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Re: Storage of sheet goods
开云体育Here is my former plywood rack. I used both sides for whole sheets and the center for smaller scraps. It took a lot of floor space and was annoying to get to something not on top of the pile. I gave it away on Craigslist. I am a hobbyist, so I pretty much only buy what I need for a project, so most of my storage is scraps which fit under my CNC router. ? ? ? From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> on behalf of "imranindiana via groups.io" <imranindiana@...> ? joe, ? Joe not in NO brings a good point about access to both sides and refreshes memories. so i can add a few things: ? I can say that it was never something that i was pleased with. the purpose of casters for me was never to move it to a machine, rather necessary for me to get it out of the way. nothing i stored on it was too heavy - don’t recall storing full sheets. ? after having it, i believe, for shorts, best is to find a wasted space and stick it in there. i have a 4’x4’ stair landing ~3’ above floor accessible from one side and i may convert that into a matrix of cubbies for shorts. otherwise bins for vertical storage. ? for ply cutoffs the cart is just a vertical storage with a leaning wall. can be easily duplicated in a fixed location. ? just my $0.02. ? imran
?Joe, ? after I sold the cart like you posted I did what Jason has done and used drywall carts to move and store plywood for projects then put the leftovers on the cantilever rack.? ? Like Imran said the cart you posted can be hard to move when loaded parts because it is so big it requires too much space as you need to be able to access it from all sides and I remember having several sheets of plywood on it and having a difficult time because the it wanted roll when trying to get sheets from the inside. ? ? Using that cart really was an exercise in frustration. ? Joe not in NO ? ?
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Re: 3D printer usage for wood shop
开云体育Imran, I printed this on a Markforged the material is nylon with chopped carbon fiber, i will check cost tomorrow but I don’t think it was $20.Regards, Mark |
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I think the dust port adapter was printed in nylon. Nylon is about twice the price compared to PLA, which I used. Strength wise I don't think the adapter needed to be printed in nylon.
The diamond pattern was needed in order to both loose weight and to be sturdy. By using 30 degree angles I could minimize the overhang at the top of each diamond. 3D printers print layer by layer, so it's hard to print in mid air. Overhang up to approx 45 degree is ok. I learned this lesson while trying to print the below model. The round holes makes the overhang completely unsupported and the print didn't go very well. |
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开云体育the diamond perforated design is beautiful. material cost is very reasonable. IIRC, last datapoint was $20-$30 for the overhead saw guard rectangular to round dust port adapter. maybe it required a more robust material, for obvious reasons. imran On Oct 28, 2020, at 4:40 PM, michael@... wrote:
?Material cost for the 125 mm version is about 5 USD each. I went through some iterations, mostly to learn what I could print. Material cost for those varied from about 3 USD to 8 USD. The cheapest one was also the most complicated because I tried to remove as much material as possible, it took 25 hours to print. <Screenshot 2020-10-28 at 21.38.25.png> <Screenshot 2020-10-28 at 21.38.31.png>
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Material cost for the 125 mm version is about 5 USD each.
I went through some iterations, mostly to learn what I could print. Material cost for those varied from about 3 USD to 8 USD. The cheapest one was also the most complicated because I tried to remove as much material as possible, it took 25 hours to print. |
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开云体育awesome storage, not to mention the cool factor. beats my poor excuse made with scrap. does not hold RO90 paper. any idea how much these cost in just material? imran On Oct 28, 2020, at 4:08 PM, michael@... wrote:
?I have been thinking of getting a 3D printer for many years. I finally took the plunge about a week ago. Where ever I look I now see opportunities for 3D printed objects. There are also plenty of business opportunities, although I won't look into these before I've learned much more. Thought I might inspire some people here who are thinking about getting one. The coolest thing to me is that the things I create can be tailored exactly for my needs. I have queued a bunch of print jobs with sandpaper holders to the printer. Soon I'll have complete order in my sand paper piles. The measurements for these boxes are made to exactly match my Systainer drawers. 3D printing takes very long time, these boxes prints in about 7 hours each. But the important thing is that they'll print completely unattended. I print at night and prepare the printer for the next job in the morning. <Screenshot 2020-10-28 at 20.57.01.png>
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3D printer usage for wood shop
I have been thinking of getting a 3D printer for many years. I finally took the plunge about a week ago. Where ever I look I now see opportunities for 3D printed objects. There are also plenty of business opportunities, although I won't look into these before I've learned much more. Thought I might inspire some people here who are thinking about getting one. The coolest thing to me is that the things I create can be tailored exactly for my needs.
I have queued a bunch of print jobs with sandpaper holders to the printer. Soon I'll have complete order in my sand paper piles. The measurements for these boxes are made to exactly match my Systainer drawers. 3D printing takes very long time, these boxes prints in about 7 hours each. But the important thing is that they'll print completely unattended. I print at night and prepare the printer for the next job in the morning. |
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Re: Storage of sheet goods
开云体育joe, Joe not in NO brings a good point about access to both sides and refreshes memories. so i can add a few things: I can say that it was never something that i was pleased with. the purpose of casters for me was never to move it to a machine, rather necessary for me to get it out of the way. nothing i stored on it was too heavy - don’t recall storing full sheets. after having it, i believe, for shorts, best is to find a wasted space and stick it in there. i have a 4’x4’ stair landing ~3’ above floor accessible from one side and i may convert that into a matrix of cubbies for shorts. otherwise bins for vertical storage. for ply cutoffs the cart is just a vertical storage with a leaning wall. can be easily duplicated in a fixed location. just my $0.02. imran On Oct 28, 2020, at 1:58 PM, bacchus6015 via groups.io <joeinno@...> wrote:
?Joe, after I sold the cart like you posted I did what Jason has done and used drywall carts to move and store plywood for projects then put the leftovers on the cantilever rack.? Like Imran said the cart you posted can be hard to move when loaded parts because it is so big it requires too much space as you need to be able to access it from all sides and I remember having several sheets of plywood on it and having a difficult time because the it wanted roll when trying to get sheets from the inside. ? Using that cart really was an exercise in frustration. Joe not in NO
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Very nice setup! Bill Bélanger? On Wed, Oct 28, 2020 at 10:27 Mark McFarlane <markamcfarlane@...> wrote: I have a vertical storage rack with EMT conduit as dividers. If you keep a slot full there is no room for wood movement.? The rack is right at the end of my siding saw.? I can slide a sheet out and easily lay it on the slider. |
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We have a drywall cart that has a UMHW?base on it, holds 10-15 sheets depending on thickness. It has really nice 5" casters on it, all 4 swivel but 2 have the option to lock straight although we never do. It rolls perfectly across our asphalt driveway, even when covered in walnut tree debris. If sheets are going to be used in short order they just stay on the cart. If storage is needed for a bit longer, I can just unload it straight into the vertical rack. I just slide the sheet off one end, tilt it up on a corner and slide it standing up into the rack. When it's time to use it, slide it out of the rack and tilt it down right onto the saw. The only time I ever lift a sheet is when it's coming off the delivery truck and two of us do that so it's easy.
We also have the Hafele Adapta Cart (tilting one) It's okay, but not nearly as nice for moving stuff around as the other. It's big and clumsy in comparison and the wheels aren't as smooth. Jason Holtz J. Holtz Furniture 3307 Snelling Ave. South Minneapolis, MN 55406 612 432-2765 -- Jason J. Holtz Furniture 3307 Snelling Ave. South Minneapolis, MN 55406 |
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开云体育I bought 5” swivel casters rated for 1,000 lbs each.? Steel wheels with a small poly rim. ? From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
On Behalf Of imranindiana via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2020 12:25 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [FOG] Storage of sheet goods ? Joe, ? if you have space it should work for you. it can get heavy. i only issue with using it was maneuverability. i started with 2 turning casters and 2 fixed. due to tight space i sometimes had to push fixed caster side to side. i was planning to replace fixed with turning, just did not get to it. i think had 4 or 5” casters and bigger be better. ? imran
? My new one person hobby shop is 2400 sq ft so I’m ok on space.? I want to minimize the time spent digging through a stack to see what cutoffs I have to use. ? From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
On Behalf Of imranindiana via groups.io ? joe, ? You could have had this for $100 a month ago when I sold it on craigslist. You should be able to find plans online. it was 2’ wide at base and 6’ long. could store full sheets on one side. for someone like me who has trouble throwing stuff away it encouraged me to save more. it was always full.?It was always a bare to move so get bigger casters and took too much space. After K975, I could not even have it in my shop without it being in the way. ? <image005.jpg> <image006.jpg> <image007.jpg> ? Imran ? From: [email protected]
On Behalf Of Joe Jensen ? I have a few full sheets, and I always have some half sheets of BB ply on hand and lots of smaller leftovers that get used for jigs and such..? I plan to build something like this on wheels so I can use both sides.? I have the casters but have not yet designed it. ? <image008.jpg> ? From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
On Behalf Of tomruth@... ? Now that I'm 70 and still doing woodworking for a living, I store sheets vertically and use a skateboard to move them around.?Then I flop them on a bench next to my saw and then up onto the saw. Not the most graceful way to do things but it works for a one man shop. If I actually have to carry a sheet, I always use a simple handle extension tool made for sheet goods. When I had more room and helpers, horizontal racks were a nice way to go. |
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开云体育Joe, if you have space it should work for you. it can get heavy. i only issue with using it was maneuverability. i started with 2 turning casters and 2 fixed. due to tight space i sometimes had to push fixed caster side to side. i was planning to replace fixed with turning, just did not get to it. i think had 4 or 5” casters and bigger be better. imran On Oct 27, 2020, at 2:52 PM, Joe Jensen <joe.jensen@...> wrote:
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My new one person hobby shop is 2400 sq ft so I’m ok on space.? I want to minimize the time spent digging through a stack to see what cutoffs I have to use. ? From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
On Behalf Of imranindiana via groups.io ? joe, ? You could have had this for $100 a month ago when I sold it on craigslist. You should be able to find plans online. it was 2’ wide at base and 6’ long. could store full sheets on one side. for someone like me who has trouble throwing stuff away it encouraged me to save more. it was always full.?It was always a bare to move so get bigger casters and took too much space. After K975, I could not even have it in my shop without it being in the way. ? <image005.jpg>
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On Behalf Of Joe Jensen ? I have a few full sheets, and I always have some half sheets of BB ply on hand and lots of smaller leftovers that get used for jigs and such..? I plan to build something like this on wheels so I can use both sides.? I have the casters but have not yet designed it. ? <image008.jpg>
? From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
On Behalf Of tomruth@... ? Now that I'm 70 and still doing woodworking for a living, I store sheets vertically and use a skateboard to move them around.?Then I flop them on a bench next to my saw and then up onto the saw. Not the most graceful way to do things but it works for a one man shop. If I actually have to carry a sheet, I always use a simple handle extension tool made for sheet goods. When I had more room and helpers, horizontal racks were a nice way to go. |
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开云体育My new one person hobby shop is 2400 sq ft so I’m ok on space.? I want to minimize the time spent digging through a stack to see what cutoffs I have to use. ? From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
On Behalf Of imranindiana via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2020 11:24 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [FOG] Storage of sheet goods ? joe, ? You could have had this for $100 a month ago when I sold it on craigslist. You should be able to find plans online. it was 2’ wide at base and 6’ long. could store full sheets on one side. for someone like me who has trouble throwing stuff away it encouraged me to save more. it was always full.?It was always a bare to move so get bigger casters and took too much space. After K975, I could not even have it in my shop without it being in the way. ? ? Imran ? From: [email protected]
On Behalf Of Joe Jensen ? I have a few full sheets, and I always have some half sheets of BB ply on hand and lots of smaller leftovers that get used for jigs and such..? I plan to build something like this on wheels so I can use both sides.? I have the casters but have not yet designed it. ? ? From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
On Behalf Of tomruth@... ? Now that I'm 70 and still doing woodworking for a living, I store sheets vertically and use a skateboard to move them around.?Then I flop them on a bench next to my saw and then up onto the saw. Not the most graceful way to do things but it works for a one man shop. If I actually have to carry a sheet, I always use a simple handle extension tool made for sheet goods. When I had more room and helpers, horizontal racks were a nice way to go. |
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开云体育I have pieces or maybe 20 different types/sizes.? I stored vertically behind the shop made cantilever rack in the last shop.? If you have a ton of different types how did you handle that on the rack? ? From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
On Behalf Of bacchus6015 via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2020 11:09 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [FOG] Storage of sheet goods ? Joe, ? I made one of those carts, there are plans available online, ?it was huge space waster, ?I sold it shortly after I made it. ? ? I stored plywood on a cantilever rack and used a stacker to lift it up and down. ?I mostly worked with solid wood so the cantilever rack worked for that too. ? ? Joe no longer in New Orleans
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