Re: Motor plate experts

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Buying a transformer is the easy option but I hate hate hate 60hz hum and I’ve never been around a transformer this size that didn’t hum ?

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of David Kumm
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2020 10:24 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [FOG] Motor plate experts

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Joe, if that machine can be run on low voltage, you may need to boost your voltage.? 277v less 10% brings you down to the 250v minimum.? the motors will likely run warmer and may be fine but is it easy and cheap to put two? buck boost 32v transformers, wired open delta on the machine to get within spec.? I did this with my Robinson.? Two 1 kva transformers handles a 7.5 hp motor.? I bet the motor is wired 480 so looking at the starter will tell you how complicated it is to swap that for the lower voltage.? If you step up to 480, the preferred transformer would be a three phase 240 delta to 480 wye step up isolation unit.? Some transformers can be run in reverse but you need to understand the grounding issues when doing so.? Generally if the plate on the transformer says " low and High " you shouldn't reverse.? If it says " primary and secondary" it may be OK but should be checked by the manufacturer.? An auto transformer will be delta to delta in your case and be a smaller unit and cheaper but may not deliver quite as clean power as an isolation transformer.? Clean is my layman's term and not technically correct.? Lots of machines run fine with an autotransformer but they are more often used when the voltage spread is less.? Buck boost transformers are autotransformers.

Let us know what you find.? Dave

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Joe Jensen <joe.jensen@...>
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2020 5:36 PM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [FOG] Motor plate experts

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Here is the power service I have, listed on websites as “Uncommon” ?

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of imranindiana via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2020 2:45 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [FOG] Motor plate experts

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Joe,

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I am pretty sure both motor labels say they are 250-277V when delta connected and 440-480V when Y connected – (60 Hz).

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Do you see a pictorial that shows how to connect motor leads for delta power?

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I am not knowledgeable enough to know if 230V that you have is okay for the 250V min rating on the motor plate.

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Imran

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From: [email protected] On Behalf Of Joe Jensen
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2020 3:55 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [FOG] Motor plate experts

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The Langzauner sander machine tag says 3 phase 460V.? The specs in the manual say 400V 3 phase. ?The power junction box on the machine is labeled 480V, looks like this is from the last shop.? Ideally I can rewire for 240V three phase.? My power supply is utility Delta 230V 3 Phase.

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Machine tag, and two motor tags pics attached.? I’m and electrical engineer who has been a business person for 25 years so I’m not fluent in this stuff today.? Looks like at least these two motors can run in the 250V range.? Does the tag specify delta power?? I see some step up transformers are 240V Delta 2 phase in and 480V WYE out.?

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I don’t yet have it off the pallet to check the other bits.?

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Re: Motor plate experts

#112102

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Joe, if that machine can be run on low voltage, you may need to boost your voltage.? 277v less 10% brings you down to the 250v minimum.? the motors will likely run warmer and may be fine but is it easy and cheap to put two? buck boost 32v transformers, wired open delta on the machine to get within spec.? I did this with my Robinson.? Two 1 kva transformers handles a 7.5 hp motor.? I bet the motor is wired 480 so looking at the starter will tell you how complicated it is to swap that for the lower voltage.? If you step up to 480, the preferred transformer would be a three phase 240 delta to 480 wye step up isolation unit.? Some transformers can be run in reverse but you need to understand the grounding issues when doing so.? Generally if the plate on the transformer says " low and High " you shouldn't reverse.? If it says " primary and secondary" it may be OK but should be checked by the manufacturer.? An auto transformer will be delta to delta in your case and be a smaller unit and cheaper but may not deliver quite as clean power as an isolation transformer.? Clean is my layman's term and not technically correct.? Lots of machines run fine with an autotransformer but they are more often used when the voltage spread is less.? Buck boost transformers are autotransformers.

Let us know what you find.? Dave

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Joe Jensen <joe.jensen@...>
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2020 5:36 PM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [FOG] Motor plate experts

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Here is the power service I have, listed on websites as “Uncommon” ?

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of imranindiana via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2020 2:45 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [FOG] Motor plate experts

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Joe,

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I am pretty sure both motor labels say they are 250-277V when delta connected and 440-480V when Y connected – (60 Hz).

?

Do you see a pictorial that shows how to connect motor leads for delta power?

?

I am not knowledgeable enough to know if 230V that you have is okay for the 250V min rating on the motor plate.

?

Imran

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From: [email protected] On Behalf Of Joe Jensen
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2020 3:55 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [FOG] Motor plate experts

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The Langzauner sander machine tag says 3 phase 460V.? The specs in the manual say 400V 3 phase. ?The power junction box on the machine is labeled 480V, looks like this is from the last shop.? Ideally I can rewire for 240V three phase.? My power supply is utility Delta 230V 3 Phase.

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Machine tag, and two motor tags pics attached.? I’m and electrical engineer who has been a business person for 25 years so I’m not fluent in this stuff today.? Looks like at least these two motors can run in the 250V range.? Does the tag specify delta power?? I see some step up transformers are 240V Delta 2 phase in and 480V WYE out.?

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I don’t yet have it off the pallet to check the other bits.?

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Re: Motor plate experts

#112101

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Interesting link, thanks.? I bet those two motors have nine wires

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of mark thomas
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2020 6:11 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [FOG] Motor plate experts

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Delta v. Wye power distribution and Delta v. Wye motor winding are two different things.

Read about motors windings, for example here's the first link that same up when I entered something like "delta wye winding" into google:

Re: The "Singing Planer" finally solved...I think

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you know what, i guess not. I've been calling it a pressure bar but I don't know where I got that idea. whatever it is, it used to make noise, now it doesn't :)

Re: Motor plate experts

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Delta v. Wye power distribution and Delta v. Wye motor winding are two different things.

Read about motors windings, for example here's the first link that same up when I entered something like "delta wye winding" into google:

Re: The "Singing Planer" finally solved...I think

#112098

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Joe, it is not a pressure bar it is simply a chip deflector.

Regards, Mark

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Re: The "Singing Planer" finally solved...I think

#112097

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Is that metal piece acting as the pressure bar in the planer?

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of David Blehar via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2020 3:14 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [FOG] The "Singing Planer" finally solved...I think

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Long time lurker, first time posting, thought I'd share a minor success I had recently. I've been using an AD741 for three years now, have always been annoyed by the occasional high pitched squeal that comes from vibration of the bent metal infeed pressure bar. I had read several message threads here about potential fixes but so far as I gathered no one had arrived at one. I had contacted Felder about it and was assured it was nothing abnormal, and there was no particular fix for it.

The squeal?only happened for me when taking sequential passes on boards, not on a rough surface, so my thought was that the drag of a smooth board on the pressure bar was leading vibration in the entire bent metal bar. I found that i could temporarily alleviate the problem but putting paste wax on inferior edge of the bar, but that only lasted so long.?

So I did two things. First, I attached a thin layer of foam to the surfaces of that metal bar in areas where it wouldn't interfere with any moving parts. I used some left over shelf liner material to do it. Then I filled the little crevice created by the last bend in the metal plate with hot glue (the area circled in blue on the diagram). Those measures really dampened any vibration in the plate. As a final measure I put a piece of Low Friction tape that I got from Lee Valley along the bottom edge where the bar rides along the wood.?

I'm not really sure which of these fixes was the one that did the trick, I'm guessing probably the low friction tape was the key given the paste wax experiment, but between all those measures the high pitched squeal is completely gone. What a relief, it was driving me nuts.?

Anyway, thought I'd share in case anyone else out there is having the same issue.?

Incidentally, just placed an order for a k700 slider, so i'm sure i'll be hitting you all up with questions in a few months when this thing arrives.?

-Dave

Re: The "Singing Planer" finally solved...I think

#112096

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My solution to any noise in the shop:

If my machines aren’t singing, they aren’t making money :)

But good tips anyway?

Michael Tagge

Built Custom Carpentry?

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of David Blehar via groups.io <davidblehar@...>
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2020 4:13:38 PM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: [FOG] The "Singing Planer" finally solved...I think

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Long time lurker, first time posting, thought I'd share a minor success I had recently. I've been using an AD741 for three years now, have always been annoyed by the occasional high pitched squeal that comes from vibration of the bent metal infeed pressure bar. I had read several message threads here about potential fixes but so far as I gathered no one had arrived at one. I had contacted Felder about it and was assured it was nothing abnormal, and there was no particular fix for it.

The squeal?only happened for me when taking sequential passes on boards, not on a rough surface, so my thought was that the drag of a smooth board on the pressure bar was leading vibration in the entire bent metal bar. I found that i could temporarily alleviate the problem but putting paste wax on inferior edge of the bar, but that only lasted so long.?

So I did two things. First, I attached a thin layer of foam to the surfaces of that metal bar in areas where it wouldn't interfere with any moving parts. I used some left over shelf liner material to do it. Then I filled the little crevice created by the last bend in the metal plate with hot glue (the area circled in blue on the diagram). Those measures really dampened any vibration in the plate. As a final measure I put a piece of Low Friction tape that I got from Lee Valley along the bottom edge where the bar rides along the wood.?

I'm not really sure which of these fixes was the one that did the trick, I'm guessing probably the low friction tape was the key given the paste wax experiment, but between all those measures the high pitched squeal is completely gone. What a relief, it was driving me nuts.?

Anyway, thought I'd share in case anyone else out there is having the same issue.?

Incidentally, just placed an order for a k700 slider, so i'm sure i'll be hitting you all up with questions in a few months when this thing arrives.?

-Dave

Re: The "Singing Planer" finally solved...I think

#112095

Thanks for the tips on the jointer Dave. I may have to try them as I have experienced the same with my 741.?

I just took delivery of a new K700 myself and have been pouring thru the Felder Survival guide getting it all calibrated. Enjoy your new saw!

The "Singing Planer" finally solved...I think

#112094

Long time lurker, first time posting, thought I'd share a minor success I had recently. I've been using an AD741 for three years now, have always been annoyed by the occasional high pitched squeal that comes from vibration of the bent metal infeed pressure bar. I had read several message threads here about potential fixes but so far as I gathered no one had arrived at one. I had contacted Felder about it and was assured it was nothing abnormal, and there was no particular fix for it.

The squeal?only happened for me when taking sequential passes on boards, not on a rough surface, so my thought was that the drag of a smooth board on the pressure bar was leading vibration in the entire bent metal bar. I found that i could temporarily alleviate the problem but putting paste wax on inferior edge of the bar, but that only lasted so long.?

So I did two things. First, I attached a thin layer of foam to the surfaces of that metal bar in areas where it wouldn't interfere with any moving parts. I used some left over shelf liner material to do it. Then I filled the little crevice created by the last bend in the metal plate with hot glue (the area circled in blue on the diagram). Those measures really dampened any vibration in the plate. As a final measure I put a piece of Low Friction tape that I got from Lee Valley along the bottom edge where the bar rides along the wood.?

I'm not really sure which of these fixes was the one that did the trick, I'm guessing probably the low friction tape was the key given the paste wax experiment, but between all those measures the high pitched squeal is completely gone. What a relief, it was driving me nuts.?

Anyway, thought I'd share in case anyone else out there is having the same issue.?

Incidentally, just placed an order for a k700 slider, so i'm sure i'll be hitting you all up with questions in a few months when this thing arrives.?

-Dave

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Re: Motor plate experts

#112093

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Here is the power service I have, listed on websites as “Uncommon” ?

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of imranindiana via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2020 2:45 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [FOG] Motor plate experts

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Joe,

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I am pretty sure both motor labels say they are 250-277V when delta connected and 440-480V when Y connected – (60 Hz).

?

Do you see a pictorial that shows how to connect motor leads for delta power?

?

I am not knowledgeable enough to know if 230V that you have is okay for the 250V min rating on the motor plate.

?

Imran

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From: [email protected] On Behalf Of Joe Jensen
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2020 3:55 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [FOG] Motor plate experts

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The Langzauner sander machine tag says 3 phase 460V.? The specs in the manual say 400V 3 phase. ?The power junction box on the machine is labeled 480V, looks like this is from the last shop.? Ideally I can rewire for 240V three phase.? My power supply is utility Delta 230V 3 Phase.

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Machine tag, and two motor tags pics attached.? I’m and electrical engineer who has been a business person for 25 years so I’m not fluent in this stuff today.? Looks like at least these two motors can run in the 250V range.? Does the tag specify delta power?? I see some step up transformers are 240V Delta 2 phase in and 480V WYE out.?

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I don’t yet have it off the pallet to check the other bits.?

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Re: Motor plate experts

#112092

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I have not pulled the covers off to see inside the wire box. No diagrams on outside of motor.? Had some email correspondence with a guy who was the importer of those machines in that era.? He said that machine was a custom order for 460V and standard is 400V.

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of imranindiana via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2020 2:45 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [FOG] Motor plate experts

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Joe,

?

I am pretty sure both motor labels say they are 250-277V when delta connected and 440-480V when Y connected – (60 Hz).

?

Do you see a pictorial that shows how to connect motor leads for delta power?

?

I am not knowledgeable enough to know if 230V that you have is okay for the 250V min rating on the motor plate.

?

Imran

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From: [email protected] On Behalf Of Joe Jensen
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2020 3:55 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [FOG] Motor plate experts

?

The Langzauner sander machine tag says 3 phase 460V.? The specs in the manual say 400V 3 phase. ?The power junction box on the machine is labeled 480V, looks like this is from the last shop.? Ideally I can rewire for 240V three phase.? My power supply is utility Delta 230V 3 Phase.

?

Machine tag, and two motor tags pics attached.? I’m and electrical engineer who has been a business person for 25 years so I’m not fluent in this stuff today.? Looks like at least these two motors can run in the 250V range.? Does the tag specify delta power?? I see some step up transformers are 240V Delta 2 phase in and 480V WYE out.?

?

I don’t yet have it off the pallet to check the other bits.?

?

Re: Motor plate experts

#112091

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Joe,

?

I am pretty sure both motor labels say they are 250-277V when delta connected and 440-480V when Y connected – (60 Hz).

?

Do you see a pictorial that shows how to connect motor leads for delta power?

?

I am not knowledgeable enough to know if 230V that you have is okay for the 250V min rating on the motor plate.

?

Imran

?

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From: [email protected] On Behalf Of Joe Jensen
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2020 3:55 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [FOG] Motor plate experts

?

The Langzauner sander machine tag says 3 phase 460V.? The specs in the manual say 400V 3 phase. ?The power junction box on the machine is labeled 480V, looks like this is from the last shop.? Ideally I can rewire for 240V three phase.? My power supply is utility Delta 230V 3 Phase.

?

Machine tag, and two motor tags pics attached.? I’m and electrical engineer who has been a business person for 25 years so I’m not fluent in this stuff today.? Looks like at least these two motors can run in the 250V range.? Does the tag specify delta power?? I see some step up transformers are 240V Delta 2 phase in and 480V WYE out.?

?

I don’t yet have it off the pallet to check the other bits.?

?

Motor plate experts

#112090

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The Langzauner sander machine tag says 3 phase 460V.? The specs in the manual say 400V 3 phase. ?The power junction box on the machine is labeled 480V, looks like this is from the last shop.? Ideally I can rewire for 240V three phase.? My power supply is utility Delta 230V 3 Phase.

?

Machine tag, and two motor tags pics attached.? I’m and electrical engineer who has been a business person for 25 years so I’m not fluent in this stuff today.? Looks like at least these two motors can run in the 250V range.? Does the tag specify delta power?? I see some step up transformers are 240V Delta 2 phase in and 480V WYE out.?

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I don’t yet have it off the pallet to check the other bits.?

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Re: Langzauner Sander Delivery - Warning on Machinery Max Palletization

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I know its not as 'professional', but this is why i prefer Ushippers with a janky trailer and missing teeth. Direct transport from pickup to drop off typically offers less chances for bumps, drops, or other oopsies. Is the door on the front jacked up now??

Thankfully, with most high end industrial machines, you really have to be a bone head to truly hurt them. Other than the front door being bent, i doubt the 3.5" fall to the side hurt it. Sorry, man, shipping machines sucks.

Patrick

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On Thu, Dec 17, 2020 at 1:37 PM David Kumm <davekumm@...> wrote:

That is horrible.? I didn't like Machinery Max before but this is beyond incompetence.? It is sad when the rare machine you search a long time for is in the hands of these people.? Dave

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Joe Jensen <joe.jensen@...>
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2020 1:01 PM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: [FOG] Langzauner Sander Delivery - Warning on Machinery Max Palletization
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Warning to all who buy online auction items from Machinery Max.? I paid to have this palletized.? Spoke with the guy at the ship out site who is an employee of Machinery Max to ensure he would put blocking under the machine feet so the machine would not break through the pallet.? He assured me he always does this and it would not be an issue. I pushed again telling him the last machine I had palletized indeed fell through the pallet.? He said he was the only Machinery Max person there and the only one palletizing and loading and to not worry.

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This is what was delivered.?

No blocking under the legs of the machine.?
Just ?” of MDF added to the top of the pallet for a 640KG machine.? Loose parts just laying on top of the machine, are they all even there??
Machine broke through which was certain to happen,? Trucking company had to put a second pallet under.

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How in any world is this palletization acceptable?? I was assured it would be correctly palletized.? The machine is now much more beat up that in the auction pics.? Not sure I have any recourse.? I did buy $10,000 of coverage for shipping but it was not the shipper’s fault.

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Joe Jensen ?| VP Internet of Things Group?| GM Retail Banking Hospitality and Education

480-554-8207–翱蹿蹿颈肠别 | 480-231-0669–颁别濒濒 ?

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Re: Langzauner Sander Delivery - Warning on Machinery Max Palletization

#112088

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That is horrible.? I didn't like Machinery Max before but this is beyond incompetence.? It is sad when the rare machine you search a long time for is in the hands of these people.? Dave

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Joe Jensen <joe.jensen@...>
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2020 1:01 PM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: [FOG] Langzauner Sander Delivery - Warning on Machinery Max Palletization

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Warning to all who buy online auction items from Machinery Max.? I paid to have this palletized.? Spoke with the guy at the ship out site who is an employee of Machinery Max to ensure he would put blocking under the machine feet so the machine would not break through the pallet.? He assured me he always does this and it would not be an issue. I pushed again telling him the last machine I had palletized indeed fell through the pallet.? He said he was the only Machinery Max person there and the only one palletizing and loading and to not worry.

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This is what was delivered.?

No blocking under the legs of the machine.?
Just ?” of MDF added to the top of the pallet for a 640KG machine.? Loose parts just laying on top of the machine, are they all even there??
Machine broke through which was certain to happen,? Trucking company had to put a second pallet under.

?

How in any world is this palletization acceptable?? I was assured it would be correctly palletized.? The machine is now much more beat up that in the auction pics.? Not sure I have any recourse.? I did buy $10,000 of coverage for shipping but it was not the shipper’s fault.

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Joe Jensen ?| VP Internet of Things Group?| GM Retail Banking Hospitality and Education

480-554-8207–翱蹿蹿颈肠别 | 480-231-0669–颁别濒濒 ?

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Re: Langzauner Sander Delivery - Warning on Machinery Max Palletization

#112087

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If you paid for it to be done, then your only recourse is with Machinery Max the way I see it. That sucks… MDF should never have been used, only plywood or maybe thick OSB.

Brian Lamb
blamb11@...
www.lambtoolworks.com

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On Dec 17, 2020, at 11:01 AM, Joe Jensen <joe.jensen@...> wrote:

Warning to all who buy online auction items from Machinery Max.? I paid to have this palletized.? Spoke with the guy at the ship out site who is an employee of Machinery Max to ensure he would put blocking under the machine feet so the machine would not break through the pallet.? He assured me he always does this and it would not be an issue. I pushed again telling him the last machine I had palletized indeed fell through the pallet.? He said he was the only Machinery Max person there and the only one palletizing and loading and to not worry.
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This is what was delivered.?
No blocking under the legs of the machine.?
Just ?” of MDF added to the top of the pallet for a 640KG machine.? Loose parts just laying on top of the machine, are they all even there??
Machine broke through which was certain to happen,? Trucking company had to put a second pallet under.
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How in any world is this palletization acceptable?? I was assured it would be correctly palletized.? The machine is now much more beat up that in the auction pics.? Not sure I have any recourse.? I did buy $10,000 of coverage for shipping but it was not the shipper’s fault.
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Joe Jensen??|?VP Internet of Things?Group?|?GM Retail Banking Hospitality and Education
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Re: Langzauner Sander Delivery - Warning on Machinery Max Palletization

#112086

Wow, that's bad. Especially since you already had the conversation. I can't remember any time MDF was a suitable structural subfloor over an "open top" pallet,?though I have seen it as just a "scuff pad" over a proper?structural?top. I'm also surprised the pallet top boards aren't?hardwood at least. There's a lot of cheaping out there if you paid for palletization, in my opinion. For the amount of money involved, I'd strongly consider suing to get your "buyer's premium" back.

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Brett Wissel
Saint Louis Restoration
1831 S Kingshighway Blvd (at Shaw Blvd)
St Louis, MO 63110

314.772.2167
brett@...

Langzauner Sander Delivery - Warning on Machinery Max Palletization

#112085

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Warning to all who buy online auction items from Machinery Max.? I paid to have this palletized.? Spoke with the guy at the ship out site who is an employee of Machinery Max to ensure he would put blocking under the machine feet so the machine would not break through the pallet.? He assured me he always does this and it would not be an issue. I pushed again telling him the last machine I had palletized indeed fell through the pallet.? He said he was the only Machinery Max person there and the only one palletizing and loading and to not worry.

?

This is what was delivered.?

No blocking under the legs of the machine.?
Just ?” of MDF added to the top of the pallet for a 640KG machine.? Loose parts just laying on top of the machine, are they all even there??
Machine broke through which was certain to happen,? Trucking company had to put a second pallet under.

?

How in any world is this palletization acceptable?? I was assured it would be correctly palletized.? The machine is now much more beat up that in the auction pics.? Not sure I have any recourse.? I did buy $10,000 of coverage for shipping but it was not the shipper’s fault.

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Joe Jensen ?| VP Internet of Things Group?| GM Retail Banking Hospitality and Education

480-554-8207–翱蹿蹿颈肠别 | 480-231-0669–颁别濒濒 ?

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Re: Slider support leg question #sawsetup

#112084

Thank you all for the advice. I have the Survival Guide and have watched several videos. With only 2 sets of bolts to adjust, I feel ready for the challenge.

This forum is a great source of information!