Re: Felder bandsaws versus x
Mark
It was pointed out to me a few months ago that there¡¯s a lot of historic discussion on this topic.? Easy to search.? But the summary (for me) is Lenox Tri-Master, 1¡±, 2-3 tooth.
Not cheap but really good.
Mike
On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 12:23 PM Mark Koury < mhkoury@...> wrote: Would some of you who do a lot of resawing please mention your choice of blade? Mark
I don't have one and someone with one will likely respond but I don't understand how the single wheel $1,600 feeder
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doesn't work as well as the $4,000 heavy duty feeder
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My not understanding the benefits of the different powered feeders is coming from my hand feeding background with the Aigner pressure module.
Dave Davies On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 12:48 PM Fred Rossi < fred@...> wrote: Thanks. I¡¯ve only seen single level versions.? What are your thoughts about using the power feeder on the shaper? Fred, ? ??Here's? a picture of the setup.? The Aigner bits can be purchased from Martin, Simantech, or SCOSARG ( in the UK) Dave Davies
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On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 12:31 PM Fred Rossi < fred@...> wrote: Dave, I have the same machine and have thought about adding a power feeder as well. 1) what are the Aigner pressure modules you mentioned and how are they attached? 2) I wonder if positioning my Felder shaper next to the bandsaw and using the shaper power feeder against the bandsaw would work. Thoughts?
Fred Rossi? I have an SCM 24" bandsaw and haven't had any complaints.? I keep thinking I need to get a powerfeeder for it but manage using Aigner pressure modules. Dave Davies
On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 11:57 AM Brian Greene < Brian@...> wrote: Good morning,
I¡¯ve had my heart set on an Italian laguna for a while now, in the 18¡± resaw master range.
Should I be considering equal sized felder or other machines?
Thanks,
Brian
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Re: Router Spindle Holding Ideas?
Can you drill an appropriately sized hole in a hefty block of wood, then cut the block in half through the center of the hole, and use that to clamp the spindle in a stout vice to hold it?
Cheers
Claudio
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Re: Felder bandsaws versus x
Would some of you who do a lot of resawing please mention your choice of blade?
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I don't have one and someone with one will likely respond but I don't understand how the single wheel $1,600 feeder
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doesn't work as well as the $4,000 heavy duty feeder
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My not understanding the benefits of the different powered feeders is coming from my hand feeding background with the Aigner pressure module.
Dave Davies On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 12:48 PM Fred Rossi < fred@...> wrote: Thanks. I¡¯ve only seen single level versions.? What are your thoughts about using the power feeder on the shaper? Fred, ? ??Here's? a picture of the setup.? The Aigner bits can be purchased from Martin, Simantech, or SCOSARG ( in the UK) Dave Davies
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On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 12:31 PM Fred Rossi < fred@...> wrote: Dave, I have the same machine and have thought about adding a power feeder as well. 1) what are the Aigner pressure modules you mentioned and how are they attached? 2) I wonder if positioning my Felder shaper next to the bandsaw and using the shaper power feeder against the bandsaw would work. Thoughts?
Fred Rossi? I have an SCM 24" bandsaw and haven't had any complaints.? I keep thinking I need to get a powerfeeder for it but manage using Aigner pressure modules. Dave Davies
On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 11:57 AM Brian Greene < Brian@...> wrote: Good morning,
I¡¯ve had my heart set on an Italian laguna for a while now, in the 18¡± resaw master range.
Should I be considering equal sized felder or other machines?
Thanks,
Brian
--?
Dave & Marie Davies
318-219-7868
_____________________
Fred Rossi 617.905.6497
--?
Dave & Marie Davies
318-219-7868
_____________________
Fred Rossi 617.905.6497
--?Dave & Marie Davies
318-219-7868
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Re: Router Spindle Holding Ideas?
Brian,
Agreed.? Impact would be where I would start.? I have had amazing luck with what seemed the most seized fasteners.
PK
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Re: Router Spindle Holding Ideas?
Turn it 90? in the vise so the slots dig into the wood jaws. That might hold it rotationally well enough to get it loose. Also, it might toast your socket, but an impact wrench would be much more effective at breaking it loose. Make sure threads are right or left handed and that you are trying to loosen in the correct direction.
Brian Lamb
blamb11@...
www.lambtoolworks.com
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On Jan 18, 2022, at 1:11 PM, imranindiana <imranindiana@...> wrote:
Well, I am having no luck in holding the router spindle in vice to remove the spanner nut. I am not much of a gearhead so ideas are welcome. Below is a summary of what I have tried with no luck. Oh! I did use penetrating oil as well.
I am trying to hold it with the two 66mm collars as shown below - collars and shaft are one solid piece. The bearings are on the outside of each of these collars.
Spanner nur socket is homemade but fits perfectly.
After above did not work, I tried wrapping a bicycle tube around both collars and switched wooden jaws with steel ones on the vice but still no luck. The spindle rotates. Tried selectively heating the socket and the spanner nut through the gaps between pins (with heat gun) but no enchilada.
I have spanner wrenches coming today . One could go on the very top nut with two slots (top arrow in pic below). It should helps stop the rotation, but not sure which one of the two would loosen first. If the top collar loosens, then maybe after removing the top bearing, I can shift the spindle in vice where part of the lower collar is outside the vice and then I can place the spanner wrench on that part.
Imran
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Router Spindle Holding Ideas?
Well, I am having no luck in holding the router spindle in vice to remove the spanner nut. I am not much of a gearhead so ideas are welcome. Below is a summary of what I have tried with no luck. Oh! I did use penetrating oil as well.
I am trying to hold it with the two 66mm collars as shown below - collars and shaft are one solid piece. The bearings are on the outside of each of these collars.
Spanner nur socket is homemade but fits perfectly.
After above did not work, I tried wrapping a bicycle tube around both collars and switched wooden jaws with steel ones on the vice but still no luck. The spindle rotates. Tried selectively heating the socket and the spanner nut through the gaps between pins (with heat gun) but no enchilada.
I have spanner wrenches coming today . One could go on the very top nut with two slots (top arrow in pic below). It should helps stop the rotation, but not sure which one of the two would loosen first. If the top collar loosens, then maybe after removing the top bearing, I can shift the spindle in vice where part of the lower collar is outside the vice and then I can place the spanner wrench on that part.
Imran
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Re: Felder bandsaws versus x
Bandsaw Power Feeder- I love having one on the?machine, hate taking it off. In my opinion, a bandsaw power feeder necessitates having multiple bandsaws to regain versatility. I also don't think that a power feeder is that helpful until you start resawing wide boards 6+" with long lengths and much regularity. Having to slow down A LOT on feed rates the wider the boards get to still keep a great finished surface, hand feeding will certainly get you there just fine.
I didn't adopt the Aigner accessory system until I was doing some upgrades a year or so ago, and I added Aigner rails to my bandsaws and it's surprising how much I use them, I wish I had them long long ago! The Aigner catalog is filled with solutions to problems that work if you are willing to shape your mindset. I like fitting into an engineered system, seems to make unique setups less cumbersome than making my own jigs and such.
But for bandsaw recommendations, my experience shows that a lot of older machines work great and better than newer machines because the fundamentals were preserved in their design. I wouldn't settle for less than ceramic guides, and I would compare competing machines by table size, overall weight, and deliverable horsepower (including the motor-class-duty rating), and lastly - the actual availability in pandemic times might swing the economics of any deal.
I don't have one and someone with one will likely respond but I don't understand how the single wheel $1,600 feeder
doesn't work as well as the $4,000 heavy duty feeder
My not understanding the benefits of the different powered feeders is coming from my hand feeding background with the Aigner pressure module.
Dave Davies
On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 12:48 PM Fred Rossi < fred@...> wrote: Thanks. I¡¯ve only seen single level versions.? What are your thoughts about using the power feeder on the shaper? Fred, ? ? Here's? a picture of the setup.? The Aigner bits can be purchased from Martin, Simantech, or SCOSARG ( in the UK) Dave Davies
On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 12:31 PM Fred Rossi < fred@...> wrote: Dave, I have the same machine and have thought about adding a power feeder as well. 1) what are the Aigner pressure modules you mentioned and how are they attached? 2) I wonder if positioning my Felder shaper next to the bandsaw and using the shaper power feeder against the bandsaw would work. Thoughts?
Fred Rossi? I have an SCM 24" bandsaw and haven't had any complaints.? I keep thinking I need to get a powerfeeder for it but manage using Aigner pressure modules. Dave Davies
On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 11:57 AM Brian Greene < Brian@...> wrote: Good morning,
I¡¯ve had my heart set on an Italian laguna for a while now, in the 18¡± resaw master range.
Should I be considering equal sized felder or other machines?
Thanks,
Brian
--
Dave & Marie Davies
318-219-7868
_____________________
Fred Rossi 617.905.6497
--
Dave & Marie Davies
318-219-7868
_____________________
Fred Rossi 617.905.6497
--
Dave & Marie Davies
318-219-7868
-- Brett Wissel Saint Louis Restoration 1831 S Kingshighway Blvd (at Shaw Blvd) St Louis, MO 63110 314.772.2167 brett@...
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I would look at DMS out of Colorado, they make the Patriot machines (Who SCMI is now peddling as well). All ball screw, extremely stout. If¡¯n I had the money, that is the one I¡¯d be looking at.
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Hey all,
In the market for a 4x8' or 5x10' industrial CNC, any recommendations? Right now leaning toward a Shop Sabre IS 408.
Any advice appreciated, thanks!
Chris
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Re: Best dust extraction solution for Hammer table saw
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Re: Felder bandsaws versus x
I don't have one and someone with one will likely respond but I don't understand how the single wheel $1,600 feeder
doesn't work as well as the $4,000 heavy duty feeder
My not understanding the benefits of the different powered feeders is coming from my hand feeding background with the Aigner pressure module.
Dave Davies
On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 12:48 PM Fred Rossi < fred@...> wrote: Thanks. I¡¯ve only seen single level versions.? What are your thoughts about using the power feeder on the shaper? Fred, ? ? Here's? a picture of the setup.? The Aigner bits can be purchased from Martin, Simantech, or SCOSARG ( in the UK) Dave Davies
On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 12:31 PM Fred Rossi < fred@...> wrote: Dave, I have the same machine and have thought about adding a power feeder as well. 1) what are the Aigner pressure modules you mentioned and how are they attached? 2) I wonder if positioning my Felder shaper next to the bandsaw and using the shaper power feeder against the bandsaw would work. Thoughts?
Fred Rossi? I have an SCM 24" bandsaw and haven't had any complaints.? I keep thinking I need to get a powerfeeder for it but manage using Aigner pressure modules. Dave Davies
On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 11:57 AM Brian Greene < Brian@...> wrote: Good morning,
I¡¯ve had my heart set on an Italian laguna for a while now, in the 18¡± resaw master range.
Should I be considering equal sized felder or other machines?
Thanks,
Brian
--
Dave & Marie Davies
318-219-7868
_____________________
Fred Rossi 617.905.6497
--
Dave & Marie Davies
318-219-7868
_____________________
Fred Rossi 617.905.6497
-- Dave & Marie Davies
318-219-7868
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Re: Felder bandsaws versus x
Thanks. I¡¯ve only seen single level versions.? What are your thoughts about using the power feeder on the shaper?
Fred, ? ? Here's? a picture of the setup.? The Aigner bits can be purchased from Martin, Simantech, or SCOSARG ( in the UK) Dave Davies
On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 12:31 PM Fred Rossi < fred@...> wrote: Dave, I have the same machine and have thought about adding a power feeder as well. 1) what are the Aigner pressure modules you mentioned and how are they attached? 2) I wonder if positioning my Felder shaper next to the bandsaw and using the shaper power feeder against the bandsaw would work. Thoughts?
Fred Rossi? I have an SCM 24" bandsaw and haven't had any complaints.? I keep thinking I need to get a powerfeeder for it but manage using Aigner pressure modules. Dave Davies
On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 11:57 AM Brian Greene < Brian@...> wrote: Good morning,
I¡¯ve had my heart set on an Italian laguna for a while now, in the 18¡± resaw master range.
Should I be considering equal sized felder or other machines?
Thanks,
Brian
--
Dave & Marie Davies
318-219-7868
_____________________
Fred Rossi 617.905.6497
--
Dave & Marie Davies
318-219-7868
-- _____________________
Fred Rossi 617.905.6497
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Re: Felder bandsaws versus x
Fred, ? ? Here's? a picture of the setup.? The Aigner bits can be purchased from Martin, Simantech, or SCOSARG ( in the UK) Dave Davies
On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 12:31 PM Fred Rossi < fred@...> wrote: Dave, I have the same machine and have thought about adding a power feeder as well. 1) what are the Aigner pressure modules you mentioned and how are they attached? 2) I wonder if positioning my Felder shaper next to the bandsaw and using the shaper power feeder against the bandsaw would work. Thoughts?
Fred Rossi? I have an SCM 24" bandsaw and haven't had any complaints.? I keep thinking I need to get a powerfeeder for it but manage using Aigner pressure modules. Dave Davies
On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 11:57 AM Brian Greene < Brian@...> wrote: Good morning,
I¡¯ve had my heart set on an Italian laguna for a while now, in the 18¡± resaw master range.
Should I be considering equal sized felder or other machines?
Thanks,
Brian
--
Dave & Marie Davies
318-219-7868
_____________________
Fred Rossi 617.905.6497
-- Dave & Marie Davies
318-219-7868
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Re: Felder bandsaws versus x
Dave, I have the same machine and have thought about adding a power feeder as well. 1) what are the Aigner pressure modules you mentioned and how are they attached? 2) I wonder if positioning my Felder shaper next to the bandsaw and using the shaper power feeder against the bandsaw would work. Thoughts?
Fred Rossi?
I have an SCM 24" bandsaw and haven't had any complaints.? I keep thinking I need to get a powerfeeder for it but manage using Aigner pressure modules. Dave Davies
On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 11:57 AM Brian Greene < Brian@...> wrote: Good morning,
I¡¯ve had my heart set on an Italian laguna for a while now, in the 18¡± resaw master range.
Should I be considering equal sized felder or other machines?
Thanks,
Brian
--
Dave & Marie Davies
318-219-7868
-- _____________________
Fred Rossi 617.905.6497
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Re: Felder bandsaws versus x
I had a Laguna 16 HD for 20 years and it was great.? Recently had the chance to upgrade to a Felder 610.? No difference in quality, just size (imo).
On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 9:57 AM Brian Greene < Brian@...> wrote: Good morning,
I¡¯ve had my heart set on an Italian laguna for a while now, in the 18¡± resaw master range.
Should I be considering equal sized felder or other machines?
Thanks,
Brian
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Re: Felder bandsaws versus x
I have an SCM 24" bandsaw and haven't had any complaints.? I keep thinking I need to get a powerfeeder for it but manage using Aigner pressure modules. Dave Davies
On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 11:57 AM Brian Greene < Brian@...> wrote: Good morning,
I¡¯ve had my heart set on an Italian laguna for a while now, in the 18¡± resaw master range.
Should I be considering equal sized felder or other machines?
Thanks,
Brian
-- Dave & Marie Davies
318-219-7868
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Good morning,
I¡¯ve had my heart set on an Italian laguna for a while now, in the 18¡± resaw master range.
Should I be considering equal sized felder or other machines?
Thanks,
Brian
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Re: Multi-Router with dust collection
I think it would reduce the cut depth further to the multi router if the PantoRouter dust shroud was installed on the multi router.
James
I wonder why they didn't develop something on the other side of the router like the Pantorouter dust shroud?
?Dave Davies
Finally, the multi router has the dust collection after 34 years !?
James
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Dave & Marie Davies
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Re: Multi-Router with dust collection
I wonder why they didn't develop something on the other side of the router like the Pantorouter dust shroud?
?Dave Davies
Finally, the multi router has the dust collection after 34 years !?
James
-- Dave & Marie Davies
318-219-7868
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I have a Shopsabre PRO 4x8. I can't say enough about process and the machine itself. I use it mostly for furniture parts, templates, and some signage and carving of logos, etc. in desktops, tabletops, etc. Solid, well-built machine. Anytime I have a question the answer is just a phone call away. They are very service oriented, which is important as I am still (after 2 years) still a novice at using the CNC. I use Mozaik for cabinet parts and Vcarve PRO and Aspire for most other stuff.
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Kerry Smith
Gotham Woodworks
www.gothamwoodworks.com
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Re: Multi-Router with dust collection
Very interesting!? I've tried a few things on mine, but mostly gave up, might be worth a try to fab up something like that.?
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