a dedicated ripping machine, so the 2" capacity appeals to me, but I wonder if "more" somehow doesn't translate to "better" in this situation??
-- I heard that Laguna had developed a horrendous reputation for poor or nonexistent support awhile back, but it was my understanding that there was a shakeup in Management a few years ago and that things have improved since then. Does anybody have any input or knowledge on the current state of affairs there??
Thank you in advance for any input.?
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Tom Gensmer
Heritage Home Renewals, LLC
Minneapolis, MN
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100%. Could throw the package off the roof of a semi going 75 down the highway and it would survive.
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Re: Short Crosscut Fence Usage on 10' Sliders
Thanks everyone. Best I can tell, the small fence is convenient at times, but isn't necessary. Swapping it between saw and shaper isn't a big deal for the small number of times you might do it. I'll get some extra T nuts.
David, I've read about the fence inaccuracies over the years and followed the discussion as you were developing the upgrade. I plan to add the tenoning plate. Cabinet doors are probably going to make up a majority of the work. I purchased Mac's horizontal clamp right after he released it. Your video is what prompted me to add it.?
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Re: Hammer K3 scoring unit
If something snags your scoring blade such that it doesn't turn, the belt will break fairly quickly. Check the inside of the cabinet floor to see if it's there or feel around the back to see if it's loose on the pulleys. A new one from Felder is fairly quick. But if you use it a lot (I don't), best to have a spare on hand. It's much easier to replace with the main blade fully up or fully down. I don't remember which.
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-- Measure it with a micrometer, mark it with chalk, cut it with a Hammer
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