Re: Used KF700 year 200 price check
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Hi Steve,
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Attached shows what the plastic dust collector "basket" should look like. I just posted measured currents of motors including 5.5KW and this might help you in determining your head room. The only other thing I would say is that I had the KF700 with 78" slider for 17 yrs and it served me fine as I was working and therefore a part time user. I cut ply with circular or track saw when needed. Once retired I wanted a dedicated saw, which I have now and KF is a dedicated shaper. Not sure if that trajectory would work for you. $3500 is not bad even for a shaper and you may get it for less due to missing items. For use as a shaper, you have a much better chance of aligning the short slider to near cast iron height than a longer slider. Anecdotally, I think 9' (110") slider are more common than 8'. You may have better luck finding that. Also, clamps (especially pneumatic) are wonderfully amazing on sliders. Manu of us use two for long rips or ply, so 9' is minimum for that scenario. Imran -----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] On Behalf Of Stephen Zielke Sent: Friday, March 05, 2021 10:43 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [FOG] Used KF700 year 200 price check Thanks Patrick & Imran for your thoughts. I was excited to see this saw come up in the Seattle market local to me, but then found it to be so-so in person. It's missing an eccentric clamp, table saw blade guard, and anything for the shaper beyond a fence: no hold downs or other safety feature items, which I would have thought an original shaper user would have thought necessary (even my Rojek has a bundle of different helpers for the shaper). The current owner only used it as a saw. It seems like the under the table shaper dust collector "basket" is half broken, unless it's normal that half the sphere is missing. Only the half connected to the dust tube leading to the exterior is there, so a lot of chips would fall down onto the spindle/belt, that seems wrong. Although the exterior of the body says it can take a high speed spindle, the E-shop part numbers suggest only more modern ones are stocked. I will have to contact my Felder salesperson. It's a pretty expensive part, I think I would probably just work a router table into an outfeed table extension (to utilize the slider) and keep the shaper for shaper sized cutters. That's what I did with the Rojek. The outrigger table is all fine and present. Just no eccentric hold down. The 3 phase is the problem - due to limited power at my subpanel, I talked to an electrician today. He advised me I should turn off my heat when using the saw and RPC, or I might blow the main under initial motor loading. No other tool in the shop exceeds 4.8hp (3.5KW) single phase, and most are less, so up until now my panel was always ok. It's 80' of difficult conduit pull, mostly underground, so I won't be upgrading. I know because I did it all myself when I was younger and more energetic. I agree about the 80".I was really searching for 98", to just squeak by with sheet goods. I'm already annoyed on enough occasions with the limits of my 5' saw, and 80" isn't much better. 10' is really common as a used saw, even 5' is somewhat common on the used saw-shaper or 5-in-1 market. But 8' seems really rare. I think this length issue (along with the RPC) will keep me looking for a used 8' while I save for another year or so to purchase new. My used budget is $5-6k at present, and I know new is $8-12k, depending on make and manuf. So I'm halfway to new. Great site (and so many more users than the tiny Minimax iogroups!). Steve |
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