Re: Electrical Problem with CF731 Pro
Did you check your saw start button? They tend to get dust inside them and malfunction. Each green button is Normally Open and when you push it, the circuit connects and starts the motor. Each function has it’s own start button. The stop buttons are all in a string, so if any of them are pushed, it will stop any function/motor on the machine.
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Hello.? I've been experiencing exasperating problems with the start function on my machine. I can now probably write a book about this, but suffice to say that when the selector switch is set to Table Saw, the machine fails to start.? I've worked quite a bit with Phillip Dingus at Felder.? He's been a champion, but we've failed to figure out what is happening.? I sprung for a whopping $700 to buy a new selector switch, which I meticulously installed, terminal for terminal, wire for wire, with zero effect.? The machine will start when set to J/P and Shaper, in forward or reverse, but any time the selector passes through TDC (which is the Table Saw), no machine will subsequently start.? I am wondering if there is anyone in the group who is sufficiently wise in the ways of electrical engineering to help me through the wiring diagram to perhaps pinpoint what is going wrong.? I have also traced every single wire in the machine, and compared the "as-is" wiring to the wiring diagram furnished by Felder.? There are some anomalies, but the machine worked flawlessly as wired for 19-1/2 years, so...go figure.? Any ideas of where to turn?? Thanks!? Greg
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If anyone can come up with a working ZCI for the K975..I'll buy 4 of them..just saying..
On Wednesday, January 20, 2021, 06:34:35 AM PST, Brian Lamb <blamb11@...> wrote:
Nice work! I love my 3D printer, especially for this kind of stuff.
So I decided I needed a zci for the new k940, thought I would get away without one but here I am... I reached out to David Best as I knew he had made one for the kappa. The k940 saw unit, top casting and 3 plastic segments appear to be the same however I have the LED lights so wasn’t sure if David would be willing to modify his design and if it would be worth the time/cost to do so. After a few back and forth emails David decided to not take it on, a few key dimensions were slightly different and could require a few iterations to get it right which I agreed.?
David was so kind in allowing me to use his drawings, however after I started to model it and compared it to my parts in hand it wasn’t adding up so I had to abandon the drawings given and just start from scratch from my actual parts.
So the first task was to model the LED section first as it is the most difficult to work out, then 3d print, check fit and make adjustments (done) After that 3d print all the parts to confirm (tomorrow) and finally have machined in aluminum (tbd)
The other unknown was how was the LED installed, the only way to find out was to remove it which would obviously void the warranty but after studying the elect schematic and looking at the parts drawings I convinced myself that it was no big deal and easy to fix if I screwed up the LED strip.?
So here are some progress pics... note, the 3d printed LED section is short due the the 3D printer bed not being long enough, a bolt hole is missing so it is not tight against the cast...
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Below is the auto score feature in action with the as delivered LED section?
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Nice work! I love my 3D printer, especially for this kind of stuff.
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So I decided I needed a zci for the new k940, thought I would get away without one but here I am... I reached out to David Best as I knew he had made one for the kappa. The k940 saw unit, top casting and 3 plastic segments appear to be the same however I have the LED lights so wasn’t sure if David would be willing to modify his design and if it would be worth the time/cost to do so. After a few back and forth emails David decided to not take it on, a few key dimensions were slightly different and could require a few iterations to get it right which I agreed.?
David was so kind in allowing me to use his drawings, however after I started to model it and compared it to my parts in hand it wasn’t adding up so I had to abandon the drawings given and just start from scratch from my actual parts.
So the first task was to model the LED section first as it is the most difficult to work out, then 3d print, check fit and make adjustments (done) After that 3d print all the parts to confirm (tomorrow) and finally have machined in aluminum (tbd)
The other unknown was how was the LED installed, the only way to find out was to remove it which would obviously void the warranty but after studying the elect schematic and looking at the parts drawings I convinced myself that it was no big deal and easy to fix if I screwed up the LED strip.?
So here are some progress pics... note, the 3d printed LED section is short due the the 3D printer bed not being long enough, a bolt hole is missing so it is not tight against the cast...
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Below is the auto score feature in action with the as delivered LED section?
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Re: Power feeder mount Hammer C3-31
Hi Roger,
I worked with a few folks, sorry that I forgot. That is just too bad that there is no solution for hammer.
You know if one is unable to flip the PF or likely to sustain an injury doing so, a hoist can be used as a last resort - A very slow moving one. That was actually my first attempt. an electric one from HF which was way too fast. Once I moved my entire machine, scary. Would not recommend it.
As I write this, I realize that there is a kill switch on the hoist (a puck like thing contacts the kill switch). This puck normally resides at the end of the rope and turns motor off when rope is completely rewound. I have not checked but if that can be moved and fixed along the rope, one can automatically kill the hoist before reaching the max rotation of the PF. Then push it by hand over the fulcrum and then release the hoist to bring it down. This may make it safe to use the cheap HF hoist.
Imran?
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On Jan 20, 2021, at 12:14 AM, Roger S <rsinden@...> wrote: ? Imran, if ypou recall we had ths discussion a while back and I sent some photos. ?The conclusion was that there was no room.
Roger
All you need is a lip to screw the custom bracket. I can lift my beast Vario4 with 2 fingers. Some felder combos don’t have the 1.75” space required, so not sure if hammer has the room. All parts run about $60 for the setup.
Imran ?Thanks Imran,
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? It is a different bracket and according to Felder, the gas strut is not suitable, but they say that about the spiral cutter as a retro fit!
The bracket is specific to H32, HC308 and C3-31.
Regards,
Trevor
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Looks Awesome. What is the white blob looking thing at the end of LED strip?
So looks like you are recreating what felder supplies. Is this 1st step to make ZCI?
I need one terribly for K975. I bought 2 for KF700 and never installed them. It was not bad because I do not have scoring. I think scoring just exacerbates the situation and cutoffs are violent. IMHO, OEM should consider ZCI implementation when designing the saw.
Imran
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On Jan 19, 2021, at 11:27 PM, Mark Kessler <mkessler10@...> wrote: ? So I decided I needed a zci for the new k940, thought I would get away without one but here I am... I reached out to David Best as I knew he had made one for the kappa. The k940 saw unit, top casting and 3 plastic segments appear to be the same however I have the LED lights so wasn’t sure if David would be willing to modify his design and if it would be worth the time/cost to do so. After a few back and forth emails David decided to not take it on, a few key dimensions were slightly different and could require a few iterations to get it right which I agreed.?
David was so kind in allowing me to use his drawings, however after I started to model it and compared it to my parts in hand it wasn’t adding up so I had to abandon the drawings given and just start from scratch from my actual parts.
So the first task was to model the LED section first as it is the most difficult to work out, then 3d print, check fit and make adjustments (done) After that 3d print all the parts to confirm (tomorrow) and finally have machined in aluminum (tbd)
The other unknown was how was the LED installed, the only way to find out was to remove it which would obviously void the warranty but after studying the elect schematic and looking at the parts drawings I convinced myself that it was no big deal and easy to fix if I screwed up the LED strip.?
So here are some progress pics... note, the 3d printed LED section is short due the the 3D printer bed not being long enough, a bolt hole is missing so it is not tight against the cast...
??
Below is the auto score feature in action with the as delivered LED section? <image0.png> <image1.png> <image2.png> <image3.jpeg> <image4.jpeg> <image5.jpeg> <image6.jpeg> <Video.MOV>
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I confess I had to google "flying spur" . . .? I figured that was
what happened when a cowboy gets thrown from his horse.
--
Michael Garrison Stuber
On 1/19/2021 9:46 PM, David Kumm wrote:
About 15 years ago I had a new Audi A8L and it was sweet.? The
first Badger game I parked it in the private garage and thought
I was hot shit.? Came out after the game and next to it was a
new Flying Spur.? There was absolutely no comparison.? Deflating
but real life and lesson learned.? Dave
And I figured it would be Bentley.?
David Best - via mobile phone?
?
Aston-Martin.? Dave
Which would you
prefer? ? A turntable branded Hammer, Felder,
Format-4, Martin, or Mercedes-Benz ? ?ROFLMAO.
On Jan 19, 2021, at 5:20 PM,
David Kumm < davekumm@...>
wrote:
I have one saw that I wish was on a
turntable.? It is in a single bay part of
the garage.? Long rips in one direction
but need to turn it for long crosscuts.?
Easier to go to the other building than
reconfigure.? Dave
?Well? Thanks for
that.?? So my assumption was in
error?? One doesn't do? anything with
a turn table ON a saw.? One puts the
Saw ON a turn table.
I am a little
nonplussed though.?? I am unable to?
imagine the utility? of turning one's
saw round and round.? What's the up
side?? Sales? Showroom stuff?
Anyway I could make
you one.???
You
will have to provide me five guys to
help me get the plate on and off my
mill.?
?
On
1/17/21 12:03 AM, imranindiana via??wrote:
Cliff,
turntable is
not on the saw, rather saw is on the
turn table
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Imran
?
I gotta ask.??
What? does one do with a turn
table on a sliding saw? or any
table saw?
On
1/16/21 3:22 PM, Paul Curme wrote:
Does anyone
have a copy of the drawing of
the top mounting plate for the
almost mythical turntable for
the BF6.
I remember mounting a 6-41 M
on one for an exhibition in
1994 while working for the
guys that were the uk sales
agent back then but cant
figure out the centre point of
rotation for my machine as its
not as straight forward as one
might expect. Because we got
it wrong at the 1st attempt.
I've located a potential
bearing that is the right size
and load capacity. But need
the top plate layout, because
the layout is to close to
guess.
Catalog picture without the
machine would do at a pinch.
Thanks in advance.
Sent from my Windows Phone
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Michael Garrison Stuber
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About 15 years ago I had a new Audi A8L and it was sweet.? The first Badger game I parked it in the private garage and thought I was hot shit.? Came out after the game and next to it was a new Flying Spur.? There was absolutely no comparison.? Deflating but
real life and lesson learned.? Dave
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And I figured it would be Bentley.?
David Best - via mobile phone?
On Jan 19, 2021, at 8:29 PM, David Kumm <davekumm@...> wrote:
?
Aston-Martin.? Dave
Which would you prefer? ? A turntable branded Hammer, Felder, Format-4, Martin, or Mercedes-Benz ? ?ROFLMAO.
On Jan 19, 2021, at 5:20 PM, David Kumm < davekumm@...> wrote:
I have one saw that I wish was on a turntable.? It is in a single bay part of the garage.? Long rips in one direction but need to turn it for long crosscuts.? Easier to go to the other building than reconfigure.? Dave
?Well? Thanks for that.?? So my assumption was in error?? One doesn't do? anything with a turn table ON a saw.? One puts the Saw ON a turn table.
I am a little nonplussed though.?? I am unable to? imagine the utility? of turning one's saw round and round.? What's the up side?? Sales? Showroom stuff?
Anyway I could make you one.???
You will have to provide me five guys to help me get the plate on and off my mill.?
?
On 1/17/21 12:03 AM, imranindiana via??wrote:
Cliff,
turntable is not on the saw, rather saw is on the turn table
<image0.jpeg>
Imran
?
I gotta ask.?? What? does one do with a turn table on a sliding saw? or any table saw?
On 1/16/21 3:22 PM, Paul Curme wrote:
Does anyone have a copy of the drawing of the top mounting plate for the almost mythical turntable for the BF6.
I remember mounting a 6-41 M on one for an exhibition in 1994 while working for the guys that were the uk sales agent back then but cant figure out the centre point of rotation for my machine as its not as straight forward as one might expect. Because we got
it wrong at the 1st attempt.
I've located a potential bearing that is the right size and load capacity. But need the top plate layout, because the layout is to close to guess.
Catalog picture without the machine would do at a pinch.
Thanks in advance.
Sent from my Windows Phone
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Re: Power feeder mount Hammer C3-31
Imran, if ypou recall we had ths discussion a while back and I sent some photos. ?The conclusion was that there was no room.
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All you need is a lip to screw the custom bracket. I can lift my beast Vario4 with 2 fingers. Some felder combos don’t have the 1.75” space required, so not sure if hammer has the room. All parts run about $60 for the setup.
Imran ?Thanks Imran,
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? It is a different bracket and according to Felder, the gas strut is not suitable, but they say that about the spiral cutter as a retro fit!
The bracket is specific to H32, HC308 and C3-31.
Regards,
Trevor
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And I figured it would be Bentley.? David Best - via mobile phone?
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On Jan 19, 2021, at 8:29 PM, David Kumm <davekumm@...> wrote:
?
Aston-Martin.? Dave
Which would you prefer? ? A turntable branded Hammer, Felder, Format-4, Martin, or Mercedes-Benz ? ?ROFLMAO.
On Jan 19, 2021, at 5:20 PM, David Kumm < davekumm@...> wrote:
I have one saw that I wish was on a turntable.? It is in a single bay part of the garage.? Long rips in one direction but need to turn it for long crosscuts.? Easier to go to the other building than reconfigure.? Dave
?Well? Thanks for that.?? So my assumption was in error?? One doesn't do? anything with a turn table ON a saw.? One puts the Saw ON a turn table.
I am a little nonplussed though.?? I am unable to? imagine the utility? of turning one's saw round and round.? What's the up side?? Sales? Showroom stuff?
Anyway I could make you one.???
You will have to provide me five guys to help me get the plate on and off my mill.?
?
On 1/17/21 12:03 AM, imranindiana via??wrote:
Cliff,
turntable is not on the saw, rather saw is on the turn table
<image0.jpeg>
Imran
?
I gotta ask.?? What? does one do with a turn table on a sliding saw? or any table saw?
On 1/16/21 3:22 PM, Paul Curme wrote:
Does anyone have a copy of the drawing of the top mounting plate for the almost mythical turntable for the BF6.
I remember mounting a 6-41 M on one for an exhibition in 1994 while working for the guys that were the uk sales agent back then but cant figure out the centre point of rotation for my machine as its not as straight forward as one might expect. Because we got
it wrong at the 1st attempt.
I've located a potential bearing that is the right size and load capacity. But need the top plate layout, because the layout is to close to guess.
Catalog picture without the machine would do at a pinch.
Thanks in advance.
Sent from my Windows Phone
|
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Which would you prefer? ? A turntable branded Hammer, Felder, Format-4, Martin, or Mercedes-Benz ? ?ROFLMAO.
On Jan 19, 2021, at 5:20 PM, David Kumm < davekumm@...> wrote:
I have one saw that I wish was on a turntable.? It is in a single bay part of the garage.? Long rips in one direction but need to turn it for long crosscuts.? Easier to go to the other building than reconfigure.? Dave
?Well? Thanks for that.?? So my assumption was in error?? One doesn't do? anything with a turn table ON a saw.? One puts the Saw ON a turn table.
I am a little nonplussed though.?? I am unable to? imagine the utility? of turning one's saw round and round.? What's the up side?? Sales? Showroom stuff?
Anyway I could make you one.???
You will have to provide me five guys to help me get the plate on and off my mill.?
?
On 1/17/21 12:03 AM, imranindiana via??wrote:
Cliff,
turntable is not on the saw, rather saw is on the turn table
<image0.jpeg>
Imran
?
I gotta ask.?? What? does one do with a turn table on a sliding saw? or any table saw?
On 1/16/21 3:22 PM, Paul Curme wrote:
Does anyone have a copy of the drawing of the top mounting plate for the almost mythical turntable for the BF6.
I remember mounting a 6-41 M on one for an exhibition in 1994 while working for the guys that were the uk sales agent back then but cant figure out the centre point of rotation for my machine as its not as straight forward as one might expect. Because we got
it wrong at the 1st attempt.
I've located a potential bearing that is the right size and load capacity. But need the top plate layout, because the layout is to close to guess.
Catalog picture without the machine would do at a pinch.
Thanks in advance.
Sent from my Windows Phone
|
So I decided I needed a zci for the new k940, thought I would get away without one but here I am... I reached out to David Best as I knew he had made one for the kappa. The k940 saw unit, top casting and 3 plastic segments appear to be the same however I have the LED lights so wasn’t sure if David would be willing to modify his design and if it would be worth the time/cost to do so. After a few back and forth emails David decided to not take it on, a few key dimensions were slightly different and could require a few iterations to get it right which I agreed.?
David was so kind in allowing me to use his drawings, however after I started to model it and compared it to my parts in hand it wasn’t adding up so I had to abandon the drawings given and just start from scratch from my actual parts.
So the first task was to model the LED section first as it is the most difficult to work out, then 3d print, check fit and make adjustments (done) After that 3d print all the parts to confirm (tomorrow) and finally have machined in aluminum (tbd)
The other unknown was how was the LED installed, the only way to find out was to remove it which would obviously void the warranty but after studying the elect schematic and looking at the parts drawings I convinced myself that it was no big deal and easy to fix if I screwed up the LED strip.?
So here are some progress pics... note, the 3d printed LED section is short due the the 3D printer bed not being long enough, a bolt hole is missing so it is not tight against the cast...
??
Below is the auto score feature in action with the as delivered LED section?
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Re: Tannewitz Blade Guide choices
Did you try Woodworkerstoolworks?? I have Wright guides on my 217 and Y20 and like them a lot.? They do support the blades well although I have resawed without any guides.? Dave
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The parts guy at Tannewitz expressed a strong preference for the old style blade guides.? He said the steel block style support the blade in two places and they contact
the width of the blade.? The bearing supports in one place and the bearing face is narrower.
?
The machine I bought has the Tannewitz for the upper guide and a Carter CP10 for the lower guide.
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of
Joe Jensen
Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2021 3:28 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [FOG] Tannewitz Blade Guide choices
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My Tannewitz came with their old style blade guides with steel wear strips.? Tannewitz now uses ball bearing type guides. I've emailed asking for pricing replacement wear strips and on new guides.? I did see one place selling replacement wear strips and the
set for upper and lower were like $700 !? To put things in perspective, the rear bearing on the original guides in 3" across. I found one new rear bearing assembly on ebay for like $70.? But I will need a second and all new wear strips.
I've been using Laguna ceramic guides for 20 years. I intend to primarily use the Tanny for resawing and plan to mount a resaw feeder to the table.
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Which would you prefer? ? A turntable branded Hammer, Felder, Format-4, Martin, or Mercedes-Benz ? ?ROFLMAO.
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On Jan 19, 2021, at 5:20 PM, David Kumm < davekumm@...> wrote:
I have one saw that I wish was on a turntable.? It is in a single bay part of the garage.? Long rips in one direction but need to turn it for long crosscuts.? Easier to go to the other building than reconfigure.? Dave
?Well? Thanks for that.?? So my assumption was in error?? One doesn't do? anything with a turn table ON a saw.? One puts the Saw ON a turn table. I am a little nonplussed though.?? I am unable to? imagine the utility? of turning one's saw round and round.? What's the up side?? Sales? Showroom stuff?
Anyway I could make you one.???
You will have to provide me five guys to help me get the plate on and off my mill.?
?
On 1/17/21 12:03 AM, imranindiana via??wrote:
Cliff,
turntable is not on the saw, rather saw is on the turn table
<image0.jpeg>
Imran ? I gotta ask.?? What? does one do with a turn table on a sliding saw? or any table saw?
On 1/16/21 3:22 PM, Paul Curme wrote:
Does anyone have a copy of the drawing of the top mounting plate for the almost mythical turntable for the BF6.
I remember mounting a 6-41 M on one for an exhibition in 1994 while working for the guys that were the uk sales agent back then but cant figure out the centre point of rotation for my machine as its not as straight forward as one might expect. Because we got it wrong at the 1st attempt.
I've located a potential bearing that is the right size and load capacity. But need the top plate layout, because the layout is to close to guess.
Catalog picture without the machine would do at a pinch.
Thanks in advance.
Sent from my Windows Phone
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A backup camera is cheaper and works nearly as well. ;)
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On Jan 19, 2021, at 10:12 PM, Patty & Steve Spear via groups.io <passpear@...> wrote:
? I took a tour of the old Duke Mansion in Charlotte, NC. They had a big turn table built into the floor of their garage. They drove their cars in forward, pushed a button and drove out forward. As I get older and my neck stiffer, I am starting to want one in my garage too.?
Steve On Jan 19, 2021, at 8:20 PM, David Kumm <davekumm@...> wrote:
?
I have one saw that I wish was on a turntable.? It is in a single bay part of the garage.? Long rips in one direction but need to turn it for long crosscuts.? Easier to go to the other building than reconfigure.? Dave
?Well? Thanks for that.?? So my assumption was in error?? One doesn't do? anything with a turn table ON a saw.? One puts the Saw ON a turn table.
I am a little nonplussed though.?? I am unable to? imagine the utility? of turning one's saw round and round.? What's the up side?? Sales? Showroom stuff?
Anyway I could make you one.??
You will have to provide me five guys to help me get the plate on and off my mill.
?
On 1/17/21 12:03 AM, imranindiana via groups.io wrote:
Cliff,
turntable is not on the saw, rather saw is on the turn table
Imran
?
I gotta ask.?? What? does one do with a turn table on a sliding saw? or any table saw?
On 1/16/21 3:22 PM, Paul Curme wrote:
Does anyone have a copy of the drawing of the top mounting plate for the almost mythical turntable for the BF6.
I remember mounting a 6-41 M on one for an exhibition in 1994 while working for the guys that were the uk sales agent back then but cant figure out the centre point of rotation for my machine as its not as straight forward as one might expect. Because we got
it wrong at the 1st attempt.
I've located a potential bearing that is the right size and load capacity. But need the top plate layout, because the layout is to close to guess.
Catalog picture without the machine would do at a pinch.
Thanks in advance.
Sent from my Windows Phone
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I took a tour of the old Duke Mansion in Charlotte, NC. They had a big turn table built into the floor of their garage. They drove their cars in forward, pushed a button and drove out forward. As I get older and my neck stiffer, I am starting to want one in my garage too.?
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On Jan 19, 2021, at 8:20 PM, David Kumm <davekumm@...> wrote:
?
I have one saw that I wish was on a turntable.? It is in a single bay part of the garage.? Long rips in one direction but need to turn it for long crosscuts.? Easier to go to the other building than reconfigure.? Dave
?Well? Thanks for that.?? So my assumption was in error?? One doesn't do? anything with a turn table ON a saw.? One puts the Saw ON a turn table.
I am a little nonplussed though.?? I am unable to? imagine the utility? of turning one's saw round and round.? What's the up side?? Sales? Showroom stuff?
Anyway I could make you one.??
You will have to provide me five guys to help me get the plate on and off my mill.
?
On 1/17/21 12:03 AM, imranindiana via groups.io wrote:
Cliff,
turntable is not on the saw, rather saw is on the turn table
Imran
?
I gotta ask.?? What? does one do with a turn table on a sliding saw? or any table saw?
On 1/16/21 3:22 PM, Paul Curme wrote:
Does anyone have a copy of the drawing of the top mounting plate for the almost mythical turntable for the BF6.
I remember mounting a 6-41 M on one for an exhibition in 1994 while working for the guys that were the uk sales agent back then but cant figure out the centre point of rotation for my machine as its not as straight forward as one might expect. Because we got
it wrong at the 1st attempt.
I've located a potential bearing that is the right size and load capacity. But need the top plate layout, because the layout is to close to guess.
Catalog picture without the machine would do at a pinch.
Thanks in advance.
Sent from my Windows Phone
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Re: Electrical Problem with CF731 Pro
Greg,
How do you revive it once no machine starts?
Did the selector switch come with a new knob?
Imran
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On Jan 19, 2021, at 9:45 PM, goldinarch@... wrote: ?Hello.? I've been experiencing exasperating problems with the start function on my machine. I can now probably write a book about this, but suffice to say that when the selector switch is set to Table Saw, the machine fails to start.? I've worked quite a bit with Phillip Dingus at Felder.? He's been a champion, but we've failed to figure out what is happening.? I sprung for a whopping $700 to buy a new selector switch, which I meticulously installed, terminal for terminal, wire for wire, with zero effect.? The machine will start when set to J/P and Shaper, in forward or reverse, but any time the selector passes through TDC (which is the Table Saw), no machine will subsequently start.? I am wondering if there is anyone in the group who is sufficiently wise in the ways of electrical engineering to help me through the wiring diagram to perhaps pinpoint what is going wrong.? I have also traced every single wire in the machine, and compared the "as-is" wiring to the wiring diagram furnished by Felder.? There are some anomalies, but the machine worked flawlessly as wired for 19-1/2 years, so...go figure.? Any ideas of where to turn?? Thanks!? Greg
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Electrical Problem with CF731 Pro
Hello.? I've been experiencing exasperating problems with the start function on my machine. I can now probably write a book about this, but suffice to say that when the selector switch is set to Table Saw, the machine fails to start.? I've worked quite a bit with Phillip Dingus at Felder.? He's been a champion, but we've failed to figure out what is happening.? I sprung for a whopping $700 to buy a new selector switch, which I meticulously installed, terminal for terminal, wire for wire, with zero effect.? The machine will start when set to J/P and Shaper, in forward or reverse, but any time the selector passes through TDC (which is the Table Saw), no machine will subsequently start.? I am wondering if there is anyone in the group who is sufficiently wise in the ways of electrical engineering to help me through the wiring diagram to perhaps pinpoint what is going wrong.? I have also traced every single wire in the machine, and compared the "as-is" wiring to the wiring diagram furnished by Felder.? There are some anomalies, but the machine worked flawlessly as wired for 19-1/2 years, so...go figure.? Any ideas of where to turn?? Thanks!? Greg
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Re: Tannewitz Blade Guide choices
The parts guy at Tannewitz expressed a strong preference for the old style blade guides.? He said the steel block style support the blade in two places
and they contact the width of the blade.? The bearing supports in one place and the bearing face is narrower.
?
The machine I bought has the Tannewitz for the upper guide and a Carter CP10 for the lower guide.
?
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From: [email protected] < [email protected]>
On Behalf Of Joe Jensen
Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2021 3:28 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [FOG] Tannewitz Blade Guide choices
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My Tannewitz came with their old style blade guides with steel wear strips.? Tannewitz now uses ball bearing type guides. I've emailed asking for pricing replacement wear strips and on new guides.? I did see one place selling replacement
wear strips and the set for upper and lower were like $700 !? To put things in perspective, the rear bearing on the original guides in 3" across. I found one new rear bearing assembly on ebay for like $70.? But I will need a second and all new wear strips.
I've been using Laguna ceramic guides for 20 years. I intend to primarily use the Tanny for resawing and plan to mount a resaw feeder to the table.
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You can do the same thing with a VFD and some simple programming.
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You need to make sure the motor is 3 phase and VFD rated
Need to know the max RPM rating of the fan
Know the FLA rating of the motor
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Program the VFD to automatically increase the RPM until you hit a current limit, I’d suggest something like 10% below FLA.? Also set a top RPM limit
below the fan rating.? You may find the fan make too much noise at top speed so lower the upper limit.
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Fans pull max current when moving max air.? If the line has a small port it’s not moving much air so the current is low.? The VFD will automatically
speed the motor up creating more suction pressure automatically
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On Behalf Of Jason Holtz
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2021 2:12 PM
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Subject: Re: [FOG] Clamp-Together pipe for dust collection
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I loved the Smart collector that was here for a while. I'd like to see them size it up for shops like mine in the 15-20hp range.
Jason Holtz
J. Holtz Furniture
3307 Snelling Ave. South
Minneapolis, MN 55406
612 432-2765
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Jason
J. Holtz Furniture
3307 Snelling Ave. South
Minneapolis, MN 55406
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I have one saw that I wish was on a turntable.? It is in a single bay part of the garage.? Long rips in one direction but need to turn it for long crosscuts.? Easier to go to the other building than reconfigure.? Dave
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?Well? Thanks for that.?? So my assumption was in error?? One doesn't do? anything with a turn table ON a saw.? One puts the Saw ON a turn table.
I am a little nonplussed though.?? I am unable to? imagine the utility? of turning one's saw round and round.? What's the up side?? Sales? Showroom stuff?
Anyway I could make you one.??
You will have to provide me five guys to help me get the plate on and off my mill.
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On 1/17/21 12:03 AM, imranindiana via groups.io wrote:
Cliff,
turntable is not on the saw, rather saw is on the turn table
Imran
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I gotta ask.?? What? does one do with a turn table on a sliding saw? or any table saw?
On 1/16/21 3:22 PM, Paul Curme wrote:
Does anyone have a copy of the drawing of the top mounting plate for the almost mythical turntable for the BF6.
I remember mounting a 6-41 M on one for an exhibition in 1994 while working for the guys that were the uk sales agent back then but cant figure out the centre point of rotation for my machine as its not as straight forward as one might expect. Because we got
it wrong at the 1st attempt.
I've located a potential bearing that is the right size and load capacity. But need the top plate layout, because the layout is to close to guess.
Catalog picture without the machine would do at a pinch.
Thanks in advance.
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