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Re: Martin cutter blocks - which one tersa or xylent type carbide insert? #jointerplaner

 

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Hi Joel, I¡¯ve enjoyed reading along with this post. Would you care to share some pics of your new machines? As they say, a picture tells a thousand words!?

On Mar 13, 2023, at 2:26 PM, joelgelman via groups.io <joelgelman@...> wrote:

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To clarify, I was referring to the Waxilit. ?So, instead of telling you how much I saved, I will tell you how nice it is that you get to have the machines exactly how you want them with warranty, oh, and in the new color (unless you want to pay a premium to have the old color for some reason).?

Do carefully consider the longer jointer beds if you have the space. For me, if I was buying new, I would not have picked extensions. ?When I realized if I were to get used, ?I would have to deal with the longer infeed on the "Aircraft Carrier" it was almost a deal breaker. ?I had to make major changes in layout and dust collection to have it fit without being cramped. ?However, now that I have it, I am very happy to have the extra infeed and wish I had the extra outfeed also, especially since that does not change the overall layout when paired with the planer that is far proud of the jointer outfeed. ?Also nice to have that extra space on the infeed side not only for when flattening long boards, but to place several boards awaiting to be fed one at a time.

I think it is like a slider where everyone advises to go longer if you have the space as you will never regret and wish you had shorter. ?Just my 0.02 if and only if you have the space.


Re: Martin cutter blocks - which one tersa or xylent type carbide insert? #jointerplaner

 

To clarify, I was referring to the Waxilit. ?So, instead of telling you how much I saved, I will tell you how nice it is that you get to have the machines exactly how you want them with warranty, oh, and in the new color (unless you want to pay a premium to have the old color for some reason).?

Do carefully consider the longer jointer beds if you have the space. For me, if I was buying new, I would not have picked extensions. ?When I realized if I were to get used, ?I would have to deal with the longer infeed on the "Aircraft Carrier" it was almost a deal breaker. ?I had to make major changes in layout and dust collection to have it fit without being cramped. ?However, now that I have it, I am very happy to have the extra infeed and wish I had the extra outfeed also, especially since that does not change the overall layout when paired with the planer that is far proud of the jointer outfeed. ?Also nice to have that extra space on the infeed side not only for when flattening long boards, but to place several boards awaiting to be fed one at a time.

I think it is like a slider where everyone advises to go longer if you have the space as you will never regret and wish you had shorter. ?Just my 0.02 if and only if you have the space.


Re: Alternative to Infinity Tools in USA

 

I use Whitehill most frequently.? International shipping takes a couple days from shipment to my door and doesn't break the bank. The website shows stocking levels and when to expect shipping -- very helpful.

-Kyle?


Re: WTB Laguna Driftmaster fence #Bandsaw #wanted

 

I have one. Plz Direct Message me, and we can work out the details


Re: Alternative to Infinity Tools in USA

 

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Used Infinity lots of times and they¡¯ve always delivered. Sorry about you situation. I¡¯m sure they¡¯ll make it right.

Chris Edwards
(407) 902-1358 cell



On Mar 13, 2023, at 9:53 AM, Jim Fleming <jameshfleming@...> wrote:

Have you tried cancelling the order?


Re: Alternative to Infinity Tools in USA

 

Have you tried cancelling the order?


Re: Martin cutter blocks - which one tersa or xylent type carbide insert? #jointerplaner

 

I would spring for the pump lube. There are several oil nipples on the planer and a pain to do with the hand pump they supply.


Re: Martin cutter blocks - which one tersa or xylent type carbide insert? #jointerplaner

 

Please don't ever tell me how much you saved buying the two machines used : )? ?This is the lubricator from the catalog recommended by Martin. Not the waxilit version this is for the machine itself not material feeding.?



Jay Bowen
Cleveland


Re: Alternative to Infinity Tools in USA

 

I ordered products from Infinity Tools a few times before, never had issues?with them.

Call them and ask to speak with their manager or boss, and request the refund.

James

On Mon, Mar 13, 2023 at 9:22 AM Jim Dayton <jd74914@...> wrote:
Interesting-I¡¯ve ordered a bunch from Infinity and never had an issue. Odd.?

On Mon, Mar 13, 2023 at 8:49 AM Andy <andy.raynor08@...> wrote:
Whitehill tools is great as well and a little more economical.?



On Mon, Mar 13, 2023 at 8:46 AM Brian Turner <bjamesturner@...> wrote:
Yeah. I should have gone with them in the first place.

From Infinity i got the rail/style kit. the deep tennon kit. and the raise panel stuff for $3,000. Which is about half as much as the same stuff from Rangate. But obviously, now I see why. I dont know how any professional, or anyone who has clients to keep happy, can order from Infinity.?

Well looks like now I'll need to bite the bullet and go with Rangate anyway.?

On Mon, Mar 13, 2023 at 8:43?AM David Davies <myfinishingtouch@...> wrote:
Rangate
Dave Davies

On Mon, Mar 13, 2023 at 7:41?AM Brian Turner <bjamesturner@...> wrote:
I ordered about $3,000 worth of cutter heads and knives from Infinity Tools to help with a door project I have. I placed the order back on January 10th. They still have not sent the completed order to me and every time I call to ask they tell me its back ordered and will be shipped in two weeks. Obviously when I call two weeks later, they tell me "it will now be shipped in two more weeks".

Anyway, I'm pretty sure I just got scammed out of $3k. Which obviously sucks. But honestly at this point I just need to get the tooling to finish the project.?

Anyone know of a more trustworthy website where I can order cutter heads for rail/style door making kits? I would like to avoid router bits and instead use shaper cutter heads. But honestly at this point I would take anything just so i can make progress on this project.

-Brian




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318-219-7868


Re: Alternative to Infinity Tools in USA

 

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Yes called ¡°cutter share¡± ¨C

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Mike Leiferman
Sent: Monday, March 13, 2023 9:37 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [FOG] Alternative to Infinity Tools in USA

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I thought someone mentioned that Rangate will rent the cutters. ?If a one off job. ?Or a cash flow issue.



On Mar 13, 2023, at 7:46 AM, Brian Turner <bjamesturner@...> wrote:

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Yeah. I should have gone with them in the first place.

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From Infinity i got the rail/style kit. the deep tennon kit. and the raise panel stuff for $3,000. Which is about half as much as the same stuff from Rangate. But obviously, now I see why. I dont know how any professional, or anyone who has clients to keep happy, can order from Infinity.?

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Well looks like now I'll need to bite the bullet and go with Rangate anyway.?

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On Mon, Mar 13, 2023 at 8:43?AM David Davies <myfinishingtouch@...> wrote:

Rangate

Dave Davies

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On Mon, Mar 13, 2023 at 7:41?AM Brian Turner <bjamesturner@...> wrote:

I ordered about $3,000 worth of cutter heads and knives from Infinity Tools to help with a door project I have. I placed the order back on January 10th. They still have not sent the completed order to me and every time I call to ask they tell me its back ordered and will be shipped in two weeks. Obviously when I call two weeks later, they tell me "it will now be shipped in two more weeks".

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Anyway, I'm pretty sure I just got scammed out of $3k. Which obviously sucks. But honestly at this point I just need to get the tooling to finish the project.?

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Anyone know of a more trustworthy website where I can order cutter heads for rail/style door making kits? I would like to avoid router bits and instead use shaper cutter heads. But honestly at this point I would take anything just so i can make progress on this project.

?

-Brian

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Dave & Marie Davies

318-219-7868


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Michael Marsico


Re: Alternative to Infinity Tools in USA

 

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I thought someone mentioned that Rangate will rent the cutters. ?If a one off job. ?Or a cash flow issue.


On Mar 13, 2023, at 7:46 AM, Brian Turner <bjamesturner@...> wrote:

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Yeah. I should have gone with them in the first place.

From Infinity i got the rail/style kit. the deep tennon kit. and the raise panel stuff for $3,000. Which is about half as much as the same stuff from Rangate. But obviously, now I see why. I dont know how any professional, or anyone who has clients to keep happy, can order from Infinity.?

Well looks like now I'll need to bite the bullet and go with Rangate anyway.?

On Mon, Mar 13, 2023 at 8:43?AM David Davies <myfinishingtouch@...> wrote:
Rangate
Dave Davies

On Mon, Mar 13, 2023 at 7:41?AM Brian Turner <bjamesturner@...> wrote:
I ordered about $3,000 worth of cutter heads and knives from Infinity Tools to help with a door project I have. I placed the order back on January 10th. They still have not sent the completed order to me and every time I call to ask they tell me its back ordered and will be shipped in two weeks. Obviously when I call two weeks later, they tell me "it will now be shipped in two more weeks".

Anyway, I'm pretty sure I just got scammed out of $3k. Which obviously sucks. But honestly at this point I just need to get the tooling to finish the project.?

Anyone know of a more trustworthy website where I can order cutter heads for rail/style door making kits? I would like to avoid router bits and instead use shaper cutter heads. But honestly at this point I would take anything just so i can make progress on this project.

-Brian




--
Dave & Marie Davies

318-219-7868


Re: Alternative to Infinity Tools in USA

 

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Brian,

Freeborn Tool Company Inc. ?They are a very solid business, with outstanding customer service! ?Here¡¯s the link. ?


Thx,

Wade





On Mar 13, 2023, at 5:41 AM, Brian Turner <bjamesturner@...> wrote:

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I ordered about $3,000 worth of cutter heads and knives from Infinity Tools to help with a door project I have. I placed the order back on January 10th. They still have not sent the completed order to me and every time I call to ask they tell me its back ordered and will be shipped in two weeks. Obviously when I call two weeks later, they tell me "it will now be shipped in two more weeks".

Anyway, I'm pretty sure I just got scammed out of $3k. Which obviously sucks. But honestly at this point I just need to get the tooling to finish the project.?

Anyone know of a more trustworthy website where I can order cutter heads for rail/style door making kits? I would like to avoid router bits and instead use shaper cutter heads. But honestly at this point I would take anything just so i can make progress on this project.

-Brian



Re: Alternative to Infinity Tools in USA

 

Interesting-I¡¯ve ordered a bunch from Infinity and never had an issue. Odd.?

On Mon, Mar 13, 2023 at 8:49 AM Andy <andy.raynor08@...> wrote:
Whitehill tools is great as well and a little more economical.?



On Mon, Mar 13, 2023 at 8:46 AM Brian Turner <bjamesturner@...> wrote:
Yeah. I should have gone with them in the first place.

From Infinity i got the rail/style kit. the deep tennon kit. and the raise panel stuff for $3,000. Which is about half as much as the same stuff from Rangate. But obviously, now I see why. I dont know how any professional, or anyone who has clients to keep happy, can order from Infinity.?

Well looks like now I'll need to bite the bullet and go with Rangate anyway.?

On Mon, Mar 13, 2023 at 8:43?AM David Davies <myfinishingtouch@...> wrote:
Rangate
Dave Davies

On Mon, Mar 13, 2023 at 7:41?AM Brian Turner <bjamesturner@...> wrote:
I ordered about $3,000 worth of cutter heads and knives from Infinity Tools to help with a door project I have. I placed the order back on January 10th. They still have not sent the completed order to me and every time I call to ask they tell me its back ordered and will be shipped in two weeks. Obviously when I call two weeks later, they tell me "it will now be shipped in two more weeks".

Anyway, I'm pretty sure I just got scammed out of $3k. Which obviously sucks. But honestly at this point I just need to get the tooling to finish the project.?

Anyone know of a more trustworthy website where I can order cutter heads for rail/style door making kits? I would like to avoid router bits and instead use shaper cutter heads. But honestly at this point I would take anything just so i can make progress on this project.

-Brian




--
Dave & Marie Davies

318-219-7868


Re: planer power drive height adjustment?

 

Another idea is to move the bed 20mm when you shut down. Then hit reset after you power up if it doesn't say 20mm.


Re: Alternative to Infinity Tools in USA

 

Whitehill tools is great as well and a little more economical.?



On Mon, Mar 13, 2023 at 8:46 AM Brian Turner <bjamesturner@...> wrote:
Yeah. I should have gone with them in the first place.

From Infinity i got the rail/style kit. the deep tennon kit. and the raise panel stuff for $3,000. Which is about half as much as the same stuff from Rangate. But obviously, now I see why. I dont know how any professional, or anyone who has clients to keep happy, can order from Infinity.?

Well looks like now I'll need to bite the bullet and go with Rangate anyway.?

On Mon, Mar 13, 2023 at 8:43?AM David Davies <myfinishingtouch@...> wrote:
Rangate
Dave Davies

On Mon, Mar 13, 2023 at 7:41?AM Brian Turner <bjamesturner@...> wrote:
I ordered about $3,000 worth of cutter heads and knives from Infinity Tools to help with a door project I have. I placed the order back on January 10th. They still have not sent the completed order to me and every time I call to ask they tell me its back ordered and will be shipped in two weeks. Obviously when I call two weeks later, they tell me "it will now be shipped in two more weeks".

Anyway, I'm pretty sure I just got scammed out of $3k. Which obviously sucks. But honestly at this point I just need to get the tooling to finish the project.?

Anyone know of a more trustworthy website where I can order cutter heads for rail/style door making kits? I would like to avoid router bits and instead use shaper cutter heads. But honestly at this point I would take anything just so i can make progress on this project.

-Brian




--
Dave & Marie Davies

318-219-7868


Re: Alternative to Infinity Tools in USA

 

Yeah. I should have gone with them in the first place.

From Infinity i got the rail/style kit. the deep tennon kit. and the raise panel stuff for $3,000. Which is about half as much as the same stuff from Rangate. But obviously, now I see why. I dont know how any professional, or anyone who has clients to keep happy, can order from Infinity.?

Well looks like now I'll need to bite the bullet and go with Rangate anyway.?

On Mon, Mar 13, 2023 at 8:43?AM David Davies <myfinishingtouch@...> wrote:
Rangate
Dave Davies

On Mon, Mar 13, 2023 at 7:41?AM Brian Turner <bjamesturner@...> wrote:
I ordered about $3,000 worth of cutter heads and knives from Infinity Tools to help with a door project I have. I placed the order back on January 10th. They still have not sent the completed order to me and every time I call to ask they tell me its back ordered and will be shipped in two weeks. Obviously when I call two weeks later, they tell me "it will now be shipped in two more weeks".

Anyway, I'm pretty sure I just got scammed out of $3k. Which obviously sucks. But honestly at this point I just need to get the tooling to finish the project.?

Anyone know of a more trustworthy website where I can order cutter heads for rail/style door making kits? I would like to avoid router bits and instead use shaper cutter heads. But honestly at this point I would take anything just so i can make progress on this project.

-Brian




--
Dave & Marie Davies

318-219-7868


Re: Alternative to Infinity Tools in USA

 

Rangate
Dave Davies

On Mon, Mar 13, 2023 at 7:41?AM Brian Turner <bjamesturner@...> wrote:
I ordered about $3,000 worth of cutter heads and knives from Infinity Tools to help with a door project I have. I placed the order back on January 10th. They still have not sent the completed order to me and every time I call to ask they tell me its back ordered and will be shipped in two weeks. Obviously when I call two weeks later, they tell me "it will now be shipped in two more weeks".

Anyway, I'm pretty sure I just got scammed out of $3k. Which obviously sucks. But honestly at this point I just need to get the tooling to finish the project.?

Anyone know of a more trustworthy website where I can order cutter heads for rail/style door making kits? I would like to avoid router bits and instead use shaper cutter heads. But honestly at this point I would take anything just so i can make progress on this project.

-Brian




--
Dave & Marie Davies

318-219-7868


Alternative to Infinity Tools in USA

 

I ordered about $3,000 worth of cutter heads and knives from Infinity Tools to help with a door project I have. I placed the order back on January 10th. They still have not sent the completed order to me and every time I call to ask they tell me its back ordered and will be shipped in two weeks. Obviously when I call two weeks later, they tell me "it will now be shipped in two more weeks".

Anyway, I'm pretty sure I just got scammed out of $3k. Which obviously sucks. But honestly at this point I just need to get the tooling to finish the project.?

Anyone know of a more trustworthy website where I can order cutter heads for rail/style door making kits? I would like to avoid router bits and instead use shaper cutter heads. But honestly at this point I would take anything just so i can make progress on this project.

-Brian



WTB Laguna Driftmaster fence #Bandsaw #wanted

 

I¡¯m on the hunt for a new in box or lightly used Laguna Driftmaster fence for re-sawing veneer.?


Please let me know if anyone has one going under-loved or knows where one can be found.?


Thanks!

Hammans


Re: Martin cutter blocks - which one tersa or xylent type carbide insert? #jointerplaner

 

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I built a 42¡± x 26¡± extension for my 25.5 jp
About 6¡¯ from outfeed roll,
Very handy , putting extensions on jointer bar style for 20¡± felder extensions and longer one with leg some day.

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martin/campshure/co/llc
mac campshure
7412 elmwood ave.
middleton, wi 53562-3106
608-332-2330?cell

Designing and building for 50 years


On Mar 12, 2023, at 11:14 AM, joelgelman via groups.io <joelgelman@...> wrote:

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I purchased those machines, and sold my TP-300 within 24 hours of placing it up for sale. ?I have known the dealer you are referring to for many years. ?It is not often that these become available recent model without too much use, and although the timing was not perfect, I found a way to make it happen as I did not think I would have that situation ever again. ?Now that I have them, I feel very fortunate, and while I did not "need" them, it is so much nicer and faster to process wood with separates, and I hope to have them until I can't do woodworking any more.

Personally, I would not get the folding planer infeed extension at this time, especially if you can confirm it can be easily added at a later time. ?I do not think you need support when feeding, but up to you. ?However, on the outfeed side, I think the 1500MM permanently fixed is very nice, especially if you use the "space saving configuration". ?It moves up and down with the table in a way that the wood always clears the overhanging jointer fence that protrudes behind the jointer. ?When you are feeding, nice to know you can feed multiple pieces or longer pieces, and they will not fall off the outfeed end.?

As for the Waxilit auto lubricator, maybe depends on your usage. ?For me, I like the Renaissance along with the Festool green Flies pads.

As an FYI, it is my understanding that you can't get the Waxilit table and the infeed fold-down together. ?One or the other. ?You may want to confirm that with the dealer. ?For me, I got the Waxilit I did not want, and that is of course the tradeoff for used, but for me it was worth it to not get everything exactly as I would have preferred due to the cost savings of used local over new. ?

I know a couple of people who have their machines against the wall and 1 that does not, and I think it is way nicer if you can have room to talk ?behind the planer (opposite the jointer) assuming you have them together. ?I moved a lot of things around to have that footprint, and am very happy I did that. ?

All personal preferences of course. ?Congratulations. ?