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Re: KF 700 SP options
This is a very good Felder video demonstrating the technique using the slider, you can find the use of miter index at around 7 minute. I have the miter index with length compensation. It is accurate, but not very easy to use as David Best explained. If you watch Steve Rowe¡¯s YouTube video about his Martin outrigger table, it is the best in the world, of course pricy. James James
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Re: Comatic DC40 on a Felder KF700SP
My guess is that the pictures are treated as attachments and as such, they are not permitted according to the statement on the group's homepage.? "Attachments are not permitted."? Consequently, they are replaced in the body of the msg by placeholder tags [image#.jpeg].?
I have looked at the "Photos" section of the group.? Some of the photos, without caption (or description), are not very useful.? For someone who comes after the pertinent discussion when the photos were uploaded, I have no clue what I would be looking at sometimes.?? |
Re: M18 FUEL? SURGE? 1/4" Hex Hydraulic Driver
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýHey MacI have a Milwaukee 1/2¡± drill driver for about two years good wrist?snapping torque ! It has served me well I¡¯ve got the extension on the slider mounted ?I will have to send you pictures off line looks great thanks again BAM ? Van On Jan 12, 2018, at 12:33 PM, mac campshure mac512002@... [felder-woodworking] <felder-woodworking@...> wrote:
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Re: Comatic DC40 on a Felder KF700SP
It is not just you. I cannot see the pictures either. I can see the pictures Joe and Mac sent in their email. I believe they send email with picture using iPhone. James
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Re: M18 FUEL? SURGE? 1/4" Hex Hydraulic Driver
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýGreetings? I did pick up the Milwaukee fuel surge a few weeks ago and it is rad ,,,lots of snuff if needed it has four settings three for different torque settings and one for drilling. I have used on low setting for electrical panel work and in 3 have driven a ?bunch of 3" to ?5" screws and some bolts and the hydraulic drive is very easy on my arm the noise and hammering vibration.? My 25 mo old grand son loves it ! They are 130.00 bucks ?and I got a 5 amp battery for 100.00.? The drill in ?front is my old one and I know I ?have driven 20,000 to 30,000 2 to 4" screws in the last 6 years so she is tired but I still use . They are pretty much all you see on job sights around here.? Mac,, martin/campshure/co/llc 608-824-0023?fax Designing and building for 47 years On Oct 22, 2017, at 5:51 PM, David Davies myfinishingtouch@... [felder-woodworking] <felder-woodworking@...> wrote:
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Re: KF 700 SP options
30mm spindle is one of Felder best bargains for the 700 series. When I ordered my F700Z in 2011 I ordered with a 1 1/4" mainly because of it being the NA standard and it was the more costly of the 2 spindles. I later bought the 30mm for around $300.00 CDN to take advantage of the cheap tooling offers that Felder does twice a year. I later got the router spindle for around 700.00 CDN when it went on sale. You have to be smart about purchases and take advantage when the deals on. I said this before, never buy a Felder unless there's a deal, 20% is 20% and better in your pocket. On Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 2:39 PM, Edward Mazuronis egmiii@... [felder-woodworking] <felder-woodworking@...> wrote:
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Re: KF 700 SP options
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýWhen you order the machine, you need to specify a spindle. But they should be able to take the spindle in the machine and swap it for a 30mm if that is what you really want. They have extra spindles in inventory for most machines or could order one fairly quickly. Doesn't hurt to ask.? On Jan 12, 2018, at 1:45 PM, Mark Foster mfsta2lt@... [felder-woodworking] <felder-woodworking@...> wrote:
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Re: KF 700 SP options
Hi Joe I do not feel 30 years old is very old for woodwork.? Much of the modern standard is a 50 life span at best. It's sad because trees will often take 100 or more years to grow to where they will produce quality material. It's a down ward spiral. Most of my work incorporates successful designs from 100 to 200 year old furniture and architectural work. If maintained I see no reason why the things I make should not last just as long as the pieces that inspired them given the same care to maintenance is given. I work with Koa most often for furniture and do not expect that there will be a viable supply left for harvest 15 years from now. It's quite sad. Most of what is harvested is newer growth and a poor quality. I feel a social responsibility to build to my highest possible standard.
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For doors and most mortice and tenon work I use thru tenons. When mortices were hand cut, they often were thru tenons. This made it easier to cut a square parallel piped hole accurately coming from both sides as opposed to a blind mortise. Even with a chisel mortiser if the chisel wanders or the table? or stock is out a little any error can be corrected by mortising half way thru either side to get a joint that mates up squarely. Further A thru tenon has more structural integrity than a blind mortised tenon. Seems the industry stard for M&T seems to be 2.5" which I feel is inadequate.? If you look at doors 100 years old or more many or most will be thru tenon. After the glue eventually fails from a 100 years of seasonal cycling of shrinking and expanding even if the glue joint does not break, the the wood fibers will tear away from themselves. Then your relying on your joinery to hold your work together.? The joint has to be compressed together to create the tension needed to hold the joint tight. I feel the " leave room for glue" is just an excuse for poor cutting of the joinery.? Glue manufactures like TB will state 3mil glue, and that it's not intended to fill voids or gaps. So if your joint has enough play to "adjust "during glue up theres gaps. And after the glue fails.....? Quality Old doors with thru tenons, made with properly dried material and sound joinery hold there form even though you can see the glue has failed.Given a thickness of part that will accommodate, will use double tenons. So there fore doubling the strength. And there are times on cedar sliding doors and windows where I do not glue them at all. The joints need to be tight enough where they need to be hammered together. Otherwise I have moved to hide glue by Old Brown Glue for it's reversible quality where if I need to disassemble the work I can heat the part and worry the joinery apart. Hide glue is one of the few adhesives that truly will bond to a dry coat of itself. Thanks fro the info on your tenon set. Ive talked to Greg more than a few times . Just waiting for a large enough? door order where I can budget in the cost. ?I think listening to all you guys has made me set on getting a felder? to replace my T130 with sliding table. I saw the format on ebay a few months back was really temped. Hope to buy new for warrantee etc. To the Op if your reading I think the other thing not mention in regard to router table vs shaper is that you will rarely if ever get burn marks on the profile. Unless you put the cutter on backwards...... funny it still milled the OHgee, black as black it was lol. ---In felder-woodworking@..., <dohertyj@...> wrote : Hi Corey, The big tenon cutters are part of a Leitz Euro window set. ? The max depth of tenon is about 90mm. ?Since the big tenon cutters are part of a window set and are made to make crossed lapped tenons the cutters have a corresponding mate that makes a joint that is a specific width. ?The standard finished stile and rail width for this set is 78mm so the tenon and its cross lapped mate have to account for this length. ?For doors I can make the stiles and rails up to 90mm wide. ?Then I hit the limit of tenon depth as the cutters are mounted on 80 mm sleeves. If I want to go wider for a tall bottom rail then I mill off the tenons on the rail and use dowels. So what is your reference for all glue failing on cross grain surfaces? ?Over what time period? While at the Thonet furniture factory in Germany last May I saw Windows used in their museum made with cross lapped tenons and there was no evidence that the corner glue joints were failing. ?I am guessing that the windows were 20 to 30 years old. ?I noticed these windows because they had a 4mm air gap and were 58mm thick. ?This is similar to the euro windows I make. ?Europe has moved on to thicker more energy efficient windows so 58mm windows are now obsolete. ?I think they still work well for New Orleans climate though. ? Joe in New Orleans
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Re: KF 700 SP options
Getting 1 1/4" shaper cutters isn't difficult.? I order from Greg at Rangate and the quality of their cutters is excellent. Dave On Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 12:45 PM, Mark Foster mfsta2lt@... [felder-woodworking] <felder-woodworking@...> wrote:
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Re: KF 700 SP options
The hinge point on the Hammer C3 tilt bracket is at the top next to the attachment rail - on most of the other Hammer/Felder tilt brackets the hinge point is further away from the rail by a few inches. If you go to the Felder e shop and look at the photos of the accessories for the feeders, you'll see what I mean
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Re: Comatic DC40 on a Felder KF700SP
I don't see the images.? The few times I've tried to attach pictures they were also stripped out. On Jan 12, 2018 11:41 AM, "vnh84@... [felder-woodworking]" <felder-woodworking@...> wrote:
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Re: KF 700 SP options
That is most likely the same machine, a KF700SP with 9¡¯ slider, manual controls with dial indicators. 49¡± rip. I would have ordered the smaller rip but the deal was to good to pass on. They were using the machine for demos at the open house, It has only been run those two days.
I am not quiet sure about educating Liz. I did share a tidbit about the A3-31 and buying and second wider end rail for the top table where the fence mounts. My KF will have a 1 1/4 spindle being that i how they standard spec the unit. If I had ordered I would have gotten the 30mm as suggested here, I will share that tidbit with Liz as well. Off to try to figure out shipping and delivery. Mark |
Re: KF 700 SP options
David:
How did you get into my shop and take the pictures of my mess? We don¡¯t even know each other. Gil Fuqua One of the advantages of being disorderly is that one is constantly making exciting discoveries. A.A. Milne ¨C Winnie the Pooh author From: felder-woodworking@... [mailto:felder-woodworking@...] Sent: Friday, January 12, 2018 2:44 AM To: rcorselli@... [felder-woodworking] <felder-woodworking@...> Subject: Re: [felder-woodworking] KF 700 SP options You guys are funny. OCD has it¡¯s advantages and disadvantages. And people vary a great deal in terms of their need for organization and keeping the shop clean and tidy. When I¡¯m busy with a project, my shop can look like a tornado ripped through it. But personally, I can¡¯t work in such an environment for long without starting to twitch. On a trip this past year, I visited a dear friend (who will remain nameless) who is distinctly in the opposite camp. He thrives when everything is out and he can hop from one thing to another. Here¡¯s a few photos: The friend who owns this shop does amazing work, is also a Felder owner, and is an engineering genius - not to mention one of the nicest guys you¡¯ll ever meet. But I was afraid I¡¯d run out of Xanax before I was scheduled to leave. One of the best tricks I¡¯ve learned to keep the shop clean is to have high pressure compressed air, a long coiled hose with high output spray nozzle and a floor sweep for my dust extractor. I first put on my gas mask, turn on the extractor and the floor sweep blast gate opens, then I make two big loops from the far end of the shop spraying down everything towards the floor sweep as I get closer and closer to it. Once I¡¯m finished, my housecleaner empties the extractor bin with her Dyson Animal vacuum cleaner so I can reuse the plastic bin liners - and restocks the shop refrigerator with Champaign, refills the humidor with fresh Chesterfield Kings and disinfects the hookah. LOL David Best On Jan 11, 2018, at 9:54 PM, GLEN chris3645@... <mailto:chris3645@...> [felder-woodworking] <felder-woodworking@... <mailto:felder-woodworking@...> > wrote: He must have a night shift that cleans the place. I hope when i get set up in my shop I can keep it as clean as his. -----Original Message----- From: mfsta2lt@... <mailto:mfsta2lt@...> [felder-woodworking] <felder-woodworking@... <mailto:felder-woodworking@...> > To: felder-woodworking <felder-woodworking@... <mailto:[email protected]> > Sent: Thu, Jan 11, 2018 9:09 pm Subject: Re: [felder-woodworking] KF 700 SP options Yea when I was there you could have eaten off the floor. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
Re: KF 700 SP options
Imran, That is great. No problem, I can wait, it is not urgent. I can lift and lower the heavy F48 :) Thanks, James On Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 12:29 PM, imranindiana@... [felder-woodworking] <felder-woodworking@...> wrote:
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Re: KF 700 SP options
James,
I do not have hammer but looking at the pics the tilt away mechanism is different for Felder vs Hammer. I have the gas spring attached to the bracket on my Felder. The bracket engineering print is in files under FOG made products. I am out of the country until end of Jan. If you can wait, upon return, I can send the complete instructions I received from a FOG member regarding the Big Lift. Perhaps it was Brian, but I ma not sure. Imran |
Re: KF 700 SP options
If I remember from the original postings many years ago it was for leverage and mechanical advantage. Never done one as I have?really no need for one and?zero interest. I do remember the discussions though and while not as simple as bolting on a shock there maybe other issues with the Felders vs Hammers. On Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 11:43 AM, James Zhu james.zhu2@... [felder-woodworking] <felder-woodworking@...> wrote:
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Re: KF 700 SP options
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýOption 11 is a switch that controls the rotational direction of the shaper spindle.Option 91 is a support arm to hold the extraction hose to the saw guard when the Euro II style saw guard is used and mounted to the riving knife/splitter (instead of being mounted to an overhead guard bracket, which is option 81). ? You can see #91 it in the top photo on this web page: ? You can see option 81 at this page: ? David Best
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