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Re: Tersa Replacement Blades

 

Thanks all for your feedback. I placed order on Friday with


and received them on Monday. That is awesome delivery time considering they are in Canada. Knives were well packaged. They followed up today via email to check if I was satisfied. I have not tried the knives yet but extremely satisfied with this outfit.

Imran


Re: New K940S issues

 

Hmmmm, this has me concerned I ordered a k700s for delivery this summer and considered the onsite calibration but sales guy said these come in dialed in for the most part.? Reading through this thread I am reconsidering cost for onsite was $1,400. I am new to sliders, expectations are high I don't want that to go from excited to totally disappointed in a few hours. The forums thoughts for onsite calibration as part of delivery?


Re: Boring techniques and jigs for passage doors

 

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I use chain or oscillating chisel and set the lock set before assembly in stile only including stile taper for american style doors.
Mac,,,

martin/campshure/co/llc
mac campshure
7412 elmwood ave.
middleton, wi 53562-3106
608-332-2330?cell

Designing and building for 50 years


On Mar 8, 2021, at 7:56 PM, imranindiana via groups.io <imranindiana@...> wrote:

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Chris,

Thanks for the link. I will look if my kit has a center marker.

Imran

On Mar 8, 2021, at 3:55 PM, Chris Perren <cperren@...> wrote:

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Hi Imran

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I believe the kits are similar with one have some router templates.? You can buy the templates a la carte too .? The support page has good information.? Check out the below links.

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https://www.templaco.com/html/SupportDocs.asp

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Regards,

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Chris

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of imranindiana via groups.io
Sent: Monday, March 8, 2021 2:09 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [FOG] Boring techniques and jigs for passage doors

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Hi Tom,

Those are some nice features. Your Templaco is diff than what Chris shared.

If you get time can you share the part of instructions that explain transferring location from door to jamb? I did not get any instructions with my used kwikset, so maybe I have this feature but not aware of it. No hurries.

Imran


Re: Boring techniques and jigs for passage doors

 

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I am glad I started it too. ?Thanks everyone for your ideas and input.

Michael


On Mar 8, 2021, at 9:31 PM, imranindiana via <imranindiana@...> wrote:

I am glad Michael started this thread. With Chris¡¯s link I learned what to look for. Lo and behold, I have a center marking widget in my kwikset kit. It is black so it kindof disappeared in the black plastic molded insert until I yanked on it. Got a shiny silver tip. Probably never been used.

Thanks guys.

Imran?

On Mar 8, 2021, at 8:56 PM, imranindiana via??<imranindiana@...> wrote:

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Chris,

Thanks for the link. I will look if my kit has a center marker.

Imran

On Mar 8, 2021, at 3:55 PM, Chris Perren <cperren@...> wrote:

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Hi Imran
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I believe the kits are similar with one have some router templates.? You can buy the templates a la carte too .? The support page has good information.? Check out the below links.
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Regards,
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Chris
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From:?[email protected]?<[email protected]>?On Behalf Of?imranindiana via?
Sent:?Monday, March 8, 2021 2:09 PM
To:?[email protected]
Subject:?Re: [FOG] Boring techniques and jigs for passage doors
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Hi Tom,

Those are some nice features. Your Templaco is diff than what Chris shared.

If you get time can you share the part of instructions that explain transferring location from door to jamb? I did not get any instructions with my used kwikset, so maybe I have this feature but not aware of it. No hurries.

Imran



Re: Purchasing an exact 63 want to discuss options

 

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Hi Richard,?
Segmented steel infeed and chip breaker and smooth steel for out feed, no screwing around approach.
Mac,,,

martin/campshure/co/llc
mac campshure
7412 elmwood ave.
middleton, wi 53562-3106
608-332-2330?cell

Designing and building for 50 years


On Mar 9, 2021, at 2:43 AM, david@... via groups.io <david@...> wrote:

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Hi Richard,

Rubber infeed rollers are a good idea when two conditions exist: ?1) you¡¯re working with soft woods that would ¡°dent¡± under pressure from a serrated infeed roller, and 2) you¡¯re working with really thin dimensional material (under ?¡±). ?I do this kind of work myself - making soundboards for harpsichords out of sitka spruce (soft) with a thickness of 3.5mm. ?For this I need rubber on infeed and outfeed side. ?

If you don¡¯t ever expect to do this type of work (making classical guitar bodies, violins, ukuleles, etc.) you should stick with a steel infeed roller. ?A rubber outfeed roller is helpful if you¡¯re doing any species of hardwood to under 5mm thickness - it will control the flutter of the material better. ?And on thicker material, the rubber outfeed roller will conform to the wood thickness to pull it through straight and without skewing the stock to an angle.

Rubber rollers (either side of the cutter) are a wear item. ?On the infeed side, the leading corner of material pushed into the roller will slightly chew up the rubber before ?it is grabbed and pushed into the cutter. ?Over time, the roller ends up full of score lines and will need to be recovered with fresh material. ? Here¡¯s are examples of what dimensioning cabinets door stiles/rails on edge will do to the infeed roller over time. ?
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They are easy enough to get recovered. ?The cost on my Dual 51 to recover both rollers is about $450 and turnaround time is about a week. ??I recover the rollers with polyurethane, not latex rubber. ?Poly has more grip and will not glaze over nearly as quickly as rubber (same is true for power feeder tires). ?If you¡¯re doing mostly hardwood, the a 70 or 80 durometer density is appropriate. ?If mostly softwoods, I would back down to 60 durometer and expect to have to recover the roller more often. ?

Hope this helps.

David Best

https://www.instagram.com/davidpbest/





On Mar 8, 2021, at 4:44 PM, Richard Haislip <innovativebuildingservicesllc@...> wrote:

My Kappa 400 xmotion and profil 45z are on the way over the pond as we speak. im ready to purchase a new Jointer and planer , for the jointer i think i have it figured out im doing the A951L with the Silent power head , 10hp motor , aigner fence and power feeder prep. For the planer im doing the Exact 63 , 10hp , silent power head and digi drive and dual outfeed rollers.?

What im going back and forth on are the infeed and outfeed rollers. Segmented steel , single spiral-toothed steel , or rubber for the infeed and Sandblasted steel or rubber for the dual outfeed??

Thoughts??


Re: Purchasing an exact 63 want to discuss options

 

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Hi Richard,

Rubber infeed rollers are a good idea when two conditions exist: ?1) you¡¯re working with soft woods that would ¡°dent¡± under pressure from a serrated infeed roller, and 2) you¡¯re working with really thin dimensional material (under ?¡±). ?I do this kind of work myself - making soundboards for harpsichords out of sitka spruce (soft) with a thickness of 3.5mm. ?For this I need rubber on infeed and outfeed side. ?

If you don¡¯t ever expect to do this type of work (making classical guitar bodies, violins, ukuleles, etc.) you should stick with a steel infeed roller. ?A rubber outfeed roller is helpful if you¡¯re doing any species of hardwood to under 5mm thickness - it will control the flutter of the material better. ?And on thicker material, the rubber outfeed roller will conform to the wood thickness to pull it through straight and without skewing the stock to an angle.

Rubber rollers (either side of the cutter) are a wear item. ?On the infeed side, the leading corner of material pushed into the roller will slightly chew up the rubber before ?it is grabbed and pushed into the cutter. ?Over time, the roller ends up full of score lines and will need to be recovered with fresh material. ? Here¡¯s are examples of what dimensioning cabinets door stiles/rails on edge will do to the infeed roller over time. ?
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They are easy enough to get recovered. ?The cost on my Dual 51 to recover both rollers is about $450 and turnaround time is about a week. ??I recover the rollers with polyurethane, not latex rubber. ?Poly has more grip and will not glaze over nearly as quickly as rubber (same is true for power feeder tires). ?If you¡¯re doing mostly hardwood, the a 70 or 80 durometer density is appropriate. ?If mostly softwoods, I would back down to 60 durometer and expect to have to recover the roller more often. ?

Hope this helps.

David Best

https://www.instagram.com/davidpbest/





On Mar 8, 2021, at 4:44 PM, Richard Haislip <innovativebuildingservicesllc@...> wrote:

My Kappa 400 xmotion and profil 45z are on the way over the pond as we speak. im ready to purchase a new Jointer and planer , for the jointer i think i have it figured out im doing the A951L with the Silent power head , 10hp motor , aigner fence and power feeder prep. For the planer im doing the Exact 63 , 10hp , silent power head and digi drive and dual outfeed rollers.?

What im going back and forth on are the infeed and outfeed rollers. Segmented steel , single spiral-toothed steel , or rubber for the infeed and Sandblasted steel or rubber for the dual outfeed??

Thoughts??


Re: Purchasing an exact 63 want to discuss options

 

I have a Martin T45 with 2 x rubber outfeed rollers and a segmented indeed roller.??

The 2 x outfeed rollers are amazing.? I would order it this way again for sure.??
Segmented roller isn't mandatory .. I see the benefits of it at times but the rubber outeed rollers is the way to go.??



On Monday, March 8, 2021, Richard Haislip <innovativebuildingservicesllc@...> wrote:
My Kappa 400 xmotion and profil 45z are on the way over the pond as we speak. im ready to purchase a new Jointer and planer , for the jointer i think i have it figured out im doing the A951L with the Silent power head , 10hp motor , aigner fence and power feeder prep. For the planer im doing the Exact 63 , 10hp , silent power head and digi drive and dual outfeed rollers.?

What im going back and forth on are the infeed and outfeed rollers. Segmented steel , single spiral-toothed steel , or rubber for the infeed and Sandblasted steel or rubber for the dual outfeed??

Thoughts??


Re: Boring techniques and jigs for passage doors

 

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I am glad Michael started this thread. With Chris¡¯s link I learned what to look for. Lo and behold, I have a center marking widget in my kwikset kit. It is black so it kindof disappeared in the black plastic molded insert until I yanked on it. Got a shiny silver tip. Probably never been used.

Thanks guys.

Imran?

On Mar 8, 2021, at 8:56 PM, imranindiana via groups.io <imranindiana@...> wrote:

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Chris,

Thanks for the link. I will look if my kit has a center marker.

Imran

On Mar 8, 2021, at 3:55 PM, Chris Perren <cperren@...> wrote:

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Hi Imran

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I believe the kits are similar with one have some router templates.? You can buy the templates a la carte too .? The support page has good information.? Check out the below links.

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https://www.templaco.com/html/SupportDocs.asp

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?

Regards,

?

Chris

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of imranindiana via groups.io
Sent: Monday, March 8, 2021 2:09 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [FOG] Boring techniques and jigs for passage doors

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Hi Tom,

Those are some nice features. Your Templaco is diff than what Chris shared.

If you get time can you share the part of instructions that explain transferring location from door to jamb? I did not get any instructions with my used kwikset, so maybe I have this feature but not aware of it. No hurries.

Imran


Re: Boring techniques and jigs for passage doors

 

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Chris,

Thanks for the link. I will look if my kit has a center marker.

Imran

On Mar 8, 2021, at 3:55 PM, Chris Perren <cperren@...> wrote:

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Hi Imran

?

I believe the kits are similar with one have some router templates.? You can buy the templates a la carte too .? The support page has good information.? Check out the below links.

?

?

?

https://www.templaco.com/html/SupportDocs.asp

?

?

Regards,

?

Chris

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of imranindiana via groups.io
Sent: Monday, March 8, 2021 2:09 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [FOG] Boring techniques and jigs for passage doors

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Hi Tom,

Those are some nice features. Your Templaco is diff than what Chris shared.

If you get time can you share the part of instructions that explain transferring location from door to jamb? I did not get any instructions with my used kwikset, so maybe I have this feature but not aware of it. No hurries.

Imran


Re: Purchasing an exact 63 want to discuss options

 

Jp i placed my order in november.


Re: Purchasing an exact 63 want to discuss options

 

I also?have a Kappa 400 Xmotion on order, when did you place your order? I am expecting mine the first part of July.


Purchasing an exact 63 want to discuss options

 

My Kappa 400 xmotion and profil 45z are on the way over the pond as we speak. im ready to purchase a new Jointer and planer , for the jointer i think i have it figured out im doing the A951L with the Silent power head , 10hp motor , aigner fence and power feeder prep. For the planer im doing the Exact 63 , 10hp , silent power head and digi drive and dual outfeed rollers.?

What im going back and forth on are the infeed and outfeed rollers. Segmented steel , single spiral-toothed steel , or rubber for the infeed and Sandblasted steel or rubber for the dual outfeed??

Thoughts??


Re: New K940S issues

 

Thanks once again for all of the information guys!

David - your message was exactly what I was looking for!? I was thinking along the exact same lines, but wanted to hear it from someone with some experience.? It sounds like the stop button on the slider is not all that critical in the function of the saw.? I will tell Felder that I either want them to send a new sliding table assembly or give me some type of credit for the issue.? My gut feeling (which you confirmed) is that I do not want any technician doing field work on the sliding table rail assemblies.??

Imran - I really appreciate your willingness and interest in helping, but I agree with Mark and David that troubleshooting the problem myself is unlikely to get me anywhere.? The Felder tech spent a couple of hours with a multimeter trying to trouble shoot and didn't get anywhere.? His final analysis was that there was a short somewhere between the switch and the electrical panel.? ?


Re: Boring techniques and jigs for passage doors

 

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Hi Imran

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I believe the kits are similar with one have some router templates.? You can buy the templates a la carte too .? The support page has good information.? Check out the below links.

?

?

?

https://www.templaco.com/html/SupportDocs.asp

?

?

Regards,

?

Chris

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of imranindiana via groups.io
Sent: Monday, March 8, 2021 2:09 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [FOG] Boring techniques and jigs for passage doors

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Hi Tom,

Those are some nice features. Your Templaco is diff than what Chris shared.

If you get time can you share the part of instructions that explain transferring location from door to jamb? I did not get any instructions with my used kwikset, so maybe I have this feature but not aware of it. No hurries.

Imran


Re: Boring techniques and jigs for passage doors

 

Hi Tom,

Those are some nice features. Your Templaco is diff than what Chris shared.

If you get time can you share the part of instructions that explain transferring location from door to jamb? I did not get any instructions with my used kwikset, so maybe I have this feature but not aware of it. No hurries.

Imran


Re: Boring techniques and jigs for passage doors

 

+1 on the Templaco boring jig. ?

I install a fair number of doors, and it's really nice to just roll up, make one mark, clamp, bore, remove assembly, install handle, route for the plates using the supplied templates, and get on with my life.?

The advantage of the Templaco kit is that, in addition to the cast iron drilling template and carbide-tipped drill bits, it also includes routing templates for the handle, dead bolt, strike, and a marking point for transferring locations from the door to the jamb. Once you've marked the handle location, the rest is more or less "automated". Yes, it's $500, but in my opinion you get a lot of kit for that price.?

That being said, if you're performing the work as a hobby, then yes marking each location has worked well for generations, it's just much slower.?
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Tom Gensmer
Heritage Home Renewals, LLC
Minneapolis, MN


Re: Router Spindle Compatibility with 240 Hood

 

I modified my 240 hood so I could get to the center line with the Aigner plates. Before the mod I would use the Felder fence plates with the router.

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of imranindiana via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, March 6, 2021 10:36 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [FOG] Router Spindle Compatibility with 240 Hood

Guys just piddling around in shop and it occurred to me to check how far back my fence plates go. When I mount the hood in the rear set of holes, the fence plates actually sits behind the centerline of the spindle.



I thought a modification to the micro adjust was required for this. So is it possible that all KF700 are not same?

I know that Aigner fence plates are thicker and from posts definitely sit proud of the spindle center line but I am pretty sure I read here that even felder stock fence plates were also an issue.

It would be good to clarify this for people considering to buy a KF or ones with KF and considering to buy a router spindle.

Imran


Re: Felder 500-03-019 dado blade how to use

 

I just talked to Felder. $83.00 for new ones. Does anyone know of any cheaper ones. In my defense I did not get any instructions that showed the shims. But 3 years is a long time. I¡¯m more of a tool collector. Lol My K3 has maybe 8 hours on it. Can¡¯t find things I want to build, so I thought maybe some boxes with box joints. I have the incra box joint set I never used as It will fit in the slider so I guess I will try to make 8mm joints. Thanks for your help.


Re: Felder 500-03-019 dado blade how to use

 

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In case of K975 there is a shim set that I believe comes with saw. I bought it used so I am not certain but I only got a 3mm shim with the saw. The full set consists of, 1 each of 3, 6, 9 mm. These are used to make up free space on the arbor. Then there are shims that allow you to set the kerf width.

Not sure if all Felder saws are built this way or not.

Imran

On Mar 8, 2021, at 12:10 PM, Doug Middlebrook via groups.io <middlebrookdoug@...> wrote:

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It would be better if Felder gave better instructions. At first I thought you could flip the one side to the outer side. But that¡¯s why I asked. Thanks for your help.

On Monday, March 8, 2021, 10:08:13 AM EST, Cliff Rohrabacher, Esq. <rohrabacher@...> wrote:


I just put the shims between the segments to get the? kerf thickness I want.

I modified my cutter set so that I can assemble it? with all the components so as to get a larger kerf.

On 3/7/21 4:40 PM, Doug Middlebrook via groups.io wrote:
I bought the dado blade 3 years ago and just went to use it but I did not get any shims, not sure it should have them. Been on line and see shims but no real instructions. I only bought the 8-15 mm. Does anyone have paper instructions. I must be getting old. Lol It is supposed to be adjustable. If I leave it together I get the 8mm. I think it might be an easy answer. ? Thanks Doug


Re: Felder 500-03-019 dado blade how to use

 

It would be better if Felder gave better instructions. At first I thought you could flip the one side to the outer side. But that¡¯s why I asked. Thanks for your help.

On Monday, March 8, 2021, 10:08:13 AM EST, Cliff Rohrabacher, Esq. <rohrabacher@...> wrote:


I just put the shims between the segments to get the? kerf thickness I want.

I modified my cutter set so that I can assemble it? with all the components so as to get a larger kerf.

On 3/7/21 4:40 PM, Doug Middlebrook via groups.io wrote:

I bought the dado blade 3 years ago and just went to use it but I did not get any shims, not sure it should have them. Been on line and see shims but no real instructions. I only bought the 8-15 mm. Does anyone have paper instructions. I must be getting old. Lol It is supposed to be adjustable. If I leave it together I get the 8mm. I think it might be an easy answer. ? Thanks Doug