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Comparing Zoom and Microsoft Teams #technology


 

HI everybody,

The comparison of Zoom and Bluejeans from a participant's & facilitator's perspectives was super-useful.? Does anybody have experience with both Zoom and Microsoft Teams?? I have a client whose IT department is saying that Microsoft Teams is more secure and therefore preferable.?

Thoughts?? Experience?

Thanks!

John
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I have used both and am not a fan of Microsoft Teams.? It is not intuitive as they would suggest and the whole brouhaha over Zoom security has been overplayed.? I think that Zoom is the superior product.??

Eric A. Keck
VP of Customer Success
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720-624-9885




On Tue, May 5, 2020 at 2:54 PM <john.smith@...> wrote:
HI everybody,

The comparison of Zoom and Bluejeans from a participant's & facilitator's perspectives was super-useful.? Does anybody have experience with both Zoom and Microsoft Teams?? I have a client whose IT department is saying that Microsoft Teams is more secure and therefore preferable.?

Thoughts?? Experience?

Thanks!

John
____________________
* John David Smith ~ Voice / text:?503.975.7799 ~ Skype & Twitter: smithjd?
* Portland, Oregon, USA?
** Society is basically good **


 

Zoom is effortless, and it does breakout sessions. It doesn't have project management capabilities like Teams. And while I think the furore over Zoom security has been overplayed, they did misrepresent their security, which concerns me. The upgrades they've added have made me feel better about it, but many clients are a no-go if they have privacy and security concerns.

On Tue, May 5, 2020 at 4:59 PM Eric Keck <ekeck@...> wrote:
I have used both and am not a fan of Microsoft Teams.? It is not intuitive as they would suggest and the whole brouhaha over Zoom security has been overplayed.? I think that Zoom is the superior product.??

Eric A. Keck
VP of Customer Success
ekeck@...
720-624-9885




On Tue, May 5, 2020 at 2:54 PM <john.smith@...> wrote:
HI everybody,

The comparison of Zoom and Bluejeans from a participant's & facilitator's perspectives was super-useful.? Does anybody have experience with both Zoom and Microsoft Teams?? I have a client whose IT department is saying that Microsoft Teams is more secure and therefore preferable.?

Thoughts?? Experience?

Thanks!

John
____________________
* John David Smith ~ Voice / text:?503.975.7799 ~ Skype & Twitter: smithjd?
* Portland, Oregon, USA?
** Society is basically good **



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I hate Teams. The permissions for guests, the inability to use the file-storage app and the call at the same time, the way Teams things in general are more likely to crash - for me and my collaborators, at least. Zoom is more intuitive, more well-known, easier to use with participants who have 'guest' profiles in the Teams space, generally more reliable and navigable.

Zoom, Jitsi, Google Meet, BlueJeans - anything but Teams!

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On Tue, May 5, 2020 at 5:17 PM Sherry Johnson <sherry@...> wrote:
Zoom is effortless, and it does breakout sessions. It doesn't have project management capabilities like Teams. And while I think the furore over Zoom security has been overplayed, they did misrepresent their security, which concerns me. The upgrades they've added have made me feel better about it, but many clients are a no-go if they have privacy and security concerns.

On Tue, May 5, 2020 at 4:59 PM Eric Keck <ekeck@...> wrote:
I have used both and am not a fan of Microsoft Teams.? It is not intuitive as they would suggest and the whole brouhaha over Zoom security has been overplayed.? I think that Zoom is the superior product.??

Eric A. Keck
VP of Customer Success
ekeck@...
720-624-9885




On Tue, May 5, 2020 at 2:54 PM <john.smith@...> wrote:
HI everybody,

The comparison of Zoom and Bluejeans from a participant's & facilitator's perspectives was super-useful.? Does anybody have experience with both Zoom and Microsoft Teams?? I have a client whose IT department is saying that Microsoft Teams is more secure and therefore preferable.?

Thoughts?? Experience?

Thanks!

John
____________________
* John David Smith ~ Voice / text:?503.975.7799 ~ Skype & Twitter: smithjd?
* Portland, Oregon, USA?
** Society is basically good **



--
Sherry P. Johnson, she/her
Facilitator, Engagement Consultant, and Complexity Coach
651.776.3060

To-do every day:
1.?sustain what works
?2.?nurture good patterns
?3.?stimulate growth
?4.?intervene with integrity


 

John: A client uses Teams to work with us in online working sessions. It's fine for a recurring meeting where access can be pre-approved and there is a longer term work relationship. My sense is for ad hoc meetings where "strangers" will attend, perhaps only once, there will be some overhead. I find the picture and sound quality quite good, comparable to Zoom. There are "channels" which are roughly analogous to rooms but not really workable as breakout session where attendance is fluid and/or uncertain. It's a "heavyweight" tool that assumes everyone works for the same firm. That can be a strength or a weakness depending upon? what kinds of meetings you are being asked to facilitate.

Sean Murphy 408-252-9676


On Tue, May 5, 2020 at 2:55 PM <john.smith@...> wrote:
HI everybody,

The comparison of Zoom and Bluejeans from a participant's & facilitator's perspectives was super-useful.? Does anybody have experience with both Zoom and Microsoft Teams?? I have a client whose IT department is saying that Microsoft Teams is more secure and therefore preferable.?

Thoughts?? Experience?

Thanks!

John
____________________
* John David Smith ~ Voice / text:?503.975.7799 ~ Skype & Twitter: smithjd?
* Portland, Oregon, USA?
** Society is basically good **


 

Zoom is a freeestanding videoconference app and it does that job really well.? In particular the breakout room function is very good, and annotation is possible.
MS Teams is part of the overall Microsoft architecture and integrates very well with the rest of the MS world if that's the world an organisation lives in.? It is a million miles better than Skype for Business, probably the worst app of its type ever.
So for a group working systematically in the world of Teams, access and participation are very good.? You can mimic breakout rooms simply by setting up meetings through different Team members, and moving from one to the other is very smooth giving participants more control than in Zoom.? However I am today about to work in Teams with a group of people from different organisations and there the permissions etc. are more problematic and different people have access to different functionalities.
There are dozens of apps to add? and this contributes to the characteristically overcomplicated Microsoft feel.? The Invision Freehand whiteboard is not bad but has to be added as an app and I've had problems with loading it.? There are several poll apps for instance and you can find most things including a closed caption feature.
My summary:? Teams is great for facilitating sessions within an organisation using the Microsoft environment (the facilitator can be added as a guest to the Team).
Zoom is still the best all rounder if you are bringing together people from different organisations.
Best wishes, Simon


 

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Thanks @simonwilson ¨C I found that a really helpful summary of what Teams can do if the audience are all part of the same organisation using MS and Teams as their platform.? I¡¯m trying to persuade organisations to use Zoom for video conferencing and collaborative working because of the functionality of the breakouts ¨C especially now that Zoom (5.0) has improved its security with end to end encryption.? Your post has made me wonder if Teams can do just as good a job ¨C especially since users are more likely to be familiar with it?

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Hello John -

You are probably looking for a very detailed comparison (like the one between Zoom and Bluejeans) with technical references. I can only give you a short experienced-based comparison:

1. most universities and business organisations (I work with) use MS Teams (for security reasons but also because Microsoft offers them a very good package deal). It's suitable for small team meetings (of 4 people) and for lectures/webinar kind of formats. The whole infrastructure that comes with it is probably the reason why many organisations go for it. (Infrastructure as in lots of possibilities to integrate tools, create quizzes, have sub-groups, use European servers if wished for, etc). I don't know what a Zoom professional account offers in this regard, I only use a basic licence. MS said they would provide some sort of breakout group functionality but I am not up to date - it should have been provided by May or so). Also, MS Teams is usually linked with Moodle so that you can switch between the two interfaces easily, which universities offer.

2. public organisations and universities use WebEx (for security reasons and for financial reasons, it's a bit frustrating, it's the worst learning experience for users - from my experience, but obviously the "safest" one as the least used one; after the Zoom bashing students refused to use Zoom, for example, but as Zoom offers the better conditions for interactive classes, they mostly (have to) use it again...)

3. Zoom is still preferred for interactive learning and facilitation of interactive sessions and tolerated by unversities (not by public organisations I work with) due to the breakout groop function and the fact that you can see more participants (than for example in Teams or WebEx)

4. a technical issue: I pre-assigned breakout groups on Zoom for a session with 22 people yesterday and it was a bit stressful. I could move participants between breakout groups but had to do it manually and that took quite some time, plus, it did not always work. From my experience, the lack of flexibility and the instability of tools and Internet is a major challenge. In interactive sessions with certain target groups I have to use a lot of different formats and tools to keep them motivated and to keep them attentive; for older target groups it's challenging because they have often no proper equipment or simply cannot handle the technology and therefore do not even try it, out of fear). But I realise point 4 was not what you were asking for here :-)

Greetings :-)

Christina


Am 05.05.2020 um 23:54 schrieb john.smith@...:
HI everybody,

The comparison of Zoom and Bluejeans from a participant's & facilitator's perspectives was super-useful.? Does anybody have experience with both Zoom and Microsoft Teams?? I have a client whose IT department is saying that Microsoft Teams is more secure and therefore preferable.?

Thoughts?? Experience?

Thanks!

John
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* John David Smith ~ Voice / text:?503.975.7799 ~ Skype & Twitter: smithjd?
* Portland, Oregon, USA?
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Hi Mike
My starting point is always 'go where the participants are'. As a 'platform agnostic' I look at what people are used to using and aim to use that.? That's particularly true for small numbers of sessions or one off events where you cannot expect much investment of time in learning a new tool. All of the platforms can do a good job (Zoom, Teams, Bluejeans, WebEx etc.) if the facilitator invests properly in the preparation.


 

Hi all

+?Teams video quality is very good.?

- Teams lacking breakout feature.
- At a time, you can see maximum of 4 people in the video calling (including yourself). Not yet came across the option to configure more than 4 people at at time.

Cheers
Cipson