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Re: Vision: Make running Liberating Structures online easy - feedback wanted #liberatingstructures #technology

 

This looks awesome, Kevon.

I think many facilitators try to do similar things with just Google Docs or some other general purpose tool, but I think they'll find what you've built makes the whole process much easier.? I signed up for your event (the links are below for anyone that didn't catch them) and I look forward to learning.

Lucas Cioffi
Lead Software Engineer, QiqoChat
Scarsdale, NY
917-528-1831





On Fri, Jul 3, 2020 at 10:58 PM Kevon <kevon.cheung@...> wrote:
Set up a few trial runs of LS on Toasty and a number of facilitators have signed up, if anyone is interested, do join us :)

Eastern time & Asia time:


Pacific time:


See you all!


Re: Vision: Make running Liberating Structures online easy - feedback wanted #liberatingstructures #technology

 

Set up a few trial runs of LS on Toasty and a number of facilitators have signed up, if anyone is interested, do join us :)

Eastern time & Asia time:


Pacific time:


See you all!


 

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Dear all,

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I want to use TRIZ online (with a small group of 13 people whom I will split into 3 subgroups in break out rooms) and am wondering about the following questions (it¡¯s first time TRIZ for me ?:

1)????? time frame: The onsite version seems too short to me (1-2-4-all time frame for 3 rounds seems not enough for people who have also to access a google doc and recod their lists) ¨C what is your experience, who many minutes did you allow for the group reflections?

2)????? I am not sure if I understood the instructions correctly: Do you really narrov down group¡¯s results by making them select their top ideas in each round? (as would be the logic for the integrated 1-2-4-all) For the people I am working with, it seems to make more sense to identify as many aspects as possiible. But then it would probably take aroud 1 hr to do TRIZ (I would leave out the dyads to save some time).

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3)????? Any learnings that I should know about when doing TRIZ online? (I did check the GD file that Nancy & colleagues offered in the group already, many thanks!!)

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Ruth

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Mag.a Ruth Picker, E.MA

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Facilitating Dialogue and Collaboration

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Kinderspitalg.4/13, 1090 Vienna, Austria

+43?676 7346689

www.ruthpicker.at

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Re: Vision: Make running Liberating Structures online easy - feedback wanted #liberatingstructures #technology

 

Hi Helen, this is awesome! Using toasts to gauge how people are feeling :D!


Re: Automatic translation into other languages

 

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This was shared a few months back on the Liberating Structures slack channel. I can¡¯t recall who shared it initially.?

?it¡¯s the closest I¡¯ve come across to really valuable learning made, an hugely grateful it made it into this forum.


We have tested AI options with multiple devices as a ¡®work around¡¯ and found none to be able to differentiate with accents sufficiently for a robust enough and accurate reflection of what has been said. We tested across English, Thai and German.?

I hope this helps
Best wishes
Maz


On 30 Jun 2020, at 23:39, Sarah Nehrling <sarah@...> wrote:

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I use a combination of transcription and translation to get video transcripts between English and French, but for recorded videos, NOT livestream.

I've heard about and maybe tested the ?option awhile ago. It wasn't stellar but it might have gotten better?

Cheers,
Sarah

Facilitator, Trainer, Coach, Learner? |? Virtual & In-Person Support?? | ??
Ed.M.,?Learning?&?Teaching?Program |?Harvard Graduate School of Education
Learning Travel Blogger ? | ??
@sfnehrling


On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 4:22 PM Kevon <kevon.cheung@...> wrote:
Agree this is a very hard problem that we probably don't have a solution yet, for auto transcription of English, recently I heard of this company () but I've not used them before. hope this helps!


Re: Automatic translation into other languages

 

I use a combination of transcription and translation to get video transcripts between English and French, but for recorded videos, NOT livestream.

I've heard about and maybe tested the ?option awhile ago. It wasn't stellar but it might have gotten better?

Cheers,
Sarah

Facilitator, Trainer, Coach, Learner? |? Virtual & In-Person Support?? | ??
Ed.M.,?Learning?&?Teaching?Program |?Harvard Graduate School of Education
Learning Travel Blogger ? | ??
@sfnehrling


On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 4:22 PM Kevon <kevon.cheung@...> wrote:
Agree this is a very hard problem that we probably don't have a solution yet, for auto transcription of English, recently I heard of this company () but I've not used them before. hope this helps!


Re: Automatic translation into other languages

 

Agree this is a very hard problem that we probably don't have a solution yet, for auto transcription of English, recently I heard of this company (https://otter.ai/) but I've not used them before. hope this helps!


Re: Automatic translation into other languages

 

Louise - I would love to tell you that this is exists. You've hit two major computing science problems at the same time:
- Accurate Real Time voice recognition
- Accurate Translation

To see how hard the first is, notice how well your smart speaker works when someone says: "Hey Google" or "Alexa". Probably ok if its trained for your voice, otherwise meh.

The best in current translation technology is google translate. They're much much better than most and even so they still make small but critical errors.

Sadly I don't think we're at the stage where the technology matches your desires.

Cheers
Mark

<louise@...> wrote:

Hi all,

Some of the threads I¡¯ve been reading took my breath away with awe, and I¡¯m so grateful that each person shares in their unique personal way, thanks for the richness of sharing.

Long story short: I run a not for profit structure and everything is underway to redevelop our face to face training so it can be accessed virtually in 1 month.?

Can you recommend a video platform (like Zoom) which automatically translates what a presenter says into different languages so non-English speakers can follow content?

I¡¯m presuming that a translation would use AI and produces subtitles...

If you have some experience of using a tool like this, would you be willing to write in 1 or 2 phrases the pros and cons as you see them?
And what happens in breakout rooms? Can people still use translation to understand each other in small groups?

Warm regards,

Louise

Louise Romain
Director
Peace Factory
11170 Montolieu
France


Le 30 juin 2020 ¨¤ 18:59, BEVAN, Helen (NHS ENGLAND & NHS IMPROVEMENT - X24) via <helen.bevan2=nhs.net@groups.io> a ¨¦crit?:

Hi Kevon,

Re Toasty:

I¡¯ve got a fun activity that I often run at the beginning and end of a virtual session to gauge how people are feeling (and how feelings have shifted over the course of the virtual session). It¡¯s based on toast so I thought I should tell you about it:


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I hate using other people¡¯s ideas without giving credit but I don¡¯t know the actual origin of it. Maybe someone else in the group will know.

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Best wishes

Helen

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From: f4c-response@groups.io <f4c-response@groups.io> On Behalf Of Kevon
Sent: 29 June 2020 11:24
To: f4c-response@groups.io
Subject: [f4c-response] Vision: Make running Liberating Structures online easy - feedback wanted #liberatingstructures #technology

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Hi all, let me quickly introduce myself. I'm Kevon and I run an interactive video conf platform called Toasty ( designed for facilitation & engagement.

We want to make it very easy for any meeting facilitator to engage their audience without juggling between different platforms, and so we have a series of engagement activities that the host can grab, customize, and use to drive conversations and collaborations.

Recently we've added some Liberating Structures templates to the platform, and what I want to seek help is for experienced facilitators to take a look and give feedback on how we can improve the set up of those templates.

I'd appreciate it so much if we can hear your insights!

Here are the steps for anyone interested:
1. Go to?and click the top right orange button
2. Sign up for a free trial account
3. Create a new session, pick a Liberating Structure template
4. Doing so will populate the structure using different "Toasty activities" - this is the interactions list that you can use to engage the audience during the live session
5. If you can, use another computer (or open another tab) to join as a participant and test run it
6. By now you should have tons of feedback! I'd love to hear them.

Thanks a lot,
Kevon




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Re: Automatic translation into other languages

 

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Hi all,

Some of the threads I¡¯ve been reading took my breath away with awe, and I¡¯m so grateful that each person shares in their unique personal way, thanks for the richness of sharing.

Long story short: I run a not for profit structure and everything is underway to redevelop our face to face training so it can be accessed virtually in 1 month.?

Can you recommend a video platform (like Zoom) which automatically translates what a presenter says into different languages so non-English speakers can follow content?

I¡¯m presuming that a translation would use AI and produces subtitles...

If you have some experience of using a tool like this, would you be willing to write in 1 or 2 phrases the pros and cons as you see them?
And what happens in breakout rooms? Can people still use translation to understand each other in small groups?

Warm regards,

Louise

Louise Romain
Director
Peace Factory
11170 Montolieu
France

?louise@...

Le 30 juin 2020 ¨¤ 18:59, BEVAN, Helen (NHS ENGLAND & NHS IMPROVEMENT - X24) via groups.io <helen.bevan2@...> a ¨¦crit?:

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Hi Kevon,

Re Toasty:

I¡¯ve got a fun activity that I often run at the beginning and end of a virtual session to gauge how people are feeling (and how feelings have shifted over the course of the virtual session). It¡¯s based on toast so I thought I should tell you about it:

<image001.jpg>

?

I hate using other people¡¯s ideas without giving credit but I don¡¯t know the actual origin of it. Maybe someone else in the group will know.

?

Best wishes

Helen

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Kevon
Sent: 29 June 2020 11:24
To: [email protected]
Subject: [f4c-response] Vision: Make running Liberating Structures online easy - feedback wanted #liberatingstructures #technology

?

Hi all, let me quickly introduce myself. I'm Kevon and I run an interactive video conf platform called Toasty ( designed for facilitation & engagement.

We want to make it very easy for any meeting facilitator to engage their audience without juggling between different platforms, and so we have a series of engagement activities that the host can grab, customize, and use to drive conversations and collaborations.

Recently we've added some Liberating Structures templates to the platform, and what I want to seek help is for experienced facilitators to take a look and give feedback on how we can improve the set up of those templates.

I'd appreciate it so much if we can hear your insights!

Here are the steps for anyone interested:
1. Go to?and click the top right orange button
2. Sign up for a free trial account
3. Create a new session, pick a Liberating Structure template
4. Doing so will populate the structure using different "Toasty activities" - this is the interactions list that you can use to engage the audience during the live session
5. If you can, use another computer (or open another tab) to join as a participant and test run it
6. By now you should have tons of feedback! I'd love to hear them.

Thanks a lot,
Kevon



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Re: Vision: Make running Liberating Structures online easy - feedback wanted #liberatingstructures #technology

 

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Hi Kevon,

Re Toasty:

I¡¯ve got a fun activity that I often run at the beginning and end of a virtual session to gauge how people are feeling (and how feelings have shifted over the course of the virtual session). It¡¯s based on toast so I thought I should tell you about it:

?

I hate using other people¡¯s ideas without giving credit but I don¡¯t know the actual origin of it. Maybe someone else in the group will know.

?

Best wishes

Helen

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Kevon
Sent: 29 June 2020 11:24
To: [email protected]
Subject: [f4c-response] Vision: Make running Liberating Structures online easy - feedback wanted #liberatingstructures #technology

?

Hi all, let me quickly introduce myself. I'm Kevon and I run an interactive video conf platform called Toasty ( designed for facilitation & engagement.

We want to make it very easy for any meeting facilitator to engage their audience without juggling between different platforms, and so we have a series of engagement activities that the host can grab, customize, and use to drive conversations and collaborations.

Recently we've added some Liberating Structures templates to the platform, and what I want to seek help is for experienced facilitators to take a look and give feedback on how we can improve the set up of those templates.

I'd appreciate it so much if we can hear your insights!

Here are the steps for anyone interested:
1. Go to?and click the top right orange button
2. Sign up for a free trial account
3. Create a new session, pick a Liberating Structure template
4. Doing so will populate the structure using different "Toasty activities" - this is the interactions list that you can use to engage the audience during the live session
5. If you can, use another computer (or open another tab) to join as a participant and test run it
6. By now you should have tons of feedback! I'd love to hear them.

Thanks a lot,
Kevon



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Re: Vision: Make running Liberating Structures online easy - feedback wanted #liberatingstructures #technology

 

@Teletha
- About a summary: yes, I think that's really useful too, not only you can add quick engagement, but you can also use the inputs afterward. Right now we offer an analytics page, click "View Details" on the session and go to "Analytics", but it is not complete yet. Really good point!
- About manually select groups: yes, at the bottom you can find "Participants & groups" and you can create groups and assign people in.

@Nancy
That's true - you can open another Chrome tab to join yourself but that's not intuitive. Would love to gather a few people to test. Maybe UTC 1am is a good time for everyone in US/Asia/AUS?


A Video Chat Networking Game (Thursday, July 2nd)

 

Hello Fellow Facilitators on the F4C List,

The following networking experiment is open to various networks of online facilitators including NCDD, Art of Hosting, Liberating Structures, and the Open Space List.

This event will be playful, fun, and productive.? We are combining Zoom with a 2-dimensional video game that?uses?in-browser?video.? (screenshot attached)

Round 2 takes place this Thursday, July 2nd at 11am Eastern / 8am Pacific?/ 3pm UTC / 5pm CEST.? From the first round last week we learned that everyone should meet in Zoom before they dive into the game.? In this round, we have different gameboards you can jump into (an office, a park, the pub, etc).

Please?.

This is the interesting game dynamic: As with in-person networking, when you walk close to someone, you can speak to them.? In the game, when you walk up to a group of people, you all appear in the same video chat.

Lucas Cioffi
Lead Software Engineer,?
Scarsdale, NY
917-528-1831


Re: Zoom webinar troubleshooting #events #technology #facilitation

 

Alec, I would contact Zoom. I have heard of something similar, but alas, I can't recall what the solution was. If they don't answer, holler and I'll try to get an answer through the back door of a community where there is a Zoom employee present. ;-)


Re: Vision: Make running Liberating Structures online easy - feedback wanted #liberatingstructures #technology

 

Kevan, this is really interesting. But hard to practice by one's self. Anyone?want to organize a few trial runs??


Re: Vision: Make running Liberating Structures online easy - feedback wanted #liberatingstructures #technology

 

Hi Sean,
I use whatever tool works best for what I'm doing. I've used?Miro,?GDocs, GSheets, Zoom's whiteboard and others. I'll create the structure or container and fill it in, live, with the group. Then every participant can walk away with the co-created results. That is particularly important when I work with organizations who will use the results for planning and implementation.

On Mon, Jun 29, 2020 at 1:44 PM Sean Murphy <skmurphy@...> wrote:
Teletha: how are you creating a visual summary of your on-line meetings today? How are you meeting the need now?

Sean Murphy 408-252-9676

On Mon, Jun 29, 2020 at 10:39 AM Teletha McJunkin | Resolutionist <teletha@...> wrote:
Kevon,
I tried out Toasty, and really like the ability to quickly pull in the templated activities. However, it's important for me to walk away with a visual summary of what everyone says. Can it do that?

Teletha

On Mon, Jun 29, 2020 at 9:56 AM Kevon <kevon.cheung@...> wrote:
Hi Michaela,

Thanks for sharing with me!?Currently our design is for a single session of meeting/workshop so each one holds up to 25 pax, we haven't gotten to design around larger sessions and letting people hop around yet. Some people do run a few sessions at the same time, though def agree it is not as good of an experience.

This is the type of feedback I'd love to hear - def keen to explore whether Toasty is useful in larger settings too. Are you thinking about Open Space?


Thanks,
Kevon


Re: Vision: Make running Liberating Structures online easy - feedback wanted #liberatingstructures #technology

 

Teletha: how are you creating a visual summary of your on-line meetings today? How are you meeting the need now?

Sean Murphy 408-252-9676


On Mon, Jun 29, 2020 at 10:39 AM Teletha McJunkin | Resolutionist <teletha@...> wrote:
Kevon,
I tried out Toasty, and really like the ability to quickly pull in the templated activities. However, it's important for me to walk away with a visual summary of what everyone says. Can it do that?

Teletha

On Mon, Jun 29, 2020 at 9:56 AM Kevon <kevon.cheung@...> wrote:
Hi Michaela,

Thanks for sharing with me!?Currently our design is for a single session of meeting/workshop so each one holds up to 25 pax, we haven't gotten to design around larger sessions and letting people hop around yet. Some people do run a few sessions at the same time, though def agree it is not as good of an experience.

This is the type of feedback I'd love to hear - def keen to explore whether Toasty is useful in larger settings too. Are you thinking about Open Space?


Thanks,
Kevon


Re: Vision: Make running Liberating Structures online easy - feedback wanted #liberatingstructures #technology

 

Also, is there an option to manually select groups? I don't always want to do them randomly.

On Mon, Jun 29, 2020 at 1:39 PM Teletha McJunkin | Resolutionist via <teletha=[email protected]> wrote:

Kevon,
I tried out Toasty, and really like the ability to quickly pull in the templated activities. However, it's important for me to walk away with a visual summary of what everyone says. Can it do that?

Teletha

On Mon, Jun 29, 2020 at 9:56 AM Kevon <kevon.cheung@...> wrote:
Hi Michaela,

Thanks for sharing with me!?Currently our design is for a single session of meeting/workshop so each one holds up to 25 pax, we haven't gotten to design around larger sessions and letting people hop around yet. Some people do run a few sessions at the same time, though def agree it is not as good of an experience.

This is the type of feedback I'd love to hear - def keen to explore whether Toasty is useful in larger settings too. Are you thinking about Open Space?


Thanks,
Kevon


Re: Vision: Make running Liberating Structures online easy - feedback wanted #liberatingstructures #technology

 

Kevon,
I tried out Toasty, and really like the ability to quickly pull in the templated activities. However, it's important for me to walk away with a visual summary of what everyone says. Can it do that?

Teletha

On Mon, Jun 29, 2020 at 9:56 AM Kevon <kevon.cheung@...> wrote:
Hi Michaela,

Thanks for sharing with me!?Currently our design is for a single session of meeting/workshop so each one holds up to 25 pax, we haven't gotten to design around larger sessions and letting people hop around yet. Some people do run a few sessions at the same time, though def agree it is not as good of an experience.

This is the type of feedback I'd love to hear - def keen to explore whether Toasty is useful in larger settings too. Are you thinking about Open Space?


Thanks,
Kevon


Re: Vision: Make running Liberating Structures online easy - feedback wanted #liberatingstructures #technology

 

Hi Michaela,

Thanks for sharing with me!?Currently our design is for a single session of meeting/workshop so each one holds up to 25 pax, we haven't gotten to design around larger sessions and letting people hop around yet. Some people do run a few sessions at the same time, though def agree it is not as good of an experience.

This is the type of feedback I'd love to hear - def keen to explore whether Toasty is useful in larger settings too. Are you thinking about Open Space?


Thanks,
Kevon


Re: Vision: Make running Liberating Structures online easy - feedback wanted #liberatingstructures #technology

 

Hi Kevon,

thanks for letting us know about toasty.ai.?

I had a quick look at the website and checked for the number of participants that are included in your different account tiers.
25 participants is a rather small group (at least for those of us here who work with large groups online). Is there any large group add-on that you are providing? And if yes, what are the costs for that??

Greetings,
Michaela?